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You have made your 2014 prediction, including the Blue Jays. You have read the Blue Jay round table. Now it is your turn to go on the record and tell us what will happen in 2014.

How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Get it on the record now so you can say "I told you so".

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John Northey - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 10:30 AM EDT (#283959) #
Well, I tend to be an optimist so what the heck...
  • How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?
    93 games. Most stuff goes right thanks to surprisingly good health - the rotation is among the best around as Hutchison acts like Hentgen back in '93 (he won 19 in his first full ML season), McGowan is comeback player of the year with 15+ wins, Dickey & Buehrle both get in the 15 win range with 110+ ERA+'s.  By some miracle Lawrie, Bautista, Rasmus all play 140 games.

  • What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?
    Lawrie stays healthy (for him) and makes the Jays seriously consider a long term contract. Goins is great with the glove, not so great with the bat and mid-season the Jays make a trade for a full-time 2B while Goins moves into the old John McDonald role of backing up 2B/SS with the odd game at 3B.  Gibbons surprises with this team and gets serious Manager of the Year consideration

  • Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?
    McGowan & Hutchison shock MLB by being both healthy & effective. Lind disappoints and gets replaced at some point.

  • Get it on the record now so you can say "I told you so".
    Sanchez up in August to replace an injured Morrow and has a great 10 start run, making the 2015 rotation a real challenge (in a good way) for the Jays.

Lets see someone be more optimistic than that :)

Chuck - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 10:57 AM EDT (#283960) #
Lets see someone be more optimistic than that :)

Mylegacy is still out there. This could be there year that Travis Snider wins the first of his many MVP awards.

AWeb - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 10:58 AM EDT (#283961) #

How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

I predicted 80, because the starting pitching is likely to be an ongoing experiment and the depth on this team everywhere but the bullpen is terrible. I assume the injuries will continue to some extent, making the lack of depth a problem. Is there a worse "2nd starting lineup" team than this in the majors (who is the second middle infield backup???)? I actually think the rotation depth is fine, it just happens to be mostly young. I'd rather have young starting depth than replacement veteran depth. 80 wins is also something close to a worst-case scenario for the franchise - hard to figure out what to do. Huge margin of error on my guess of 80 - wouldn't be surprised by 12 wins on either side.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins, due to a lack of competition, will fill the Manny Lee role I not so fondly recall. Defense + terrible hitting. Hopefully he doesn't become Arencibia part 2 (terrible player who absorbs hate from fanbase), and fades into the background.

Gibbons, I guess, will get fired by AA at season's end.

Lawrie will be a borderline all-star, with above average hitting and defense.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Putting the great year line around all-star worthy+better than expected, I think Lawrie, Bautista, and (choose random 3 guys from bullpen) will have a great year. Encarnacion will disappoint (especially if he can't stop getting hit on the hands/wrist). It's hard to figure out what disapppointing even looks like for a lot of guys - most of the starting pitching, Cabrera, Goins, Lind,

finch - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 11:43 AM EDT (#283964) #

I predict the Jays will win 88 games this season, 3 games out of a wildcard birth. Brett Lawrie will have a breakout season with the bat. I could see him hitting .280 with an OPS of 890. Hit for power and making his first all-star game while winning a gold glove. Ryan Goins will be goins back to the minors after 6 weeks where in time, we will either see Stephen Drew sign a prorated 1-year deal or the call up of Andy Burns. Gibby will continue to manage the bullpen flawlessly but will have to deal with a lack of depth in the batting order, that's on AA.

Suprises: Santos, Lawrie, McGowen (Healthy all year).

Disappointments: Janssen, Cecil, Navarro & Lind.


GO JAYS GO! errrr GO VANCOUVER CANADIANS GO!

Mike Green - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 11:52 AM EDT (#283965) #

How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

84.  Better than league-average offence.  League average pitching.  Don't outperform Pythagoras.  Routine number of injuries, biting just enough to prevent them from getting a playoff spot.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins platoons with Maicer Izturis.  He hits a little better than expected, but is not a Gold Glover.  Second base is a weakness of the club.  John Gibbons is signed to a two year contract after the season because of  the "surprising success" of the club- this does not turn out well in the long run.  Brett Lawrie matures and is a fine player for many years beginning in 2014.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Lawrie and Hutchison have great years.  Jose Reyes disappoints due to lingering injuries.  Colby Rasmus ends up with a poorer slash line, but not by much thanks to increased power and more walks.  In the long run, the greatest disappointment will be management. 

Paul D - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 12:09 PM EDT (#283967) #
How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?\

91. The Jays will get surprisingly good starting pitching, as the minor injuries don't happen until there are capable reinforcements from the minors available.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins ends up in a platoon. He's the worst contributor to any playoff team. Gibbons gonna Gib, but he'll come around to shifting and platooning, and will excel at managing the pitching staff. Lawrie outperforms Machado on offence and isn't far behind him on defence.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Jose Bautista hits 62 HR. The bullpen as a whole will disappoint, but only relative to last year. They'll settle in as a solid bullpen.

Dave Till - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 12:19 PM EDT (#283968) #

How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

82. Because the Jays are better than some people think, but some things are going to go wrong. They always do.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins will be hitting .171 on May 1st, and will likely be sent back to Buffalo. Gibbons will stay on, unless AA is fired. Lawrie will miss 30 games due to injury, and show yet more signs of improvement in his hitting. And he'll also win a Gold Glove, if there is any justice at all. (Unless Gibbons tries him at second again.)

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

I'll go with Hutchison too for the great year. I don't know who will disappoint - maybe Santos. McGowan will probably become injured again. Lind is a perennial candidate to disappoint, though I think that beard will get him a few hits in April if he doesn't shave it off. (Pitchers will look at him, go WTF, and miss their spots.)

Intricated - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 12:20 PM EDT (#283969) #
I'll give it a go:

How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

88.  The team's health will be improved to a point where we don't have to debate the merits of the #10 vs. #11 in the starting pitching depth chart or the over/under in errors committed by an infield of Encarnacion/Kawasaki/Izturis/Sierra, but we can look forward to 20-25 games missing a piece from Bautista/Lawrie for trying too hard (to impress).  Ironically, the starting pitching will be top 10 with 25-30 starts, mostly of the Quality variety, from each of Dickey/Buehrle/Morrow/Hutchison (McGowan will run out of arms and/or gas, with Rogers/Redmond/kids picking up the slack), but the bullpen will be bottom 10 because they were good last year; relievers are like that, this is known.  Offence will be fine 1 through 7, with good platooning through the C/DH/1B positions, and regular rest for Cabrera/Reyes keeps them producing.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins won't hit enough, defence will slip enough that he'll lose his job.  Gibbons will get tossed from a game for taking too long to strut out to argue a call, get criticized by media and fans for anything and everything, but will be unaffecting.  Lawrie will hit well before and after missing time for running into a brick wall.. because it was there.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Disappointing year for: Happ (won't start again for the Jays, ends up traded for a bucket of balls or released); Loup/Cecil/Delabar/Janssen (injuries and ineffectiveness); Rasmus (BABIP and bad habit regression will lead to smaller free agent payout)

Great year for: Hutchison; Cabrera (generates 2 WAR in 120-130 games, sets up for another decent free agent contract); Jeffress (collects ML paycheck and service time); Rogers (not the pitcher) and their shareholders.

Jays, prove me wrong (or right).

Ryan Day - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 12:26 PM EDT (#283971) #
How many games will the Jays win? Why that number? 88-90 games. I'll be optimistic and say the team stays fairly healthy, and there's enough pitching on the farm - Stroman, Nolin, and Sanchez in the later half of the season - to fill in the gaps.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie? At this point, it looks like an Izturis resurrection is the only thing that could take Goins' job, and I don't have a lot of faith in that. He'll keep the 2b job for most of the season, play a bit of ss, and generally remind us of John McDonald: great to watch in the field, cringeworthy with a bat in his hand.

Lawrie will get off to a great start, but then miss two months after injuring himself with an excessively vigorous fist pump.

Unless the team gets historically bad, Gibbons will be here as long as Anthopoulos. Pete Walker will be the first to walk the plank if the pitching doesn't turn around.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint? I'm a big Hutchison fan, so I see good things happening. I also like Dickey's chances to rebound, and see a good healthy season from Melky. I have a bad feeling about Bautista & Lawrie - they'll be good when healthy, but won't be healthy nearly enough.
#2JBrumfield - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 01:04 PM EDT (#283972) #
How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

They'll improve by a whopping 1 win. 75 victories. Too much uncertainty in the roation after Dickey and Buehrle. Bullpen could be overused again.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins will be in a utility role by June, Gibby will be gone by June, Lawrie should have a better year than 2013 but not near the halcyon days of 2011.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Bautista should return to form. Morrow will disappoint. He won't fool me again after I sang his praises at this time last year.

My predictions were so far off the mark last year so there's hope I'm off the mark again this year. When the team feels it needs to make a major announcement that Pizza Nova is now a sponsor, that tells you all you need to know about how off the off-season was.
Parker - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 02:34 PM EDT (#283979) #
Alright, I've been universally critical of the Jays for some time now, so I might as well go on record here:

How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

76 wins, another fifth place. Despite improved production and depth at catcher, the offence doesn't improve as a whole. With a slight improvement in the starting rotation (Morrow and McGowan will both spend time on the DL, but hopefully someone like Redmond/Rogers/Stroman will improve the depth, plus no universal suckitude from Josh Johnson) the pitching takes a step forward, but not enough to be a real strength.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins will provide above-average (but not Gold Glove) defence, and be an absolute black hole with the bat. Maybe a 75 OPS+. Gibbons will continue to trot him out every day after Izturis also gets off to a terrible start. Despite this, Kawasaki and Getz don't get any significant ML time without injuries to both Izturis and Goins.

Anthopoulos sticks with Gibbons all season, but it is Gibbons' last as a manager, with any MLB team.

Lawrie misses a third of the season with various injuries. When healthy enough to play, he provides solid defence and slightly above league-average offense. The home run power he showed in his rookie season never really comes back, but he gets his share of doubles and tripes, and manages to put up an above-average OBP thanks to a decent batting average and a solid BB ratio.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Hutchinson finishes the season as the second-best pitcher in the rotation. Morrow is good for the half-season he's healthy. Moises Sierra puts up solid numbers as the right side of a DH platoon and part-time outfielder. Encarnacion and Bautista both begin their inevitable declines, Colby Rasmus loses his BABIP charm and puts up a 90 OPS+ with a ton of strikeouts and very few walks. Buehrle declines a little, Dickey declines a LOT. Cabrera bounces back a little from last year's disgraceful performance, but is still bad enough to be in the bottom five in WAR for left field regulars in the AL. Anthoupoulos is fired after another disappointing season, and the Jays hire yet another GM with zero track record of success.
uglyone - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 03:08 PM EDT (#283986) #
I'll rip off some unprepared projections...


Dickey 225ip, 3.50era
Buehrle 200ip, 3.90era
Hutchison 180ip, 4.00era
Morrow 160ip, 4.00era
Mcgowan 140ip, 4.25era
Stroman 50ip, 4.50era
Happ 50ip, 4.75era
Sanchez 25ip, 4.00era

Janssen 50ip, 3.00era
Santos 50ip, 3.50era
Cecil 70ip, 3.50era
Delabar 70ip, 3.75era
Loup 70ip, 3.75era
Redmond 70io, 4.00era
Rogers 30ip, 4.50era
Jeffress 30ip, 4.50era
Stilson 20ip, 4.00era
Jenkins 20ip, 4.50era


SS Reyes 130gms, .775ops
LF Cabrera 150gms, .825ops
RF Bautista 140gms, .900ops
DH Encarnacion 150gms, .900ops
1B Lind 120gms, .825ops
3B Lawrie 150gms, .775ops
CF Rasmus 150gms, .750ops
C Navarro 120gms, .725ops
2B Izturis 80gms, .675ops

Sierra 50gms, .750ops
Kratz 30gms, .700ops
Kawasaki 50gms, .625ops
Thole 30gms, .600ops
Goins 50gms, .525ops
Pillar 20gms, .700ops
Gose 20gms, .700ops


92 wins.

Playoffs.
85bluejay - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 03:38 PM EDT (#283993) #
I will say this - if the jays get 900ip from the starting 5, then they will have a very good chance to make the playoffs because that's a very good offense especially if they can upgrade 2nd early (Franklin) - that's a huge IP total to expect from this fragile staff.
Original Ryan - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 03:40 PM EDT (#283995) #
How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

79 wins. The team doesn't experience as many injuries this year and generally has better luck, but age will start to catch up with some of the key players.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins' struggles at the plate and he's sent to Buffalo in May. He's replaced on the roster with a pitcher.

Gibbons survives the year and comes back for 2015.

Lawrie is frustratingly inconsistent and injured.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Melky Cabrera rebounds nicely, but Mark Buehrle suddenly falls victim to the age bug. Dickey pitches okay, but doesn't regain his Cy Young form.

Gerry - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 04:26 PM EDT (#284002) #

I have two thoughts on the Jays season:

1. If the Jays are healthy they can challenge for a wild card playoff spot

2. I don't think the Jays can stay healthy

 

The Jays have too many players with extended injury histories, from Morrow to McGowan, from Bautista to Lawrie, and Reyes.

ISLAND BOY - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 05:48 PM EDT (#284015) #
-- 81 games. Like some people have said I don't think the Jays have the depth to crawl above .500 unless they stay remarkably injury free.

-- Ryan Goins will end up platooning with Izturis, when he's not playing shortstop in place of the fragile-hamstrung Reyes. Lawrie will have a breakout season offensively and continue his fine defense , albeit missing around 20-30 games to minor injuries. Gibbons lasts the season but walks the plank afterwards just to show that management is doing something.

-- surprises - Lawrie offensively, Hutchison and McGowan pitching. ( If McGowan lasts a month it will be a surprise ) Disappointments - Brandon Morrow starts great but then misses 2 months after injuring an ulnar collateral trapezoid twitcheroo muscle in his arm after trying to scratch a hard-to-reach place on his back.
greenfrog - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 06:29 PM EDT (#284018) #
How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

77 wins. The rotation isn't deep and strong enough. Sanchez and Stroman are promising but are a ways off, and shouldn't be expected to be significant contributors in 2014. As others have noted, the team lacks quality positional depth to cover the inevitable injuries. The team defense isn't good enough. The roster isn't particularly versatile. The RC concrete puts an already-brittle team at a further disadvantage. The team is largely relying on players who are past their prime.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

No idea. My expectations are low for Goins. I think he'll likely eventually get demoted or relegated to a backup/utility role. Compared to managers like Maddon and Showalter (and maybe Farrell), I think Gibbons is in over his head. In 2014, laid back and "old school" no longer trumps brainy, creative and proactive. I think Lawrie will be an average or somewhat above-average third baseman. He could eventually be a star, but I'm not feeling it yet.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

I think Sanchez will have a very good year in the minors, making him one of the game's very best starting pitching prospects. I'm hopeful that Santos will have a nice year out of the 'pen. If Bautista and EE stay healthy, they should have solid 3-4 WAR years.

I think Reyes will disappoint. His defense was already questionable before his ankle injury. I think that injury, however much Reyes and the Jays have downplayed it, is going to have a significant impact on his defense, his baserunning, and his health and durability.
Mike D - Monday, March 31 2014 @ 10:50 PM EDT (#284046) #
I went with 70 wins in the record prediction contest, because it's a particularly injury-prone team that has decided to make itself uniquely vulnerable to injuries.

The bench and AAA roster have been stripped down to nothing on the position player side, and it just makes no sense. At least not at $132 million.
rpriske - Tuesday, April 01 2014 @ 08:54 AM EDT (#284059) #

How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

78. Or less.

 

I don't understand the optimism. I think this looks like a very bad team.

 

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins will play at replacement level. Not good enough for a good team, but holding on with this team.

Gibbons will stay until AA gets fired. That may be before the season is up, but I doubt it. I have a feelign that neither will be around come 2015.

Lawrie will be the bright spot of the organization. I think by the end of the season he will be seen as the best player on the squad: Bautista who?

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Lawrie will have a great year... and maybe nobody else (though I don't expect Lind to crater like some do.)

As for disappoint, we already saw why I put Reyes on this list.The entrie rotation will continue to disappoint. I think even Bautista and Encarnacion will disappoint, but only compared to high expectations.

hypobole - Tuesday, April 01 2014 @ 12:45 PM EDT (#284070) #
How many games will the Jays win?
72 or 66.

72 win prediction - based on the current roster/depth/management. Best players for the most part will regress at least a bit (EE, Jose, Dickey) or have a chance at JJ-like implosion (Buehrle). The team is brittle and the training staff have shown me no signs of competence. Neither has the pitching coach. AA has done almost nothing to improve the team. This is the most likely outcome IMO.

66 wins prediction - The Jays will be well out of contention by the trade deadline. There should be a sell-off of assets and the start of a rebuild. AA has done it once, but those were JPR's guys, these are HIS guys and I think the odds are less than 50-50 he actually does it.

Goins- D will not disappoint, won't hit.
Gibbons-Will not be back next year.
Lawrie - one of the few positives this year.

Great year - No SP, some reliever that stays healthy. Lawrie. Melky.

Disappoint - AA, Dickey, Beuhrle. Reyes and Bautista due to health.

One final thought - at some point soon, maybe when they replace the turf with sod, MOVE THE FRIKKIN FENCES BACK! Give pitchers at least one reason to want to pitch here.
Eephus - Tuesday, April 01 2014 @ 12:58 PM EDT (#284073) #

How many games will the Jays win? Why that number?

If Reyes/Bautista/Lawrie/Edwin/Rasmus play 120+ games each, 85. If they don't, 75. The starting pitching could add or subtract 10 wins from either of those.

What will happen to Ryan Goins, John Gibbons or Brett Lawrie?

Goins will struggle to hit .200 but will keep the job unless somebody better comes along. Gibbons will survive the year unless the team completely craters again. Brett Lawrie stays off the DL for most of the year and hits .305 with 40+ doubles.

Who will have a great year, who will disappoint?

Lawrie, if healthy. Hutchison will be the second best starter by July. Rasmus will take a step back, Navarro will scuffle around .240 but keep his OBP over .300, unlike his predecessor.

John Northey - Tuesday, April 01 2014 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#284074) #
I suspect another sub 500 season and we'll see a lot of pressure on AA and Gibbons...heck, under 90 wins and the pressure will mount I'm sure. What they need to happen...
1) The team makes a serious playoff push
2) If they can't do #1 then need kids to come up in August and really get the hype going around them (Sanchez, Gose, Pillar, whoever)

This year could be a lot like 1998 - first half the Jays expected to be contenders but sucked (July 31st 2 games sub 500, 25 1/2 games out of first, 10 1/2 out of 2nd) then after putting in kids they boomed (34-18 rest of the way, just 1/2 a game behind Yankees over that stretch).  Sadly not a lot of position guys to bring up afaik.  Lets hope someone surprises.

electric carrot - Tuesday, April 01 2014 @ 02:37 PM EDT (#284082) #
Put me in the Polyanna Club but I think the Jays will do OK this year and surprise most.  The offense looks fantastic to me.  The starting five pitchers also look great.  The relief pitching looks good and the defense looks better than it was.  Everyone is saying the starting pitching depth is not good but I disagree.  I think Rogers, Redmond, Stroman as your top three options is actually a pretty great end of the rotation fill-in options. Then you've Sanchez who could enter the equation too in the 2nd half.  For me the big weakness is extra hands on the positional player front.  Seems we don't have much to work with there.  So injuries there will hurt this team more than most others. But of all the things you could be weak on that doesn't seem bad.

89 wins.

greenfrog - Tuesday, April 01 2014 @ 09:01 PM EDT (#284091) #
Crowdsourcing update from the 2014 record prediction thread:

# of predictions entered: 21
highest predicted # of Jays wins: 91
lowest predicted # of Jays wins: 67
average # of Jays wins predicted: 82.76
Jonny German - Thursday, April 03 2014 @ 08:05 AM EDT (#284161) #
I better get my prediction in before the next injury swings me back to feeling pessimistic. I think this team will go as far as its health takes it, potentially over 90 wins. To be more precise, I'll predict 92 wins if the following minimums are met:

400 games from Bautista, Encarnacion, and Reyes.
370 games from Cabrera, Lind, and Rasmus.
240 games from Lawrie and Navarro.
60 games from Dickey and Buerhle.
70 games from Hutchison, McGowan, and Morrow.
100 games from Janssen and Santos.
180 games from Cecil, Delabar, and Loup.

I'm guessing the least likely of these is the 70 games for the 3 less established starters.
Mike Green - Thursday, April 03 2014 @ 08:58 AM EDT (#284165) #
Right, Jonny.  If they get 30 starts from two of Hutchison, Morrow and McGowan, it'll probably be fine. That is a big if. 

I also think Lawrie is much more important to this club than Navarro.  It's quite possible that he is more important than Reyes. Whether he plays 110 games or 140 is a big deal. 

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