When Chapman came into the league ten years ago his 100 mph fastball was probably 6-8 mph faster than the average pitcher. Last night Chapmans 100 wasn't far off what the hitters were seeing from Cole. The Tampa pitchers were all throwing upper nineties. Chapmans velocity is not the differentiator that it once was. That might explain his recent losses in the post season.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. I was not unhappy to see him blow another postseason game. Last night's was a really good one.
Like many, I'd be very pleased with a Tampa-Dodgers World Series. I'd probably be rooting for Tampa, but I wouldn't be unhappy if L.A. won. It would be nice for Kershaw to get a ring, and especially while he's still an effective member of the rotation (as opposed to L.A. winning in 2023 when he's a shell of his former self).
The Dodgers have a good core and a lot of likeable players. Also, I do feel sympathetic for them, as they lost to Houston in 2017.
And with respect to Gerry's comment about Tampa's bullpen, it seems like almost every late inning reliever they have throws fastballs in the high nineties with a good breaking pitch in the high eighties. It's remarkable the number of arms they have found and cultivated.
Think about a Pirate fan watching last night's game.
And, don't forget, Gerrit Cole is a former Pirate, who was traded for an underwhelming package of average-ish players and prospects, in a deal that widely criticized at the time, as well.
Pittsburgh went through 3 great years with Bonds in 1990-1993 then missed the playoffs for 20 years and got 3 more playoffs, so I guess the current management team is trying to set up another 20 year gap. Pre-Bonds they had a 10 year gap (the 80's) after a 10 year period of contention (2 WS wins, 4 NLCS losses), 9 year gap, 1 WS (1960), nothing from 1927 to 1960 (WS win). Boy that franchise "enjoys" long gaps eh?
They got better for Cole than what the Yankees gave up for Paxton.
Pittsburgh was known for its wizard pitching coach who could fix anybody.
Except it stopped working when everybody went crazy about launch angles.
The Jays even gave the other highly touted Pirate prospect a looksee but he just doesn't have enough velocity.
They must have thought they could fix Archer into an affordable ace.
His slider was really, really good. And they only seem to like slider/sinker pitchers.
Pittsburgh is going to tank for a while.
That's all they can do.
The Padres have finally had a winning season.
Only took a decade.
Tampa is probably going to trade established guys to make room for their prospects.
Wander Franco, Brendan McKay, Vidal Brujan, Shane McClanahan, Brent Honeywell, Josh Lowe, Ronaldo Hernandez, Moises Gomez, Taylor Walls, Kevin Padlo... Those are all guys ready to contribute who were ranked higher than Arozarena at mlb.com.
Glasnow Round 5 in 2011. So they have a lot of over achievers based on pedigree. TB does not understand how to use the value of the Top 100 prospect lists. Maybe those players are out of their price range.
Would love to see Kiermaier, Kershaw and Bellinger get a ring.
I think Taylor Glasnow would be my prime trade target this offseason.
The Astros don't really have 7+ inning pitches either.
I do like the seven days straight without a travel day. Too bad we can't have that with fans in the stadiums.
If anything, the whole thing has proven itself to be an overreaction.
Now, however, they probably need to keep the NBA and the NHL out of the country as the pandemic gets to its worse.
This will, no doubt, make it difficult for Toronto to sign free agents.
The silver lining is that the Jays have played really well in Buffalo, but players will talk about what it was like playing there and it's probably going to be mostly negative.
Morton, just don't pick up his option and save 15M.
Kiermaier, due over 23M over the next 2 years. They already have 3 other centerfielders and Kiermaier mostly bat 8th.
Snell, similar contract, due over 24M over the next 2 years and they have options.
Zunino is already a free agent.
Renfroe? Had a bad year. Second time through arbitration. They could just non-tender him.
"2021 option valued at $15M (with less than 30 days on disabled list in 2019-20 combined), $10M, $5M, $3M, or $1M (200 or more days on DL)"
He may also decide to retire.
With all the mail-in voting, I'd be surprised to see results before mid- or late-November.
Until this season, he'd been somewhat similar to Grichuk. On one hand he didn't have a bad year, he had a bad 37% of a year, 60/162. On the other hand scottt may well be correct on the non-tender, because I'm guessing there will be a lot more non-tenders this offseason than in the past. Why pay full price for a fringy player when there will be a buyers market for fringy players.
Didn't Patrick Murphy have surgery for this a few years ago?
I don't see a path for him coming back, wonder if the Mets will make the QO ($18 mil) or not. I expect him to try to go to the Yankees or another perpetual contender.
I've seen a lot of speculation on what Morton, who is playing from home, will do if the Rays don't pick up that option.
Morton has even commented on it.
The Athletic also has Kaitlyn McGrath and John Lott who cover the Jays, so having three dedicated correspondents for one MLB team is probably not sustainable (I don't know the Athletic's revenue levels, but they had to make a round of layoffs in the summer). I also believe McGrath and Lott pre-dated Stoeten, for what that's worth.
I found Stoeten's writing at the Athletic better than I had in the past. I don't know if that was a result of his writing style changing naturally or whether it came due to greater editorial oversight and writing for a slightly different audience than on DJF. In any case, I thought he kept his style and some of his snark, without coming off as so abrasive as he used to.
That being said, while I did enjoy his work at the Athletic, I also think highly of Lott and McGrath. Neither is heavy into analytics, but they are both strong writers who find interesting stories to tell.
It's a shame a lot of fanboys seem to be cancelling their Athletic subscriptions as a result of this. It's a really great site, with a lot of good writers on a variety of sports, that is worth supporting (if you are financially able to). I find it is easily worth my subscription price.
Little Joe was simply an absurdly great player - imagine, say, Roberto Alomar with another 10 or 15 HRs and another 50 walks every year - and I'm seriously beginning to wonder when was the last time we lost so many Hall of Famers in the same calendar year. This seems more than a little excessive.
Certainly, we should never forget his immortal distinction, given in Ball Four, between your regular curve ball and your m*th*rf*ck*ng curve. Outfielder Norm Miller liked to pretend to be a broadcaster, and interview his teammates during the game. His interview with Morgan went like this:
--Joe, Joe Morgan, can I have a word with you?
--Sure Norm, how's it going?
--Fine, Joe, fine. We wanted to ask you about that pitch you missed. What was it?
--Norm, that was a m*th*rf*ck*ng curve.
--Can you tell our listeners, Joe, what's the difference between a regular curve and a m*th*rf*ck*ng curve?
--Well, Norm, your regular curve has a lot of spin on it and you can recognize it real early. It breaks down a little bit and out. Now, your m*th*ef*ck*r, that's different. It comes in harder, looks like a fastball. Then all of a sudden it rolls off the top of the table and before you know it, it's m*th*rf*ck*ng strike three.
--Thank you very much, Joe Morgan.
Little Joe is the sixth Hall of Famer we've lost in 2020. Five of them - Seaver, Brock, Gibson, Ford, Morgan - were in the last six weeks, along with Al Kaline back in April. And it's certainly possible that some future Veteran's Committee may look with favour on Jim Wynn's qualifications.
Only once have so many Hall of Fame players passed away in the same year, and it was a very long time ago. 1972 saw the passing of five HoF members: Pie Traynor, Gabby Hartnett, Zack Wheat, Jackie Robinson, Dave Bancroft, along with Roberto Clemente (who was still an active player, of course.)
And now I have a spreadsheet with the year each Hall of Famer died. Lucky me.
Where do you get the impression that fanboys are canceling their subscriptions because of Stoeten being fired at The Athletic?
The Athletic uses a rating system to gauge the success of its authors. Tracks the amount of readers but more importantly the feedback of every reader after every article. There is always a button with every article with a question, "how did you enjoy this article," with "good," "okay" or "not at all" type options.
I imagine he has less readers than Lott and McGrath since he never published in print like them and I imagine his ratings were also lower based on the 2 year subscription I had and the quality I saw between them. It's hard to support. A reader who routinely takes Richard Griffin's mail bag and re-answers the questions and posts that to The Athletic.
Cancelled my subscription after hearing Stoeten was let go. Bad move, Athletic.
Extremely disappointed in the Athletic to see Stoeten let go and considering cancelling.
Damn, just checked and my account just auto renewed. I will be writing to the Athletic registering my disgust and trying to get my money back. I’ll get my Jays content wherever Stoeten ends up.
Looking forward to taking my money elsewhere to wherever Stoeten lands
Really disappointed that The Athletic has let go of Stoeten. He was the main reason I subscribed and as of this point I don’t expect to extend my subscription.
https://theathletic.com/2119615/2020/10/07/birds-eye-view-jays-cuts-walker-and-ray-love-toronto-atkins-speaks-more/
Also, rebuilding managers are often dismissed as soon as a team starts to contend.
I'm afraid some teams will chase Hinch and Cora.
Keuchel made 11 starts and had an ERA of 1.99.
The bullpen was generally good.
However, Don Cooper is 64.
They might have decided it was a good time to make a change.
BTW, I wasn't following the Jays when Cooper pitched 5 innings in Toronto.
I also think we're only speculating to say that he would have gotten worse feedback than Lott or McGrath. It seems reasonable to assume that, I agree. However, it also depends on what sort of numbers of fans he has, since I imagine they are more Stoeten readers who would go and upvote his articles reflexively.
I got the impression that a bunch of Stoeten fanboys were cancelling their subscriptions based on the replies I saw to his Tweet about being letting go by the Athletic, where more than a handful of the replies were of that nature. I don't know how significant a number that will be, if at all significant.
I don't listen to his podcast, but if he did a podcast drunk, then I'm sure that may have factored into the decision.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ha-seong-kim-has-big-mlb-aspirations-and-projections/
Ricky Henderson is ahead of Mike Schmidt IMHO.
In the 1980s Schmidt put up an impressive 56.6 WAR.
In the 1980s Henderson put up 71.1 WAR, and that isn't counting his 9.9 WAR 1990 season where he won MVP.
Schmidt has the 3 MVP awards in the 1980s and did put up better OPS/OPS+, but Henderson had better OBP and baserunning (838 SB - 190 CS: about 82% success rate at very high volume), and post season numbers.
See https://stathead.com/baseball/player-comparison.cgi?request=1&sum=1&type=b&player_id_1_hint=Mike+Schmidt&player_id_1_select=Mike+Schmidt&player_id_1=schmimi01&fromyear_1=1980&toyear_1=1989&player_id_2_hint=Rickey+Henderson&player_id_2_select=Rickey+Henderson&player_id_2=henderi01&fromyear_2=1980&toyear_2=1989 for more.
And five writers actually said, surely his teammate in left field? That guy hit 29 HRs and Joe only hit 27. He drove in 121 runs, and Joe only drove in 111. And he played a pretty good left field, too.
Well, at least the right guy won the damn thing.
Henderson: fWAR from a low of 5.0 in 1987 to a high of 9.7 in 1985. Imagine - a decade where your worst year is a WAR of 5.
Schmidt: Last 2 years of the 80's were terrible - 2.0 and -0.5 fWAR after 5.2 to 9.0 during the rest of the decade. Schmidt's problem is his career covered most of 2 decades. From 1974 to 1987 he ranged from 5.2 to 9.4 for fWAR - crazy good and consistent despite the 81 strike (7.8 fWAR that 2/3's of a year).
A bit surprised when I looked into others - George Brett for example had great peaks (9.1 and an 8.3) but also lows (1.6 in '89, 5 other years sub 5.0). Wade Boggs, Roger Clemens, Dwight Gooden all started too far into the decade to be a 'player of the decade'.
Henderson would be my choice for player of the 80's, but Schmidt isn't a bad choice - Henderson just was better.
Nice grab by Margot as well.
Miraculous 9th inning save to cap it off.
Houston can still hit, there' s just a little something missing to their game.
I just realized that the Jays will have the 19th draft pick since Houston is skipping the first round.
Just wait to see what Baz can do.
Also of note, while the Cubs traded Torres for 3 months of Chapman, the Rays basically traded Ryne Stanek for 6 years of Nick Anderson. Stranek had made 56 starts for the Rays with ERAs of 2.98 and 3.40 but in Miami has only pitched 31 times in the bullpen with ERAS of 5.48 and 7.20.
A the end of 2019, MLB had him as #51 with grades of Hit: 60, Power: 55, Run: 55, Arm: 55, Field: 55, Overall: 55
Only 25 AB and hasn't hit at all in Miami this year. 1 for 25.
The Marlins signed Corey Dickerson (31) and Mathew Joyce (35) and traded for Starling Marte (31).
Waiting for prospects can be painful.
Also, the Rays gave 400K to Sanchez but 3M to Adrian Rondon in 2014 and he hasn't hit anywhere.
The Rays also got Trevor Richards in that trade.
Sanchez for Anderson is still a better trade than Torres for Chapman.
Of course, the Cubs got a World Series out of that, but haven't done anything in the playoffs since.
Rays: only counting guys they signed using the years since they became a contender (avoiding the 'Devil Rays' era when they were 1st overall/top 5 annually)... 2008: 2.2 WAR; 2009: -0.1 WAR; 2010: 36.4 (Kiermaier); 2011: 9.3 (Snell and some negatives); 2012: 5.1; 2013: 0.6; 2014: -0.2; 2015: 6.6 (Brandon Lowe); 2016: -0.3; 2017: 0.8; 2018-2020: none reached.
Jays: same time frame for reference...2008: 0.9; 2009: 40.4 (Gomes, Marisnick, DNS Paxton); 2010: 29.4 (Syndergaard, Sanchez, DNS Bryant...sigh); 2011: 33 (Pillar - DNS Aaron Nola); 2012: 15.2 (Stroman); 2013: 16.8; 2014: -0.7; 2015: 0.1;2016: 8.6; 2017: -0.2; 2018-20: none.
So net over those years: Rays: 60.4 Jays: 143.5 - Rays have 2 great ones (Kiermaier & Snell) while the Jays have a stack plus 3 killer Did Not Signs in Nola, Bryant, and Paxton (not factored into the total or it would've been around 200). 2016 has Biggio, Bichette, and Zeuch so the spread could grow drastically.
Clearly the Rays don't count on their draft. Imagine if they did better on it.
One example: Matt Garza for C Archer in their package. Then Archer to the Pirates. So prospects that are received are high quality that have a good chance of working out. They do that a lot because they refuse to pay the $ to keep them. So quality and quantity.
We traded a good player Halladay for 2 top prospects. Drabek and d'Arnaud. I think very often you miss. Olerud had a lot left when traded for R Person. He could have been a non prospect because he was kind of old with a low ceiling.
TB also makes mediocre trades. Good reliever E Pagan for a useful M Margot (OF). Maybe they had a surplus or they thought he would be too expensive to pay.
AA never picked up waiver claims. Not sure why (mediocrity). No rule 5 also. Atkins got Bass on waivers and A Cole as Minor league FA. Biagini and Luciano as rule 5.
Aaron Sanchez has been putting on showcases for teams to try and get a deal for 2021. He missed 2020 after shoulder surgery.
It sure looked like a great deal for two months. The Expos rolled into August in first place, and Langston went 9-3, 1.99 in his first 15 starts in Montreal.
It was the offense that shrivelled up and died. Langston lost twice in September by 2-0 scores, and had to pitch a shutout to win another time when they team scored a single run for him. The Expos were scoring about 4.5 runs per game through the first four months - it dropped to 3.25 over the last two.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/analysis/2020/10/04/the-blue-jays-and-their-top-prospects-made-the-most-of-a-year-without-minor-league-baseball-some-more-than-others.html
I never knew what to make of that signing. While I enjoyed his FG podcasts when he'd interview Dayn Perry, the two carrying on like intelligent imbeciles, I never really got the sense that Cistulli had remarkable acumen when it came to baseball. He always struck me as a writer and entertainer first. I must have underestimated his abilities.
https://tht.fangraphs.com/tht-annual-2018/the-success-rate-of-fringe-five-alumni-is-better-than-anyone-would-have-thought/
They can't get Arozarena out and that's forcing errors.
He got a hit, scored and then was walked intentionally in the same inning.
So, what now? Greinke in an elimination game?
Kim makes a lot of sense for the Jays. He's a fit in both position (3B/SS) and age (25). Those projections look extremely optimistic, but from an upside standpoint, he might be the best free agent target for the Jays this winter (aside from pitching, obviously). The FO signed Ryu this past winter, and Oh two years ago, so at least there's some recent history of South Korean players signing with the team. Whether that means anything in terms of attracting KBO players going forward remains to be seen.
My stab in the dark with the 19th pick was #9 and #10 on each list.
College:
Ethan Wilson OF Lefty bat with both power and hit tool but weak arm.
Jonathan Cannon RHP 6'6" 207 lb.mid 90s FB with plus slider and changeup.
HS:
James Wood CF fastest player in class pretty good power and hit.
Josh Baez OF/RHP best power. 97 mph FB.
We could get a good player.
The draftees from 2006 to 2016 were 10 pitchers (2 left handed) and 1 shortstop.
Guys like Andrew Cashner, Shelby Miller, Mike Foltynewicz, Matt Barnes, Michael Wacha and Marco Gonzales.
More recently, picks in the last 4 years have all signed for over 3M and have been 2 outfielders, a thirdbaseman and a left handed pitcher. Too early to know the results.
Right now, if you want to sign the best player available, you can't save much.
Logan Warmoth was pick 22 overall in 2017.
T.J. Zeuch was pick 21 in 2016.
D. J. Davis was pick 17 in 2012.
Stroman was pick 22 in 2012.
Tyler Beede was pick 21 2011.
David Cooper was pick 17 in 2008.
The first 2 were from the current front office but before Shane Farrell became scouting director.
Aesthetically though I think it’s not having to watch a very good team play in that dimly lit joke stadium in Tampa. That place even sounds bad on television.
- 3 times the Jays had that pick: Alex Rios (1999), Shannon Stewart (1992), Eddie Zosky (1989)
- Best ever: Roger Clemens (1983) 139.2 bWAR
- 2nd best: Bobby Grich (1967) 71.1 bWAR
- 3rd best: Alex Rios: 27.3 bWAR
- Also over 20: Mike Scioscia (1976) & Shannon Stewart
- 2 more over 10: Andrew Cashner (2008), James Loney (2002)
- 7 in the 5-9.9 range
- Expos had it once and wasted it on Dave Wainhouse (-1.6 bWAR 1988 pick - 5 picks later was Alex Fernandez but they did get Marquis Grissom in the 3rd round that year)
So no high picks used on the likes of DJ Davis and Reggie Pruitt (round 24). Both selected by AA.
Teoscar, Fisher and J Davis have all been healthy and were able to hit in the minors. Teoscar had the luxury of learning to hit ML pitchers when the Jays were not contending and succeeded. But the team suffered through his weak defense.
Now that we are contending learning at the ML level is a luxury that we do not have. J Davis has 1 more option and has elite defense.
Fisher has good tools and is a lefty bat but no options left. If he is DFA'd we risk losing him.
Atkins used high draft picks on JB Woodman 2016 and G Conine 2018. I am not sure what was the issue with the bat of Woodman, I think Ave and Ks. Conine too many Ks in Lansing and too little time to solve this issue due to his suspension and covid.
I've really no idea about him at all.
Lots of mental issues it seems.
The rest of our team (defense and pitching) should improve over time. Vlad and Rowdy will get better. Teoscar, Gurriel and Grichuck are good enough in the OF defensively IMO. The pitching is not really a mess, but getting ML tested. I expect the pitching to be a problem until it sorts itself out in a few years. Pearson is good now but needs to prove it. Manoh, Kloff and SWR will start arriving in the 2nd half of 2022. Hope some of them can be good.
I expect NYY to be better in 2021. Especially if Severino is back. It is best that I don't doubt TB. Boston will be good if they can improve the rotation behind Sale. The young Jays will gain experience and become good eventually. I believe that they will still have growing pains in 2021 so I rank them behind NYY, TB and Boston.
It will be interesting to see what the voters make of Joey Votto first. Votto seems like a no-brainer to me, and probably to all of you as well - but when his name comes up it's going to be a first baseman who barely cleared 2,000 hits and 1,000 RBIs and didn't even hit 400 HRs. And Votto is quite clearly better than Freeman.
Of course, Freeman's counting totals are liable to be significantly better than Votto's because he had about a three season head start at the beginning of his career. That will likely make up for quite a bit.
As to the Rays - this is what I figured the Jays would do at some point - over-manage. Your ace allows 2 baserunners and you pull him? Dumb, dumb, dumb. Give the ace a chance to get out of it. That is what they do - get out of jams. Reminds me of the Jays pulling R.A. Dickey with 2 out in the 5th (1 runner on) just so they could hand a cheap win to David Price. Was idiotic, but not as much as this was as Dickey had his issues and Price was an "ace". This is the playoffs - this is when guys like Snell are supposed to shine but the Rays haven't let him throw 6 innings yet in any game this playoff season. 3 times in the 80's now for pitches, once allowed to get to 105. Now might not get to pitch again until 2021.
Castillo quickly blew hit and Cash made sure the pen would be well rested for game 7.
Lowe has been terrible since the season ended.
In a nutshell he says the drama and theatre of mlb from the past is gone because of college analytics ruining baseball. No more great performers.
The original rant started when Montoya took out Shoemaker after 3 innings of work.
https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/good-show/sept-30-chris-russo-john-axford-and-teeing-up-the-nba-finals-with-frank-isola/
Tbh for me the starter going long isn’t something I’m bothered that we lost. I am a little more bothered by defensive shifts and that the game is so much more just 3 true outcomes (out, K, HR) now. Balls in play happen less and do less well.
I cannot stand Correa.
His pep talk the other day looked a lot like bullying.
This is baseball. The rookies are not supposed to talk back to the team's established stars.
Having somebody yelling in somebody else's face should never be seen as a positive.
If this site was being redone odds are it'd be like 1001 other sites - where the comments become irrelevant and the story is everything. Instead here it is the readers who drive most of the site imo. Me and others write stories to get conversations going, not to be the Gods on High. Even though my ego would enjoy that :)
It'll be interesting to see if we get a 'best vs best' with the Rays vs Dodgers (only 40 win teams this year) or best vs 3rd best (SD and LA had better records than Atlanta).
A newer manager like Montoyo would do well to follow the analytic advice, especially with an analytically inclined FO. But he also has to learn to use his judgement when situations call for it. How good is his judgement will be one of main deciding factors for managerial longevity.
Renteria's dismissal was apparently predicated on a combination of poor decisions on his part combined with pushback against the analytic department. If a manager pushes back, he had better be right a lot, especially in crucial situations..
Don't ask me, I'm old school. As is fitting for an old person. Desktop, with two big monitors. Once you get used to having lots of visual real estate, there's no going back. Or elsewhere.
True dat. Chrome is my browser of choice, and it gets the job done well enough for reading this site or making a simple comment. But if I'm actually writing something, or if HTML or pictures or inserting a link are going to be involved, I always dust off the Firefox.
Regarding the old school vs analytics, where I stand is similar to Kasi.
I would hope openers are only used out of emergency and not strategy, but as far as removing starters before they face an order for the 3rd time, that is likely going to become the norm for SP's moving forward. At least in the playoffs when each game is magnified in importance. This is not going to be specific to the Rays. Every team is going to do it. The execution has to work, though. That's the issue. The Yankees used their best pitching prospect as an opener (Garcia) in Game 2 of the ALDS instead of letting him pitch longer, and it backfired. If you're going to live or die with analytics, then you have to be right more often than not. I did not agree with pulling Shoemaker after 3 innings, but the Shoe/Ray combo did what it was supposed to do. The execution made the decision look better.
If Cash wins it all, we could see less managerial judgment.
The wildcard was a best of 3 and Montoyo had already figured out who was pitching when.
It was all on the team to execute.
Right now the biggest factor is still the pandemic.
Trading resumes the day after the World Series.
Then teams have 5 days to offer QOs for 18.9M. A big raise over last year.
The Rays situation was different - your ace is on the mound and you have just 1 round to go with the game not a 'must win' but still a 'want to win' to avoid a risky one game winner takes all situation. Given they won game 7 it worked out but still seemed a poor choice imo.
I'm hoping MLB sees how this takes away from the game, going with 101 relievers, and limits rosters more on the pitching side. Give a manager 10 pitchers max and he'll let starters go 6+ often. Give him 15 and no one goes 5+. If they are limited to 13 next year (as is the plan) then teams like the Jays and Rays will need to adjust as then you can't just pull everyone after 2 times through the order.
For most of them... yeah, probably. I think that your modern pitcher simply doesn't have more than one way to attack a hitter. They don't know how to do it. They generally have this one thing they can do. It works quite well once through the order and you can usually get by with it a second time. But then... well, no con man makes a living in the same town for very long.
But obviously, there's enormous value if you can find a pitcher who's still effective the third time through the order. That's two or three innings you don't have to give to the bullpen. Verlander, third time through the order: .248/.300/.401 - no, not as good as first or second time. But good enough, especially with a lead. And guys like Halladay and the Unit (never mind old-timers like Seaver and Gibson) were better than that third time around. It used to be part of a pitcher's skill set, something they were expected to learn. And it's still worth learning.
The surprise opener wasn't a bad move. Maybe they give Garcia more innings, but that only makes it harder for Happ since he has to wait longer to get in the game.
1) If I asked who hit the first ever Blue Jays home run, people would be typing Doug Ault before I even hit the Submit Comment button (OK, that's a bit hyperbolic). But who hit the first ever Tampa Bay home run?
2) The Toronto Blue Jays made it into the postseason without a single player who had been in the majors for 10-plus years. The last team to do so was the Philadelphia Phillies, in 1915.
For the trivia question, I guessed Bubba Trammell. It wasn't him. He was third player in Rays history to hit a homer. Also interesting, who hit the second homer in Rays history?
I had no idea, so I looked it up.
And then, I thought - well, who hit the first Yankees home run?
Technically, it was Ed Sweeney on 5 May 1913, because that's the year they started calling themselves "Yankees." The franchise started play in 1903 as an expansion team, replacing the defunct Baltimore Orioles franchise. And the first New York (AL) home run hitter was John Ganzel, on May 11 1903. Yes - May. The team hit 8 HRs in 1903.
By now - well, by now I'm totally into it. I'm finding out the first HR for every AL franchise. (The NL teams go back too far to have this kind of data.) And it's pretty much a whole gang of obscure nobodies, most of whom I'd never heard of. The only Hall of Famer is the guy who hit the first Tampa Bay homer back in 1998. I thought Nap Lajoie - who led the league with 14 HRs - was going to make the list for the A's, but the immortal Lave Cross beat him by a couple of days.
A couple things struck me as fun. As most people know, Doug Ault hit the first Jays homer, one of two he hit that day. The exact same thing happened once before - the first HR in franchise history by a man who hit a second homer later in the game. Just to make it more fun, both times the first homer was hit in the first inning, and both players were first baseman. The original Doug Ault was Ted Kluszewski of the Angels, on April 11 1961.
The American League started up in April 1901, and its eight teams hit a grand total of nine (9!) homers that month. I had to look at the box score to discover who hit the first Detroit homer, because Pop Dillon and Kid Elberfield both went deep in the same game on April 29. In the same inning, as it turned out. Dillon followed by Elberfield was the first back-to-back in AL history.
And the very first home run in AL history was struck by the immortal Erve Beck, playing 2b for the Cleveland Blues, in a 7-3 loss to Chicago on April 25, 1901. It was his first career homer, the first of 6 he would hit that season. Which was enough to tie for 9th most in the league.
Is it just me, or is Mookie Betts just a whole lot more likeable in blue and white? Not that I actually disliked him before....
Too bad the small market Red Sox couldn't afford to keep him. He seems like a pretty good player.
Lou Gehrig had 21 extra-base hits and a 1.214 OPS in World Series games.
Babe Ruth had 22 extra-base hits and a 1.214 OPS in World Series games.
Willie Mays slashed .239/.308/.282 with no home runs in 78 World Series plate appearances.
Hank Aaron slashed .362/.405/.710 with six home runs in 74 World Series plate appearances.
And quite the vertical leap. What is he, 5'10 or something?
Surely unmatched by the other world class bowlers.
5'9 at the most.
Someone noticed (I did not) that the 3rd time through the order was very troublesome. I thought and still do that it was the pen that was weak most of the Jays years from about 1995 to 2014.
2020's strong pen was due to the 1 inning wonders most definitely. Last night J Urias pitched 3 innings in a tense situation (I know the whole game was tense).
We need to acquire/develop some 3-5 inning pitchers that are good. In 2020 Ryu, T Wakler, Shoemaker did the job. Coming close and with a history Stripling, Ray, Anderson for 2020.
The whole season was SSS for the above veterans. For SRF, P Murphy and Zeuch the SSS was miniscule and they definitely played games against the NYY (only Sept games).
I used to look at it just by pitch count, just speculating that the pitcher is starting to get tired around 70 pitches.
Maybe the fastball isn't so firm, maybe you see more hangers.
The Jays starters were not throwing enough strikes. It's hard to go far with those 70 pitches if everybody sees 3 balls or more. In Little League you gotta make sure the pitchers are not over their allowed pitch count and many coaches didn't care. It's really annoying having to tell the umpire that the opposing pitcher has to come out.
-You're guy's over 80 pitches.
-What about yours?
-He's at 35.