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Today was a new day for New Hampshire, they forgot about giving up 16 runs yesterday and their bats put together 22 runs. Marcus Stroman had another fantastic start, and Mauro Gomez hit another home run.

Buffalo 3 – Pawtucket 5

Chad Jenkins had another disappointing start for Buffalo since his demotion from Toronto, today he went 3 innings giving up 5 earned runs. Claudio Vargas, and Joel Carreno followed up with 5 scoreless innings combined.

Mauro Gomez hit his 19th HR of the season, which accounted for two of the three Bisons runs today. Moises Sierra scored the other run via a hit from Ricardo Nanita.

New Hampshire 22 – Erie 1

The day after New Hampshire got demolished by Erie, the Fisher-Cats returned the favour towards Erie. New Hampshire had 23 hits and 22 runs versus Erie today. AJ Jimenez had another excellent game since his promotion to NH, he was 5-6, with 2 doubles, and 5 runs. Adam Loewen had a monster day going 4-6, with 2 HR, and 5 rbi, and Brad Glenn hit well going 3-4 with 1HR, 3 rbi, and 2 walks. Everyone had a monster night except for 2007 first rounder Kevin Ahrens, who was a measly 1-4 with 1 run, and a walk.

Marcus Stroman had another fantastic start for NH, he went 6 innings giving up 3 hits, 1 earned run, with 1 walk, and 5 strikeouts.

Dunedin – Weekend off for All-Star Break

Lansing 0 – Bowling Green 8

This afternoon the Lugnuts faced Tampa Bay 2011 1st round pick Taylor Guerreri, who has had a fantastic season so far. He continued to pitch fantastic, as he pitched 5 innings giving up 4 hits, 0 runs, with 1 walk, and 7 strikeouts. Kevin Patterson was 1-3 with a double, and Jorge Flores was 1-3 with a single, and a walk in which was a quiet day for the Lugnuts bats.

This afternoon Lugnuts pitchers did not pitch well, but had an odd stats line, as they gave up 14 hits, 8 earned runs, but only gave up 2 walks, with 13 strikeouts. Alonso Gonzalez started this afternoon, going 5 innings of 7 hit ball, with 1 walk, 5 strikeouts, and 3 earned runs. Justin Jackson had a clean 7th inning giving up a hit, and 2 strikeouts.

Vancouver 3 - Tri City 4

2011 second round pick Jeremy Gabryszwski continued last years trend of walking no one, and strikeing out next to no-one last night. He pitched 6 innings of 3 hit ball, giving up 0 walks, with 1 strikeout, and giving up 1 earned run.

Canadian's 1B Jordan Leyland, was 3-3 with a homerun and a walk. Andy Fermin was another bat that had a decent game, as he went 1-2 with 2 walks.

Three Stars

3-Marcus Stroman

2-AJ Jimenez

1-Adam Loewen

Posted by tercet on Sunday, June 16 2013 @ 10:12 PM EDT.

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92-93 - Sunday, June 16 2013 @ 10:37 PM EDT (#274282) #

It's nice having Mauro Gomez around. He leads the IL in HRs (18) and could probably handle LHP in the bigs if the team was looking for a replacement bat should they ever choose to give Melky a DL stint to rest up. The team could go with a

uglyone - Sunday, June 16 2013 @ 11:20 PM EDT (#274284) #

Age 20

A.Jimenez (A): 292pa, 6.2bb%, 19.2k%, .362babip, .305/.347/.435/.775, .352woba, 113wRC+
T.D'Arnaud (A): 540pa, 7.6bb%, 13.9k%, .273babip, .255/.319/.419/.738, .337woba, 109wRC+

Age 21

A.Jimenez (A+): 422pa, 6.6bb%, 14.2k%, .348babip, .303/.353/.417/.770, .351woba, 115wRC+
T.D'Arnaud (A+): 292pa, 6.8bb%, 21.6k%, .312babip, .259/.315/.411/.726, .333woba, 107wRC+

Age 22

A.Jimenez (AA): 112pa, 4.5bb%, 11.6k%, .278babip, .260/.297/.375/.672, .304woba, 83wRC+
T.D'Arnaud (AA): 466pa, 7.1bb%, 21.5k%, .365babip, .311/.371/.542/.914, .403woba, 150wRC+

Age 23

A.Jimenez (A+/AA): 51pa, 2.0bb%, 9.8k%, ~.400babip, .449/.451/.653/1.104, ~.450woba, ~200wRC+
T.D'Arnaud (AAA): 303pa, 6.3bb%, 19.5k%, .374babip, .333/.380/.595/.975, .415woba, 147wRC+

Gerry - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 10:33 AM EDT (#274295) #

Dickie Thon played CF yesterday.

It is tough to compare Jimenez's last two seasons to anyone, they were both shortened because of his TJ surgery. D'Arnaud had a breakout season at age 22 and he continued that at age 23. We have to wait and see what impact all the injury time will have on d'Arnaud's hitting and defense. Is this Jimenez's break-out season? He only has a few AB's so far.

From what I have seen Jimenez is more of a free swinger than d'Arnaud, but he also makes better line-drive contact. Jimenez will likely have a higher batting average but perhaps a lower OBP and most likely a lower slugging.

Mike Green - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 10:44 AM EDT (#274298) #

Jiminez and d'Arnaud are quite different players. The major thing they share (with many other catchers) is the questionable effect of significant injuries on career path. d'Arnaud is a better all-around hitter- when healthy, he's got power almost at the level of Arencibia, pretty good plate discipline and contact ability, and pretty good speed as well. Jiminez had a commanding presence on the field and good overall catching abilities, when healthy. "When healthy" is the key phrase in both cases.

Beyonder - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 10:53 AM EDT (#274300) #

Melky is getting tough to watch in the outfield. I notice his limp the most whenever he has to decelerate to pick up the ball -- his gait is instantly recognizable as belonging to someone who's in quite a bit of pain. Got to hand it to him for playing through this, but there are times even I wouldn't mind seeing Anthony Gose called up -- I think we can safely call him up at this point without worrying too much about interfering with his development.

John Northey - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 11:17 AM EDT (#274308) #

I wonder - would it make sense to see if Lind or Encarnacion can handle LF once Lawrie is back? That way you keep all the hitters but might help with Melky's limp. Might be time to DL Melky too, or at least give him a day off as his last 10 he has hit 238/256/357, and the 10 before that 286/348/310. No power, his OBP isn't solid overall. From May 11th to May 29th he was hot - 367/426/533 - but a 550 OPS since and a 637 before suggests he hasn't been too useful outside that 2+ week window. Encarnacion is the only other Jay to play every game.

92-93 - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 11:22 AM EDT (#274309) #

I've been saying this a bunch, but I'd DL Melky the day Reyes gets back. He very clearly needs some time off. .253/.298/.329 the last 3 weeks. You could then turn LF into a platoon between Davis & Gose or Bonifacio. I also agree with the sentiment that the need to give Gose everyday ABs is overstated and that if he makes the most sense as a call-up, the team shouldn't hesitate to do so.

Gerry - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 11:30 AM EDT (#274312) #

Gose is in a horrible slump right now. For June his line is .167/.205/.194. That is a 400 OPS. In 36 AB's in June he has 2 walks and 19 K's.

tercet - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 11:31 AM EDT (#274313) #

Wasn't Thon supposed to be a defensive wizard? It seems a bit early then to move him to CF, possibly he is being turned into a utility player already?

Mike Green - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 11:35 AM EDT (#274314) #

Gose is really struggling, against all types of pitching, in Buffalo. 60 strikeouts in 50 games, 6 out of 13 stealing bases, a .216/.318/.300 slash line. It actually has been worse the last 10 days. He looked pretty good when he was here, so it may be that he is unhappy being in Buffalo and underperforming rather than treating it as a challenge.

finch - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 12:03 PM EDT (#274316) #

The question is...if Colby Rasmus continues to play this well, do you lock him up for a 4-5 year contract and look to trade Anthony Gose before other teams realize he's another Juan Pierre with Plus Plus defense?

Beyonder - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 12:17 PM EDT (#274317) #

I think locking Rasmus up now to something reasonable (4 yrs, 32M?) would be a very good calculated gamble. I think he feels comfortable here, and would be happy to re-sign.

Juan Pierre is a career .295 batter. At this stage Gose's value is at its low-water point.

I don't know if AA had a choice between giving up Gose or Marisnick in the Marlins deal, but if he did boy would I like to have that one back.

sam - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 12:20 PM EDT (#274318) #

Way too soon to give up Anthony Gose. He was always going to take time to develop. Look what Dom Brown is doing with the Phillies. Besides trading Anthony Gose now, when his value is down, who are you, Gregg Zaun?

finch - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 12:29 PM EDT (#274320) #

I am Greg Zaun. Just waiting for my steriods...

92-93 - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 12:38 PM EDT (#274323) #

Juan Pierre with plus defense would be a FANTASTIC outcome for Anthony Gose. Pierre is a career .295 hitter with a .345 OBP.

You won't find a bigger fan of Rasmus around here than me, but guaranteeing him that much $ is unnecessary at this time. Colby should be happy having his 2014 arbitration salary locked in, and the team could provide that for an FA option or 2 tacked on. The majority of Jays fans were already non-tendering Rasmus this winter and installing Gose as the everyday CF, so I'm glad to see some interest in extending him.

Beyonder - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 12:38 PM EDT (#274324) #

I wouldn't trade him now, but if you are managing expectations I think now is pretty much the right time to give up on Anthony Gose.

Over 7 seasons, Domonic Brown posted a slash line of 296/373/461 for an OPS of 834. And what Domonic Brown is doing now at the major league level could not have been predicted on the basis of his minor league numbers at all.

Mike Green has mentioned a few times the Blue Jays' fascination with "tools" to the exclusion of actual performance, and while I don't know if I agree with him overall, I think Anthony Gose is Exhibit "A" to that case.

85bluejay - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 12:56 PM EDT (#274325) #

With Gose scuffling, Jimenez is the only positional prospect I can think of to get excited about until way down in the minors - the Jays are probably the most barren system in terms of positional prospects in baseball. I hope the FO will make an extra effort to acquire young positional players that may become available - e.g. I still like Dustin Ackley's potential & Seattle seems likely to go with a Miller/Franklin middle infield of the future

finch - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 01:00 PM EDT (#274326) #

I would flip Gose for Ackley in a heart beat.

uglyone - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 01:33 PM EDT (#274328) #

Hate the comparisons to guys like Juan Pierre. The only thing similar between Pierre and Gose is speed. Literally nothing else matches up. Pierre has always been a slap hitter whose only skills were contact and speed. Even his fielding was mediocre at best. Gose has one significant weakness, and that's contact at this point, but has good to very good skills across the rest of the board - patience, power, speed, defense.

Not to mention that Gose has been one of the youngest players at every level he's played at so far, far ahead of most prospects including the likes of Pierre.

And not to mention that Gose, despite being one of the youngest players at every level, has been a comfortably above average hitter at each of those levels (A+ 110wRC+, AA 114wRC+, AAA 106wRC+) up until this year's small AAA sample.

as for the pierre comp, note not only the production, but the fact that Gose is 3 levels higher in most of the years (and remember again that Pierre came up in an inflated offensive environment, as their MLB OPS+ shows):

Age 20

J.Pierre (A-): 290pa, 6.6bb%, 3.8k%, .050iso, .352/.399/.402/.800, 38/47sb
A.Gose (AA): 587pa, 10.6bb%, 26.2k%, .162iso, .253/.349/.415/.763, 70/85sb

Age 21

J.Pierre (A): 648pa, 5.9bb%, 5.8k%, .070iso, .320/.366/.390/.756, 66/85sb
A.Gose (AAA): 479pa, 10.2bb%, 21.1k%, .133iso, .286/.366/.419/.785, 34/46sb

Age 22

J.Pierre (AA): 489pa, 6.8bb%, 5.3k%, .054iso, .326/.376/.380/.757, 46/58sb
A.Gose (AAA): 222pa, 11.3bb%, 27.0k%, .084iso, .216/.318/.300/.618, 6/13sb

MLB by age 22

J.Pierre (MLB): 219pa, 5.9bb%, 6.9k%, .010iso, .310/.353/.320/.673, 7/13sb, 58ops+
A.Gose (MLB): 215pa, 9.3bb%, 29.8k%, .095iso, .233/.313/.328/.641, 15/18sb, 75ops+

uglyone - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 01:58 PM EDT (#274329) #

MLB

D.Ackley (23-25): 1215pa, 9.1bb%, 19.3k%, 20/23sb, .107iso, .237/.307/.344/.651, .288woba, 85wRC+, +5.8uzr/150 @ 2B
A.Gose (21-22): 215pa, 9.3bb%, 29.8k%, 15/18sb, .095iso, .233/.313/.328/.641, .288woba, 78wRC+, +48.3uzr/150 @ CF

MLB by age 22

D.Ackley (-----): ----
A.Gose (21-22): 215pa, 9.3bb%, 29.8k%, 15/18sb, .095iso, .233/.313/.328/.641, .288woba, 78wRC+, +48.3uzr/150 @ CF

AAA

D.Ackley (22-25): 662pa, 13.6bb%, 13.3k%, 9/13sb, .171iso, .304/.401/.475/.876, .388woba, 124wRC+
A.Gose (21-22): 701pa, 10.6bb%, 22.3k%, 40/59sb, .118iso, .264/.351/.382/.733, .335woba, 96wRC+

AAA by age 22

D.Ackley (22-22): 237pa, 8.4bb%, 16.0k%, 2/3sb, .165iso, .274/.338/.439/.777, .340woba, 96wRC+
A.Gose (21-22): 701pa, 10.6bb%, 22.3k%, 40/59sb, .118iso, .264/.351/.382/.733, .335woba, 96wRC+

AA

D.Ackley (22-22): 350pa, 15.7bb%, 11.7k%, 8/10sb, .121iso, .260/.386/.381/.767, .362woba, 118wRC+
A.Gose (20-20): 587pa, 10.6bb%, 26.2k%, 70/85sb, .161iso, .253/.349/.415/.753, .348woba, 114wRC+

Grass is always greener, I guesss.

ayjackson - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#274331) #

Maybe a JPA-Ackley offseason challenge trade. Wouldn't mind seeing Thole-Jiminez sharing the catching duties next year.

Mike Green - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 02:14 PM EDT (#274332) #

Gose has a very significant contact issue, and always has had that. His power, both this year and last at Las Vegas, has been way below average, although there is no doubt that the potential is there. It's very difficult to succeed at the major league level if you strike out 160-200 times a year, unless you have power (i.e. the Colby Rasmus/Mike Cameron way). Right now, Gose looks most like a somewhat younger version of Gary Pettis.

The difference between New Hampshire and Las Vegas is pretty significant, and if you adjust for that, Gose has been moving backwards since 2011. He turns 23 in August, and it would be a good time for him to turn it around

uglyone - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 02:17 PM EDT (#274334) #

We can adjust for the vegas effect using wRC+ (like ops+, with 100 = league average)

2009 (A): 96wRC+
2010 (A+): 109wRC+
2011 (AA): 114wRC+
2012 (AAA): 106wRC+ (mlb 73wRC+)
2013 (AAA): 74wRC+ (mlb 119wRC+)

the small sample size of this year's 222paa AAA performance is the only misstep so far in his career.

Beyonder - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 02:24 PM EDT (#274336) #

Isn't being uniformly average itself a misstep?

Hodgie - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 02:38 PM EDT (#274337) #

His present struggles in AAA not withstanding, any thought of giving up on Gose at this point is crazy talk. I agree with 92-93's assertion that the Jays would be better off with Cabrera on the disabled list and a platoon of Davis and Gose patrolling LF. I am more than confident in Gibbons' ability to get Gose more than enough at-bats to not stunt his on-going development and he has looked very good in his last two recalls whether at the plate, in the field or on the base paths.

uglyone - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 02:53 PM EDT (#274338) #

"Isn't being uniformly average itself a misstep?"

not when you're one of the top-5 youngest players in the league at every stop.

Mike Green - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 03:14 PM EDT (#274339) #

I wouldn't say he looked good on the basepaths in Toronto. Very fast, but with poor judgment. This might be reflected in the fact that he is stealing bases with less than 50% success rate in Buffalo.

I have no idea how Gose would do if given the platoon role in Toronto now. I generally oppose the idea of giving players who are struggling mightily in the high minors a promotion. Gose might be an exception, but it would take a clear understanding of the reasons for his Buffalo struggles. He may simply be discouraged (what with Rasmus looking as though he might be here for a long time).

Ryan Day - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 03:38 PM EDT (#274340) #

There may not be a need to choose between Gose & Rasmus. Gose in centre & Rasmus in right could be perfectly fine; you could stick Adam Lind back in LF and still have a well above-average OF defence.

But there's no need to rush anything. Gose is young, and has another year of options. It would also be prudent to see what Rasmus really has - he had a good first half last year before falling apart after the all-star break.

Hodgie - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 03:39 PM EDT (#274341) #

Maybe I am just a sucker for dynamic speed, but I can only think of two poor decisions off the top of my head. Stolen bases surely weren't an issue in last season's trial and part of what makes great players great is their physical tools sometimes over-coming their poorer decisions. For what it is worth, Fangraphs thought his base running was outstanding during his recall last year as well.

uglyone - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 04:12 PM EDT (#274342) #

For the record I in no way want gose up here right now. He needs at least one full year in the minors at an age-appropriate level...maybe more.

The really nice thing about Rasmus hitting well, even passably vs. LHP, is that this might allow us to consider making Davis/Cabrera the platoon in the OF.

v. LHP: Davis .812ops (Cabrera .529ops)
v. RHP: Cabrera .744ops (Davis .662ops)

Gerry - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 04:27 PM EDT (#274344) #

The Blue Jays site has a brief story on the injured minor league prospects:

Osuna was the first to get back on the mound, throwing five shutout innings for Class A Lansing on June 9. While the Blue Jays don't want to publicly commit to a timeline for Sanchez's and Norris' return, assistant general manager Tony LaCava said both should be pitching again soon.

"Both guys are champing at the bit to get back," LaCava said.

Sanchez, the Blue Jays' No. 1 prospect, has been on the disabled list since he suffered a shoulder injury on May 18. LaCava said Sanchez is now pain-free and making progress with his throwing program.

greenfrog - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 04:43 PM EDT (#274346) #

Rasmus has done a nice job of getting the Ks under control. His current K rate is 32.4%, still relatively high but much lower than the 45% he was flirting with in the early going. He's putting together a very solid first half.

Maldoff - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 04:44 PM EDT (#274347) #

Anyone have an update on Kenny Wilson? He's been out for a while now, but not really sure why.

Gerry - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 05:05 PM EDT (#274349) #

I had heard about Wilson but I forget. It may have been a stress fracture but that's coming from deep in my memory.

Mike Forbes - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 07:20 PM EDT (#274352) #

Jose Reyes is already 2 for 2 in his Dunedin Blue Jays debut.

hypobole - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 08:00 PM EDT (#274353) #

Morrow not as good as Reyes in his rehab start. Final line - 2 IP, 5 H, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 1 HR,

smcs - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 09:10 PM EDT (#274356) #

Until he gets the strikeouts under control, Gose's upside is still in the Carlos Gomez range, who still hasn't gotten the Ks under control, but has developed power at age 26.

jayBlue - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 09:48 PM EDT (#274364) #

Wonder when Andy Burns gets promoted to New Hampshire? Another 3 Hits and 4 RBIs tonight. No real prospect at AA.

jayBlue - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 09:50 PM EDT (#274365) #

I meant real 3b prospect at AA

hypobole - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 10:41 PM EDT (#274369) #

Dunedin has 2 games remaining and are clinging to a narrow lead to secure a playoff spot. If Burns moves up, it won't be until they clinch - so Wednesday or more likely Thursday at the earliest.

Quite the DSL box score. Jays won 14-8 despite being outhit 11-9. They were helped out a bit by the 17 walks issued by the Brewers pitchers. Never seen that before.

jayBlue - Monday, June 17 2013 @ 10:47 PM EDT (#274371) #

Thanks. didn't know how many games left in first half. Expecting Burns to move up and Pierre to take his spot.

John Northey - Tuesday, June 18 2013 @ 06:02 AM EDT (#274374) #

17 walks? Wow. Guess that is a group that doesn't go by the 'you can't walk off the island' rule. Had to check the box score for that DSL game. The Jays leadoff hitter had 4 walks, #3 hitter 3 walks, 4 guys 2 walks each and 2 guys had a walk each. Wonder what happened to Juan Tejada - he started in RF but was pulled for a pinch runner in the first inning. The Brewers used 4 pitches, one threw 1 2/3 IP but walked 6 and escaped with just 2 runs allowed thanks to 0 hits. The Brewers also had 6 wild pitches and a passed ball. Phew, crazy game. A shame they don't list pitch counts for the DSL as I'm sure the Brewers pitch count was quite high. The game made me think of Bull Durham and the records set by Nuke Laloosh - 18 strikeouts and 18 walks in his first game (the guy he was based on once threw 283 pitches in a complete game where he K'ed 27 and walked 16).

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