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The affiliates took three out of four Monday night. I got to witness the lone loss in person!


Buffalo 5 Gwinnett 4

Buffalo, NY The Herd scored first thanks to a throwing error at third base in the second inning. The Braves took a 2-1 lead in the third but Luis Jimenez doubled home the tying run half an inning later before Moises Sierra's fielder's choice gave the Bisons a 3-2 lead. Andy LaRoche knocked one out of the yard to start the sixth and Jim Negrych plated what turned out to be the winning run with a sacrifice fly in the eighth. The trio of Sierra, Negrych and Anthony Gose had two-hit performances. Gose and Negrych each heard ball four once while Sierra had a double. Mauro Gomez had a hit, a walk and a hit by pitch. LaRoche added a walk with his homer. Ryan Goins and Mike Nickeas both heard ball four once. Ryan Langerhans was 0-for-4 but helped throw out a runner at third from left field.

Todd Redmond (2-1) had a game WHIP of 1.00 thanks to five hits and one walk to limit the Braves to a couple of runs. He also struck out three batters. Mickey Storey worked a pair of scoreless innings, yielding just one hit while whiffing three. John Stilson had a shaky ninth with two runs on a hit and a walk before nailing it down for his second save.

Dunedin 6 Tampa 4


Dunedin, FL — The D-Jays won this one in spite of Brandon Morrow. The Yankees racked up three runs on five hits and a walk over two innings against the rehabbing righty. Morrow served up a homer and struck out nobody. Four of his five outs in play were on the ground. Austin Bibens-Dirkx (3-2) pitched the final seven innings and limited the Yanks to a run on two hits and two walks with six K's. Of his 15 outs in play, 12 were on the ground.

Dunedin answered a Yankee run in the first with two of their own, courtesy of a Jon Berti triple that scored a Jose Reyes single. Berti would score on an Andy Burns base rap. Down 3-2 in the second, the Jays quickly responded with three more runs thanks to a bases-clearing triple by Burns. Derrick Chung added an insurance run with a two-out RBI single in the seventh. Berti and Burns led the hit parade with three apiece with Berti earning a walk and Burns stealing a base. Reyes, Chung and Nick Baligod had two hits apiece. Mike Crouse singled and walked, Oliver Dominguez doubled and Matt Newman walked. Peter Mooney was 0-for-2 after replacing Reyes while K.C. Hobson was hitless in four at-bats.


Spokane 10 Vancouver 1

Vancouver, BC — The C's earned a failing grade in front of a full house for their home opener. The Rangers affiliate snapped a scoreless tie with a two-out RBI single with against lefthander Bobby Brosnahan (0-1) in the fourth. The Indians then erupted for eight runs in the fifth. Brosnahan only got one out in the inning and was charged with five runs on seven hits, a walk and a hit by pitch while striking out four. Tim Brechbuehler only retired one hitter, allowing two inherited runs to score on a bases-clearing triple. He surrendered four runs on three hits and three walks. Alvado Jimenez came into the game with the bases loaded and only allowed an inherited run to score. He struck out a pair over 1 1/3 scoreless innings. Markus Brisker overcame a hit and a walk by striking out two over a scoreless frame. Justin James worked a shutout inning but Brandon Dorsett allowed the 10th Spokane run on two hits and two walks in the ninth but managed one strikeout.

The lone run for Vancouver came in the eighth when Nico Taylor tripled and scored on a wild pitch. Daniel Klein had a double and a single and threw out four out of six Spokane basestealers from behind the plate. Ian Parmley had a single and a base on balls. Jorge Vega-Rosado had the other base hit. Jordan Leyland worked two walks and Jason Leblebijian had one. Dickie Thon Jr. was 0-for-4 with three strikeouts while Justin Atkinson was 0-for-4 with two whiffs. Ronnie Melendez was 0-for-3.


DSL Blue Jays 14 DSL Brewers 8

San Pedro de Macoris, DR — The Jays were down 2-0 in the first inning but got on the board with a double steal as Deiferson Barreto swiped home. Juan Tejada singled home Michael De La Cruz, who had stolen second on the back end of the double steal. De La Cruz singled home another run in the third and Leudy Garcia drew a bases-loaded walk to give the Jays a 4-3 lead. The Jays busted the game open with six runs in the fourth. Richard Urena singled home the first run and a wild pitch brought in another. The big swing came from Ronniel Demorizi as he socked a grand slam. The Jays added a single run in innings five through eight on a Juan Kelly double play grounder, a wild pitch, a passed ball and a De La Cruz RBI double.

De La Cruz had three walks and two stolen bases to go along with his two hits. Barreto was 0-for-1 but drew four walks, scored four runs and stole two bases. Demorizi walked twice in addition to his grand salami. Urena and Juan Fuente singled and walked twice while Jean Almanzar singled, walked and was hit by a pitch.  Javier Hernandez had two singles, a hit by a pitch and a stolen base after pinch-running for Tejada. Garcia worked the count to ball four twice and Kelly did so once. Dean Bell was 0-for-1 and Luis Dominguez was 0-for-2.

Lefthander Wilfri Aleton pitched the first two innings and the Brew Crew got to him for three runs on three hits, including a two-run homer, and a walk. He did strike out a pair. Lefty Juliandry Higuera (2-0) pitched four shutout frames of one-hit ball, striking out four and facing the minimum 12 batters. Greylor Conde was roughed up for four runs (three earned) on five hits in two-thirds of an inning. Denis Diaz stranded two runners for Conde but did allow a run of his own on two hits in 1 2/3 innings. All five of his outs were punchouts. Jairo Rosario walked a hitter but stranded a pair of Diaz's runners with a strikeout over 2/3 of an inning to finish up.


Boxscores


*** 3 Stars!!! ***

3. Andy Burns, Dunedin —
Has an OPS of 1.160 over his last 10 games and has 51 RBI this season.

2. Austin Bibens-Dirkx, Dunedin —
Florida State League hitting just .177 against him and has a 52-12 K-BB total in 42.1 innings.

1. Michael De La Cruz, DSL Blue Jays —
Hitting .341 with a 1.054 OPS this season.


Tuesday's Probable Starters...

DSL Blue Jays
vs. DSL Tigers, 10:30 am ET.
New HampshireMarcus Walden (4-7, 3.58) @ Altoona, 7:00 pm ET.
DunedinScott Copeland (6-2, 2.41) @ Tampa, 7:00 pm ET
Buffalo Dave Bush (7-4, 4.23) vs. Gwinnett, 7:05 pm ET.
Vancouver - Colton Turner (NR) vs. Spokane, 10:05 pm ET.
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John Northey - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 08:07 AM EDT (#274375) #
Just for curiosity I checked the weather in the Dominican - doesn't have forecasts on the weather network, but does list that it is currently 24 with humidity making it feel like 35.  I'm sure it'll be in the 30's by mid-day with humidity still sky high.  Ick.  Guess you get used to it if you live there.
Mylegacy - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 12:25 PM EDT (#274397) #
I have never followed the DSL closely during its season - however - I've always looked at the season's final stats during the off-season. AND - I've been doing that since the late 80's.

AND - seriously, I can't EVER remember a Jay's DSL team that had EVEN ONE hitter who was producing let alone this year were De la Cruz, Barreto, Tejada and Demarizi ALL look seriously interesting...
Sister - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 12:37 PM EDT (#274398) #
It is really looking like Dickie Thon Jr. is heading the route of the bust prospect.

There really aren't many promising signs when you view his performance, which raises questions as to how he was so over-hyped out of high school? What was his competition like? I would have assumed a scout heavy organization like the Jays would have had him viewed many times and that he passed the eye-test -- so I can't get my head around his absolutely poor showing even at very low levels in the minors.



John Northey - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 12:50 PM EDT (#274400) #
I wonder if Dickie Thon Jr might be part of what cost some of those scouts their jobs with the Jays.  He is progressing as slow as possible, 2 full years in rookie ball (two different teams), now in A- short season yet he hit worse at each level, from a poor 691 first season to 640 last year to 180 OPS this year (just 17 PA but still, ouch).  Same with others such as Alford who hit poorly last year and seems to have little interest in baseball.

Rating scouts is critical and extremely hard.  You need to know which scouts will direct you to the best talent, and which will find duds.  Which can estimate the true potential and which cannot.  For example, whoever saw Tim Collins was smart enough to know that size isn't everything as he is now a solid reliever for KC (very wild, but effective overall).  Whoever scouted Thon might have been blown away by bloodlines but didn't consider if he has the skill to really be there or just had an advantage due to better coaching which would wear off as he faced others with pro-coaching.

finch - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#274402) #

What's the story on this De La Cruz kid? Seems to be smashing the baseball at the moment. Was he a high bonus baby? Or did we get him from another organization?

PeterG - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 01:26 PM EDT (#274404) #
I too would like some info on De La Cruz......
Mylegacy - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 01:35 PM EDT (#274405) #
I googled him and...

In 2012 he was 19, he was 5' 11" and 170 pounds he was a backup catcher and a relief pitcher. At a tournament he was surprisingly good and the Jays signed him right after it. He has bat speed and surprising power. This year in 44 at bats (SSS WARNING) he is hitting .341/.554/.500 with 21 BB and only 10 SO's.

Paul D - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#274406) #
For example, whoever saw Tim Collins was smart enough to know that size isn't everything as he is now a solid reliever for KC (very wild, but effective overall). Wasn't it Riccardi's dad who saw him?
Hodgie - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 02:43 PM EDT (#274414) #
I am only shocked that people still get shocked by prospect failures. I am sure that Simon and Garfunkel could detail at least 50 ways to leave your baseball career by now.
sam - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 02:48 PM EDT (#274415) #
John,

I should probably do a post on this, but the firing of the scouts was interesting for a number of reasons.  Some of the guys will likely have asked to leave the organization to pursue other opportunities.  Mike Medici is an adjunct at Canisius, for example.  The Jays also have a new Director of Amateur Scouting in Brian Parker and he'll want to bring in some of "his" guys.  There's also been some shifting in the Jays' front office and who and what they scout.  The Orioles proved last year the value of pro scouting and the Jays have increased their pro scouting staff accordingly in the last year. 

Then you look at the regions the amateur guys scouting.  Grampietro and Pastornicky were Florida based I believe and Miller was a Texas guy.  The vast majority of ball players come from Texas, Florida, and California.  The Jays have four area guys in California--they're well covered there, but only two area guys in Texas now and one area guy in Florida.  I've noticed in past years that the Jays have really shied away from the Florida and Texas ball player.  What I mean by this, when there spot was up and you looked at a Baseball America board you'd see a couple Texas and Florida guys and they'd go and draft the California kid or someone from a different region.  It happened way to frequently.  You look at the last four drafts and of the guys the Jays invested money in how many were from Texas and Florida vs. other regions and California.  In 2010, the Jays drafted Syndergaard, Nicolino, Nolin (a Long Island kid who played in Texas), and Taylor.  That year the Jays drafted two guys early from California and a bunch of guys from the Carolinas and Georgia.  Taylor is a significant black mark as he was given six figures and dropped out of baseball with a year of two of the draft due to drugs and character issues.  That looks bad on a scout who vouched for the kid.  In 2011 the Jays drafted Gabryszki and Stilson in the second and third round after taking two kids from California earlier.  They also selected Matt Dean and gave him big money and Anthony Desclafani.  So four guys here who got money from the two regions as opposed to Anderson, Musgrove, and Lopes who got money from California.  In 2012, they didn't draft anybody of note from Florida and drafted Tyler Gonzales (Texas) and Chase DeJong (California).  It's interesting that there was no one drafted high from Florida.  Then this year, not one Florida kid and no one from Texas of any distinction.  A lot of guys from California though (Bickford, Greene, Murphy--who would've had some viewing in Arizona--Tellez).  In this time as well, the Jays have made like Sherman through the Carolina's and Georgia, and have also drafted heavily out of Mississippi. 

I don't know if this proves much.  Given how other teams look at Texas and Florida, I think there are trends here.  The crop in recent years out of Carolina and Georgia has been particularly good and the Jays have done well to get guys out of those areas.  There are stigmas associated with the Florida pitcher, for example, that playing year round does not bode well.  I think the scout's do play a role here so perhaps the front office types have lost some faith in these area guys.  Ultimately the area guy knows the most about a kid and will have to defend his guy in the build up to the draft.  Either these guys just don't believe in these kids (something I find quite unlikely considering the volume and talent of prospects out of these regions), or there's something else at work.

The Jays will surely be looking to add to their amateur staff.  One area guy in Florida and two area guys in Texas is not enough to cover those regions. 

finch - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 02:49 PM EDT (#274416) #
maybe the blue jays need to examine the development side of these prospects. not so much why are the prospects failing but how are we failing these prospects.
sam - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 02:50 PM EDT (#274417) #
Yes, Riccardi's Dad saw him at an American Legion game I believe and asked JP to have a look at him.  Thon was a Puerto Rico kid and I'm not too sure if the Jays let one of their Puerto Rico guys go. 
sam - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 03:06 PM EDT (#274420) #
Finch,

I tend to agree with you.  They've drafted a lot of guys recently with legit tools.  But the rate (which Gerry recently indicated) at which these guys realize the tools has been quite slow--especially hitters.  On the pitching side I don't have much criticism, but offensively they've been absolutely abysmal in their development of young HS hitters.  Marisnick, is probably the only success story at the moment of the HS hitters they've drafted who were considered raw, but possessing high end tools.  What Chris Hawkins has done (or had prior) with his swing should have gotten somebody fired.  Then you look at Kellen Sweeney, Jake Anderson, Marcus Knecht, Matt Dean, Dickie Thon, Shane Optiz, Brandon Mims, Gus Pierre, Derrick Loveless, and DJ Davis.  Granted it's early for a lot of these guys, but just about the only success stories and even these guys I would argue might be a reach as none of them are really knocking down any doors would be Dwight Smith, Santiago Nessy, and Christian Lopes.  Anthony Alford--who knows, and Mitch Nay is going to play in the GCL this year. 

Lugnut Fan - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 03:53 PM EDT (#274429) #
Sam, you are absolutely correct.  JP Riccardi's dad saw him throw in an American Legion tournament and asked JP to look at him.  JP looked at him and offered him a tryout.  He was a couple of weeks away from going to a community college and being out of baseball all together because there wasn't even a college team that wanted him.
Lugnut Fan - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 03:54 PM EDT (#274430) #
And by him, I'm referring to Collins.
hypobole - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 04:08 PM EDT (#274434) #
Not exactly sure how scouting departments work, but the Thon, Anderson and Dean draft and signings wouldn't have been on the word of a scout. There would be regional and national crosscheckers involved also considering the bonuses they received, no? Whereas a guy like Pillar may have been an area scout only who saw him and recommended he be drafted?
sam - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 04:20 PM EDT (#274437) #
hypobole,

You're right to say multiple guys would have seen higher end guys, but the area guy would have seen the guy most frequently.  The crosscheckers will go to major tournaments and see some guys as well, but ultimately it's up to the area guy to forge that connection with amateur and also the area guy who is following the kid game to game.  John Hart, for example, spoke in depth about how kids get evaluated and the importance of the area guy in the drafting of kids during the draft.  Come draft time, it will be the area guy who will be grilled on a prospect, the cross checker will either back the area guy up or not and then compare the talent to others in the state/region and then the national guys to do the same on a much larger scale.  The Director of Scouting, who might have seen the guy once or twice will go off the information he's provided and perhaps a viewing or two of his own.  It's really the area guys who do the work and provide the narrative on a prospect. 

JB21 - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 05:34 PM EDT (#274450) #
21 walks in 65 plate appearances. That's impressive.
John Northey - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 05:52 PM EDT (#274452) #
A shame JP's dad would probably not be willing to work for the Jays as a regional scout then.  Says something when he saw something that no college or scout saw, especially given how fast Tim Collins made it to the majors.

Guys like him are the scouts you need.  Ones who see what a kid can do rather than what they cannot.  Finding the very best scouts at each level (bird dog, regional, crosschecker, national, etc.) is how a team can get that 3rd and 4th quality player out of a draft vs how you normally get just 1 or 2.

For example, the Rays are seen as a team that makes the most out of everything but how often have they got more than 2 guys worth 5+ WAR out of the draft?  They've drafted since 1996 and often in the higher end remember.  But just twice did they get 3 valuable guys out of the draft since 1996.  Never 4+.
0 : 2004, 2008-present
1 : 1997, 2001, 2005, 2007
2 : 1996,  1998, 1999, 2003,2006
3: 2000, 2002

The draft is an amazing thing, but all a team can realistically hope for is 2 valuable players and a few role players.
TamRa - Wednesday, June 19 2013 @ 04:32 AM EDT (#274468) #
regarding the "What is up with Thon?'" comments...

Perhaps there's something we don't know like, for instance, the disorder that hampered him from even getting on the field much the first year seriously sapped his strength...maybe it could be asked in some interview but it's at least one possibility.

As a general thought though, fans are generally FAR too quick to apply the "bust" label.



John Northey - Wednesday, June 19 2013 @ 09:14 AM EDT (#274472) #
Good point TamRa.  Often a top prospect (raw tools) is just a 'simple' fix away from being a solid player or even a star.  Bautista was on the edge of being released, Encarnacion actually was released (by the A's after the Jays sent him there for next to nothing), Romero was viewed as a bust for awhile before being an allstar and a bust again.  I remember Devon White being viewed as a 'never will live up to expectations' pre-Jay time, some were starting to feel that way about Olerud before 1993 hit (people didn't pay as much attention to OBP then), Dickey was given up on many many times.  Just to give a few examples.

Now, sometimes it is clear things didn't work out - the 2007 draft is now far enough in the past that we can safely say that 3 of the 5 first round picks the Jays had were busts - Kevin Aherns (just reached AA has a 641 OPS there after 374 games in A+), Justin Jackson (was a SS now a pitcher), Trystan Magnuson (has been traded, purchased back and released - but did help get Rajai Davis).  The other two were JPA and Cecil, both useful players.  There were 2 second round picks that didn't make it too - Eric Eiland (last seen in independent ball in 2011) and John Tolisano (in AA with a 657 OPS).  Funny thing is that getting 2 of the 7 top 100 picks from that year to the majors and being successful (Cecil first as a starter briefly now as a solid setup man, JPA as a starting catcher) is actually fairly good.  For example, the A's had 5 picks in the first 100 that year and just 2 have made it to the majors - one drafted at 1B made it as a reliever and another hit poorly as an outfielder.

The draft is a crapshoot it seems, but stars are out there to be found each year.  The trick is finding them.
TA - Wednesday, June 19 2013 @ 09:35 AM EDT (#274473) #
Looks like Eiland has made the transition to college football:

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/tag/_/name/eric-eiland
John Northey - Wednesday, June 19 2013 @ 10:39 AM EDT (#274481) #
Thinking of the draft I looked back for fun and saw 1982...
Round 1: 2nd overall pick Jays take Augie Schmidt, Mets take Dwight Gooden with 5th pick, the only guy in round 1 to crack 15 WAR with just 6 guys getting 3+ WAR (all 6 are over 10)
Round 2: 3 guys crack 50 WAR - Bonds, Larkin and Jays pick David Wells.  7 more between 5 and 9.9 WAR for a total of 10 guys over 5.  Bonds doesn't sign btw (Giants), nor does Larkin (Reds).
Round 3: 3 guys over 20 WAR including Jays pick Jimmy Key at 49.6.  4 more crack 5 WAR giving 7 total over 5.
Round 4: 4 guys over 5 WAR including 50+ers Randy Johnson (DNS Atlanta) and Will Clark (DNS Royals)
Round 5: 5 guys over 5 WAR best being B.J. Surhoff who DNS with the Yankees
Round 6: just 1 over 5 WAR in Alvin Davis as Jays take Pat Borders and don't regret it.
Round 7: 2 over 5 WAR including Terry Pendleton
Round 8: 2 over 5 WAR including Rafael Palmeiro (DNS with Mets)
Round 9: 2 over 5 WAR including Tom Browning (future perfect game)
Round 10: 3 over 5 WAR but 2 didn't sign (Walt Weiss with Orioles, Incaviglia with Giants)

Now that was a draft year.  If there wasn't the PED issue you'd have 4 HOF'ers, 2 of whom could be viewed as inner circle (Johnson & Bonds) yet none of them signed nor were any picked in round 1.  Teams were being cheap back then and didn't give out bonuses that made skipping college seem attractive.  The Jays didn't do badly with 2 HOVG guys in Key & Wells plus a key part of the WS teams in Borders but imagine if they took Gooden in round one.  Sigh.
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