Love seeing Manoah but hate the process leading up to this callup. Fingers crossed.

I don’t understand that comment at all?

The process of dominating the minors?

He should have pitched the whole year in the minor in 2020 and would have over 150 professional innings by now.
Clemens debuted at 21.
Stieb was a 5th rounder, also debuted at 21.
Manoah is 23.

The timing is not great.
I think he's ready, but now instead of coming up to throw 5 good innings, he might think he needs to throw a complete game.
Hopefully, he brings to the mound what Guerrero brings to the plate.

It's the process of elimination.

Roark? Terrible.
Pearson? Re-building.
Hatch? Injured
Kay? Not getting the job done.
Zeuch? Really not getting the job done.
Allgeyer? Not an actual prospect.
Bullpen? Shot.

And so we arrive at Manoah.

None of us know how many innings Manoah threw at the alternate site last year, so only the front office knows how much he is built up. This is a competitive team right now, and needs the best pitchers at the major league level.

I've heard that they want him to throw 130 innings. That is a clear as you can get.

With the advanced studies done now they can tell if the guys arm is dropping, if he is changing his approach due to fatigue, etc. Stuff you had to do by eye before. I figure they won't risk blowing his arm out, but he might be one of those guys who can throw 200 IP at 23 and not suffer injuries, or he could be a Pearson who can't throw 50 before getting hurt. Impossible to know until he gets pushed and the minors was not pushing him at all now. This year 3 starts, 3 wins, 18 IP, 1 run allowed, 2 doubles, 1 HR, 4 singles, 4 HBP, 3 BB 27 K's, peak of 94 pitches, but 76+ all 3 times. 13 GB, 19 FB, 4 LD, 2 popups. 42 looking strikes, 44 swing and a miss strikes, contact made 77 times (mostly fouls). This kid is not seeing AAA as a challenge at all. He was good in college but not this good. When someone does better in AAA than in college odds are he is damn good and learning a LOT - an article in the Athletic said that coaches they talked to had nothing but praise for his training and thought process (he had a book to track his routine before he signed and he brought it into his meetings early on). This isn't your typical kid coming up. He sounds a lot like a Vlad on the mound - someone who lives baseball and studies it non-stop because he loves it. Doubt he will be as fun to watch personality wise as that is asking too much, but if he can grow fast then we are in for a treat.

I guess this is one situation where everyone likes a smart alek.

(I’m here all week.)

Manoah rhymes with groaner.
refers only to previos pun - gotta try the 23 year old shock therapy distraction in this team situation

I don't see the issue with a 23 year old ex college pitcher making the majors. Now obviously last year with Covid (he got it) and the no minor league season he didn't get a lot of innings in, but he did get a lot at WVU. Generally the timeline for college pitchers is shorter like Stroman and Sale and others. He would have come up sometime this year, I don't see an issue with it being sooner rather than later.

Perhaps too early for draft talk, but the latest mock from BA has the Jays taking HS catcher Harry Ford, and they mention the Jays are one of the teams "in on Ford".

who are they going to drop from the 40 man ? Beasley ?

Or they could put Josh Palacios on the 60 day IL, retroactive to May 10th. He's out 6-8 weeks and would still be allowed to "rehab" in the minors before the 60 days are up. That begin said, I don't think Beasley is going to be here for long so it could just be him.

Beasley is an obvious, choice. Milone, too, I think.
Hatch, Merryweather and Murphy will all need 40 roster spots eventually.
I don't think they can do anything with Palacios. He's on the minor league 7-IL.