Over the years the Jays have had a few GM's and each did drafts and signed undrafted free agents. So how did each do?
An oddity I hadn't noticed before. 3 of the 5 GM's we've had (I don't count Bavasti for 1977 as I suspect Gillick was 100% in control of the draft and most of the rest) had last names starting with the letter A - did the Jays just start looking by alphabetical order and said 'screw it lets just take the first guy' (yes, that is a joke)?
Undrafted Free Agents (UFA)...
Note: this includes undrafted free agents in the USA/Canada/PR. So guys like Casey Lawrence & Chris Rowley are included.
So how about the draft? Same measurements plus WAR/draft
10+ WAR guys... (included the 2 9.9 guys)
So what does this mean going forward? Hard to say, but it seems Atkins is on the right trend - signing more than any GM outisde of AA as AFA's (amateur free agents) to compensate for the reduced draft he has had to deal with. Hopefully it works well.
As a final data point - how did Cleveland do with Mark Shapiro running things? (he did train Atkins and is the president right now) GM 2002-2010, President 2011-2015, Atkins Farm Director 2009-2014
An oddity I hadn't noticed before. 3 of the 5 GM's we've had (I don't count Bavasti for 1977 as I suspect Gillick was 100% in control of the draft and most of the rest) had last names starting with the letter A - did the Jays just start looking by alphabetical order and said 'screw it lets just take the first guy' (yes, that is a joke)?
Undrafted Free Agents (UFA)...
- Gillick: 1977-1994: 1004 signed, 52 reached, 55.8 per year signed, 2.9 reached per year, easily the best is Tony Fernandez (45.3 WAR)
- Ash: 1995-2001: 391 signed, 11 reached, 55.9 per year signed, 1.6 per year reached, best I think is Gustavo Chacin (4.1 WAR)
- JPR: 2002-2009: 409 signed, 9 reached, 51.1 per year signed, 1.1 reached, best Henderson Alvarez (made an all-star team after leaving Toronto 8.5 WAR)
- AA: 2010-2015: 419 signed, 18 reached, 69.8 per year signed, 3.0 per year reached. Best Vlad (13.5 WAR, 2 time AS)
- Atkins: 2016-now, 407 signed, 9 reached, 58.1 signed per year, 1.3 per year reached (most still working through the system). Best Kirk (5 WAR so far)
Note: this includes undrafted free agents in the USA/Canada/PR. So guys like Casey Lawrence & Chris Rowley are included.
So how about the draft? Same measurements plus WAR/draft
- Gillick: 1977-1994: 790 drafted, 89 reached, 43.9 drafted/year, 4.9 reached/year, 34.0 WAR/Year. Best John Olerud (also 50+ WAR from Jeff Kent, Dave Stieb & David Wells)
- Gillick Other Drafts: 1977-1986 (4 drafts per year): 163 drafted, 7 reached, 5.4 drafted/draft, 0.2 reached/draft, 2.1 WAR/draft. Best Todd Stottlemyre (22.9 WAR)
- Ash: 1995-2001: 380 drafted, 31 reached, 54.3 drafted/year, 4.4 reached/year, 37.8 WAR/Year. Best Roy Halladay (HOF)
- JPR: 2002-2009: 380 drafted, 52 reached, 47.5 drafted/year, 6.5 reached/year, 17.5 WAR/Year. Best Aaron Hill (All-Star)
- AA: 2010-2015: 276 drafted, 51 reached, 46.0 drafted/year, 8.5 reached/year, 22.0 WAR/Year. Best Marcus Stroman (All-Star)
- Atkins: 2016-now, 207 drafted, 18 reached, 29.6 drafted/year, 2.6 reached/year, 3.8 WAR/Year (most still playing). Best Bo Bichette (All-Star) but Manoah not far back.
10+ WAR guys... (included the 2 9.9 guys)
- Gillick: (17 draft, 6 UFA) Jesse Barfield, Lloyd Moseby, Dave Stieb, David Wells, Jimmy Key, Pat Hentgen, Mike Timlin, Derek Bell, Woody Williams, David Weathers, John Olerud, Jeff Kent, Steve Karsay, Shawn Green, Alex Gonzalez, Shannon Stewart, Chris Carpenter; UFA: Tony Fernandez, Luis Leal, Jose Mesa, Luis Aquino, Carlos Delgado, Kelvim Escobar
- Ash: (7 draft, 0 UFA) Halladay, Vernon Wells, Alex Rios, Casey Blake, Orlando Hudson, Michael Young, Reed Johnson; UFA: none.
- JPR: (6 draft, 0 UFA) Aaron Hill, Shaun Marcum, Adam Lind, Ricky Romero, Yan Gomes, Jake Marisnick; UFA: nada.
- AA: (5+ draft, 1 UFA) Noah Syndergaard, Kevin Pillar, Joe Musgrove, Anthony DeSclafani, Marcus Stroman, more to come (Jansen, Jordan Romano, Matthew Boyd, Kendall Graveman, and Chad Green all might); UFA: Vladimir Guerrero
- Atkins: (1+ draft, 0+ UFA) Bo Bichette (many more to come I'm sure like Manoah); UFA: none yet (Lourdes Gurriel is close, Alejandro Kirk at 5)
- Gillick: 18 years (really 17, but I'm counting 1977 under him) - draft 89, other drafts 7, UFA 52 = 148 players = 8.2 per year, 23 solid guys - 1.3 per year
- Ash: 7 years - draft 31, UFA 11 = 42 players = 6.0 per year, 7 solid guys (including 1 HOF'er) - 1 per year.
- JPR: 8 years - draft 52, UFA 9 = 61 players = 7.6 per year, 6 solid guys - 0.75 per year
- AA: 6 years - draft 51, UFA 18 = 69 players = 11.5 per year (! - he clearly focused on development more than any other GM and said so day one), 6 solids (more to come) - 1.0 per year
- Atkins: 7 years - draft 18, UFA 9 = 27 players = 3.9 per year (many more coming soon hopefully) - 1 solid so far or 0.14 per year (obviously going to grow).
So what does this mean going forward? Hard to say, but it seems Atkins is on the right trend - signing more than any GM outisde of AA as AFA's (amateur free agents) to compensate for the reduced draft he has had to deal with. Hopefully it works well.
As a final data point - how did Cleveland do with Mark Shapiro running things? (he did train Atkins and is the president right now) GM 2002-2010, President 2011-2015, Atkins Farm Director 2009-2014
- Draft: 671 drafted, 75 reached, 6 with 10+ WAR, best by a mile is Francisco Lindor 36.6 bWAR (5.4 reached per year, 0.4 with 10+ WAR per year). UFA's: 838 signed, 32 reached, 1 had 10+ WAR, 59.9 signed a year, 2.3 reached, the only 10+ guy was a big one - Jose Ramirez (40.3) who they signed November 26, 2009 (thus not a big name at the time like Kirk & Moreno). So combined he had 7.4 reach per year but very, very few were star level (7 total, 8th probable in Yandy Diaz and a 9th in Gio Urshela). His 7.4 reaching per year combined is lower than Gillick, AA, even JPR (barely, 0.2 spread). But he also had a budget that was worse than Ash had I suspect so that has to be factored in.