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The Mariners come to town, on Apple TV. I forgot to cancel, so I guess I can watch.

The Mariners recent transactions got my attention. No, not that they've signed Zach Pop to a minor league deal. (Good luck with that.) But rather, one week ago they optioned RH starter Luis Castillo to Tacoma.

Yes, they did. I was shocked, surprised, and sought more information. I soon discovered that there are two RH starters from the Dominican named Luis Castillo, and the Mariners employed both of them. (This is like the Mets with their brace of Bobby Jones pitchers a couple of decades ago, except I think one of them was LH and the other wasn't.). Anyway, Luis Felipe Castillo made his debut with the Tigers a cvouple of years ago, was signed to a minor league deal by Seattle in January, and started a couple of games as the Mariners were looking for someone to fill in while they wait for George Kirby to make it back. Luis Miguel Castillo is the ace they prised away from Cincinnati three years ago. Except he hasn't been pitching very much like an ace since coming to the west coast. He gave the Mariners a very good season in 2023, but last year he was merely a solid, league average arm. And he's been a little below that level so far this year. The strikeouts are down, the hits and homers are up. He's been serviceable, but I think they expected a little more. Still, I'm sure he's still quite capable of firing six shutout innings with 10 Ks and it would be nice if he didn't do that tomorrow.

The Seattle approach in recent years has been to pair elite starting pitching with a more or less average offense. Interesting. I wonder if anyone else is trying that? The Mariners don't seem to be making a lot of progress - their Win totals over the last four seasons are 90, 90, 88, 85. But when you have strong starting pitching, at least you're always going to be competitive. Even with L.M. Castillo being rather ordinary a year ago, no AL team surrendered fewer opposition runs than the Mariners. They haven't been quite as sharp so far this season, but that's mostly because the Kirby replacements (L.F. Castillo and Emerson Hancock) haven't been good enough. The return of Kirby, which should happen within the next couple of weeks, should solve that problem. Logan Gilbert, Bryce Miller, Bryan Woo are young and talented - and if L.M. Castillo and George Kirby turn out to be your fourth and fifth starters, you're probably in pretty good shape.

While the Seattle offense has improved somewhat,  it really isn't all that much better than it was a year ago. They've gone from slightly below average to slightly above average. Their best hitter so far has been utility guy Dylan Moore. Julio Rodriguez hasn't yet turned into the superstar everyone expected him to be - his best season is still his rookie year back in 2022 - and he also seems to lose a little bit more power every year, which is not the way it's supposed to work.

Hang on - the development of young players doesn't happen in a neat, straight, linear fashion? Who knew?

Incidentally, Rodriguez and LF Randy Arozarena have played every inning so far this season. Victor Robles was doing the same thing in RF until he hurt his shoulder making a spectacular, game-saving diving catch against the Giants. Alas, it only saved the game for a minute, as the very next Giants batter came up with the game-winning hit, but Robles will still miss most of the next three months and is lucky he doesn't need surgery. The lesson, kids, never to be forgotten - There's Another Game Tomorrow.

There will be some old acquaintances coming to town. Does anyone have fond memories of Trent Thornton. Yeah, that's what I thought. But Rowdy Tellez has been taking a pretty regular turn at first base, and we may need to say hello while we can as he'll be bringing a .111/.154/.222 line to town. He's got a chance to be the next Daniel Vogelbach at this rate.

And then there's Cal Raleigh, who turns out to be another one of those guys who specializes in hitting Blue Jays. You know, like Ryan Mountcastle used to be (and possibly still is.)  Raleigh has hit .277/.324/.706 in his 18 career games against Toronto, which isn't all that impressive except for the Slugging. But bear in mind - this guy is a lousy hitter. His career numbers are .218/.297/.450, and Raleigh's also homered 9 times in those 18 games against the Jays. The only team he's hit more HRs against is Oakland, who a) stink, b) he's played against in 47 games. But it's April, and weird things are afoot. Raleigh so far in 2025 has hit more homers than Aaron Judge and Shohei Ohtani.. He's hit more homers than everyone in the world except... Tyler Soderstrom?

Oh, I have lived long enough to enter a world where nothing makes sense.

I shall entertain myself then, and the fact that tonight's starting pitcher is named "Woo" delights me. I know I want to have fun with this. Just haven't figured out how. Perhaps that's wrong of me, but people have been mis-spelling and mis-pronouncing my name all my life. I nurse these grudges, I plot my revenge, I strike back when I can, in my way... Bryan Woo? Collateral damage.

Matchups!

Fri 18 Apr - Woo (2-0, 2.84) vs Francis (1-2, 3.71)
Sat 19 Apr - Castillo (1-2, 4.22) vs Berrios (1-1, 5.16)
Sun 20 Apr - Gilbert (1-1, 2.38) vs Lucas (2-1, 4.70)


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greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 01:18 PM EDT (#459032) #
A bit off-topic but O’s SP Rodriguez is having an MRI on his shoulder after he experienced some soreness following a bullpen session. Baltimore’s rotation has been hit hard by injuries this year. I think the Blue Jays might be the better overall team at the moment.

As for the M’s, yeah, I mentioned those exact stats of Raleigh’s yesterday in the Atlanta thread. I’m curious to see how he does against Francis, who has been very good as a SP but has a tendency to give up home runs.
92-93 - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 03:03 PM EDT (#459035) #
If only the Jays had a couple more “lousy” hitters like Raleigh. I’d love to hear your adjective for Giménez.
Magpie - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 03:31 PM EDT (#459036) #
OK, "lousy" is probably an adjective too far!
Glevin - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 03:58 PM EDT (#459037) #
Not sure why Roden is still hitting 9th. I mean Barger is up from the minors and is hitting 6th.
Marc Hulet - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 04:13 PM EDT (#459038) #
They need Gimenez out of the 4th spot already. Similar to my thoughts at the start of the year, he should be no higher than 7th. Having him 9th makes a lot of sense so that when he does get on base, he can use his speed to get into scoring position for Bo and Vladdy while also potentially opening up some holes with the hit-and-run.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 04:22 PM EDT (#459039) #
Schneider said Scherzer had another cortisone shot in his thumb. They’re trying to pinpoint with cortisone the precise spot that is still causing him issues. The hope is that he’ll then be able to resume pitching.
uglyone - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 04:28 PM EDT (#459040) #
no rush to push roden up the lineup for me tbh. let him get nice and comfy first.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 04:53 PM EDT (#459041) #
The status quo is working fairly well for the Blue Jays. I agree with UO about Roden. Maybe move him up later in the season if he’s performing at a high level. The lineup is not ideal but it can get the job done, especially once Varsho returns and if Wagner can make some adjustments at the plate.

I’m sure the front office (like other front offices) will be hunting for a big bat at the trade deadline.
Kelekin - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 05:12 PM EDT (#459043) #
The Orioles are currently in position to waste generational offense development with their pitching. Who do they think they are, an old school Jays team?

Anyway, three weeks in, let's check in on how some former Jays are faring:

Justin Turner (CHC): -0.2 bWAR, .444 OPS
Isiah Kiner-Falefa (PIT): 0.2 bWAR, .651 OPS
Danny Jansen (TBR): 0.2 bWAR, .493 OPS. Good defense and a bit better after an abysmal start.
Cavan Biggio (KCR): -0.1 bWAR, .530 OPS
Brian Serven (DET AAA): Was injured, now at AAA
Yusei Kikuchi (LAA): 4.13 ERA, 4.58 FIP in 4 starts, 24 IP 10 BB 22 K
Genesis Cabrera (NYM AAA): 9.00 ERA in 5 IP
Trevor Richards (CHC AAA): 9.64 ERA in 4.2 IP
Nate Pearson (CHC): 10.38 ERA, 7.61 FIP in 8.2 IP (7 BB to 5 K!)
Ryan Yarbrough (NYY): 5.91 ERA, 5.62 FIP in 10.2 IP
Tim Mayza (PIT): 3.52 ERA, 3.65 FIP in 7.2 IP
Jordan Romano (PHI): 9.00 ERA, 5.00 FIP in 7 IP
Brandon Eisert (CHW): 5.87 ERA, 3.65 FIP in 7.2 IP (14.1 K/9)

Not missing much in the early going. Mayza is looking better, Eisert has settled in quite nicely in recent games with the White Sox. Romano has also settled in after some shaky early starts (maybe getting the rust off).
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 05:21 PM EDT (#459045) #
I know the dominant narrative over the last year or more has been that the Blue Jays front office isn’t all that good. But could it be that they’re improving (albeit with a helping hand from a spendy owner)?
Nigel - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 06:24 PM EDT (#459047) #
Almost every GM in every pro sport looks a lot better with a crapload more money to spend:)
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 06:39 PM EDT (#459048) #
It’s true, this off-season big dollars allowed the front office to add Yimi, Hoffman, Gimenez, Sandlin, Scherzer, Straw, and some IFA pool money, while giving up Horwitz and that’s it. It also allowed them to extend Vladdy with a monster contract. They were also able to acquire some new coaches and a new amateur scouting director, etc.

A middle-of-the-pack spending team would have had to make a very different set of moves.

Still, if the moves work out and the team makes and advances in the postseason, the front office will deserve some credit. And not all of the moves made have been spendthrift ones.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 06:42 PM EDT (#459049) #
They also added Santander, of course.
Nigel - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 07:00 PM EDT (#459050) #
I didn’t say that critically and Shapiro deserves credit for playing a role in convincing Rogers to spend more money (how much? Who knows). But nothing (and nothing even comes close to it) in baseball more highly correlates to winning than payroll.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 07:42 PM EDT (#459052) #
Good start for the offence against a tough pitcher, but still unable to get that big extra-base hit with multiple runners on.
Glevin - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:16 PM EDT (#459053) #
Barger with 3 OF assists already. Crazy.
Eephus - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:17 PM EDT (#459054) #
Racking up the Baserunner Kills!
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:17 PM EDT (#459055) #
Barger is having a great game defensively so far. He’s gunned down two runners (Raleigh and Tellez) and was a factor in Arozarena getting cut down on the basepaths as well.
Nigel - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:18 PM EDT (#459056) #
There are very very few times when I compare a RF’s arm to Barfield but that was one hell of a throw by Barger to get Tellez.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:22 PM EDT (#459057) #
Francis has given up some hard-hit balls plus a walk and a hit batter. But his defense has really helped bail him out. Some of the hard-hit balls have been hit right at fielders as well.
Nigel - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:31 PM EDT (#459058) #
Gimenez as the cleanup hitter has to change. It was funny to start the season but the joke’s gone stale. As Marc says, he’s probably best suited to hitting 9th where his excellent base running could be useful. I don’t think the current arrangement is doing him any favours.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:36 PM EDT (#459060) #
Barger has had some good swings at the plate tonight. A deep flyout and some loud foul balls. He just hasn’t been able to fully connect on a Woo pitch. It would be great if he put it all together and had a breakout season.
Magpie - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:39 PM EDT (#459061) #
Gimenez as the cleanup hitter has to change.

I see the logic in having him bat in front of Kirk, but Kirk isn't hitting fifth anymore.

Somehow, I don't expect it to change until the team loses a few in a row, and it's because they're not scoring enough runs.
Nigel - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 08:49 PM EDT (#459064) #
I think that’s right and there are few good obvious lineup options. Roden leading off and Bo hitting cleanup makes some sense but may ruffle too many feathers. Gimenez may be the worst hitting regular though so getting him fewer rather than more should be the goal.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:00 PM EDT (#459065) #
Very iffy performance by Fluharty, showing poor control and falling behind the M’s batters, but he luckily retired two of the three hitters he faced. And Seattle burned a few bench players trying to counter him, so that’s a positive.
John Northey - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:32 PM EDT (#459066) #
And the Jays win again. 1/2 a game behind the Yankees pending the end of that game (Yanks up 1-0 in the 9th).
Glevin - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:32 PM EDT (#459067) #
Another good win. This team is just finding a way to win most nights and it's pretty damn fun to watch.
John Northey - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:35 PM EDT (#459068) #
Gotta love Francis - 4 starts, 3.13 ERA this year after a killer finish to 2024. 23 IP 16 H 5 HR (ouch) 8 BB 20 SO. Outside of the HR he is doing extremely well. Can't ask for more from the #4 starter.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:38 PM EDT (#459069) #
You can see his confidence on the mound. He’s figured out who he is as a pitcher. He has a plan, he has a consistent approach, and his repertoire is working for him.
John Northey - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:41 PM EDT (#459070) #
Francis makes me think of a RH Jimmy Key in some respects - knows how to pitch, not flashy just does the job. The near no-no's is very Stieb though. Luckily he has none of Stieb's personality issues (staring down his own fielders, complaining about the pen, umpires, whatever).
John Northey - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:45 PM EDT (#459071) #
Dang, fun to see Barger's 3 assists from RF. Wonder if that is the team record. I suspect Barfield had to have done that at some point (he had 20+ assists a year it seemed despite everyone knowing not to run on him).
scottt - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:52 PM EDT (#459072) #
Gimenez is cold right now, but shouldn't really be hitting clean up. Except he still leads the team in homeruns. And following Santander with a left bat makes a ton of sense. Maybe Varsho will be the next clean up hitter.
uglyone - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 09:57 PM EDT (#459073) #
I truly believe ownership stepping up this offseason in a real way has filtered straight down to the team on the field. This is just a better brand of baseball than we've played in long while.
Magpie - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:03 PM EDT (#459074) #
Wonder if that is the team record. I suspect Barfield had to have done that at some point

I don't know if it's the record, but Barfield never did it. He had two BaseRunner Kills in a game six times (five times as a Jay, once as a Yankee.)
Magpie - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:06 PM EDT (#459075) #
I think it's also possible that Giménez moving out of the four spot will coincide with Springer moving back to the top of the order.
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:08 PM EDT (#459078) #
Per Keegan:

“Barger’s three outfield assists make him the first to pull off the hat trick since Mark Canha on July 23, 2023, and the first Blue Jays player to do so in nearly 46 years, stretching all the way back to Rick Bosetti on May 28, 1979.”
greenfrog - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:13 PM EDT (#459079) #
I like the team, but they need another big bat in the middle of the order, as many of us intuited late in the off-season. Third base seems the most logical spot for an upgrade if an elite player becomes available.
Magpie - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:18 PM EDT (#459080) #
ESPN's game story includes the tidbit that Barger's throw to third to get Tellez was clocked at 98.8, which beats anything thrown by tonight's pitchers. Not bad!
uglyone - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:29 PM EDT (#459081) #
Of course upgrades anywhere are good but i'm not convinced there's any specific urgent need for another big bat at the moment. The team has been average offensively even with the big guns not really firing yet and the majority of guys hitting under projections still.
John Northey - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#459082) #
Thanks for checking that Magpie. Guess it shouldn't be a surprise as most runners are smart enough to learn not to run on a guy after 2. George Bell had 2 on Sept 29th (LF), on July 9th '85 (LF), and August 23 '81 (RF). Lloyd Moseby 7-13-83 in CF. Shawn Green 7-21-96 in RF, 8-11-97 in RF. Raul Mondesi 5-24-01 in RF. Devon White 7-10-93 in CF. Jose Bautista did it 6-1-12 (RF), 7-8-15 (RF) & 9-22-15 (RF), 4-3-17 (RF). Joe Carter never did 2 in a game from the OF, same for Kevin Pillar, Vernon Wells, Alex Rios, & George Springer. Those were the guys who came to mind first for me to check.

After all that checking I find MLB was wondering the same thing. They found the last Jay to do 3 in a game was Rick Bosetti May 28th 1979. Just 12 MLB players have had 4 in a game, last in 1931 (Wally Berger for the Boston Braves which has changed cities twice since then to really emphasize how long it has been). His 3rd throw was 98.8 MPH to get Tellez at 3B. The first was the slowest at 93.6. Wow. Barger could easily be a pitcher if he wanted to be I suspect.
uglyone - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#459083) #
One thing that we still might underrate last year was the entire back end of the bullpen completely imploding right from the start of the year. It was a killer blow that was kinda impossible to recover from.

I don't know how good our pen actually is this year but just the fact they haven't completely imploded like they had already at this point last year has made a huge difference so far.
SK in NJ - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:34 PM EDT (#459084) #
There is a different feel to this team. The offense hasn't clicked yet, but I don't get the sense that the hitters are going against their strengths. Hopefully it leads to more power as the season progresses.
99BlueJaysWay - Friday, April 18 2025 @ 10:44 PM EDT (#459085) #
For the first time in a long time, the team has swagger. You love to see it.
uglyone - Saturday, April 19 2025 @ 12:06 AM EDT (#459087) #

Asked about the 12-8 Blue Jays, Bowden Francis said this group feels connected & energized early in 2025. "The boys are juiced," he said.

— Ben Nicholson-Smith (@bnicholsonsmith) April 19, 2025
uglyone - Saturday, April 19 2025 @ 12:09 AM EDT (#459088) #

Bowden Francis:

“The boys are juiced. We’re super connected. From the coaching staff and everyone down, it’s a different feel.” #BlueJays

— Keegan Matheson (@KeeganMatheson) April 19, 2025
92-93 - Saturday, April 19 2025 @ 12:13 AM EDT (#459089) #
Juiced is fine, just don’t get caught!

Eugenio Suarez on Arizona is a 3B with power to watch. If the DBacks fall out of the playoff race, they may want to give top prospect Jordan Lawler a look at the hot corner.

It will probably be easier for the Jays to find a LF/DH, though.
greenfrog - Saturday, April 19 2025 @ 01:23 AM EDT (#459090) #
I was kind of thinking that if the Blue Jays make the postseason, they might want to go with a strong defensive OF (maybe Roden / Varsho / Springer) with Santander at DH. Adding another LF/DH bat could lead to a defensive downgrade for the team. Anyway, the picture will become clearer in a few months. I always find it interesting to think about possible trade targets. Suarez is an interesting name although his bat is non-elite (in my opinion) and he’s getting older and strikes out a lot.

Maybe Wagner will heat up, making Wagner/Clement a decent third base combo in the end.
scottt - Saturday, April 19 2025 @ 02:57 AM EDT (#459091) #
Barger has talked about pitching if hitting doesn't pan out.
scottt - Saturday, April 19 2025 @ 07:37 AM EDT (#459092) #
Right now, the Blue Jays bWAR leader is Straw with 0.9. Springer has 0.8, Gimenez 0.7 and Bichette 0.6.
Gimenez and Kirk are close in OPS--I pointed that out before, they have very similar numbers over the years--but Kirk is at -0.3 WAR.Heineman is at 0.6 WAR.
Santander is at -0.1 with an 89 OPS+. It's still very early.
Guerrero is at 0.3, same as Roden.
Clement is at 0.2 and Wagner at 0.0.

Bichette leads with 93 PA. Vlad and Santander both have 87. Gimenez has 84. Then it's a sharp drop to Kirk, Roden, Springer at 60, since none of these guys have played the full 20 games.

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