Rollie Fingers is 60 on 8/25. Who is the "greatest" relief pitcher in MLB history? (Define your terms.)
Eckersley | 18 (16.98%) |
Fingers | 2 (1.89%) |
Gossage | 4 (3.77%) |
Hoffman | 0 (0.00%) |
Marshall | 3 (2.83%) |
Rivera | 69 (65.09%) |
Smith | 1 (0.94%) |
Sutter | 2 (1.89%) |
Wilhelm | 4 (3.77%) |
Other (specify) | 3 (2.83%) |
I picked Rivera. When he pitches, he gets locked in to some kind of wavelength of calm and focus. A lot of closers get very, very pumped up, chomping at the bit and screaming obscenities. I don't think I've ever seen him panic, not even when he messes up. I remember Mo giving up a homerun last season (I think it was to Eduardo Peres, of the D-Rays). He merely looked back, watched it go out and calmly said "stupido" and kind of shook his head. His real strength is his ability to get it done, year after year, in low key situations and in high pressure situations. Torre doesn't ever have to worry about him. A guy like that is a gift to a manager because he isn't a question mark.
P.S. I mentioned before how I love the A's names. Rollie Fingers is the best damn name ever. A guy with that name is either a pitcher or a jazz pianist.
Eckersley 94 89 81 78 75 417 1243 116
Gossage 99 94 77 68 68 406 840 126
Marshall 95 87 87 84 69 422 568 118
Rivera 81 80 79 76 73 389 754 197
Wilhelm 98 74 67 62 60 361 954 146
Hoffman 83 81 67 60 58 349 698 146
Fingers 77 71 69 66 58 341 749 119
Lee Smith 75 67 67 60 55 324 756 132
Sutter 80 76 74 56 49 335 533 136
Henke 63 62 61 53 53 292 535 156
Quisenberry 76 72 67 59 58 332 452 146
From age 28 to 32 Marshall pitched 111, 116 (1.78), 179 (2.66), 208 (2.42), and 109 (3.29) innings without making a single start. Then he did nothing but recuperate for the next two seasons and at age 35 and 36 pitched 99 and 143 innings with a 2.45 and 2.65 ERA respectively. Not surprisingly, that was all she wrote.
Yes, Eckersley was also a great starting pitcher. Does that count for anything in this poll? If we are only considering his career as a reliever then he is at a considerable disadvantage since he pitched only a small portion of his career as a reliever. For his career in total......he is the best of this bunch.
If we're using ERA it's Rivera and Henke.
Rich Gossage against George Brett in the 1980 ALCS and Kirk Gibson in the 1984 WS
Dennis Eckersley against Gibson in the 1988 WS and Roberto Alomar in the 1992 ALCS
Lee Smith against Steve Garvey in the 1984 NLCS
Mariano Rivera against Luis Gonzalez in the 2001 WS
Uh...
Trevor Hoffmann against Michael Young in the 2006 ASG?
Torre's strategy has often been to save Rivera during the regular season so that he could deliver the mail in the playoffs. It has worked very well.
Goose: 19 games, 2-1 with 8 saves 2.87 ERA 1.6 IP/G teams won 5 of 8 series 62.5%
Fingers: 30 games, 3-4 with 10 saves 2.35 ERA 1.9 IP/G teams won 6 of 9 seires 66.7%
Rivera: 72 games, 8-1 with 34 saves 0.81 ERA 1.55 IP/G teams won 17 of 24 series 70.8%
Eck: 27 games, 1-2 with 15 saves 2.05 ERA 1.1 IP/G teams were 5-5 in series 50.0%
Note: skipped Eck's one postseason start.
Very surprised to see Rivera has averaged, in post season, the same IP/G as Goose. Torre deserves a lot of credit for following the Cito method (ie: manage one way during the season, differently in the post-season).
Note: the only other getting a vote (to this point) was Mike Marshall (only 2 postseason series, 12 IP 0-1 1 save on just 1 run allowed, now that is bad luck).
Hoffman to date has zero votes which is understandable when your name comes after Eckersley and before Rivera. But for the sake of honourable mention, he's been lights out for an extremely long time and isn't really showing much hope of him slowing down. He's done a phenomenal job and yet you don't hear of him nearly as much as you should.
I still voted Rivera, but Hoffman is extremely underrated and definitely deserves some mention.