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MLB Draft 2016 Blue Jays - Day 3

The Rule 4 Draft concludes today with rounds 11-40. You can follow the draft right here.

Round 11, 342nd overall. LHP Travis Hosterman, Hagerty HS. 6-foot-2, 192 pounds. Born August 19, 1988.

BaseballAmerica filed this story on Hosterman last summer.

Round 12, 372nd overall. C Ridge Smith, Austin Peay. Bats Right, Throws Right. 5-foot-10, 190 pounds. Born April 26, 1995.

Round 13, 402nd overall. RHP Chris Lincoln, Rancho Verde HS. 6-foot-4, 175 pounds. Born January 2, 1998.

Round 14, 432nd overall. RHP Christopher Hall, Elon University. 6-foot-2, 215 pounds. Born January 27, 1994.

The Elon Pendulum has a story on Hall.

Twitter Reaction

@NathanRode Another @ElonBaseball pick! RHP Chris Hall sat low 90s this spring. Converted catcher. Heard reports up to mid 90s. #mlbdraft #BlueJays

Round 15, 462nd overall. RHP John Winckowski, Estero HS. 6-foot-3, 185 pounds. Born June 28, 1998.

Round 16, 492nd overall. RHP Dominic Taccolini, Arkansas. 6-foot-3, 215 pounds. Born September 28, 1994.

Round 17, 522nd overall. OF Clayton Keyes, St. Mary's HS, Ontario. Bats Right, Throws Right. 6-foot-0, 215 pounds. Born January 1, 1999.

CanadianBaseballNetwork.com unlocks the story on Keyes.

Round 18, 552nd overall. 3B Bradley Jones, College of Charleston. Bats Right, Throws Right. 6-foot-2, 200 pounds. Born June 12, 1995.

Round 19, 582nd overall, LHP Spencer Van Scoyoc, Jefferson HS. 6-foot-3, 180 pounds. Born October 4, 1997.

Scouting Report from MLB.com...

Spencer Van Scoyoc’s grandfather is a member of the Iowa High School Baseball Coaches Association Hall of Fame and his father pitched three years in the Yankees farm system. The youngest Van Scoyoc has pretty arm action and his fastball velocity varies from 83-90 mph. He has a good changeup and scouts like his 6-foot-4, 195-pound frame. He’s committed to Arizona State. Video here.

The Cedar Rapids Gazette gets reaction from Van Scoyoc on his selection.

Twitter Reaction

‏@NathanRode Really, really like LHP Spencer Van Scoyoc (IA). High 80s fastball, but can really spin the CB. Has flashed low 90s. #mlbdraft #BlueJays

Round 20, 612nd overall. RHP Angel Alicea, Alabama State University. 6-foot-1, 200 pounds. Born August 29, 1994.

Round 21, 642nd overall. RHP Mitch McKown, Seminole State College. 6-foot-4, 195 pounds. Born May 21, 1996.

Twitter Reaction/Account Bio
Mitch Mckown @MckownMitch

RHP in the Toronto Blue Jays Organization

Oviedo,Fl

Round 22, 672nd overall. RHP Connor Eller, Ouachita Baptist University, 6-foot-2, 195 pounds. Born January 23, 1994.

Round 23, 702nd overall. CF Dom Abbadessa, Huntington Beach HS. Bats Right, Throws Right. 5-foot-9, 175 pounds. Born December 8, 1997.

Round 24, 732nd overall. RHP Mike Ellenbest, Saginaw Valley State University. 6-foot-4, 205. Born August 20, 1994.

Round 25, 762nd overall. RHP Casey Legumina, Basha HS. 6-foot-1, 185 pounds. Born June 19, 1997.

Twitter Reaction

@casey_legumina4

Blessed to be given the opportunity to play for The Toronto Blue Jays! Thanks you everyone for the support

Video here.

Round 26, 792nd overall. RHP Ben Anderson, Shenendehowa HS. 6-foot-4, 175 pounds. Born May 2, 1998.

Twitter Reaction

@sec2baseball Ian Anderson's twin brother Ben Anderson (also on Shen team) has just been drafted in the 26th round of the MLB draft by the Blue Jays

‏@hudsonbelinsky #BlueJays just took Ian Anderson's twin brother, Ben Anderson. Binghamton commit. Mid- to upper-80s fastball. Projectable build. #mlbdraft

Note - RHP Ian Anderson was the third overall pick by Atlanta in this year's draft.

Round 27, 822nd overall. C Ryan Gold, Carolina Forest HS. Bats Left, Throws Right. 5-foot-11, 180 pounds. Born October 10, 1997.

MyrtleBeachOnline.com strikes up a story right here.

Round 28, 852nd overall. OF Blake Ebo, Trenton Catholic Academy. Bats Right, Throws Right. 6-foot-5, 200 pounds. Born May 23, 1998.

Twitter Reaction

@hudsonbelinsky

#BlueJays 28th rder Blake Ebo has + raw power and athleticism. Wasn't on my radar. Can't uncover them all, but I'll keep trying. #mlbdraft

Round 29, 882nd overall. RHP Andrew Deramo. Central Florida. 6-foot-6, 210 pounds. Born May 26, 1995.

Round 30, 912nd overall. LHP Jake Fishman, Union College. 6-foot-3, 195 pounds. Born February 8, 1995.

Twitter Reaction

@theSammySeegs Congrats to @UnionAthletics LHP Jake Fishman getting selected by the Blue Jays in the @MLBDraft! 1st draftee in Union history!

@hudsonbelinsky#BlueJays 30th rounder Jake Fishman is very intriguing. Deceptive lefty with insane numbers.

Round 31, 942nd overall. OF Marcus Still, Scottsdale CC. Bats Right, Throws Right. 5-foot-9, 175 pounds. Born June 23, 1996.

Round 32, 972nd overall. 1B David Jacob, Quincy. 6-foot-4, 225 pounds. Born June 19, 1995.

Round 33, 1002nd overall. RHP Brayden Bouchey, Louisiana Monroe. 6-foot-6, 212 pounds. Born September 20, 1995.

CanadianBaseballNetwork.com has some background on the White Rock, BC native.

Round 34, 1032nd overall. C Shea Langeliers, Keller HS. 6-foot-0, 190 pounds. Born November 18, 1997.

Round 35, 1062nd overall. RHP Jared Carkuff, Austin Peay State. 6-foot-4, 160 pounds. Born August 25, 1993.

‏@Aallison25

Jared Carkuff becomes the fourth Gov to be drafted today. He heard the news after playing 18-holes of golf.

Linked story says he will report to the Jays.

Round 36, 1092nd overall. C Dustin Skelton, Magnolia Heights HS. 5-foot-11, 190 pounds. Born July 31, 1997.

Round 37, 1122nd overall. LHP Luke Gillingham, Navy. 6-foot-3, 200 pounds. Born March 4, 1994.

Scouting Report from FanGraphs.com...

Navy left-hander Luke Gillingham opposed Jax Friday night and turned in a masterful performance, striking out 13 Falcons in seven innings. He never got above 86 mph and only scrapes the high-80s on warmer days, but he wins by changing eye levels with plus fastball command. He also mixes in a sweepy hook in the low-70s as well as a decent changeup to keep hitters off balance. Normally you don’t consider a guy who can’t break 90 as a draft follow, but he’s a strikeout machine, whiffing 111 batters and walking 14 in 83.1 innings last year. In two starts this year, he’s tallied 21 strikeouts and just one walk in 13 frames. Even though you can’t project his stuff beyond average, his aptitude for pitching is so exceptional that, if he can add a couple of ticks through the right training program, then you have something. Gillingham is more than a cheap senior sign.

Round 38, 1152nd overall. LHP Alex Segal, Chaparral Arizona. 6-foot-4, 185 pounds. Born March 18, 1998.

Round 39, 1182nd overall. OF Chavez Young. Baptist Christian Academy. Bats Switch, Throws Right. 5-foot-11, 185 pounds. Born August 8, 1997.

Round 40, 1212nd overall. RHP Carter Loewen, Yale Secondary School, Abbotsford BC. 6-foot-4, 200 pounds. Born September 28, 1998.

CanadianBaseballNetwork has a story on Loewen.

Posted by #2JBrumfield on Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 02:12 PM EDT.

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jerjapan - Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 02:19 PM EDT (#324589) #

Already seeing the tough sign picks on day 3 - Travis Hosterman at 11th has a commitment to central Florida.

The baseball draft report has this to say about 12th round and awesomely named catcher Ridge Smith: " I’m not sure Ridge Smith is a catcher over the long haul, but he’s got the athleticism to give it a go as a pro. Failing that, he could still put that athleticism (and above-average speed) to good use at either third or an outfield spot."

6 ft 4 HS righty Chris Lincoln is 13th, another guy with a commitment to college - Santa Barbara in this case.

Rest of the top 20 featuring lots of pitching and a few position players, although unless you think Bichette can stick at SS, there's isn't a single SS yet.

Sorry for the double post - didn't see the new thread up!

scottt - Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 04:38 PM EDT (#324616) #

Most of those are lottery picks.

They'll probably keep looking for SS in the Dominican leagues.

finch - Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 05:15 PM EDT (#324620) #

It will be interesting to see the number of picks the Jays accumulate next year with the QOs for Bautista, Encarnacion, and Dickey. And potentially for Saunders and Cecil although Cecil probably not so much any more. I'm kind of meh about out first round pick. Love the upside with the players selected round 10 and after.

jerjapan - Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 06:41 PM EDT (#324624) #

Scottt, I think you are right, they do seem to be prioritizing international FAs for SS - with a fair amount of success. do you have any sense of which guys are true lottery picks - I take that to mean unlikely to sign - vs. late round HS picks?

Finch, why are you down on Zeuch? I'm not UP on him per se, but he seems like a solid pick for the spot. I agree with you that some of the later picks look promising from an upside POV - any specific picks you like most?

Also agree with you that next year's draft could be strong for us - not sure how the draft class compares to others, but as of right now, I'd figure we make 4 QOs - EE and Bautista are guarantees, Saunders for sure if he doesn't get injured / stop raking, and Dickey as a probable.

scottt - Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 07:31 PM EDT (#324630) #

Zeuch should be a starter, but if it doesn't work, he should be at least a decent reliever with a high 90 fastball.
The key thing is that he has access to a wide variety of pitches all with different speeds.

That seems like a fair pick to me.

There is no way Cecil gets a QO. He would have to be unhittable the rest of the year.
I don't think Dickey will get one either. Jimenez should get a call up and compete for the backup job.
That leaves some money to retool the offense and the bullpen.

ComebyDeanChance - Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 07:49 PM EDT (#324632) #

I think we may see deadline deals rather than QO's for some some of the players. Bautista and Encarnacion would no doubt be pleased to waive their ten/five rights to get away from a QO. That may make more sense for Toronto is it can help them partly replenish part the upper minors. Dickey is another one I could see being traded rather than saddled with a QO which isn''t likely to net them a pick. And nobody is going to pay QO money to Cecil to play next year or surrender a draft pick for him. That's off the charts.

ComebyDeanChance - Saturday, June 11 2016 @ 07:50 PM EDT (#324633) #

Yikes. I posted the above in the wrong thread.

aarne13 - Sunday, June 12 2016 @ 01:31 AM EDT (#324638) #

Bo Bichette to sign:
Blue Jays in agreement with 2nd-rdr. (66th overall) Bo Bichette on over-slot $1.1M bonus. Slot for 66th pick is $978.6K. @chriscotillo

Cavan Biggio signs for $300K

jerjapan - Sunday, June 12 2016 @ 11:31 AM EDT (#324645) #

bluebird banter has their awesome signing table up.

http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2016/6/12/11849232/2016-draft-signing-table

they have Canadian Clayton Keyes down as not signing, not sure of their source on that, he is reportedly still deciding according to his hometown paper.

http://calgaryherald.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays-select-calgary-product-clayton-keyes-in-17th-round-of-mlb-draft

6 ft 4 HS lefty Spencer Van Scoyoc, who was hitting 92 in may, sounded disappointed to be drafted so late, but also left the door opening to signing for the right amount.

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/blogs/diamonds-and-ice-by-jeff-johnson/cedar-rapids-jeffersons-spencer-van-scoyoc-drafted-by-mlbs-toronto-blue-jays-20160611

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 12:18 AM EDT (#324709) #

So how many of these new picks currently slots top 10 in our "gutted" system?

scottt - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 08:09 AM EDT (#324713) #

That's a though question. Did Sanchez and Syndergaard shot to top 10 right away or after doing well in short season?

Zeuch looks like a fair pick.
Woodman, Bichette, Palacios, Biggio,Jackson, Daniels and I think Ravel will sign.
Van Scoyuc, Hall and Wheatherly are upside guys who could sign if they find enough money.

SK in NJ - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 08:29 AM EDT (#324715) #

Sickels' top 20 prospects for the Jays after the 2010 season had McGuire at 3, Wojciechowski at 5, Sanchez at 7, and Syndergaard just outside the top 10 at 12.

BA's top 10 prospects for the Jays after the 2010 season had McGuire at 2, Wojciechowski at 6, and Sanchez at 9.

Considering the lack of pro data for those guys at the time, the rankings seem pretty arbitrary. Could have been due to a weaker farm system at the time, or any number of other factors. Ranking prospects, especially ones just out of HS, is not easy.

Given the team's dearth of prospects in the higher levels in the present day farm system, I could see a few of the new draftees jump up to the top 10 depending on who is making the list. I'm guessing Zeuch will almost certainly be there (top 10), possibly Bichette as well. Whether that means anything at the end of the day is debatable. As the above lists showed, McGuire was ranked as a top 2-3 prospect in the system while Syndergaard wasn't even top 10 right after both were drafted. Player development will be huge. Let's see if Shapiro's emphasis on that (nutrition, mental health, etc, etc) makes a difference.

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 08:40 AM EDT (#324718) #

"Everything is based on experiences,” Atkins said in an interview Sunday. “We tried to balance what we’ve done well here, and then what we can add to it and try to learn from things we’ve done, our success in the past and things we could have done better in the past. Fortunately, you’re able to do that with the way data is held and stored these days. Really, it was, at each juncture, about taking the best player, and we felt like after the board was built we had already factored for diversifying a portfolio or diversifying our risk. At each pick it was about taking the highest guy on the board.”

Zeuch, the 6-7 giant from the University of Pittsburgh, in some ways exemplifies the balance the Blue Jays tried to strike in this draft. At only 20, he still has upside and room to develop but with three years of college under his belt, he is also much more of a known commodity than a typical high-schooler.

The Blue Jays weren’t specifically looking for that combination with the 21st overall pick, but it added to their interest.

“I couldn’t be more excited,” said Atkins. “Power, durability, love the delivery, love the athleticism, love the fact that his dad is a former professional baseball player, extremely open-minded, accountable with development and upside. We didn’t think he’d get to us, very glad he did.”

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As to letting the jays scouts do their thing, it doesn’t sound like the new guys took a hands off approach to this draft at all. And it sure sounds like Risk Management was a priority in this draft.

85bluejay - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 09:42 AM EDT (#324720) #

It rarely matters what FO say about the draft - it's usually the same pablum - took the best player available, didn't think player X would get to us, very happy with draft, etc. - the proof will be in the pudding in a few years & development is such a key - It is fun to speculate though.

I remember that in 2010, with 4 picks in the top 40, the risky gambles (Sanchez, SynderGaard) paid off, while the safer picks (McGuire,Wojo) did not.

Beyonder - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 09:52 AM EDT (#324721) #

FWIW, Keith Law describes the Jays' draft as his "least favourite" among the 30 teams given the picks and pool available. He doesn't like Zeuch's arm slot, or his lack of secondary stuff. Woodsman he describes as " a four-tool player, minus the one that matters -- the hit tool -- having led the Cape Cod League in strikeouts last summer and continuing to swing and miss all spring against better quality pitching". He is somewhat high on Bichette. He thinks Biggio is likely an org guy. Daniels he describes as a "strong two-sport athlete who had an awful swing, sporting no load, no trigger and no weight transfer whatsoever. He's an average runner who'll need a swing makeover to hit for any kind of power, and maybe to hit at all".

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 09:53 AM EDT (#324722) #

nobody is forcing them to being up "Diversifying Risk" every time they talk about adding talent. That's their choice to continually prioritize that concept, and imo it's worth noticing.

Also worth noting the list of things he likes about our 1st rounder is heavy on intangibles, light on tools.

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 10:16 AM EDT (#324725) #

I hate giving any credence to Keith, but in my admittedly limited look ao far i'm having a real hard time finding much to hold on to and dream on in this draft class so far.

anyone have a couple guys who they think have a tools profile that sounds better than their draft position?

SK in NJ - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 10:21 AM EDT (#324726) #

I didn't have an opinion on the draft one way or another, but Keith Law hating it makes me optimistic about it.

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 10:30 AM EDT (#324727) #

"BA's top 10 prospects for the Jays after the 2010 season had McGuire at 2, Wojciechowski at 6, and Sanchez at 9."

Yup, BA had us as the 4th best system in baseball after 2010, and even with that elite system 3 2010 draftees cracked the top 10.

Since our system is apparently gutted at the moment, you'd hope that a bunch of this year's draftees should crack the list.

Mike Green - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 10:52 AM EDT (#324728) #

It seemed to me to be a very weak draft class.

I like Woodman somewhat more than the consensus. I see him as having a reasonable chance (maybe 20-25%) to be a big-bat right-fielder. Obviously, he's got to develop better contact skills but his poor Cape Cod League showing worries me less than for others because it looks to me like the power spike isn't purely metal bat driven.

hypobole - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 10:58 AM EDT (#324729) #

So who've turned out to be the best draft picks signed (so Kris Bryant/Aaron Nola don't count) during AA's tenure?

For guys who've played in the majors, my Top 10.

Sanchez/Syndergaard at the top, Stroman behind them.

Pillar the best position player. Still hope for Pompey.

Norris may be the best overslot based on potential, Dyson/ DeSclafani based on results.

Boyd and Graveman join Pillar in the "who saw that coming?" massive over-achievement club.

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 11:44 AM EDT (#324731) #

Interesting question.

Without editorializing, just using my avg war pace calculator....

(obv just draftees, no IFAs)

1. SP Syndergaard (23): 36gs, 5.0awar/32gs
2. CF Pillar (27): 1119pa, 4.5war/650pa
3. SP Stroman (25): 37gs, 4.0war/32gs
4. SP Sanchez (23): 24gs, 3.3war/32gs
5. CF Pompey (23): 146pa, 2.5war/650pa

6. SP Desclafani (26): 37gs, 1.8war/32gs
7. SP Nicolino (24): 21gs, 1.3war/32gs
8. SP Norris (23): 14gs, 1.3war/32gs
9. RP Dyson (28): 158.0ip, 1.1war/65ip
10. SP Graveman (25): 33gs, 0.8war/32gs

But you may prefer prospects like Alford, Hoffman, Tellez, Greene, SRF, Harris, Pentecost to some of the guys on that list.

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 12:04 PM EDT (#324732) #

Chris Mitchell on fangraphs did his katoh projections on all the college picks.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-the-college-players-taken-on-day-one-of-the-draft/

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-the-college-players-taken-on-day-two-of-the-draft/

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-the-college-players-taken-on-day-three-of-the-draft/

WAR projection thru age 27 - remembering prospect risk makes these median projections very low - anything over 2 is great, anything over 1 is good.

1.Woodman 0.9
2.Jackson 0.6
3.Biggio 0.5
4.Zeuch 0.3
5.Taccolini 0.2
6.Snead 0.0
7.Deramo 0.0

jerjapan - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 02:36 PM EDT (#324742) #

Your list is my list as well Hypobole, and in that order. Harris, Hoffman and Tellez could easily join them - Harris was a surprise left on the board pick, Hoffman I liked for the calculated risk re: his injury, and I always love the late round steals like Tellez.

Ian Parmley is a non-prospect - 26 in AA - that I talked about in the minor league thread, but I love the thought of a punted pick - $5,000 bonus - making it to the bigs. I also like 35th rounder Danny Barnes to make the big league pen.

Deck McGuire has to be the worst pick?

As for top minor league prospects, the top 4 draftees should be on the list - Zach Jackson was one of my favourite picks.

Mike Green - why are you down on this draft class? Not that I think it was stellar by any means - solid perhaps?

Mike Green - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 03:19 PM EDT (#324743) #

Jerjapan, I'm most comfortable with college hitters who can obviously hit- good swings and low K rates, ideally with some other positive (pop like Frank Thomas or other skills like Dustin Pedroia). There seemed to be very few of those players in the draft.

I'm much less comfortable with pitcher evaluation. A.J. Puk might be the closest thing to Randy Johnson we have seen if he finds his control before his back acts up. I wasn't excited about most of the other pitchers I saw being selected early. But what do I know?

hypobole - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 03:30 PM EDT (#324744) #

To me the biggest "steal" (as in stealing money out of some poor kids pocket), was Pillar's $1,000 signing bonus in 2011.

Matt Boyd, despite his 6th round status, only got $75,000, though still far better than 8th rounder Graveman's $5000. And to be fair, the Jays didn't exactly pocket all the savings from Graveman and Boyd - it paid a good chunk of Rowdy's $850,000 bonus.

As for draft philosophy, I've never seen Pillar's scouting report, but it seems he could hit and play defense. Not sure why we don't draft more kids like that instead of 4 tool guys who have little or no hit tool.

Beyonder - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 03:44 PM EDT (#324745) #

It is worth keeping in mind that the reason we grabbed Tellez as a 'late round steal' was because he fell due to bonus demands -- not because we found some diamond in the rough. IIRC he was projected to be a second rounder. We were in a position to satisfy Tellez's bonus demands only because we sought out bargain basement players in rounds 2 through 10 in a failed effort to sign Bickford. When Bickford went back to college we were left with about 1.6 million bucks worth of slot room, and essentially threw it at Tellez (850G) and Brentz (700G) because there was no on else to give it to.

He may turn out to be a great player, but he is hardly a testament to the former regime's drafting ability.

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 03:53 PM EDT (#324746) #

isn't them drafting those types late as a plan B if unable to sign other guys to desirable amounts exactly the kind of clever draft strategy that deserves praise?

ComebyDeanChance - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 03:56 PM EDT (#324747) #

I didn't have an opinion on the draft one way or another, but Keith Law hating it makes me optimistic about it.

I would only offer one small change to that sentence by saying 'more optimistic about it'. I recall when Syndergaard was ridiculed by Law as an overdraft. Even later on, Law claimed that Syndergaard's only pitching quality was arm strength. I don't think we got any Syndergaard's, but Keith Law not liking the draft doesn't dismay me at all.

Beyonder - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 04:24 PM EDT (#324748) #

Praise is probably be a bit much. Executing your plan "A" might deserve praise. But when you come out of a draft having failed to sign your first rounder, and then in the subsequent nine rounds you overdraft players who will sign for well-below slot, it is hard for me to see Tellez and Brentz as anything other than consolation prizes.

It turns out there were at least couple of steals in rounds 2-10 that year (Graveman, Boyd; even Girodo) -- but I think it is fair to expect that the team would have done better if they had simply drafted the best player available. We'll never know.

codyla - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 04:33 PM EDT (#324749) #

I try not to get too excited or disappointed about the draft. One thing we all should know by now is that there is really never any sure things about the draft. Most of us got excited about Travis Snider, most of us never expected much from Syndergaard on draft day, etc. I think this front office deserves more of a chance than we're giving them. I guess my only point is, we should know by now not to judge a draft less than a week after its completion. And should definitely not judge it on Keith Law's opinion.

uglyone - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 05:01 PM EDT (#324751) #

i dunno i could argue that his drafts were a master class in how to avoid putting all your eggs in one first round basket.

It's pretty clear that walking away from a first rounder was always a ready option for him heading into any draft.

85bluejay - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 05:18 PM EDT (#324752) #

While I was initially disappointed when Breede didn't sign in 2011, by the time Bickford took a pass in 2013, I was OK with the strategy of drafting the tough signs you like while knowing you recoup the pick the next year if the player didn't sign - As has been pointed out the jays did pretty well with that strategy - and AA always had other well regarded prospects he could throw the money at.

What a particular draft guru (eg. Law) says about our draft doesn't bother me, but I haven't seen any reviews where the Jays draft was considered one of the better drafts - most of the reviews have been lukewarm.

jerjapan - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 05:50 PM EDT (#324756) #

IMO, AA was a ninja when it came to drafting strategy - I know that past the first few picks, it's generally the scouting director and his team, but the GM plays a role in the overall approach - and I still think Tellez was a steal - high quality risk management and aggressive pursuit of talent. Not signing all the top picks just seemed to be part of the strategy and I never took it as a loss the way some people did.

I will say that the Brian Parker drafts have been less impressive than the Andrew Tinnish ones. No real picks scream 'steal' this year and a bunch of them are overdrafts if you care about pre-draft prospect rankings. Then again, this team has always done that, and we've done well going off the radar.

Agreed with 85 that this is not a widely praised draft - a lot of B grades thrown around. Nobody really looks like a steal to me, unlike in previous years where the likes of Stroman, Tellez and even Pruitt were praised from the get go.

jerjapan - Monday, June 13 2016 @ 06:20 PM EDT (#324760) #

Keegan Matheson at Jay's Journal has the best coverage of our draft I've seen with write ups on every player drafted. The below is worth a listen - just over 7 minutes.

http://jaysjournal.com/2016/06/13/blue-jays-monday-morning-mailbag-mlb-draft-chat-video/

he mentions some later picks worth paying attention to - 17th rounder spencer keyes, 19th rounder spencer van scoyoc, 23rd round CF dominic abbadessa, 28th rounder blake ebo and 34th rounder Shea Langeliers.

uglyone - Wednesday, June 15 2016 @ 12:56 AM EDT (#324823) #

I've decided to dream on zach jackson.

may he sort out his control issues forthwith.

scottt - Wednesday, June 15 2016 @ 06:18 AM EDT (#324825) #

Weatherly has signed for $250K. His slot money was $175K.

I'm under the impression that Zeuch/Woodman are signing with some savings but the Jays are keeping it quiet to quell the demands from later slots draftees.

Van Scoyuc and Winckowski will sign if the Jays can find enough money.

Smaj - Wednesday, June 15 2016 @ 09:45 PM EDT (#324861) #

I like three of the first four picks in this draft. Zeuch is only 20 years old with a large frame to add more muscle & power as a pro. I envision a power pitcher down the road. Bichette has power & athleticism with a passion for the game (as per some scouting reports) & will have time to develop. Zach Jackson has plus pitch potential & I fully anticipate more consistency with his delivery as a pro leading to much improved/needed control. Be interesting to see if the Jays use Jackson as a starter initially. Woodman struggles with contact far too often for my liking. Let's hope the Jays saw a quick fix in his swing to improve his contact rates.

spud77 - Friday, June 17 2016 @ 02:22 PM EDT (#324970) #

Zeuch has signed according to his twitter account.

spud77 - Friday, June 17 2016 @ 04:03 PM EDT (#324974) #

Hosterman (11th round) has also signed (according to his twitter - pic included)

PeterG - Friday, June 17 2016 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#324979) #

Zach Jackson not among the listed signees though it was reported earlier that he had agreed to sign. Anyone have more info on this?

scottt - Friday, June 17 2016 @ 06:45 PM EDT (#324992) #

In the original interview, he said he agreed to a ballpark figure with the Jays before they drafted him.
Would be pretty scummy to change his mind now.

PeterG - Friday, June 17 2016 @ 06:55 PM EDT (#324993) #

That's a protected pick. If he does that, they won't sign him

scottt - Saturday, June 18 2016 @ 12:18 PM EDT (#325023) #

So the top 10 has signed--or will sign in the case of Jackson.
No info on Kirby Snead at 11.
Hosterman and Smith have signed.
No info on Lincoln at 14.
Hall has signed along with Alicea, McKown, Eller, Ellenbest, Gold (an other catcher) Deramo, Fishman, Bouchey etc...

Basically most of the later rounds college players have signed.

I think there is about 100k left to try to sign another high school player like Van Scojuk, Winckowsky, Legumina, or Blake Ebo.

spud77 - Saturday, June 18 2016 @ 12:21 PM EDT (#325025) #

Snead is in the college world series; he'll sign when it's over.

PeterG - Saturday, June 18 2016 @ 07:25 PM EDT (#325041) #

Doesn't Jackson have a commitment to play for team USA this summer? To answer my own previous question, perhaps that is why there has been no official signing announcement. I agree that there still might be space for another signing as I don't expect Snead to get anywhere near slot. It is also possible that someone with a 100K offer on the table, may accept when he realizes it won't go any higher.

John Northey - Saturday, June 18 2016 @ 10:41 PM EDT (#325048) #

Checking good ol' Bluebird banter's signing list the only guys of note left who haven't signed are...
Kirby Snead () - 10th round - ranked 441, Jr
Clayton Keyes (OF) - 17th round - ranked 388, listed as not signing
Spencer Van Scoyuc (LHP) - 19th round - ranked 197 (only one 1 listing) says 'depends on bonus'
Chavez Young (CF) - 39th round - ranked 244

All 3 post top 10 rounds are coming out of high school so all have options other than pro ball. I suspect one will sign for near $200k and that'll be it.

So in the end the Jays only drafted 7 guys who were ranked higher than the Jays drafted them. Not too many. But in the end if they get 2+ regulars/starting pitchers out of the batch they are ahead of the game.

PeterG - Tuesday, June 21 2016 @ 07:54 PM EDT (#325130) #

Gators eliminated. Snead should sign soon.

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