Batter's Box Interactive Magazine Batter's Box Interactive Magazine Batter's Box Interactive Magazine
The Monday MLU was rained out with the numerous tears in my beers due to the Leafs epic, ball-busting collapse. So today, it's two for the price of one to get everyone all caught up. The affiliates won five of seven over the last two days.


Tuesday's Games...

Indianapolis 10 Buffalo 4


Indianapolis, IN Moises Sierra gave the Herd a brief 1-0 lead with a solo homer in inning number one. Jim Negrych singled home a run in the third.  Then, Josh Thole and Andy LaRoche hit back-to-back jacks in the fifth off Pirates prospect Gerrit Cole. No Bison had more than one hit and only Mauro Gomez reached base twice with a double and a walk. Mike McCoy had a pinch single for LaRoche. Ryan Goins was the only Bison not to get on base.

Miguel Batista (1-2) only lasted three innings and was whacked for eight runs on 10 hits and two walks with just one strikeout. Bobby Korecky permitted two Batista runners to cross home plate and gave up two more over three frames. His K-BB total was three apiece. Michael Schwimer pitched 1 2/3 scoreless innings in spite of a hit and two walks. Clint Everts stranded a runner by retiring the only hitter he faced.


New Hampshire 3 Portland 0

Manchester, NH — Hey, a Toronto-affiliate squad can hold a 3-0 lead over a Boston team! Brian Van Kirk and Brad Glenn had RBI singles in the third inning. Kevin Pillar cashed in another run with a single in the sixth. Pillar had three hits while Glenn and Kevin Nolan had two each.

Marcus Walden
(2-4) was outstanding over 7 2/3 innings, permitting just four Sea Dogs to reach base on two hits and two runs. He mowed down 17 of 18 hitters during one stretch, racking up six K's with an incredible 13-1 groundout/flyout ratio. John Stilson was just as stingy in the contact department. He allowed a single but stranded two Walden runners and punched out four batters over 1 1/3 innings for his first save.


Dunedin 9 Fort Myers 3

Fort Myers, FLScott Copeland (3-1) overcame a pair of unearned runs in the first inning on an Andy Burns error at third to go six strong frames and allowing just three Twins to reach safely on two hits and a walk. He struck out three and rung up 12 outs on the ground. Dustin McGowan gave up a hit in his one inning of work but all three outs were strikeouts. Ajay Meyer surrendered a run on two hits over two-third of an inning. Lefty Efrain Nieves gave up a hit and a walk before getting one out. Blake McFarland walked one in a shutout ninth.

A wild pitch in the sixth inning finally got Dunedin on the board and they added two more on a Burns RBI groundout and a K.C. Hobson single. Dunedin added four more in the seventh, highlighted by a Jon Talley two-run double and a Derrick Chung base rap. Hobson and Nick Baligod delivered more insurance in the ninth with RBI singles. Chung was on base four times with three hits and a walk. Hobson, Newman and Shane Opitz each had a pair of hits.


Lansing 7 Lake County 4


Eastlake, OH
— The Lugnuts grabbed an early lead against the Indians affiliate with two runs in the first inning, courtesy of a Carlos Ramirez groundout and a Balbino Fuenmayor sacrifice fly. Emilio Guerrero plated a run with a single in the fourth. Fuenmayor tied the game for Lansing with an RBI single in the fifth inning. Aaron Munoz followed up with a two-run single to put Lansing ahead for good and Guerrero singled home another to cap off the frame. The multi-hit efforts were turned in by Guerrero with three; Munoz and Dalton Pompey had two. Pompey also swiped two bases. Dwight Smith Jr. was 1-for-5 with a stolen base.

Javier Avendano (3-2) got the win despite a WHIP of 2.00 over five innings. He gave up four runs on eight hits and two walks but struck out five and collected six groundouts. Tucker Donahue scattered two hits and a walk while striking out one in 1 2/3 scoreless innings. Wil Browning struck out three of the four hitters he faced in a perfect 1 1/3 innings, dropping his ERA to 42 cents. Arik Sikula worked a clean ninth for his second save.

Boxscores

*** 3 Stars!!! ***


3. John Stilson, New Hampshire

2. Derrick Chung, Dunedin

1. Marcus Walden, New Hampshire





Monday's Games...

Buffalo 5 Louisville 4


Louisville, KY —
A Moises Sierra single scored the first run of the game for the Bisons in the first inning. Josh Thole singled home the second Buffalo run in the fourth. The Herd needed a three-run homer by Mauro Gomez in the eighth inning to overcome a 4-2 deficit. Gomez collected three hits and Sierra had two. Anthony Gose had a double and a walk but struck out three times. Jim Negrych ruined his chance for a call-up by going 0-for-4.

Claudio Vargas worked in and out of trouble with a WHIP of 1.50 but lasted six innings against the Reds affiliate. He limited the Bats to two runs on seven hits and two walks while striking out three. Jeremy Jeffress had a rough one-third of an inning, giving up two runs on three hits and two walks. Lefthander Buddy Carlyle (2-0) kept the damage to a minimum. He stranded two of three Jeffress runners and struck out a batter over 1 2/3 shutout frames. Neil Wagner threw a one-hitter over the ninth and struck out a batter for his 10th save.


Fort Myers 6 Dunedin 2

Fort Myers, FLAaron Sanchez (2-2) did not enjoy one of his better outings. He got through five innings but walked four batters, surrendered three hits and hit a batter, resulting in three runs. Sanchez only struck out one but did record eight of his 11 outs in play on the ground. Dustin Antolin's two-third of an inning resulted in one run on one hit, one walk and one plunk with one strikeout. Lefty Tony Davis also plunked a batter struck out one of the two batters he retired. Marco Grifantini was roughed up for two runs on two hits and a walk in one-third of an inning. Scott Gracey finished up with 1 1/3 innings of one-hit ball with one K.

Dunedin trailed 2-0 before Andy Burns brought in the first run with a single in the third inning. The D-Jays would tie it in the fourth on a Matt Newman base rap. Burns, Newman and Jon Berti had two hits apiece with Newman drawing a walk and Berti stealing a pair of bases. Peter Mooney singled and walked twice. A.J. Jimenez was 1-for-3.


Lansing 5 Great Lakes 0

Lansing, MIEmilio Guerrero gave the Lugnuts the only runs they would need against the Dodgers farm club with a two-out, two-run single in the second inning but was thrown out trying to stretch his hit into a double. Three were runs were tacked on in the fifth; the first on a passed ball and the other
on a two-run single by Kellen Sweeney. Sweeney had three hits, two of them doubles, for the only multi-hit game for Lansing. Dwight Smith Jr. singled and walked twice.

Lefty Daniel Norris shaved down his ERA to 8.54 with four shutout innings. His control of the strike zone was iffy with three walks but limited the Loons to one hit and struck out five. His groundout-flyout ratio was 5-1. Chuck Ghysels (2-1) scattered a hit and a walk and struck out a batter over two innings. Ian Kadish whiffed four of the six batters he faced over two perfect frames. Arik Sikula finished up the game in grand style, striking out the side to give Lansing hurlers 13 whiffs on the night.

Boxscores


*** 3 Stars!!! ***

3. Daniel Norris, Lansing

2. Kellen Sweeney, Lansing

1. Mauro Gomez, Buffalo


Wednesday's Probable Starters...

Lansing — Alonzo Gonzalez
(2-2, 6.19) @ Lake County, 11:00 am ET.
Buffalo — Dave Bush (4-2, 3.38) @ Indianapolis, 1:35 pm ET.
New Hampshire — TBA @ Portland, 6:35 pm ET.
Dunedin — Casey Lawrence (2-3, 3.86) @ Fort Myers, 7:05 pm ET.

An MLU Doubleheader | 40 comments | Create New Account
The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
TamRa - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 04:24 AM EDT (#272193) #
so does this mean we should resign ourselves to Stilson as a reliever?
hypobole - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 08:38 AM EDT (#272198) #
Tamra, if I remember correctly at the time of the draft, Stilson had a violent delivery. He would profile best as a reliever otherwise the injury risk would be high. If so, I imagine the Jays would have attempted to smooth out the delivery, but if the violence persists a reliever role would make the most sense.
Gerry - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 09:07 AM EDT (#272200) #
The Jays said over the winter that Stilson was now a reliever.  Stilson went on the DL in July or August last season and when he returned he came out of the bullpen.
Ryan Day - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 09:36 AM EDT (#272201) #
It remains mindboggling that Thole is in AAA and Henry Blanco is in the majors. I could understand it if Thole was some AAAA-vet, a Negrych-type, but he's played 300 games in the majors! He's hit well! He caught R.A. Dickey when he was one of the best pitchers in baseball! At some point, AA got confused. Blanco is the guy you stash at AAA as an emergency backup option, along with Nickeas. I'm fairly confident Blanco would pass through waivers, and even if he doesn't, it's not a huge loss.
hypobole - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 10:08 AM EDT (#272202) #
Not that I disagree with Thole over Blanco, but I believe Blanco can elect free agency as Laffey did. Although the market for his services would be less than substantial I imagine.
85bluejay - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 11:03 AM EDT (#272206) #
Despite what he's saying publicly, Dickey may much prefer pitching to Blanco than Thole  & since the Jays have a huge investment in Dickey, I would think his views hold sway - I know Thole caught Dickey last year but maybe it's something personal.
Mike Green - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 11:12 AM EDT (#272207) #
You'd think that Dickey at some point would realize that Blanco is going to cost him the club a win over a season because he hits so poorly, and change his view.

It seems as though the club is just waiting for an injury to a catcher (either Blanco or Arencibia) to make the inevitable move.  It's not an impressive strategy.
greenfrog - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 11:17 AM EDT (#272208) #
The Jays might be more willing to swap Thole for Blanco if the rest of the roster was in better health. With Reyes injured and Cabrera ailing (and with Gose having yet to get untracked), there is a lack of overall positional player depth. I'm not saying it's a compelling argument, but it might be why AA is biding his time.
Mike Green - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#272210) #
It's not compelling at all, greenfrog.  Blanco is completely and utterly replaceable.  Which wouldn't be a big deal except that Thole is quite a bit better and the Jays' first string catcher, JPA, isn't the sort of player who you want to start 130 games a season.  He has his uses, and is not bad at 90-100 starts a year. 
China fan - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 11:30 AM EDT (#272211) #
There's one further argument for keeping Thole in the minors (and I'm not saying that this is necessarily a compelling reason -- I'm just mentioning it because people are implying that AA is just being stupid about this, when in fact he may have reasons, even if we might disagree with the reasons). The reason is this: if JPA is injured for 6 weeks in the middle of a wild-card race, would you want him to be replaced by a catcher who has mostly been riding the bench? Or would you want him to be replaced by a catcher who has been hitting and catching almost every day? In other words, Thole will be much sharper and ready to step into regular duties if he is playing regularly in the minors, rather than riding the bench in the majors. If you promote him to Toronto and he plays just one game in five for the next two or three months, he might not be ready for full-time duties if JPA is injured in July or August.

Anyway I think this argument is at least worth debating, rather than implying that there cannot be any logical reason for keeping Thole in the minors.
China fan - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 11:38 AM EDT (#272212) #
"....It seems as though the club is just waiting for an injury to a catcher..."

You might dismiss this as an "unimpressive" strategy, but injuries are one of the very predictable things on this team. Some Bauxites have been ridiculing AA for using Jenkins and Ortiz as starting pitchers -- implying that AA should have had a better injury-replacement plan for his rotation. So we attack him for not having adequate pitching depth, but we refuse to give him any credit for having a good catching depth. Isn't there some inconsistency in those criticisms? If we want the starting rotation to have good depth to the level of the 7th and 8th and 9th pitchers, shouldn't we also want good depth to the level of 3rd catcher? Dumping Blanco would leave the Jays with basically 2 catchers and no depth. Fine, until there's an injury.
Paul D - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 11:43 AM EDT (#272213) #
CF, I can kind of see what you're saying, but frankly, it doesn't make any sense. The Jays wouldn't improve their 3B depth by signing some scrub to back up DeRosa at 3B and parking Lawrie at AAA. You send the scrub to AAA and use him if you need him. That's why there's frustration over the Blanco/Thole issue. You could easily find a Blanco equivalent to leave at AAA in case of an injury to either Thole or JP.
China fan - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#272214) #
"...you can easily find a Blanco equivalent....."

Not if you want someone with knuckleball experience. I think you're overestimating the availability of experienced major-league catchers at this stage of the season -- and the total non-availability of experienced knuckleball pitchers if Blanco is dumped and Thole gets injured.

I'm a little surprised that the sabremetricians, sworn enemies of the small sample size, are so furiously condemning Blanco after 29 ABs. Lots of other players look horrible after 29 ABs too. Lots of other Jays have bounced back from a bad streak in a small sample size and did much better over a larger sample. Blanco had an .870 OPS over a bigger sample size in 2011, but apparently that counts for nothing while the much smaller sample size this season is considered the only factor. Anthopolous might legitimately believe that Blanco will get better over a larger number of games.

As I've said before, I'd personally like to see Thole promoted, but I object to people implying that there cannot possibly be any reasons for AA's decision to keep Thole in Buffalo a little longer.

Thomas - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#272215) #
CF, that reasoning just doesn't make any sense. The Jays have prioritized competing this year. And yet AA would choose to cost the team wins by placing an inferior player on the roster (with the compound effect that Mike Green has pointed out that this strategy also leads to Gibbons using JP more, very possibly to the team's detriment over time) when there is a superior player at Triple-A based up on historical record and performance this year in both spring training and the minor leagues? And he would choose to do this because of a hypothetical scenario where JP may suffer an injury and based upon a belief (that I have not read any evidentiary support for) that Thole will be more ready to assume full-time duties if he is playing everyday, despite the fact that he will not have worked with any of the pitchers on the major league roster (aside from occasional rehab outings) for months, whereas he could have been gaining familiarity with them on major league roster? I can't find that argument compelling at all.

And, if anyone is going to question the availability of catchers if Blanco should choose to elect free agency, an example of the catching relatively freely available is Robinson Chirinos, who was sold this year to Texas by Tampa and has been playing in Triple-A. Chirinos may not have the knuckleball experience, but if JP was hurt the Jays found Torrealba last year and I feel confident could find someone like Chirinos this year. And, if Thole was to suffer an injury and Blanco was around and a knuckleball catcher was needed, presumably that's why they acquired Nickeas.
China fan - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 12:07 PM EDT (#272216) #
Good point about Nickeas, I had forgotten about him. But if you review his major-league hitting stats over the past few years, they are far worse than Blanco's stats over the same period.
China fan - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 12:10 PM EDT (#272217) #
"....And yet AA would choose to cost the team wins by placing an inferior player on the roster....."

First, Blanco is "inferior" to Thole only if you excessively value the small sample size of 2013, rather than the larger sample of 2011 and 2012.

Second, exactly which games did the Jays definitely lose because of Blanco this season?
hypobole - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 12:17 PM EDT (#272218) #
I admit I've been hoping AA's hand is forced by some nagging injury to Blanco. However injuries are most often inversely proportional to the crappitude of a players ability or performance.
Mike Green - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 12:20 PM EDT (#272219) #
Blanco is 41 years old.  He's hitting .150 with no pop and no plate control over the last 2 years.   There is no question that from age 36-39, he was a typical back-up catcher. 

Shi Davidi was saying that yesterday on the broadcast that Blanco has a job because he's good in the clubhouse.  In other words, he's this year's Omar Vizquel but with less talent and less history.  Phooey.

China fan - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 12:33 PM EDT (#272220) #
"....He's hitting .150 with no pop...."

In a total of 93 ABs over the past two years. We didn't judge Brett Lawrie on his .176 batting average in his first 91 ABs in 2013, did we?

Anyway I'll quit this subject now. I'm merely suggesting that the case is not quite as open-and-shut as some of us believe.
Ryan Day - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 12:52 PM EDT (#272221) #
I thought Mark DeRosa was this year's Omar Vizquel. He has a huge lead over Blanco in Calling Clubhouse Meetings.

(Of course, DeRosa is actually a useful player this year, perhaps moving him out of the Vizquel/Blanco category.)
Ryan Day - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 01:01 PM EDT (#272222) #
The reason is this: if JPA is injured for 6 weeks in the middle of a wild-card race, would you want him to be replaced by a catcher who has mostly been riding the bench?

There's a flip side to this, though: If JPA is injured and you need a new Starting Catcher, wouldn't you want a guy who's been working with the pitching staff regularly? Thole hasn't seen any of the current starters since spring training, so he'd need some time to get up to speed.

For that matter, you could argue Thole would be better positioned to take over as a starter if he was currently a backup, as he'll have less wear-and-tear that way. While JPA might be wearing down in July/August, Thole would be relatively fresh.
eudaimon - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#272223) #
It might not be an open and shut case, but arguing SSS on Blanco's offensive ineptitude is a bit much. Dude is friggin old, he ain't getting better and he sucked last year too. There's every reason to believe that he's may have gone from run of the mill backup to substandard backup.

That being said I think there's always stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about, not that it always makes sense. As much as people refer to AA as a "fantasy GM" I think he actually gets addicted to intangibles and other things he perceives of as market inefficiencies he can subtley exploit. Maybe he likes the fact that Blanco is like a player-coach. I personally don't think that's a good enough reason to keep him on the team at this point. Other things are possible as well - maybe Josh Thole is a royal A-hole and they want to take him down a notch.

Beyonder - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 01:31 PM EDT (#272224) #
Isn't the most likely explanation that RA has said he is much more comfortable throwing to Blanco than Thole or JPA? Wouldn't that be a good enough reason for you if you were the GM?
ayjackson - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 01:41 PM EDT (#272225) #
So is Anthony Alford in extended ST?
92-93 - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 02:02 PM EDT (#272226) #
"Isn't the most likely explanation that RA has said he is much more comfortable throwing to Blanco than Thole or JPA? Wouldn't that be a good enough reason for you if you were the GM?"

I've espoused that theory before. The discussion shouldn't be about Thole vs. Blanco, it's whether Arencibia deserves 80% of the C starts. If your answer is yes, as it is to AA, then you let Dickey choose who he wants to throw to. Feel free to disagree with that sentiment but I've been reading a lot on Thole the last few days from Mets blogs and nobody seemed too enamored with him and his defense actually has a horrendous reputation as well.

What I wouldn't mind seeing is Thole taking Storey's place on the roster. This would allow you to play Arencibia at DH more often.
China fan - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 02:12 PM EDT (#272227) #
"....Dude is friggin old, he ain't getting better and he sucked last year too...."

All of this applies equally to Mark DeRosa, who has sucked for the last THREE consecutive seasons (2010 to 2012) and is an elderly 38 years old. After 40 PAs (more than Blanco currently has), he was batting a miserable .152 and everyone was saying, "Dump the bum, he ain't getting better, promote Jim Negrych". Today his OPS is up to .765 and not a single Bauxite objected when he was batting clean-up yesterday. (Check the thread.)

So was DeRosa as bad as he looked after 40 PAs? Probably not. Is he as good as his numbers appear today after 63 PAs? Probably not. The truth is somewhere in between, but I wouldn't put a huge amount of stock in any of these SSS numbers, including Blanco's.

Just to repeat: I agree with everyone who says Thole will probably hit better than Blanco in the majors. But other factors are probably at work, including defensive factors and knuckleball factors and other factors, and we don't know all of them. And I'm not sure if Thole's offensive edge over Blanco will be large enough to outweigh every other factor which might be at work.

Oddly enough, I haven't seen a single quote from Anthopoulos and Gibbons on the Thole/Dickey issue, and I'd be interested to see their answers to the question, because they might mention factors that we're totally unaware of.
katman - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 02:14 PM EDT (#272228) #
Schwimmer pitching well first outing, McGowan in real competition and doing OK, Wagner not only notching a strikeout, but breaking 100 on the radar gun (and at 25 K / 7 BB in 15 IP).

We need to improve AAA's starting pitching for their own sake, as well as ours, but other than that, nice to see some positive signs from people who could help the Jays in 2013.

Oceanbound - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 02:21 PM EDT (#272229) #
You know, you can argue that Henry Blanco doesn't have to be kicked off the team while also simultaneously admitting that he's a terrible, terrible batter. These things are not mutually exclusive. It's not some SSS magic here, he's actually really bad at hitting.
TamRa - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 02:36 PM EDT (#272230) #
The Jays said over the winter that Stilson was now a reliever.

I thought I remembered that.

  Stilson went on the DL in July or August last season and when he returned he came out of the bullpen.

Wasn't sure if that was just an innings limit thing.

I kind of figured he would end up in relief eventually, but my curiosity was how long they would keep him starting in the event of an urgent situation like the last couple of years. It's kind of too bad though, to have a top end guy like him (before the injury that dropped his status)  doomed to relief AND a first rounder in Stroman which everyone assumes will eventually be in the pen. Teams seem reluctant to intigrate too many young guys into a bullpen at once.

Mike Green - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 03:25 PM EDT (#272231) #
CF, I had an exclamation point after DeRosa's name in the cleanup slot in the lineup I posted.  It was a very poor choice.  Nonetheless, there were reasons to believe that DeRosa might not be done as a hitter, even if he never ought to be your second baseman/cleanup hitter.  He had done very well in spring training in 2012, and then had been hurt.  DeRosa was at one time a solid major league hitter and a normal aging curve would have him be a useful spare part at his present age.  That is what has happened.  Blanco was never an everyday catcher.  These guys are usually out of baseball at the first sign that they have lost the ability to hit. 

MatO - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 04:36 PM EDT (#272233) #
I don't know what intangibles Blanco brings.  What I do know is that Thole was Dickey's main catcher for the period in his career when Dickey was really, really good  and I find it strange that the Jays would ignore that success and also make the team worse offensively.
James W - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 04:43 PM EDT (#272234) #
Mike Wilner was asked this last night, and he believes the Jays don't want to use Thole as a once-or-twice every 5 days type. For now, they'd like him getting more regular at bats.

If you want to argue that Thole's better than Arencibia, I will not put up a fight at all. But it seems the team is happy enough with Blanco as Dickey's catcher, and Arencibia catching most of the other games.
finch - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 08:18 PM EDT (#272238) #
Random observations...

The Jays have no qualms about promoting high school bat Shane Optiz fairly quickly. He's played well at Lansing this year. Seems to be adjusted to High A. What's the ceiling as a prospect?
Alex Obal - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 08:24 PM EDT (#272239) #
Mike Wilner was asked this last night, and he believes the Jays don't want to use Thole as a once-or-twice every 5 days type. For now, they'd like him getting more regular at bats.

As you point out, there's a pretty easy solution to this problem which involves Thole starting 4 or 5 times a week and makes the big-league club better...
Mike Green - Wednesday, May 15 2013 @ 08:52 PM EDT (#272241) #
Deck McGuire had a nice outing for New Hampshire tonight- 6 IP, 2 walks, 8 strikeouts.  If he does that for a month or so, the club may have another option. 
cybercavalier - Thursday, May 16 2013 @ 12:37 AM EDT (#272252) #
Probably just my speculations, Thole starting 4 or 5 times a week means JPA a part time catcher. As AA traded TDA instead of JPA during the past offseason, putting JPA as a part time catcher doesn't look good of AA's resume of player transactions.
Ryan Day - Thursday, May 16 2013 @ 09:56 AM EDT (#272255) #
the Jays don't want to use Thole as a once-or-twice every 5 days type. For now, they'd like him getting more regular at bats.

This actually seems weirder than arguing that Henry Blanco has some sort of magical catching mojo. If the Jays want Thole to get regular playing time, and they want JPA to be their regular starting catcher, why did they acquire Thole and sign him to an extension? Why are they paying a guy $1.25 million to catch in AAA? Why is he even on the 40-man roster if he's not good enough to be the backup catcher for a team that thinks JPA is good enough to be the starting catcher?
Gerry - Thursday, May 16 2013 @ 10:48 AM EDT (#272259) #

finch:

I don't think the Jays see Opitz as a prospect.  I saw Opitz play last year in Lansing and I thought he was a decent player.  But the Jays only gave him 300 AB's last season and he was on and off the phantom DL a few times.  Of course he did have a sub 600 OPS the last two seasons.

He is 21 now and hitting well.  On one hand it is only 60 AB's but on the other hand he is 21 now and sometimes players don't show their true self until they turn 20 or 21.

Assuming the Jays player development people know what they are doing I wouldn't get your hopes up.  Opitz is on the Dunedin roster now.  They have Berti, Mooney and Burns in the infield.  If Opitz gets regular playing time then the Jays opinion of him is picking up.  If he is a bench player then their opinion hasn't changed.  The Jays will give AB's to their priority players.

China fan - Thursday, May 16 2013 @ 02:38 PM EDT (#272274) #
"....Why are they paying a guy $1.25 million to catch in AAA? ...."

Clearly they are not. And that's why I've been saying, for a while, that he will be promoted at some point reasonably soon.

There's one additional factor that I haven't seen mentioned in the debate so far. Thole suffered a concussion last season, and hit terribly for the remainder of the season, with an OBP of .285 and a SLG of .275 after the injury. Isn't it possible that Anthpoulos wants Thole to build up a sustained period of excellence in the minors to build his confidence and be sure of his hitting sharpness before promoting him to what could be a key role for the Jays if JPA continues to be unable to get on base?
bpoz - Friday, May 17 2013 @ 12:26 PM EDT (#272315) #
I am cheering for Dunedin to earn a 1st half playoff position.
An MLU Doubleheader | 40 comments | Create New Account
The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.