I get Walter Johnson and the 1938 AL All-Star team. You are betting your LIFE on the 1987 AL All-Stars and what historical Blue Jay pitcher? And why?
| Chris Carpenter |  1 (0.64%) |
| John Cerutti | 2 (1.28%) |
| Jim Clancy | 1 (0.64%) |
| Roger Clemens | 67 (42.95%) |
| Juan Guzman | 8 (5.13%) |
| Roy Halladay | 42 (26.92%) |
| Pat Hentgen | 2 (1.28%) |
| Jimmy Key | 6 (3.85%) |
| Dave Stieb | 23 (14.74%) |
| David Wells | 4 (2.56%) |
156 votes | 21 featured comments
Stupid me. I missed Clemens on the list.
I know it is one game, and Clemens has pitched relatively poorly in post-season play. But, he's probably the best pitcher ever. Perhaps not the most admirable person, but a great, great pitcher.
I know it is one game, and Clemens has pitched relatively poorly in post-season play. But, he's probably the best pitcher ever. Perhaps not the most admirable person, but a great, great pitcher.
The best righthanded pitcher in history. Better than Walter? Yeah.
I figured the vote would be split among Clemens, Stieb and Doc, and so far it has been. But I voted for Guzman; for a short time, about a year and a half, he was the best pitcher I've ever seen, apologies to Ron Guidry and Doc Gooden.
Clemens during his time in Toronto was the best he could possibly be, two triple crowns. Stieb had the worst luck of any pitcher it seemed so I'd rather not count on him. Halladay is tempting, but I want to see a bit more from him before I'd trust my life to him.
Roger Clemens is just about the last person I'd ever trust my life to, no matter how great a pitcher he is. I went with Halladay but wonder where is the Jack Morris option?
Doc is just a flat-out GAMER. I have a feeling that if he ever pitches in the playoffs, he's going to be one heck of a big game pitcher.
Plus, he can go 9, 10, even 11 EVERY TIME. He's as throwback as a pitcher can get in this day and age. He's the guy I want out there with the ball in his hands.
Plus, he can go 9, 10, even 11 EVERY TIME. He's as throwback as a pitcher can get in this day and age. He's the guy I want out there with the ball in his hands.
I voted for Sir David, on the grounds that I would never entrust my life to a mercenary like Clemens.
In retrospect, that was a mistake. For all intents and purposes, I did place my life in his hands once, and it didn't work out so well. Thanks a million, Jim Sundberg!
Maybe I should just register a vote for Diamond Jim Clancy, just to be a contrarian. He kind of looked like a police officer; how you could not trust a police officer when your life is on the line?
In retrospect, that was a mistake. For all intents and purposes, I did place my life in his hands once, and it didn't work out so well. Thanks a million, Jim Sundberg!
Maybe I should just register a vote for Diamond Jim Clancy, just to be a contrarian. He kind of looked like a police officer; how you could not trust a police officer when your life is on the line?
I voted for Clemens but had David Cone been there I would have thought hard about voting for him. Not only was he very good but he could hit too.
Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player who ever lived it. Unless it was Bobby Orr. Or Gordie Howe. Look, it was definnitely one of those three guys, OK? I'm not sure which...
But if my LIFE was on the line, and I needed my team to score during the next shift... well, there is no player I would rather have on my team than Maurice Richard. It's a no-brainer, actually.
Roger Clemens might be the greatest pitcher of all time - he's certainly part of the argument, along with Walter and Lefty. But he's been a little... unpredictable in big games. Sometimes he's brilliant, sometimes he tweaks a hammy, sometimes he gets ejected, sometimes he gets his brains beat in. Scares the hell out of ya...
By the way, if it's an LCS Game, I would definitely want Dave Stewart! :-)
Man, I hate to force hockey talk here, but you could easily make an argument that Mario Lemieux is better than all 3 of those guys, and he's at the very least in the conversation.
Anyways, I have to choose Roger, because it's my freakin life and he's the best pitcher on the list, period. I think if it came down to it and such an insane and ridiculous situation ever did occur, you'd pretty much have to choose the Rocket.
Anyways, I have to choose Roger, because it's my freakin life and he's the best pitcher on the list, period. I think if it came down to it and such an insane and ridiculous situation ever did occur, you'd pretty much have to choose the Rocket.
Some of you guys who are knocking Rodger for his lack of big game pitching may want to remember that he is pitching for your life, not his. As such, he may not see it as a particularly "Big Game".
If I picked Roger and he lost it, I have comfort in knowing that I picked the best pitcher possible. No regrets.
However, if I picked someone else (not to knock Roy, we really haven't ever seen him in a huge game, and we haven't seen him enough period)...yea, so If I picked someone else and they lost, I would regret not picking the best pitcher, who we all know is Roger Clemens.*
I guess that I value dying without regret more than taking a chance on an unknown. Yea...
*I mean the best overall pitcher, not just in big games.
However, if I picked someone else (not to knock Roy, we really haven't ever seen him in a huge game, and we haven't seen him enough period)...yea, so If I picked someone else and they lost, I would regret not picking the best pitcher, who we all know is Roger Clemens.*
I guess that I value dying without regret more than taking a chance on an unknown. Yea...
*I mean the best overall pitcher, not just in big games.
I understand Jim Clancy not getting any votes, though I thought his 93-84 mark from 1982-88 might draw out a Clancyman or two, but NO votes for Pat Hentgen?
Okay, I get it, I really do -- you pretty much have to go with Clemens, Halladay or Stieb (in that order, apparently) to have a good chance at a win, but Hentgen has been pretty solidly admired in Box circles, and he WAS the first pitcher for a Canadian-based team to win an MLB CYA, one year ahead of Pedro with the Expos and just before Rocketman revived in TO.
And not a single vote?
Okay, I get it, I really do -- you pretty much have to go with Clemens, Halladay or Stieb (in that order, apparently) to have a good chance at a win, but Hentgen has been pretty solidly admired in Box circles, and he WAS the first pitcher for a Canadian-based team to win an MLB CYA, one year ahead of Pedro with the Expos and just before Rocketman revived in TO.
And not a single vote?
I understand Jim Clancy not getting any votes, though I thought his 93-84 mark from 1982-88 might draw out a Clancyman or two
As I explained above, Diamond Jim would have gotten my vote, if I'd thought things through a little bit before casting my vote for Stieb.
Hentgen has been pretty solidly admired in Box circles
Not only that, he's one of just two Blue Jays starters to win a World Series game (Jimmy Key being the other.)
I'm not surprised about Hentgen's lack of support. If it'd been a 5-3-1 thing, I suspect Hentgen would get points, but to me, he's similar to Stieb and Halladay, but not as good as either.
Key or Guzman, for instance, probably weren't as good as Stieb, but were different enough that I could see making an argument to take either. I just can't, though, see taking Hentgen over Stieb or Halladay.
Then again, if *two* people could actually pick Drew Henson as the best baseball/football player...
Key or Guzman, for instance, probably weren't as good as Stieb, but were different enough that I could see making an argument to take either. I just can't, though, see taking Hentgen over Stieb or Halladay.
Then again, if *two* people could actually pick Drew Henson as the best baseball/football player...
I voted for guzman since he seemed the best of list during the playoffs (4 win and one loss)
Wouldn't it be great if the Jays could get into the playoffs with Halladay? I can't think of anyone in MLB I would rather have as a #1 starter in the postseason.
For my life, it would be Jimmy Key and his pickoff move to first, and the World Series win in Atlanta after Henke bent, but didn't break in game six.