Batter's Box Interactive Magazine - Mount Manoah Erupts on Volcanoes

The #BlueJays affiliates won three and lost four Monday. Dunedin's doubleheader was rained out so they will try to play two on Tuesday. #LetsGoBlueJays

Buffalo 5 Rochester 4

A perfect day at the plate was enjoyed by Roemon Fields as he went 2-for-2 with a walk. Nash Knight collected his first Triple-A hit with an RBI double. Anthony Alford was 1-for-4 with his 21st stolen base.

Matt Dermody got the win with 2-2/3 scoreless innings. Ryan Tepera allowed two unearned markers in his one inning of relief. Jackson McClelland punched out two batters in a perfect eighth and Travis Bergen struck out one in a spotless ninth for the save.

Trenton 5 New Hampshire 1

Brock Lundquist had two doubles to bring his total to 20. Josh Palacios (16) and Forrest Wall (27) had the other two-baggers.

Yennsy Diaz was dinged for five runs in 6-2/3 innings but only two were earned. He struck out seven to match the seven hits allowed.

Great Lakes 11 Lansing 7

Otto Lopez, John Aiello and Hunter Steinmetz all had three hits apiece with Steinmetz doubling twice and Lopez doubling once. Yorman Rodriguez and Gabriel Moreno had two.

Troy Miller was turfed for five uneanred runs out of six in 4-2/3 inning but struck out four. Andy McGuire got the loss with three runs charged (two earned) over 2-2/3 innings.

Vancouver 9 Salem-Keizer 1

Alek Manoah set the tone with four shutout frames, scattering three hits and a walk with eight punchouts. William Gaston gave up a solo dinger got the win with 2-1/3 innings relief. Grayson Hufffman pitched 1-2/3 scoreless innings and Mike Pascoe struck out the side in a one-hit ninth.

Cameron Eden cranked his first professional home run, walked twice and stole a base. Ryan Sloniger doubled twice, walked and drove in three. Will Robertson walked three times.

Burlington 3 Bluefield 2

Justin Ammons and Leonardo Jimenez had two hits apiece at the top of the order. Ammons is hitting .409. Miguel Hiraldo doubled for the 20th time this year.

Jol Concepion coughed up a two-run dinger in the first to take the loss. Adams Cuevas worked the next four innings and struck out six to offset four hits and a walk. Kyle Huckaby worked two scoreless frames with a punchout.

GCL Blue Jays 6 GCL Yankees East 3 - Game 1 (7 Innings)

Orelvis Martinez hit a two-run home run and drew a walk in his other at-bat before Pedro Hurtado pinch-hit for him and drew a walk. Jhon Solarte had a pair of hits and Hugo Cardona drew a couple of walks and added his 20th stolen base of the year. Yhon Perez singled, walked and swiped a bag.

The G-Jays used three pitchers to get through the first two innings. Elixon Caballero made just his second appearance of the year by getting the first two outs—one of them a strikeout—while giving up a hit and a walk. The 19 year-old Venezuelan righty pitched one game for Bluefield where he gave up one run in 3-1/3 innings in late June. He was assigned to Vancouver but never made an appearance for the C's. Miguel Olivo stranded the two runners for Caballero with an inning-ending punchout. Danny Barnes also saw the mound for the first time in a while. He faced the minimum three batters while striking out one. The last time Barnes pitched was in Buffalo back in late April. Winder Garcia gave up three runs (two earned) on two hits and two walks over five innings, ringing up three for the victory.

GCL Yankees East 5 GCL Blue Jays 3 - Game 2 (7 Innings)

Two-hit performances were turned in by Yhon Perez, Hugo Cardona and Alberto Rodriguez who also drew a walk. A-Rod is now batting .313 on the season. Perez doubled and stole his 11th base.

Rafael Monsion was in line for the win after five frames of one-run ball on two hits. He struck out four and his groundout total was five. The roof caved in on Williams Moreno in the sixth when he was charged with three runs, two of them earned, to take the loss.

DSL Blue Jays

The DSL Jays ended their season on a winning note as they finished at .500 with 35 wins and 35 losses. Juan Pizarro led the hitters with a .284 batting average and placed second in runs (30), RBI (25) and stolen bases (24). Winder Garcia finished in a three-way tie for most wins with four and was second in saves with three.

*** 3 Stars!!! ***

3. Cameron Eden, Vancouver

2. Roemon Fields, Buffalo

1. Alek Manoah, Vancouver

Linescores

Extra Innings

Sportsnet checks in on Buffalo reliever Jackson McClelland.
MiLB.com has a feature on Dunedin's Samad Taylor and another on Simeon Woods-Richardson.
Steve Ewen of The Vancouver Province has a feature on the C's pitching duo of Adam Kloffenstein and Alek Manoah.
The Toronto Star also has a story on King Kloff.
C's Plus Baseball has a chat with Tanner Morris.
The Commonwealth Times has a story on Bluefield pitcher Sam Ryan.

Posted by #2JBrumfield on Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 01:22 AM EDT.

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Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 06:41 AM EDT (#380439) #

Mount Manoah is a great nick name!

ayjackson - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 06:54 AM EDT (#380440) #

I had hoped Man Mountain Manoah might catch on (a take off 80s journeyman wrestler Man Mountain Moore), but Mount Manoah is acceptable as short from.

uglyone - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 07:29 AM EDT (#380441) #

Id like to see Manoah get the quick promotion. Maybe even all the way up to Dunedin.

scottt - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 07:57 AM EDT (#380442) #

Manoah will be 22 next year. Koff still just 20.
Quietly, Kendall Williams has allowed just 2 runs in 12 GCL innings, 6 BB, 15 K, 0.83 WHIP and opponent hitting .100.

Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 08:03 AM EDT (#380443) #

Uglyone, do you mean this year for a quick promotion? Stroman jumped to AA after a short stint in Vancouver and was in the majors in under two years form being drafted, and I would guess represents best case situation promotion wise.

Jonny German - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 08:12 AM EDT (#380444) #

Ugly, is there any point to promoting now with less than a week to go in the season? I assume Manoah starts next year at Dunedin. Followed by Simeon Woods Richardson and Eric Pardinho. That'll be fun.

uglyone - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 08:13 AM EDT (#380445) #

This year. Dunedin is in the playoffs, right?

Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 08:20 AM EDT (#380446) #

Yes they won the first half, and I see that experience as pretty valuable as well.

Mike Green - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 09:47 AM EDT (#380450) #

I assume Manoah starts next year at Dunedin. Followed by Simeon Woods Richardson and Eric Pardinho. That'll be fun.

Concur on both counts. I also think that Kloffenstein might be promoted all the way to Dunedin too. With Groshans and Moreno there too, it would be fun to be there in April.

The club seems to be carefully monitoring Manoah's workload in the draft year- he threw 108 innings in college prior to the draft. I would be very surprised if he was promoted to Dunedin for the playoffs.

Mike Green - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 09:52 AM EDT (#380451) #

By the way, there is a Manoa mountain range in Hawaii.

Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 09:52 AM EDT (#380452) #

I think SWR and Manoah both have a chance to start in AA, or will likely have quick promotions.

Mike Green - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 10:40 AM EDT (#380454) #

The club does like to start pitchers in Dunedin in April rather than in the often cold Northeast. I agree that there is a pretty good chance that Manoah and SWR are in New Hampshire at some point in May.

bpoz - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 10:58 AM EDT (#380455) #

This FO has only promoted Borucki (2017) and Pearson (2019) fast. Both injury prone.

Burucki stared to dominate in NH 2017. He did not have to deal with the AAA ball.

I listened to Pearson say that the AAA ball is different. A popup carried but was caught. "An out is an out".

This Sept and next year will tell much about their promotion policy. IMO.

uglyone - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 11:41 AM EDT (#380456) #

I think a few outings in A+ to end the year would put him on a better track for a quick May promotion to AA next year if he pitches well.

Selfishly i'd like to see what he does in A+ at 21 right now (age appropriate) just to get a better sense of where hes at as a prospect (despite the inevitable tiny sample). As nice as dominating short season is, at age 21 its hard to put much value on those numbers yet.

Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 11:56 AM EDT (#380458) #

I know its small sample sizes but just for fun here are Manoah vs. Pearson in Vancouver:

Manoah (21): 17 IP, 14.29 K/9, 2.65 BB/9, 35.3 GB%, 2.65 ERA, 2.44 FIP, 2.40 xFIP
Pearson (20): 19 IP, 11.37 K/9, 2.37 BB/9, 39.5 GB%, 0.95 ERA, 2.08 FIP, 2.81 xFIP

I know Pearson and his 100+ MPH heater got the hype, but Manoah is quite the power pitcher himself at 94-97 MPH..

Nigel - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 11:57 AM EDT (#380459) #

uglyone, I understand your comment about high picks dominating in Vancouver but Manoah's performance does avoid the red flag that comes with high college picks who are thoroughly mediocre in Vancouver (like Harris and Warmoth).

Mike Green - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#380460) #

The playoff experience would be nice, but it's more important to keep his workload where you want it. Manoah has only thrown 17 innings so far in Vancouver, and they've slowly increased his pitch limit to 65. If they had decided that he could throw 30-35 innings this summer, then maybe a playoff appearance is just the ticket.

bpoz - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 12:27 PM EDT (#380463) #

Rob Longley says Manoah throws 100 mph. Pearson's high mark is 104 I believe.

uglyone - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 12:31 PM EDT (#380464) #

Oh yeah nigel i'm not worried about that. Manoah is real good and looked to me better than the pitcher taken a few spots ahead of him. I'm just wondering if i can start thinking of him as a special prospect yet. Near 40k% is a promising start no matter the age.

Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 01:21 PM EDT (#380469) #

Short season debuts for first round college pitchers:

2016: Zeuch (20)       : 23 IP, 8.61 K/9, 1.96 BB/9, 68.8 GB%, 3.52 ERA, 3.07 FIP, 2.96 xFIP
2015: Harris (21)           : 36 IP, 8.00 K/9, 5.25 BB/9, 42.9 GB%, 6.75 ERA 4.02 FIP, 4.48 xFIP
2012: Stroman (21)    : 11 IP, 11.91 K/9, 2.38 BB/9, 48.1 GB%, 3.18 ERA, 1.47 FIP, 2.35 xFIP
2010: Wojciechowski (21): 12 IP, 8.25 K/9, 3.00 BB/9, 57.1 GB%, 0.75 ERA, 2.64 FIP, 3.25 xFIP
2007: Cecil (20)           : 49 IP, 10.15 K/9, 2.0 BB/9, 1.27 ERA, 2.33 FIP, 2.49 xFIP

Did not pitch:

2014: Hoffman
2010: McGuire
2009: Jenkins
2007: Magnuson

It is interesting that none of the players who did pitch in their draft year did not turn out well.

Generally though outside of Harris every pitch who did pitch in their pro debut did dominate, and out of the four that had strong debuts only one has flamed out.

Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 01:23 PM EDT (#380470) #

*It is interesting that none of the players who did not pitch in short season in their draft year did not turn out well*

Marc Hulet - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 01:38 PM EDT (#380471) #

Take MILB velocities with a grain of salt... home teams often have the gun set 2-3 mph hot. I've been told by reliable sources that Vancouver runs hot. The best, accurate velo comes off a scout's radar gun.

uglyone - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 01:46 PM EDT (#380472) #

nice list, shoeless - exactly why (selfishly) i'd like to see what he can do in full season ball before getting too excited.

Mike Green - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 02:22 PM EDT (#380475) #

Kaitlyn McGrath has a fine interview with Alek Manoah over at the Athletic. The bit on the development of his slider in the Cape Cod League is fascinating. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders, in addition to the physical tools.

Mike Green - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 02:48 PM EDT (#380478) #

Dunedin is playing a doubleheader this afternoon against Fort Myers. The Miracle's first baseman is Trey Cabbage. In the name department, he has Mike Cubbage beat.

hypobole - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 04:29 PM EDT (#380484) #

Mike, what stood out to me from the Manoah interview were his thoughts on the Jays.

"What stood out to me the most was their investment in player development is really huge."

"There’s a lot of organizations, there’s a blueprint when you get drafted, like, ‘Hey, you get drafted, this is what we do here’ and you have to develop into that blueprint."

"When I met with the Blue Jays that was one of the main things, they were like, ‘We’re going to have your routine, maybe we’ll just refine it"

"Everybody in the organization has a different routine and a different plan because everybody’s original in their own way".

rafael - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 05:02 PM EDT (#380488) #

*It is interesting that none of the players who did not pitch in short season in their draft year did not turn out well*
Its clear what you mean and interesting posts for sure - but double to triple negatives are hard on my poor head

Mike Green - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 05:06 PM EDT (#380489) #

I noticed that too, hypobole, but I'd heard similar things from other players. I remember Bo Bichette indicating that he was happy to sign with Blue Jays because he knew that they would not be messing with his unorthodox swing.

The drafting and development side of the organization has been going pretty well. When the Jays made the Stroman trade, I was not happy to see him go but also I had some respect for the FO's ability to judge whether SWR was perhaps better than the industry's evaluation of him.

85bluejay - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 05:24 PM EDT (#380490) #

If I read those comments that hypobole mentioned I'd be thinking Manoah was well coached for his interview, emphasizing the Jays FO talking points - I mean has Manoah done a comparison of teams to say that the Jays spending in player development is huge or I doubt he has inside knowledge about how other organizations develop their prospects - I'm not knocking the interview or the FO, it's just that I'd interpret his comments differently, as more of a PR piece.

scottt - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 05:51 PM EDT (#380494) #

So, Atkins is a genius who let the players hype the fans while not committing himself?

Interesting theory.

hypobole - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 05:53 PM EDT (#380495) #

Shapiro's only good PR move was hiring Mr. Burns' hypnotist to coach players' interviews.

scottt - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 05:54 PM EDT (#380496) #

Mike Cubbage would be a great name on a Chicago team.

Not quite as good as a Whitey Stocking on the other one, though.

scottt - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 05:57 PM EDT (#380497) #

They do like to focus on something unique when they do prospect features.
Like the McClelland's family camper, for example.

bpoz - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 06:19 PM EDT (#380499) #

I think it is more than Atkins being a genius!! Maybe he is. I really don't know.

He did not respond I believe, to Stroman and Sanchez voicing their displeasure this year. The losing was hard on everyone.

I never fully bought into his Blue Jay family values or what ever he was talking about. Being good team mates and stuff. Then Pillar said that the veterans treated the younger players badly. Pillar's 1st full time season was 2015 when all the super stars showed up.

How much does team chemistry really mean. I always thought that Stroman said good things of his team mates. Sanchez took out an ad in the newspaper thanking everyone for his time in Toronto.

bpoz - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 06:53 PM EDT (#380500) #

We have some very impressive arms in the system. They seem to be meeting each other and bonding is possibly the proper word.

Social media allows them to see who did what. Zeuch No Hitter, 0 runs allowed by almost everyone.

#2JBrumfield - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 07:12 PM EDT (#380502) #

My apologies for the numerous spelling mistakes on this thread. I think we are in need of pitch clocks at the Short Season level because nine-inning games should not take 3:40 to play.

Anyways, Manoah's slider was filthy, dirty, sick, wicked, nasty, insert your own adjective here. The movement on that pitch was impressive. It was fun to watch!

greenfrog - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 07:13 PM EDT (#380503) #

Alek Manoah vs. Corbin Carroll, both of whom were available when the Jays selected, is going to be an interesting comparison in the coming years. Both are off to outstanding starts in their professional careers (Carroll’s sample size is a bit larger).

85bluejay - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 07:26 PM EDT (#380504) #

And I would add Jackson Rutledge, whom the Jays are said to have strongly considered along with Manoah and Rutledge is also off to a good start having reached full season A ball.

Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 07:37 PM EDT (#380505) #

#2JBrumfield I love the first hand description of the Manoah's slider!

I still like Manoah more than Rutledge two months post draft, but I think Carroll would have been the best pick. All three look like solid picks though!

Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 08:17 PM EDT (#380506) #

Anthony Kay with 1 BB, 4Ks and 0 ER through 5 IP. Between Pearson, Zeuch and Kay the Buffalo rotation might legitimately be better than the MLB one right now.

hypobole - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 08:38 PM EDT (#380509) #

Kay, who the Mets traded for Stroman, pitching for Buffalo. Graterol, who the Twins wouldn't trade for Stroman, pitching for Rochester.

Nigel - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 09:13 PM EDT (#380511) #

Moreno, Lopez, Jimenez and Hiraldo all containing to finish their year’s on a strong note offensively tonight. Hiraldo with 4 (no that isn’t a typo) errors tonight- 3 of them on throws. I wonder if he has the yips? It does likely answer a question that I had regarding Hiraldo’s defence.

hypobole - Tuesday, August 27 2019 @ 11:47 PM EDT (#380515) #

Box score has Hiraldo with only 2 errors - 1 fielding, one throwing.

Nigel - Wednesday, August 28 2019 @ 01:04 AM EDT (#380518) #

Phew. It must have been a clitch that they corrected at some point. It was listed as 4 errors earlier.

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