I would totally watch a Vancouver Canadians game on a night when the Blue Jays are not playing.

I see Abbadessa continuing hot.
How much of a jump is it from the GCL league to the Appy league anyways - both being"rookie" ball.
Is he getting on anyone's prospect radar ?
Hows his defence ?

Davis is having a very solid year in AA. Does he have a shot at being a late-blooming MLB regular or fourth outfielder? Maybe the Jays could give him a cup of coffee in September.

Davis has been killing left-handed pitching, and has cut his K rate and improved his stolen base efficiency.  If you had a left-handed centerfielder or corner outfielder, he might make a fine 4th outfielder for a few years.

Perdomo is having a good game today on Dunedin.

Angel Perdomo with another encouraging start 5ip/10K/1BB - 6'6" guys usually take time to get their body in sync and he's had a most encouraging year - hopefully he gets a taste of AA to prepare for 2019.

The Jays have some late high schools guys from the last 2 drafts who are showing encouraging results in the early going - I really like Davis Schneider Stats - a northern climate guy - wonder about his defence as he's played 2B/3B - maybe a utility guy prospect.

Also 17 y.o CF Jhon Solarte in the DSL showing allround offensive ability & a SH - if he can stay in CF that would be great. I don't recall him being an expensive signee but I don't keep up on that stuff.

above should read "the Jays have some late round drafted high school guys from the last 2 drafts"

would love to see an outfield/DH clearout so that guys like Davis/Smith/Fields can get an audition.

agreed on that 85, with Grichuk, Pillar and Herndandez looking solid, some deserving guys aren't getting a look.  Davis is obviously too good for AA but where do you play him in Buffalo?  The Bisons just released Ian Parmley - glad the kid got his cup of coffee, he was a true overachiever as a senior signing -  but when (if?) Pompey comes back, he deserves to start along with Alford and Smith.
Fields is a long shot at this point - he stole between 44 and 50 bases a year until this season, but has 14 vs. 10 CS in Buffalo this year.  At 27 years old, I can't help but think he's lost a step or two, which would also explain his reduced offense.  As a one-tool guy, that's a hard hurdle. 

anybody know anything about Santos Moreno?  Mexican kid who turned 18 in February, is listed at 5 ft. 9, and has impressed in 4 short starts for the DSL Jays - 16 2/3 IP, 24 Ks, 2 BBs.  impressive for someone I don't think I've ever heard of.

Davis is a 26yr old with a .359babip giving him a good but not great 133wrc+ in AA. Pruitt is a 27yr old with an 81wrc+ in AAA.

These are not guys we should be thinking about giving a shot to in MLB, imo.

Fields, not Pruitt, I mean.

Pannone pitching for NH tonight.

Age isn't everything at times. Fields got a late start to his career and is young as a baseball player. Davis is a late bloomer that has potential as a fourth OFer... not unlike Jose Martinez in St. Louis... Max Muncy in LA... smart teams identify these... teams like the Jay's bury them. Angel Perdomo is another guy that should not be in A ball. He's pitched well the last two years and is a minor league FA unless added to the 40 man roster in the fall. They should be giving him a shot in AA and/or moving to the pen if they don't see starter potential by now to see if the FB jumps even higher in small stunts. Romano should be in AAA. Murphy in AA... both guys are Rule 5 decisions this year. Roster management throughout the system is one gap I see with this front office... I could nitpick some hitters, too.

I personally would like to see what Romano and his fastball/slider commoner can do out of the pen. Thus far in AA his splits against lefties and righties are fairly pronounced, as his whip is twice as high against lefties.

Tommy Pham had all of 2 PA's in the majors with the Cards until his 10th year in the organisation. That glacial.

So 3 guys who fit the older guy doing 'wow' stuff.  One LH, 2 RH.  All with AA experience so close enough for a call up.  I expect the Jays to watch them and require a full season of this, with a shot at a September call up for Bergen as Lefties are always needed, before giving all 3 a shot in spring to impress.  Their rope is short so they need to work on upping those K's.

I would like to see faster movement this year as the rebuild picks up - in addition to Borucki I'd like to see SRF & Pannone get some starts, Shafer/Fisk/Bergen etc. get their feet wet in the BP and some outfielders also - most may flounder but you may find a nugget or 2 for next year and really I don't care if the jays win total is 79 or 69 - I'd rather start preparing for the future.

Angel Perdomo is another guy that should not be in A ball. He's pitched well the last two years and is a minor league FA unless added to the 40 man roster in the fall.

In 2017 he had a somewhat ok 7.8K/9 but walked a whopping 5.14 per 9. He has a history of striking out a lot of people and walking a lot people, though in 2017 he struck out less and walked more. So am I missing something here in the 2017 performance? This inability to find the strike zone may not be the only reason he wasn't ignored as a rule 5, but I bet it's one of them. This would also be the reason he's started the season in high A again, and why he hasn't been promoted yet. 2018 is his best season for years, and probably ever, so it is possible they want to see a bigger sample size before promoting him. Contrast him with Romano who has been good for much longer, and clearly good in 2017; he has been promoted.

That said, it can't be long before Perdomo forces a promotion, and if he keeps it up the rule 5 decision will be pretty easy. I am sure Romano will be protected, and was a little nervous about him last time around.

I have no idea why people treat the minors like a race. Aside from the rare "holding players back for service time" thing, the Jays have vastly more information on their players than we do. Saying "this player should be promoted" makes no sense because we don't have very much information. The organization might want someone to work on an off-speed pitch, to work on walking more, to work on fielding etc...They have a much bigger incentive than we do that their prospects work out and spend lots of money trying to develop them. They aren't holding people back because they feel like it or they don't know what's happening.

what the org most clearly has is a philosophy, an approach to development that includes promotions based on certain metrics, the input of managers of other minor league leaders, etc.  It is entirely fair to fault them for being too slow with some players.  Other orgs, including this one under AA, could be faulted for overly-aggressive promotions.  If we can't critique that philosophy, by extension we shouldn't really be critiquing their drafting resume, FA signings, playing time - anything we fans like to discuss- since the org has more information on everything than we do. 

I absolutely agree with Marc Hulet that Perdomo should be promoted.  This is a kid with 156 Ks in 127 IP in Lansing, 2016.  I don't mind how slowly he's been promoted - IFAs take a different path, and he had just over 150 IPs in his first four years in the org.  last year he had 9 fewer starts than 2016 due to injuries, and this year he seems to be dealing with his control issues - his BB% is down to 7.8%.  He's a young 24 and is 6ft 6 - all variables that have doubtless slowed his promotion, but with him repeating in high A and warranting protection on the 40 man this offseason, now is indeed the time to promote the guy.  the knock on Perdomo has always been his consistency and secondary pitches, but I'd rather risk moving him to the pen and not developing him as a starter than losing a potential legit bullpen lefty in the rule v, or wasting that lefty in the minors. 

even if it's just the optics of promoting a pitcher after a dominating start like his today.  that sort of reward has to be motivating to minor leaguers, just as letting a talented player stay at the same level, despite elite performances, may be demotivating.  I'm thinking Jonathan Davis or perhaps Dwight Smith in this case - a player who has legitimately done well in his two big league stints and seems to have nothing left to prove in Buffalo, even if his ceiling is low. 

"Saying "this player should be promoted" makes no sense because we don't have very much information. "



I always find this sentiment amusing, especially on a website dedicated to discussing exactly this.

Hey, when one's a management shill what do you expect? ;)

Yeltsin Gudino has been promoted to Dunedin while K Vicuna stays in Lansing. I don't know who is better. Gudino's K rate is V good and better than Vicuna's. Gudino has less ABs than Vicuna this year. 184 to 288. Maybe this move can be explained and agreed upon by da Boxes members.

Marc - don't we have our own Martinez/Muncy in Teoscar?


As for Romano/Davis - imo they aren't really demanding promotions with their performances, even though they're way too old for the level. and I'm not sure either of them has some hidden tool like martinez/muncy/teoscar's hidden power.

Perdomo's a bit different - he is clearly outperforming his level, and unlike those other guys he actually does have at least one mlb calibre weapon (his fastball)....and really his only real avenue to the bigs is probably in the bullpen...so I agree that he should be accelerated much more quickly.

In general though the whole system kinda feels all clogged up. this starts with the Deep Mediocrity of the mlb squad with a bench indistinguishable from the starting lineup and almost as big, down to the AAA team full of mlb age-ready legit or near legit prospects playing well, down to the elite eye poppers in AA, and down to older almost-prospects like nola/large being left to dominate single A when they could use a bigger challenge and the org could use a more useful lens to view their performance through (like we're now getting a much clearer picture of what Clemens is than we were in Lansing).

I always find this sentiment amusing, especially on a website dedicated to discussing exactly this.

You're here for amusement. Well, that's a relief.

I know I know - i'm so annoying pointing out that posters who had no problem ripping previous management decisions are suddenly on a Father Knows Best kick.

But Dad, I don’t *want* a crappy $45 Happ toy. I want a $210 Price toy. And a $150 Joey Bats toy. And an $80 Edwin toy. And an $85 Fowler toy. Daaaad!!!!!

thank you papa for getting me this nice $45 dollar bike I never need anything more!

And thanks for the $33 Morales toy that busted as soon as I took it out of the box. Too bad about that no return policy.

It wasn't busted, son. It just had one of 'em new-fangled slow-release batteries.  I think it's working now.

It does have a nice slow motion effect.

bpoz, I think Gudino got the nod over Vicuna given that he's almost exactly a full year older.