Mike Wilner keeps ranting about Atkins saying making contact is
more important in the playoffs than home run power. Is that the case?
Lets take a look.
I get this from listening to Wilner's Podcast (via the Star) - entertaining to listen to, but geez has he got a hate on for Atkins and Shapiro lately. He doesn't have that for Schneider, and tends to be a players broadcaster (ie: few players in his doghouse unless they abuse women, then they are total scum which I agree with 100%). When Atkins said that it was proven high contact in the playoffs is more important than hitting home runs that set him off on a multi-episode rant. So I figured lets dig in a bit. Using K's as a substitute for contact (seems logical enough) and home runs to show raw power. Yeah, K% would've been more accurate but for this exercise I figured simple was best - not like we have enough data to get more than broad strokes anyways unless I dug into all of baseball history (sorry, I do have a life).
Bold = best of the playoff teams at it (for hitters most HR, fewest K's, for pitchers the opposite obviously). Italics indicates worst. I put the teams in order of winning percentage in the regular season to help a bit in seeing what matters most of batter or pitcher HR or SO. ** = still playing in 2024, *champs* indicates won the World Series that year.
Hitter | Pitcher | Playoffs | Series | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Year | Team | HR | SO | HR | SO | W | L | W | L |
2024 | Los Angeles Dodgers ** |
233 | 1336 | 198 | 1390 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
2024 | Philadelphia Phillies | 198 | 1370 | 181 | 1433 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 1 |
2024 | New York Yankees ** |
237 | 1326 | 181 | 1457 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
2024 | Milwaukee Brewers | 177 | 1459 | 196 | 1373 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2024 | San Diego Padres | 190 | 1077 | 169 | 1453 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
2024 | Cleveland Guardians ** |
185 | 1196 | 179 | 1410 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
2024 | Baltimore Orioles | 235 | 1359 | 175 | 1380 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2024 | Atlanta Braves | 213 | 1461 | 150 | 1553 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2024 | New York Mets ** |
207 | 1382 | 165 | 1455 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 0 |
2024 | Houston Astros | 190 | 1176 | 183 | 1479 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2024 | Detroit Tigers | 162 | 1461 | 159 | 1354 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
2024 | Kansas City Royals | 170 | 1161 | 146 | 1339 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
2023 | Atlanta Braves | 307 | 1289 | 187 | 1516 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 1 |
2023 | Baltimore Orioles | 183 | 1370 | 177 | 1431 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 1 |
2023 | Los Angeles Dodgers | 249 | 1359 | 200 | 1388 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 1 |
2023 | Tampa Bay Rays | 230 | 1420 | 177 | 1507 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2023 | Milwaukee Brewers | 165 | 1412 | 198 | 1425 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2023 | Houston Astros | 222 | 1241 | 201 | 1460 | 6 | 5 | 1 | 1 |
2023 | Philadelphia Phillies | 220 | 1481 | 185 | 1454 | 6 | 5 | 1 | 1 |
2023 | Texas Rangers *champs* | 233 | 1416 | 198 | 1351 | 13 | 4 | 4 | 0 |
2023 | Toronto Blue Jays | 188 | 1303 | 198 | 1528 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2023 | Minnesota Twins | 233 | 1654 | 194 | 1560 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
2023 | Arizona Diamondbacks | 166 | 1247 | 197 | 1351 | 10 | 7 | 3 | 1 |
2023 | Miami Marlins | 166 | 1287 | 191 | 1490 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2022 | Los Angeles Dodgers | 212 | 1374 | 152 | 1465 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 1 |
2022 | Houston Astros *champs* |
214 | 1179 | 134 | 1524 | 11 | 2 | 3 | 0 |
2022 | Atlanta Braves | 243 | 1498 | 148 | 1554 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 1 |
2022 | New York Mets | 171 | 1217 | 169 | 1565 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2022 | New York Yankees | 254 | 1391 | 157 | 1459 | 3 | 6 | 1 | 1 |
2022 | St. Louis Cardinals | 197 | 1226 | 146 | 1177 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2022 | Cleveland Guardians | 127 | 1122 | 172 | 1390 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
2022 | Toronto Blue Jays | 200 | 1242 | 180 | 1390 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
2022 | Seattle Mariners | 197 | 1397 | 186 | 1391 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
2022 | San Diego Padres | 153 | 1327 | 173 | 1451 | 6 | 6 | 2 | 1 |
2022 | Philadelphia Phillies | 205 | 1363 | 150 | 1423 | 11 | 6 | 3 | 1 |
2022 | Tampa Bay Rays | 139 | 1395 | 172 | 1384 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
So what do we see? This covers the current playoff system years (2022-2024) with the exception of games yet to be played (if I knew those results I'd be a very wealthy person).
- 2022: team with the most HR hit went 3-6 winning 1 series, losing 1; team with the fewest batter K's went 4-3 winning 1 series, losing 1. Team giving up the fewest HR went 11-2 winning it all (3-0 in series); team getting the most K's went 1-2 losing their only series.
- 2023: team with the most HR hit went 1-3 losing their only series; team with the fewest batter K's went 6-5 winning 1 series, losing 1. Teams giving up the fewest HR (2 way tie) went 1-5 losing both series they played; team getting the most K's went 3-3 going 1-1 in series.
- 2024: team with the most HR hit went 3-1 winning their only series; team with the fewest batter K's went 4-3 going 1-1 in series. Team giving up the fewest HR - getting the most K's was the same team which went 0-2 losing their only series.
So the best HR hitting teams went 7-10 winning 2 series, losing 2 while still being out there in 2024. Fewest K's went 14-11 going 3-3 in series. Giving up fewest HR went 12-9 going 3-4 in series with 1 title. Most K's went 4-7 going 1-3 in series.
Hardly enough to say 'yes this works' or 'no that doesn't' when it comes to K's or HR by hitters or given up by pitchers. Slight edge to keeping K's down vs HR's hit, but that could change in the ALCS and WS potentially. Giving up HR or getting K's didn't seem to do much (yeah, 1 title but otherwise flops).
So what did the WS winners do?
- 2022: Houston - #3 in HR hit, #2 in fewest K's; #1 in fewest HR given up, #3 in most K's - basically they were damn good at everything.
- 2023: Texas - tied for #3 in HR hit, 9th in fewest K's (or 4th worst); tied for 8th fewest HR given up (or tied for 3rd most), fewest K's by pitchers - how the heck did they win?
- 2024: one of NYY, NYM, LAD, or Guardians (still getting used to that). Yanks #1 in HR hit, LAD #3, Mets #5, Guards #9 (ouch); fewest K's: Guards #4, Yanks #5, LAD #6, Mets #9; Fewest HR given up: Mets #4, Guards #7, NYY #8, LAD #12; Most K's: NYY #3, Mets #4, Guards #7, LAD #8
So based on what Atkins says at this point the Guardians should be winning on offense, as should the Dodgers. But pitching-wise those 2 might be in trouble as they don't K people (relative to the group). For Wilner it is NYY/LAD for hitting, Mets/Guards for pitching. Dang, split decision across the board - if they hit HR they also give them up, if they K hitters, they also K themselves. Weird how that worked out. If anyone can see what either of those 2 claim is critical in the playoffs let me know below as I can't see a solid pattern for high HR or low K batting being 'the key', or the reverse in pitching being key. Hard to say what the playoff from here on out really say in regards to the two theories unless you feel it only applies to offense and not pitching (which IMO is weird - either it applies to both or neither). IMO what matters most is being a good team and getting lucky/hot in the playoffs - how you are good is secondary to just being good.
Now, one could argue both mean during the playoffs but that is hardly something one can predict ahead of time now is it? Suppose your team faces a Nolan Ryan or Randy Johnson in the playoffs then your K's go through the roof. Nah, regular season is the best measure of how a team was designed and that is what matters here.
FYI: Soto, the super-free agent this winter, is a high HR, low K guy - 17.0% K% lifetime, 112 K's per 150 G (low for a slugger). 41 HR this year, 32 per 150 G lifetime. For comparison Vlad is at 15.6% K%, 101 K/150 G, 29 HR/150 G lifetime. Those 2 are a LOT closer in those figures than I expected to be honest.