What's no to like?
By the way, the main newspaper in Cleveland is The Plain Dealer.
No, seriously.
The pipeline to the Mets is less clear, as IIRC, JP Ricciardi hasn't been employed by the Mets since the Sandy Alderson days.
My original thought was that the Rays needed to clear some salary to take on Nelson Cruz, but Hill is only making 2.5 million.
Then I thought maybe they had to clear a roster spot, but that doesn't work either since they took Tommy Hunter back in the trade.
I suppose the immediate question there is who take's Hill's spot in the rotation. Glasnow's probably at least a month away. They just traded two of their Durham starters to get Cruz - they've generally called on Luis Patino when they needed a starter, but he is a 21 year old with 5 MLB starts and a 5.26 ERA. Chris Archer just started a rehab assignment but I doubt they're counting on him. I'd stay tuned.
Not so. His ERA is the highest since 2013 and his last 7 starts it's 5.40 with an .876 OPS. He's been showing his age and Tampa will get something back from a team that's desperate for starting pitching.
I suspect they won't want to call up Baz and it looks like McKay and Honeywell Jr. aren't healthy/stretched out.
MLB to test electronic device for catchers to give signals to pitchers
Interesting experiment to start in the minor leagues
Max Scherzer and German Marquez are ideal targets for FO
Pearson - trade him because his injuries are a concern and he hasn't developed due to lots of missed time.
Austin Martin - trade him as he is trending away from "Star top 5 draft pick"
Alejandro Kirk - trade him he is very attractive
Moreno - keep he is a stud
Orelvis Martinez - keep he is a stud
They are not rebuilding right now IMO. BUT they acquired W Adames and R Tellez recently for non essential pitching. Adames is doing great as the regular SS and Tellez is a PH at the moment. A cheap and interesting retooling/youth movement.
Yelich was bad in 2020 and bad this year. He probably does not get a big contract when he is a FA unless he rebounds.
I only consider him mildly handsome.
Pearson could be the best reliever the Jays have over the last 2 months, so instead trade him while his value is low?
Martin trended away from "Star top 1 draft pick" the day of the draft. He's only 22, can play positions of need and gets on base at a high click.
Why is Kirk more attractive to another team than to the Jays?
Scherzer can block any deal and gets to decide where he goes.
Marquez will be pricey. It would be better for the Jays to get him now than over the winter, but it works the other way for the Rockies who will have more suitors if they wait until the offseason.
Maybe Kirk and Smith are the only ones who are projecting better than what you think they are. Clearly Pearson and Martin are not quite performing as much as expected so I think trading them would be selling low unless you think they're just going to continue getting worse and this is the only value you can get from them.
Alejandro Kirk expected to be back with the big club tonight, and make the start behind the plate for LHP Steven Matz.
Waiting to hear from the Not-So-Handsome-One. Expecting something like "free at last, free at last, thank God almighty..."
You know what frightens me about Kirk and Moreno? It's not them. It's the utter inability of this franchise, over more than 40 freaking years, to produce a good major league catcher. It's positively spooky by now. And spooky is scary!
Kidding, but these MLB Trade Rumour posts are terrible.
"Pearson could be the best reliever the Jays have over the last 2 months, so instead trade him while his value is low?"
Because some team may still view him as a big time starting pitching prospect with Ace upside.
"Martin trended away from "Star top 1 draft pick" the day of the draft. He's only 22, can play positions of need and gets on base at a high click."
Their point was that he lacks a lot of power with I think only 2 home runs this year and looks more like a very strong utility player than a star or very good player like Bichette, Martinez, Groshans who all have that potential
"Why is Kirk more attractive to another team than to the Jays?"
He is just very attractive to have (as a commodity) to other teams because he is very very good and can play catcher. Most teams would not be including that type of prospect in a trade package but the Jays have Moreno who is even better.
- 1987: Greg Myers* (7.3 WAR lifetime, played regularly a lot,over 1100 games in the majors)
- 1988: Pat Borders (3.6 WAR lifeime, but a WS MVP, over 1000 games in the majors - remember older stats are very limited on defensive measures, no framing stats exist)
- 2010: J.P. Arencibia (1.9 WAR lifetime, regular for 3 years)
- 2012: Yan Gomes (yeah, given away but developed here, 16.5 WAR so far, 2.0 this year, all-star and silver slugger, over 800 games in majors)
The point is that Martin was drafted 5th overall, so somebody will offer "something" for him. Since he's a 22 year old prospect, it would be a team selling its older players at the deadline.
What team needs offense from the catching position more than the Jays and would overpay for Kirk?
A commodity is a player that can be traded. Moreno will not play in the MLB this year. He's not part of the same conversation.
The Jays have to trade none of these players. Some teams have players to sell. They'll go to the best offer.
It doesn't have to be a high offer. There are not many buyers. Most of the buyers have no money to spend.
The Jays have Hatch, Pearson, Axford and maybe Merryweather who might actually be all Toronto needs.
It's a franchise that's almost always imported their catchers from other organizations: Cerone, Ashby, Whitt, Martinez, Santiago, O'Brien, Fletcher, Zaun, Barajas, Martin. Even Ken Huckaby.
Depends if you like a poor man's version of the Dad Bod.
Kirk and Moreno were both signed by this FO. 2016. Maybe our luck has changed.
These situations always remind me of the Nicolino/Sanchez/Syndergaard predicament that the Jays had a few years ago. Do you keep one, two, or all three of your "big three" prospects? People often think, well, keep two and trade one (i.e., trade from an area of strength to bolster an area of weakness). The problem is that (despite a lot of big opinions on the subject) no one really knows which of your prospects will turn out to be successful -- and stay healthy.
Rick Cerone can't match that but Damaso Garcia and Chris Chambliss (who was instantly flipped for Bonnell and McLaughlin) wasn't bad. Too bad about the Ashby deal.
Seriously this. 'Catcher of the future' seems to be a cursed tag to put on anyone in the Jays system.
Valera off the Bereavement List, Murphy down.
It's good to have extra bats in a NL park series.
- Pitching the Jays have done reasonably well in, with a HOF'er and many All-Stars. Stieb, Key, Leal, David Wells, Stottlemyre, Cerutti, Hentgen, Carpenter,
- 1B has the motherload: McGriff, Olerud, Vlad. Plus Cecil Fielder, Lind, and Upshaw.
- 2B has been a problem at times, but Aaron Hill and Craig Biggio both looked good. Hill more so (over 20 WAR) at this point in time.
- 3B Sprague was the only one fully developed here, I don't count Vlad or Biggio as 3B. Ainge was a basketball player at 3B.
- SS Fernandez, Alex Gonzalez, Bo. Also a ML manager in Woodward
- LF Shannon Stewart, Reed Johnson, Snider, Thames, Gurriel
- CF Moseby, Wells, Pillar
- RF Barfield, Felix, Whiten, Green, Rios, Teoscar Hernandez (still can't believe he was the most used CF in 2019)
Is Aaron Hill the one and only 2B the Jays have drafted and developed to the play a season with Jays in the majors?
It's not zero but it's pretty thin there too. (Yes, I'm ignoring Yan Gomes to not have to include Michael Young and Jeff Kent as Jays products).
Upshaw was a Rule 5 guy as well. And while McGriff was in the low minors - he had just turned 19, and never played above Rookie Ball - even so, he was the point of the trade for the Dale Murray trade, and was described as such from day one. They were already talking about him the way we've talked about Vlad these last few years.
Three seasons, won a Gold Glove, went to Arizona in the Troy Glaus deal.
Glenallen Hill also played 1000 games in the majors, most of them after being traded away. But I suppose Mitch Webster shouldn't count.
Kirk sure hustles for a short and fat dude.
Also, please let me forget 2020. :)
Felix Jose?
Jayson Werth (started as a catcher) and Derek Bell both had long MLB careers in the outfield. So did Casey Blake at 3b and Luis Sojo everywhere.
Mike Sharperson should have had a better career (and a longer life) but he did make it to an All-Star game and get a World Series ring with the Dodgers. And I don't know what happened to Brent Abernathy. He went to Tampa Bay, had a good year, and they cut him loose. Did he get hurt? Could he not handle 2b?
Matz looked like he just decided to pump a fastball right down the middle for the pitcher and it didn't quite work.
The Mets broadcasters have been waxing nostalgic about the Jays World Series teams. It's nice to hear other teams' crews speak so fondly of those teams.
John, how could you forget Carlos Delgado?
And yes, Kasi, this one's on the offense.
The interesting decision is figuring out the move to make to get back into serious contention.
He breaking ball was always a question and he didn't have enough velo on his fastball to challenge hitters.
Moved to the pen he throws hard and he's found a breaking pitch that works, but he doesn't throw the change anymore since he's facing lefties most of the time. He'd be terrific if he could bring back the change against right bats. He throws harder, so he's got a bigger margin but he doesn't have the time to get a good feel in a single inning, so the control is down.
The Mets were throwing outside and the Jays were hitting long fly balls.
As for Semien, the Jays are not in a spot where outspending the market on a long term deal for a 31 year old middle infielder makes much sense. They need pitching, pitching, and then more pitching. After that they need a 3B and could benefit from adding a little more left-handedness to the lineup. If Semien is open to a reasonable 3 year extension right now that's a different story, but the Jays should not get involved in an open bidding process. Take the one year contract win, pick up a draft pick, and move on.
If you think Semien will be an over pay then what do you think it will take to land one of those two pitchers? I'd rather the resign Semien and trade prospects for elite pitching which is controllable. It seems everybody wants this but it isn't yet happening.
If you're gonna let Semien walk and you're not able to add this deadline then I would trade him. As a matter of fact, I would trade him and resign him.
To be clear, this is only if they find the prices too high for SP additions this deadline and if they fall too far back, which, about that...
He has a 850~ OPS in 20, and 950~ vs in 21 vs RHB
And he'll be looking for someone who needs a shortstop. The, uh, Yankees come to mind. I think the Twins will want to build back quickly, they've already shed Cruz's salary, Happ and Pineda are coming off the books, Simmons will be gone at the end of the year. There will be other openings around the majors. I expect he's going to get paid, and be someone else's shortstop next year.
1 - Billy Koch ('96); 2 - Vernon Wells ('97); 3 - Felipe López ('98); 4 - Ricky Romero ('05); 5 - Jeff Hoffman ('14); 6 - Austin Martin ('20);
7 - Phil Bickford was drafted 10th overall in 2013, but did not sign.
Not to corroborate the wisdom of tanking, but having the highest draft picks generally reduces an organization's margin for error. Then again, over 1200 players were drafted every year, until recently. So, the explanation is only partial.
I agree with all you have said, but Semien may not get ALL the cash he wants given the price-lowering glut of shortstops that will be on the market: Baez, Correa, Story, Seager and, less coveted, an aging Brandon Crawford and a middling Miguel Rojas.
Correa and Seager have careers littered with IL time and that will impact their desirability. A betting man might suggest that each is destined to return to their existing team anyway. A flashy Baez might seek out the bright lights of Gotham, and he'd be a switch-hitter on a very right-handed Yankee team. His fellow flashy countryman seems content in that same city.
There will surely be a home for Semien, but he won't be the only belle of the off-season ball.
It will be interesting to see what they do with Semien and Ray if they happen to fall further back in the next few days. This FO has already shown that their hands could be tied due to either ownership or optics (2017), so selling right before heading back home for the first time in two years probably isn't happening.
I retract this. Baez is a RHB. Not sure why I thought he was a switch-hitter. Just more dying brain cells, I guess.
Those would come in handy considering this year's draft class, where the 1st round pick will be delayed due to injury and the 2nd round pick was lost as compensation. Plus, it would offset the Blue Jays losing another early pick if a qualified free agent is signed this winter.
...extra picks allow for more creative allotment of pool money.
This point deserves some emphasis, too. Toronto had the 3rd smallest(?) pool in the draft this year, but maneuvered fairly well despite that.
Bud Black publicly announced Marquez won't be traded. That makes much less sense than the Ramirez situation because the Rockies look far from contention. But doing things that make sense has not been the hallmark of the Rockies. They march to the beat of their own drummer. And Dick Monfort is the drummiest owner this side of Artie Moreno.
The Jays cannot seem to beat the good teams. This is not likely their year to make the playoffs. Still a valuable year for the young position core to gaining experience.
The overall pitching has failed to show promise of improvement. Manoah has been tremendous and should gain a lot of ML experience over the rest of the year. Romano has proven that he is a V good reliever. Stripling is making a case for a decent SP. Everyone else has not improved. Kay, Hatch, Zeuch etc. Even Borucki is only ok or a bit better.
Fortunately Atkins knows how to patch up a pitching staff. By getting Walker, Ray and Stripling at last years deadline he improved our playoff chances. This year Ray, Matz and Stripling have provided great to well based on expectations. Shapiro said before the season that Stripling is the swing man. I think that means #6. Roark and Pearson were ahead of him. Atkins has added veterans Cimber & T Richards. Saucedo has been good and Mayza has been ok.
2020-250/375/432, .807, OPS+ 123, 16 2Bs, 8 HRs, 41/61 BB/K
2021-224/327/372, .699, OPS+ 92, 10 2B,1 3B,7 HR, 35/71 BB/K
2020
- 2B 281 innings - DRS +2, UZR/150 +4.6
- 3B 81 innings - DRS -2, UZR/150 -13.4
- RF 103 innings - DRS +1, UZR/150 -18.6
2021
- 2B 30 innings - DRS -1, UZR/150 -23.8
- 3B 389 innings - DRS -1, UZR/150 -11.8
- RF 117 innings - DRS +1, UZR/150 +1.1
2020 bWAR 2.0, fWAR 1.4
2021 bWAR 0.3, fWAR 0.1
In summary, the difference between Cavan Biggio as an above average regular/borderline all-star vs close to replacement level bench utility player is:
6 walks, ten strikeouts, five extra doubles, one double turned into a single, one HR becoming a triple, 3 or 4 successful SB attempts while playing out of position 2/3 of the time.
Or put another way, Biggio contributing roughly 24 less total bases (including baserunning) while playing out of position over a half season of PAs (265), essentially turns him from a 3-4 win player to a hovering close to replacement bench bat.
Baseball is fickle.
Crash Davis opined on this very thing.
Vladdy should have been #2 from the start imo. Springer leadoff was also the right choice.....hopefully his bat gets back to its usual level.
After those 2 it doesn't really matter but semien next makes sense given how well he's hit.
Kirk should be hitting at least 6th behind Semien/Bo/Teoscar tho.
I would be curious to see what Semien could fetch in a trade. He's been a top 10 performer in WAR for the past two full seasons. He's a legit difference maker. My guess is a return for him would be of greater value than a compensation pick (even with teams shying away from trading good young prospects for rentals nowadays), but impossible to determine that without knowing what is being offered. I would agree that they won't trade for rentals or trade anyone significant. If there is a trade out there for an arb eligible SP with 2+ years of control left (like Stripling last year), then I think that's the direction they go.
Of course, if it's Thursday July 29 and they are suddenly 2 games back of the 2nd WC, then we are having a different conversation. The next 5-6 days will tell a lot.
I did have it in my mind when I was making the post.
I still find it amazing that the difference statistically between elite success and total failure (at least offensively) seems to be only about 50 total bases of any type over the course of a season.
Or roughly two bases a week.
Nothing personal, but I hate this line of reasoning.
It's the ultimate example of emotional and reactionary decision-making.
If a front office has paralysis by analysis and is unable or unwilling to have already set their trade deadline strategy based on the first 93 games of data, it's a really bad idea to let the next 5-6 games tip the scales on your plan of action.
It's like the trade deadline equivalent of trading for a player or signing a free agent based on sample sizes as irrelevant as hitter vs pitcher matchups.
That said, my big bet now is to get a closer - Ian Kennedy from Texas is my bet right now. Shouldn't cost much, just a B level prospect or two, but Texas is likely to lose him for nothing this winter (no way he gets a QO) so unless there is a big market for him the Jays should get a good deal. I'd keep chasing Pittsburgh's Richard Rodriguez as Plan A though, with the Cub's Craig Kimbrel as plan B (more expensive and a team with unrealistic expectations I suspect based on what I've read) but if neither is likely to work then go to Kennedy. Or even get Kennedy if you can, but keep the door open for the others. Never can have too much pitching after all.
I do agree that results over a 5-6 game span shouldn’t matter that much, but the result of those games in regards to absolute record and games out of playoff spots do. And when four of those games are against a team you are trying to catch it really matters. So yeah in the end losing a series shouldn’t change much on evaluation of the team at the point the Jays are at a bad series pretty much knocks them out of the playoffs no matter how much potential we think they have.
So very, very different from 2015, more like 1983 when Pat Gillick did 0 trades despite a pen that makes this one look like the Henke/Ward one of 92. Thus why I expect only minor deals for relievers unless a big fish lands in Atkins's lap.
Don't think I agree there. I don't like our FO much but I respect them more than to think the next 5gms will make any difference to what they do at the deadline.
This seems more like an attempt to lower expectations tbh.
When they cut to Pillar in the dugout pic.twitter.com/9mk7H3fGuu
— Drew F (@DrewGROF) July 25, 2021
Overall division records...
AL East: +17, AL Central -14, AL West 9, NL East -16, NL Central -5, NL West +10.
Boy those bottom feeders (Arizona, Colorado) in the NL West drag it down.
SRS on BR (Measure a team vs schedule, etc.) has the Jays with a 1.0, 2nd best in AL, 4th in ML's tied with the Padres. Dodgers, Houston, SF ahead of them.
And if they're 4 games out? Different approach again?
Nice to see the bats wake up a bit.
If you ever wondered why so many managers end up as alcoholics!
You wouldn't want me in your batting order.
He's gotten sporadic usage, only 2 games with more than 2 PA's before Friday. But he had a 2 hit game with a double yesterday, tonight 3 hits including his first 2 HR's as a Brewer.
Yes, the Jays over-arching philosophy shouldn't change whether they are 2 games out or 7 games out. They should be adding in trade for more than the binary make/don't make playoffs reasons. But that would be for controllable pieces, like the Stripling trade last year. Maybe even a cheap rental.
But at 2 games out the Jays should be much more incentivised to pursue rentals that cost real prospect capital than if they are 7 games out. A Kris Bryant for example.
I am not sure where on the rebuild curve this team is right now. In 2020 when the team struggled at times Atkins said he expects the team to believe in themselves eventually. Hope, expect and know that you can will every game. This years results show that we are not yet at the know you can win every game stage. We could still be in the hope to win stage.
Appetizers: Matzo Ball Soup, Chicken Striplings, Romano Cheese Pizza
Entrées: Ground Chuck Montoyo Burgers, Pork Chops & Apple Saucedo, Peking Ducky Borucki
Beverages: Fountain Springer Water, Hyun Jin & Tonic (Club VIP)
They are in 4th place, half a game behind the Yankees. Boston and Tampa are tied at the top with Boston having a much tougher schedule than the rest of the division.
The others are fairly even.
Tampa/Boston .498
Toronto .497
NYY/Seattle .495
Has there been an update on Dickerson lately? They might need him soon if Gurriel is hurt.
If there's a team that would overpay for Semien it's the Mets across the diamond today. Or the Giants/WhiteSox. The other contenders are fairly set in the middle infield.
For 2022 we have Ryu, Manoah and Stripling. It will be hard to add Ryu/Manoah quality on multi years of control either by trade or FA. Stripling type additions should be easy, but this is just depth to avoid really bad SPs. Hoping for Pearson to join the rotation is good but it is just hope.
And it’s two MVP performances, uglyone.
I’m just thankful (in hindsight) they didn’t drop $102m on Trevor Bauer.
He pitched. He apparently didn't hit.
That presupposes that Borucki isn't going to surrender a home run to Alonso.
Personally, I would have seriously debated running Stripling out for the sixth inning, until he surrendered a baserunner. Third time through the order and all that, though.
I'm assuming tongue was at least partly in cheek, but even now is when he could have decided on the double-switch, bringing in Biggio and Barnes at the same time, reckoning that Barnes would be needed for the next inning.
I appreciate that point and I get your thinking. It's not uncommon to see NL managers do a mid-inning double-switch, for precisely those reasons (a forced pitching change and the fact that not doing the double switch might mean that the reliever in the game is burned after one batter). I don't hate the double-switch there - I think Montoyo's made much worse decisions and the end, the Jays would have always have made the double switch this inning - but your point's valid.
That said, that was the Good Dolis that can be tough to forget. He never did get to the Chatwood depths for me, because for some reason it always felt that he was closer to getting out of it.
Someone far more clever than I could work the new Red Sox centerfielder into this jocularity.
The more I see Barnes pitch, the less I like him.
Whatever that pitch is, it's not a splitter.
I've seen pitchers spike splitters, but hang them?
Breaking balls hang. Change ups are not supposed to hang.
Who misses the strike zone by a foot or two with a splitter?
He's a lot like Beasley. I liked Payamps better.
Biggio for Espinal?
There are only a couple of relief pitchers who might *really* benefit from the better defense.
Saucedo, for sure. Cimber or Richards, maybe.
Totally fine with the move.
Having Espinal bat in front of Kirk was more questionable.
Give it time and Kirk should be hitting 6th.
Now the 2021 Jays obviously have plenty of issues that are keeping them from being elite, but they can't be taken seriously as a contender until management admits that this guy is just a placeholder for a real manager. It's time to get real and move on.
Does Montoyo not know that Borucki has a 1000 OPS vs RHB since last year? lol
Montoyo is only executing what has been decided before the game.
They don't want to use all the guys that they used yesterday and there is a more important game against Boston tomorrow. Barnes was only warming up to come in if Borucki screwed up.
They do a double substitution, so Borucki can pitch more than 1 inning.
He gets a fly out, walks a lefty, give a game tying homerun to Alonso and gets Smith to ground out.
So Montoyo sends Barnes out to get a 1 single inning ending out with the bases empty instead of leaving Borucki to face 3 right bats.
Barnes walks Davis, gives a single to Villar. They pinch hit for Nido, but Barnes has to face at least another batter.
McNeil hits a doubles.
Barnes has an ERA of 6.18. Time to cut bait. Bring in Axford now.
Borucki should be kept out of high leverage for a little while.
Like I said before, if Charlie is still managing this team in 2022, I'll be very disappointed. Not surprised, but disappointed.
But I want this team to cohesively play better. I want them to get that out when they need it or get that hit when they need it or make that defensive play when they need it and since I can’t fire all the players I say replace Montoyo with someone who can better motivate/maximize this squad.
Warming him up to follow Borucki there never made any sense and that's on Montoyo.
I suppose you could argue the game was worth saving in the 5th on Saturday, but then again, I didn't agree with taking Ryu out there.
We've had so many discussions on here about the manager's role in one run losses. Look back pre deadline in July 2015 when the team was hovering around. 500. Same discussion. Why doesn't Gibby do something, dammit?
I've already said I feel like Charlie isn't the best manager for them at this point in time, but undoubtedly, the front office wants to give him a chance with a truly contender level lineup, and the Jays don't have that yet.
I'm still crossing my fingers for a Ramirez for Teoscar swap, which solves the third base problem, because Biggio is just not a third baseman.
Oakland's schedule is actually very similar to those of the ALE teams.
White Sox, Guardians, Yankees, Tigers, Royals and their division rivals, 9 against Seattle, 9 against Texas, 4 against the Angels and only 3 against Houston.
The difficult part is probably 2 short series against the Padres and 1 series against the Giants.
Truly tough? I'm not so sure.
Is Montoyo an ideal manager for a contending team? IMO, no. But is he a nightmare? Again, no. He isn't breaking pitchers arms, nor is he playing the worst options (such as Davis for example). The big headache is the pen, where our top 2 options both are out for the season and the #3 guy for closing is also on the IL. Thus at best we have our 4th best option for closing finishing games and doing well, but then our #5 and beyond guys are pitching critical innings. This is a problem. Imagine the 92 team trying to do without Henke, Ward, and Timlin (Merryweather equivalent). I somehow doubt they'd have made it to the playoffs, let along won it all.
So the question is what can the Jays do? #1 is keep improving that pen, but don't spend top 10 prospects on it. Thus rentals are the most likely target, get Thornton back to AAA, along with Barnes via getting 2 decent relievers (closers or strong setup guys) allowing Romero to shift to 7th & 8th inning work while others are moved down a notch or two as well. That would help a LOT. Borucki just didn't have it today (it happens), but Barnes shouldn't be on the roster at all. Why was Stripling pulled so soon? Only 79 pitches through 5 so it seems very odd, wasn't hit for either. Was still going strong, and nothing in the game summary about it. If he got 1 more inning in then the Jays might have won this one. Very odd.
Cimber: 1.08, got 4 outs yesterday.
Saucedo: 1.54, but probably not really that good and got 2 outs yesterday.
Richards: 1.59, just used as well.
Romano: 2.41, but struggling to throw his slider without sticky substances.
Borucki: 3.86
Barnes: 4.00
Mayza: 4.06
Thornton: 4.78
Dolis: 5.33, returned to action recently, not exactly reliable.
That only leaves Hatch who is supposed to start tomorrow.
Can't really blame the manager for using a middle reliever to finish an inning after a setup guy implode.
You don't have guys warmed up and ready to go all the time.
If they kept Barnes over Payamps, it's because they think he can pitch in higher leverage. Looks like a bad call there, but we don't know whose bad call.
Ryu gave up 5 hits in a row yesterday. I don't know many managers who would keep a pitcher for a 4th round through the batting order after that. Not even the guy in Baltimore in the middle of a 15 game losing streak.
That was no head-scratcher whatsoever. Mets had 5 straight hits, cut a 6-0 lead to 6-3 and had 2 on with 1 out. No one argued against the move at the time, because it was perfectly defensible.
My problem is just the general mistakes and underperforming this team has done throughout the year. Like clearly they’re not getting the most out of this team. When all parts work together this team looks unbeatable but too often multiple parts break down, always seemingly just enough to blow games or let them slip away. This team should be better than they are and while I think there are some construction issues with this team (too few reliable LHB, weak against sliders, not enough plate discipline, not the best defensive alignments) and some poor injury luck they should still be better than they are.
The biggest frustration is losing close ballgames and the answer to that is not more offense, it's better run prevention.
Some days, they will show excellent plate discipline and strike out looking on bad calls.
They strike a fair bit on missed checked swing. Are they worse than the other teams? Probably not.
My guess is that John Schneider will be the next manager.
If management believes Montoyo is impeding success, he should and probably would be replaced ASAP, optics be damned.
What does management believe? I have no clue, other than the fact Montoyo still has the job.
Francona is 62 years old and has health problems. He was absent again just this weekend with a head cold. (He tested negative for Covid.)
I have never heard a whisper of that and actually I think the players, with the exception of Tyler Chatwood and who cares what he thinks, love Montoyo.
I think Montoyo's leadership is reflected in the team's performance -- good sometimes, mediocre the rest. No matter who is at the helm, it's no good just beating up the weak sisters in the league. If you can't beat the teams above you in the standings, and the Jays have been abysmal at that, then you aren't going anywhere. ( Thanks, Captain Obvious)
Ray with his 7.84 ERA was worth T Bergen to Arizona.
K Williams may turn into a good SP or maybe nothing. Stripling seems a decent #4/5. Swingman accordingly to Shapiro.
Huge positives.
Groshans down.
Austin Martin down.
Moreno and Manoah up.
There are coaches working specifically on all of these aspects of the game.
The manager is responsible for the matchups, the batting order, steal attempts, hit and runs, guys hustling, etc.
Beating the weak teams is just as important as beating the stronger teams.
When you win a game 10-3, the other team started resting its best relievers when the score was 6-0.
So you can't expect to score 10 runs the next day as you will face better relievers and probably a better starter.
Jays 47.1%. (43.8%) odds of scoring a wild card versus the A's at 44.4% (40.8%)
Mets at 41.6% (41% odds of winning the division and only 0.6% odds of a wild card spot.)
Yankees at 11.3%. Mariners at 6%.
I would hate to play a wild card game in Tampa.
The remaining games against Boston might have more impact on who wins the other wild card than on Toronto beating the A's or not.