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Vancouver took a beating while Eugene won, putting the Canadians a half game behind in their playoff race.   Las Vegas stayed mathematically alive thanks to Anthony Gose and Yan Gomes.  Their elimination number is one.  Bluefield lost their final game of the season.  New Hampshire lost in extra innings, Lansing also lost while Dunedin swept both ends of a doubleheader from the Yankees Tampa team.  Casey Lawrence pitched a complete game to win game one.  In game two Dunedin won 1-0 with new Jay Amadeo Zuzueta driving in the only run.

Playoff Situation

In: Dunedin and Lansing

Still competing:  Vancouver and Las Vegas (barely)

Out: New Hampshire, Bluefield and the GCL Jays



Tacoma 5  Las Vegas 6 

Anthony Gose scored three runs and Yan Gomes drove in three in a close game in the sin city last night.  Gose doubled to lead off the bottom of the first and scored on a single by Ricardo Nanita.  After Tacoma tied the game in the third Gose singled to start the bottom of the third.  Jon Diaz doubled him to third and Gomes scored both with a single.  Gose and Gomes both doubled in the fifth to give the 51's a three run lead.  However Clint Everts gave all three runs back in the sixth to tie the game.   In the bottom of the sixth Danny Perales, Brian Bocock and Diaz doubled to put Las Vegas up by two.  Former Jay Guillermo Quiroz homered in the seventh to make it a one run game. 

Shawn Hill was the starter and only gave up one run in five innings despite allowing nine hits and two walks.  Gose had three hits, Gomes, Diaz and Perales had two each.

 

Portland 9 New Hampshire 3 - 12 innings

The game was tied at three in the middle of the third inning and it stayed that way for eight more innings.  The Fisher Cats scored one run in the second inning, Ryan Schimpf doubled in Ryan Goins. In the third Jake Marisnick tripled in a run and scored when Goins singled. For Portland, Mike MacDonald, who has started for the Jays in the past, pitched seven shutout innings in relief. The starter for Portland was Allen Webster who just came over to Boston in the big trade with the Dodgers.

Ryan Tepera started and pitched five innings. Michael Dubee, Joel Carreno and Trystan Magnuson held Portland at bay for seven innings. John Stilson pitched the twelfth and gave up six runs. He did give up several hits but his error and a liner that ticked off Ryan Goins glove made the difference.

Marisnick, Goins and Schimpf had two hits each.

 

Tampa 1 Dunedin 5 - game 1

Casey Lawrence was the story in this game, he pitched a complete game, seven innings in a doubleheader, with just four hits allowed.

Marcus Knecht led the team with two hits and two RBI's. He drove in the first and fourth runs. The Jays big inning was the third when they scored three runs. Doubles by Oliver Dominguez and Kevin Pillar got it started. Jon Berti tripled and scored the fifth run.

 

Tampa 0 Dunedin 1 - game 2

Amadeo Zuzueta singled in the games only run. Zazueta is a new sign by the Blue Jays, he has played in the PCL this year, just not successfully. Frank Gailey got the spot start and went four innings. One measure of how much the Jays wanted to win this game is that Danny Barnes came on in the sixth to get a four out save.

 

Fort Wayne 7 Lansing 6

Anthony DeSclafani was teeing them up, he gave up nine hits and four runs in 4 plus innings. Blake McFarland didn't fare any better, he gave up six hits and three runs in 2.2 innings.

Lansing did jump out to a 5-1 lead before the walls fell in. Shane Opitz doubled in a run and scored another in a two run second inning. In the third KC Hobson singled in two more runs including Chris Hawkins who had doubled. Chris Peters walked, stole a base and scored the fifth run when Chris Schaeffer singled. Nick Baligod homered in the ninth but it wasn't enough. The Lugnuts were outhit 18-7. Hawkins and Hobson had two hits each.

 

Vancouver 1  Yakima 9 

This was a bad loss for the Canadians while their competition, the Eugene Emeralds scored two runs in the tenth to win their game and put Vancouver a half game behind in the playoff chase.  Vancouver were down 7-0 in the second inning and the hitters could only manage three hits.  Ben White started and obviously took the loss. 

Matt Newman had two of the three hits.  DJ Davis, Christian Lopes, Dwight Smith and Santiago Nessy were hitless.  The Jays are throwing their kids into the playoff race,  It might cost them a playoff spot but playoff chase experience might equal actual playoff experience in the minds of the Jays front office.

 

Bluefield 2 Greeneville 5

This was not a good end to the season for the Jays.  Justin James gave up five runs in two plus innings and the Jays couldn't come back. The bullpen did a good job in holding it at 5.

The Jays were held off the scoreboard until the eighth. Jacob Anderson and Jordan Leyland hit back to back doubles. Leyland scored on a ground out. Christian Frias, Anderson and Hector Alvarez had two hits each.

 

3 Stars

3rd star: Yan Gomes

2nd star: Anthony Gose 

1st star: Casey Lawrence

 

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ayjackson - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 02:53 PM EDT (#262809) #
Marisnick, Goins and Pillar have been named to the Arizona Fall League so far.  Four pitchers due are TBA.
China fan - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 02:56 PM EDT (#262810) #
No surprise on Marisnick, but a nice reward for Goins and Pillar after good seasons by both. And a possible hint that the Jays see them as having major-league futures.
Gerry - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 03:04 PM EDT (#262811) #
No Travis d'Arnaud on the roster, yet.  Not a good sign.
jester00 - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 03:07 PM EDT (#262813) #
Agree Gerry, was really hoping to see him on the roster.  Disappointing.  Anyone care to speculate on who the pitchers will be?
Gerry - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 03:29 PM EDT (#262818) #
The first place you look for AFL pitchers is AA level pitchers who were injured during the year.  Off the top of my head I can think of Matt Wright, Ryan Tepera, Randy Boone, Alan Farina, Sean Nolin and Trystan Magnuson.  I could also see Sam Dyson getting the call for the experience.
Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 03:44 PM EDT (#262820) #
I don't think d'Arnaud is eligible to play in the AFL after being on the DL for most of the season. From the AFL site: "To be eligible, players on Minor League disabled lists must be activated at least 45 days before the conclusion of their respective seasons."
Lugnut Fan - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 03:53 PM EDT (#262821) #
It was also reported by the Peoria Chiefs of the MWL that Pillar won the MWL MVP and John Tamargo Jr. was named manager of the year as well.
vw_fan17 - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 04:55 PM EDT (#262823) #
For those curious (as I was):

Las Vegas 51s are 5.5 back with 6 games left for both teams (must be a rainout somewhere.. 51s have  played one less than Sacramento).
The two teams do not play each other. Looks pretty bleak for the 51s..

TamRa - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 05:52 PM EDT (#262824) #
The rules:

Each Major League organization is required to provide six players subject to the following requirements:

  • All Triple-A and Double-A players are eligible, provided the players are on at least a Double-A level roster no later than Aug. 1.
  • One player below the Double-A level is allowed per Major League team.
  • One foreign player is allowed, as long as the player does not reside in a country that participates in winter ball, as part of the Caribbean Confederation or the Australian winter league.
  • No players with more than one year of credited Major League service as of August 31 are eligible, except a team may select one player picked in the most recently concluded Major League Rule 5 Draft.
  • To be eligible, players on Minor League disabled lists must be activated at least 45 days before the conclusion of their respective seasons.


I don't think Nolin was promoted to AA in time. You can only have one player not in AA by Aug 1 and that's Pillar.

Matt Wright would be an ideal candidate but he was injured still on July 21 (players must be off the DL 45 days before the end of the season)  and was assigned to Dunedin after he got off the DL. Another good candidate would have been John Stilson but he was also on the DL during the last 45 days of the season (the same problem held back McGuire last year). Stilson was probably running out of innings anyway.

Potential AFL pitchers, that (I think) meet all the requirements:

David Carpenter
Evan Crawford
Sam Dyson (although he might be running out of gas?)
Deck McGuire (if they think continued work would help)
Trystan Magnuson (albeit he's old for the AFL)
Ryan Tepera (would just be filler)


Gerry - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 07:26 PM EDT (#262827) #
I am not sure of the exact meaning of the 45 day rule. There have been a lot of previously injured pitchers assigned to the AFL. I have no idea if this is true but the only meaning that makes sense to me is that if a player is on the DL at the start of the season he must come off the DL within 45 days of the end of the season.

Imagine a pitcher who has pitched all year, gets injured for two weeks from July 10 to July 20, and then is back until the end of the season. Why should he be ineligible?

I also note that the Jays have said they hoped d'Arnaud would be ready for the AFL so I assume they know he could be on the roster.

I see from BA that Toronto has a catcher position to fill. I assume they are waiting for d'Arnaud (could that be a play?) or else it's likely Ochinko.
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 09:04 PM EDT (#262835) #
waiting for d'Arnaud (could that be a play?)

Good catch, Gerry.
Chuck - Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 10:58 PM EDT (#262840) #
Had Vladimir Guerrero made the Jays, he'd have gladly waiting for D'Arnaud.
Dewey - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 12:08 PM EDT (#262871) #
Waiting for D'Arnaud  !

One of the very best to appear on Da Box, Gerry.  As others have said, nicely done.



Gerry - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 03:04 PM EDT (#262896) #

As I thought Ryan Tepera is headed to the AFL, based on a tweet of his.

Bob Elliott has a nice story on the three Lugnut stud pitchers.  This quote sums it up nicely:

“Ask a Toronto scout which of the three is the best and he’ll tell you it’s this guy. Then, he’ll go to Lansing and the next time you see him, he gives you a different answer. These are guys who hav been scouting for 40 years. ......”

— National League pro scout.

Mike Green - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#262897) #
Surely, after this season, no one would be counting the days until all three are in Toronto.  The pitching prospect equivalent of "youneverknow" is "ulnarcollaterallabrum".
Beyonder - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 04:22 PM EDT (#262902) #
Not that I want to rush anyone, but is there any reason to think that a young pitcher can't tear their UCL as easily at AA or AAA as in the majors?
Beyonder - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 04:25 PM EDT (#262903) #
Sitting here today in front of the computer, I felt old for the very first time after reading this in the Elliot story:

"Nicolino was born in Alliance, Ohio at 5:15 p.m., on Nov. 22, 1991, 42 days after Jays lefty Jimmy Key held the Minnesota Twins to two runs in six innings of Game 3 of the American League Championship Series."
Mike Green - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#262904) #
Not that I want to rush anyone, but is there any reason to think that a young pitcher can't tear their UCL as easily at AA or AAA as in the majors?

I don't know if there is any science to this, but I would guess that if you took a series matched pitchers of the same age (let's say 22) starting in double A and starting in the majors, the ones in the majors would be more likely to end up with a UCL tear and surgery for a couple of reasons.  Firstly, the AA season is shorter which means less likelihood of a seasonal innings jump.  Secondly, the competition is tougher in the majors which means a greater likelihood of pitchers attempting to throw pitches which are tough on the arm.  I think of Marcum and Hutchison as possible instances of this. 

It would be a bit tricky to design the study because the 22 year old in the major leagues is much more likely to have been drafted out of high school whereas the 22 year old in double A is probably more likely to have been drafted out of college.  You could control for that, and you would probably want to control for effectiveness as well.
Hodgie - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 04:43 PM EDT (#262906) #
"Surely, after this season, no one would be counting the days until all three are in Toronto."

Certainly not I. I do not even know what day the 2014 season opens on yet.

greenfrog - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 05:06 PM EDT (#262910) #
It is pretty nice to have those three arms stashed away in Lansing. I still feel the most likely path to success for the Jays is to build from within (in any event, I don't see them spending $150M+ on someone like Greinke).

Pitching is an obvious strength in the Jays' system. It would be great to see the team assemble a deep and talented homegrown pitching staff, a la TB. Sanchez, Syndergaard, Nicolino, Smoral, Osuna, Norris, Cardona, DeJong, Tirado - there are a lot of interesting pitchers being groomed as starters in the lower levels (of course, at that stage of development, they're still pretty much lottery tickets).
bpoz - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 05:46 PM EDT (#262912) #
Nice list Greenfrog. They are all quite young. However some of the Lansing 3 could do well enough in Dunedin to get to AA next year. So a call up some time in 2014 is a possibility. IMO their arms will still be babied next year. I will just wait & see how the FO handles them. Hopefully they are all healthy.

Oakland... Hudson, Mulder & Zito. But Harden had injuries.
TamRa - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 09:32 PM EDT (#262917) #
the thing about trying to be restrained on hoping for the arrival of the "big three" is that it's not just those three.

Arrange the realisticly possible guys - those who have a chance to be, say, at least #3 quality - in chronological order instead of by ceiling.

(this is not to say guys can't step up or back such that the change which "class" they fall into)


Here: Morrow, Romero, Happ
Here but disabled: McGowan, Hutchison, Drabek
High minors: McGuire, Jenkins (as a starter), Stilson, Nolin
Low-minors: Sanchez, Syndergaard, Nicolino
Short-season: Osuna, Norris, Tirado, DelRosario, labourt, Cardona
first year: Stroman, DeJong, Gonzales, DeJong


and this doesn't include guys some might argue that are that good - Biggs, for instance, or Boruki or Tinoco...but might include guys that aren't that good (Jenkins obviously)


but the point is that over the next five years, you are looking at around 20 candidates for a five man rotation and that's not even discussing the fringy Cecil-types. If only 1 in 4 reach their ceiling that's a quality home-grown rotation.

Of course, maybe they fail at an even higher rate than that...but i agree that there's probably more value in that than in someone like Grinke.

In terms of building a championship squad of course. That doesn't mean there's not value in rotation filler in the mean time.

Gerry - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 09:36 PM EDT (#262918) #
From the dome tonight.... d'Arnaud is recovering but not well enough yet to catch every day. The Jays say he will not be ready for the AFL. Could he make the last couple of weeks, we don't know?
Gerry - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 09:41 PM EDT (#262919) #
Sean Nolin is passing the AA test, so far. Tonight was his third AA start and this one with AA watching. Tonight he pitched a six inning two hitter, with seven K's.
TamRa - Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 11:34 PM EDT (#262921) #
Cecil came out ofthe Vegas game after one batter in the 4th, despite having thrown three shutout innings - anyone know why?
ComebyDeanChance - Friday, August 31 2012 @ 12:34 AM EDT (#262922) #
He was ejected.
ogator - Friday, August 31 2012 @ 07:25 AM EDT (#262929) #
Sean Nolin has striking (maybe striking out is more apropos) minor league statistics. How good is he? What is his ceiling? How close is he?
finch - Friday, August 31 2012 @ 10:27 AM EDT (#262931) #

TamRa, I think you meant Smoral rather than DeJong twice.

I think that between those aforementioned starters, we have to potential to find 5 #2 type starters.

Anyone else think Roberto Osuna is the second coming of King Felix?

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