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It was a 4-3 night on the farm even though no affiliate could get more than seven hits. Two of the affiliates who won were outhit by their opponents and one had the same number of hits.  It was timely hitting that won games for the affiliates.  New Hampshire won 3-2, Ryan Goins scored two and drove in a third run.  For Bluefield Seth Conner drove in four runs with two of the Jays six hits.  Kevin Ahrens hit a three run home run for Dunedin.

Pitching also was key in the wins, Ryan Tepera, Marcus Walden, Taylor Cole and Kevin Comer all pitched well.  Cole was the best with six shutout innings.  Cole was followed by Marcus Stroman who pitched two perfect innings.  For the losing teams Noah Syndergaard was hit around a bit, while Bill Murphy and Jairo Labourt had forgettable days.



Salt Lake 8 Las Vegas 0

A depleted Las Vegas lineup could only get three hits against Barry Enright who pitched a complete game for Salt Lake. Cooper, Sierra, Gomes and Gose are with the Jays, Thames and Snider were traded, and Hechavarria was out of the lineup.  Keenan Bailli and Mike McDade were each 0-3 in their AAA debuts.

Bill Murphy started and was tagged for six runs in 5.1 innings.

 

Erie 2  New Hampshire 3

This was a tight game, obviously, the Fisher Cats needed three shutout innings from the bullpen to win it. Ryan Tepera started and pitched into the sixth inning, he had six K's and seven hits allowed.

Erie outhit New Hampshire 10-7. Ryan Goins was involved in all three runs. In the first inning Goins doubled and Kevin Howard singled him home. In the third Goins singled in John Tolisano who also had singled. In the fifth Goins scored the third run when Brad Glenn doubled. Goins was the only Jay with two hits.

 

Dunedin 7 Palm Beach 3

Dunedin led 6-0 in the middle of the second and that was it. The big blow was a three run home run by Kevin Ahrens. The two runs in the second inning came on three singles and a sac fly. The Jays had only one hit after the second inning, an RBI double by Kevin Pillar. Both teams had seven hits, Kenny Wilson had two for the good guys.

Marcus Walden has been on fire since shortly after he was promoted from Lansing. Walden allowed eight earned runs in his first two starts for Dunedin, since then he has allowed nine earned runs in six starts. Walden is a shorter righty who throws hard and whose pitches have good movement. AA will be the big test for Walden but he could end up as a major league reliever.

 

Lansing 4  Dayton 5

Lansing had the lead but Dayton chipped away with a run in each inning from the fourth to the seventh. The run in the seventh came on a bases loaded walk in a tied game, Shawn Griffith was the offending pitcher. Noah Syndergaard let up seven hits in 4.2 innings, he had only one 1-2-3 inning and was working in trouble most of the night. He was charged with three runs.

Chris Peters has been on fire since his promotion to Lansing, he had three hits and scored two runs in this game. KC Hobson and Kipp Schutz had two hits each.

 

Salem-Keizer 2  Vancouver 3

Taylor Cole continued to dominate the Northwest League. Cole pitched six shutout innings and lowered his ERA to 0.30. Marcus Stroman pitched two perfect innings with 3 K's.

Vancouver scored twice in the fourth inning to take the lead. Ian Parmley doubled, Matt Newman singled him in and later Art Charles singled in Newman. Vancouver made it 3-0 in the fifth when Carlos Ramirez led off with a triple and scored on a single from Daniel Arcila. Salem-Keizer scored twice in the ninth and starter Eric Brown came on to get the last out and the save. Vancouver had seven hits, no hitter had two.

 

Greeneville 1 Bluefield 5

Seth Conner was the man for Bluefield, he doubled in two runs in the first and singled in two runs in the third. Dwight Smith also had two hits for the Jays who were outhit 9-6.

Kevin Comer fell just short of the win, he pitched 4.2 innings but gave up eight hits so he was pulled before the could finish the fifth.

 

GCL Braves 5  GCL Blue Jays 1

The Jays were down 5-0 in the middle of the second inning and that was the ball game.  Jairo Labourt started but he didn't get out of the second although two errors made three of the runs unearned. 

The Jays only run came on a home run by Emilio Guerrero. The Jays had only four hits.

 

Three Stars

3rd star: Taylor Cole

2nd star: Seth Conner

1st star: Ryan Goins

 

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Mike Green - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 09:23 AM EDT (#261575) #
I know that there are at least one or two others here who are Pillar fans, but you can add me to the list.  He is obviously a longshot- a 32nd round draft who is in the FSL at age 23.  His assets are pretty clear- very good plate control, enough pop to keep a pitcher honest, very good speed while knowing how to use it and can play centerfield.  Right now, he's on the Reed Johnson schedule. 
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 09:42 AM EDT (#261576) #
Incidentally, the Dragons tried to run on Syndergaard a lot last night.  Five stolen base attempts in four innings, but they succeeded in only two of them.  Whether this approach contributed to Syndergaard's off night (for him) is an interesting question.
stevieboy22 - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 09:59 AM EDT (#261578) #
At what point does a guy like Pillar become a legitimate prospect? Is he one now? Or will it not be until he does these things at AA?
finch - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 10:15 AM EDT (#261579) #
Although I don't have the statistical analysis right now to back up my thoughts, but does Kenny Wilson creep back into the top 30 prospects?

It seemed like he always has hit in the low .200s and has given up on switch hitting, he has his average near .300 and has been on a hot streak for more than a few weeks now. He won't wow you with OPS but if he can get singles, get on base, steal a few bases while provide speed in the outfield, he'll eventually find a spot on a MLB roster.

Drafted in 08 out of high school...had he been drafted out of college, this would be his 2nd year of pro ball. He has me optimistic that he has figured something out.
Gerry - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 11:05 AM EDT (#261582) #

Pillar is a right handed outfield prospect.  Pillar is probably not a full time centrefielder so he has to fit into left or right.  To be a prospect there, as a right handed bat, you need to have big power.  Pillar is unlikely to be that guy, as I said in my Lansing scouting report back in May, and as Mike mentioned above, Pillar is more of a Reed Johnson type, a good average hitter who can play all three outfield positions, and who will hit a lot of line drives.  Pillar could fit into the top 30 list but if he does it would be in the back 10 for me.

Wilson has been between Lansing and Dunedin for three years now and while this is his first full year of not being a switch hitter, I don't see him making the top 30.  He has played better this season but not good enough yet.  As a true centrefielder he has a lower offensive bar than Pillar but to me he still has a ways to go to get back into the top 30.

Lugnut Fan - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 11:37 AM EDT (#261585) #

Gerry is dead on with his assessment of both Pillar and Wilson.  Pillar is a better fit for a corner outfield position, but probably profiles best as a #2 hitter in a line up.  He has an inside out swing that lets him spray the ball into the gaps and he will and should hit for a high average.  He probably profiles as a fourth outfielder ultimately.  He has hit everywhere though.  He had a 54 game hitting streak in college.

I think Wilson is playing better this year becasue I think he is healthy for the first time.  I talked to him earlier in the season and he said that he hurt his shoulder in his first year of pro ball in the GCL and was afraid to tell anyone.  He also said that when he had surgery on his shoulder last year, it was kind of a blessing because it had hampered him in the past.  Overall though, I think he has been passed prospect wise by others in the system however.

Denoit - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 12:15 PM EDT (#261595) #
Marcus Stroman may be on the move to AA
He first tweeted how much he loved Vancouver, then he tweeted to Deck McGuire See you soon brah!

TamRa - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 02:11 PM EDT (#261611) #
after his 10 inning streak it only made sense they would move him soon.  I don't know if he has the word or if it's an anticipation thing but he can't do more than he's done there.

I like the Johnson comp for Pillar, although in this system I don't think that necessarily makes him a Top 30 guy.

I don't have Wilson even in the Top 50, personally. To rebuild his standing he needs to be "Wow!" not just "hey, he's pretty okay"

Gerry - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#261615) #

I thought the Jays would have sent Stroman to Dunedin.  Dunedin are in the playoffs and having Stroman pitch in the playoffs would be good experience.  New Hampshire are just playing out the string.

Although it has been discussed I don't know why the Jays would promote Stroman to the major leagues this year.  He would use a 40 man roster spot that the Jays could use on someone else.

sam - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 03:05 PM EDT (#261617) #
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2012/08/01/blue_jays_marcus_stroman_interview/

Davidi is normally pretty good at tempering prospect overstatement, but this last piece on Stroman perhaps pushes Davidi closer to the Mike Wilner school of baseball punditry than an informed and accurate journalist. "High-90s heat with command," is really out there and downright not true for Stroman. He touches the high-90s with command as much as Jason Frasor does. Even that might be an overstatement. In the two innings I saw, he was 91-93 for the most part and hit 95 once on the Vancouver Canadians scoreboard radar gun. The slider is the real pitch to get excited about, not the velocity.
uglyone - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 03:16 PM EDT (#261619) #
Baseball Prospectus' (Kevin Goldstein's) midseason top-50:

C T.D'Arnaud #8 (up from #16)
RHP A.Sanchez #26 (up from N/R)
LHP D.Norris #41 (up from #54)
CF A.Gose #42 (up from #68)
CF J.Marisnick N/R (down from #28)
Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 03:31 PM EDT (#261620) #
I always wonder about these sorts of lists when someone like Norris gets bumped up 13 spots after pitching 25 so-so innings.I don't think Norris is disappointing in any way, but I also don't see how he's a better prospect than he was 6 months ago.
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 03:39 PM EDT (#261621) #
Goldstein's list is as of today.  It is a bit strange to rate Sanchez ahead of Syndergaard at this point.  Sanchez is 20 years old in the Midwest League and once pushed to five innings, his control issues have resurfaced with a vengeance.  He does look like he's on pace to be a dominant closer.  I guess that it's the whole stuff vs. performance issue.
85bluejay - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 03:48 PM EDT (#261622) #

Promoting Stroman to the ML in September only made sense if the Jays were in a playoff race, otherwise I think it's a poor use of a 40 man spot as Gerry said, especially with all those players on the 60 days DL having to be put back on the 40 man roster.

It's not that Norris ( or other prospects) has been brilliant but many prospects higher than Norris have graduated and of course some have disappointed.

92-93 - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 04:08 PM EDT (#261624) #
Very lazy comp. Marte & Wood were top prospects, no doubt, but they never showed the ability to hit as even average MLBers, and neither's defensive reputation was anything special. Snider, on the other hand, has already flashed that upside and is considered an average corner OF by people being critical of his defense.
Anders - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 04:13 PM EDT (#261626) #
It is a bit strange to rate Sanchez ahead of Syndergaard at this point. Sanchez is 20 years old in the Midwest League and once pushed to five innings, his control issues have resurfaced with a vengeance. He does look like he's on pace to be a dominant closer. I guess that it's the whole stuff vs. performance issue.

I think this is pretty much universal amongst the prospect cognoscenti, owing mostly to Syndergaard's breaking stuff.

neurolaw - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 05:47 PM EDT (#261631) #
Sam,

I remember seeing your scouting report on Stroman, but from the multiple reports I read on him it sounded like he threw harder than that in relief but was at 92-94 when he started and his FB was a plus pitch. So I was surprised at his velocity and the lack of life on his FB. Is it possible that he is fatigued?

Nonetheless I think he probably sits at 91-93 as a starter with an excellent slider. That's a good start for me.
sam - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 06:25 PM EDT (#261633) #
I agree with what you're saying. People casually throw around "plus" when referencing his fastball. Yes, if you follow BA's guidelines, velocity wise it is a plus fastball. However, there's perhaps not the deception or explosiveness to the pitch that would make it a true plus pitch. I expressed some concern with the plane he throws it on. I tend to think that he does not generate much of a downward angle with it or variance to the pitch that might yield HRs in his career. I think he's tired as well as he's now probably approaching 120 innings across several levels of baseball this year.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2012/08/blue-jays-void-contract-of-venezuelan-shortstop-luis-castro-over-physical/

The Blue Jays seem to have an additional $800,000 to play with now on the IFA scene. As is often the case with players who fail a physical, they tend to sign at a significantly reduced amount. The Jays could sign Castro and then use the rest of the money on a pop-up prospect before next signing window opens.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2012/07/top-20-international-prospects-tracker/
ComebyDeanChance - Wednesday, August 01 2012 @ 07:32 PM EDT (#261636) #
Sam, you're obviously knowledgable about this stuff, and of course you were of great help to us during the draft. Would it be inappropriate to ask whether you're connected to the game? If it's an inappropriate question I apologize.
TamRa - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 04:21 AM EDT (#261638) #
Sanchez is 20 years old in the Midwest League and once pushed to five innings, his control issues have resurfaced with a vengeance.

No.

He went to 5 IP om June 26 and walked 1
on July 1 in 5 IP he walked 1
On July 6 he walked 1 through the first 5 IP (and then 3 in the sixth)
the next three starts he didn't last 5 IP -
-July 12, first bad start of the year, 2 out single followed by a homer in the first, lead-off homer in the second followed  by 2 walks (a lot of pitchers would be shakey in that situation;
-July 19 (six days rest) lead off walk>passed ball>SB puts a runner on third, then with 2 outs he gives up three straight hits to plate 3 runs. He walked another in the third but gave up no more runs and it's not clear why they took him out after 3 IP unless it was a pitch count;
-July 25, he threw 4.1 innings. Walked five. One in the first, one in the fourth, and thre consecutive in the fifth.
His most recent game he pitched 5 innings and walked 1 (his Ks were down)

he was also placed on the DL today (yesterday?) so their might be a backstory here - Gerry might ask a question or two...

I just don't know that it's obvious that there's a causational relationship between going to 5 IP and the control issue reappearing. that seems like a massive leap of assumption to me.

fatigue wouldn't be an issue in the two short starts, he didn't walk but one in three starts going five IP, that leaves you with two games, one where he came apart in the fifth and one in the sixth. How could you possibly draw any inference from THAT?

ayjackson - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 08:54 AM EDT (#261640) #
Agree with Tamra on Sanchez. He may have a dead arm, though, which could be related to the shift to 5 innings, but there's no evidence that he doesn't have the stamina to throw 75 pitches.

On Goldstein's list, it's not a stat competition, it's based on scouting, projection and results. Scouts seem to be very high on Sanchez and Norris and the results to date (low A, very young) have been nuetral at worst.

I said after last year that you could probably throw a blanket over the Lansing three in terms of their ranking. Results will be more important in high minors and then they may start separating themselves.
Mike Green - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 12:11 PM EDT (#261653) #
He may have a dead arm, though, which could be related to the shift to 5 innings, but there's no evidence that he doesn't have the stamina to throw 75 pitches.

I don't quite understand this sentence.  Perhaps the best thing is to wait for the DL report (crossing our fingers).
ayjackson - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 12:19 PM EDT (#261656) #

I think stamina within a game is different from mid-season fatigue.

Denoit - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 12:41 PM EDT (#261662) #
If Stroman is promoted its not just for this year, it's because A) They feel he is ready. A college pitcher with the best stuff in the draft probably needs to be challenged. B) because they are looking to get him some experience for next year so they know what they have. This teams pitching depth has been a disaster, they need to know whether he is a legitamate option going into next year. I have no problems with them bringing him up. No sense holding someone back just because..
ayjackson - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 01:28 PM EDT (#261677) #
With Stroman, I think they are a) challenging him b) keeping him stretched out and c) building his innings.  I expect next year they will try him as a starter in the minors, maybe even in Dunedin.
sam - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 01:34 PM EDT (#261681) #
Sorry to get back to you so late, ComebyDeanChance. I'm unaffiliated with the game or any club. However, I was lucky to play for a well respected professional scout as an amateur and crossed paths with a number of very good "baseball" people. Because I was never really good enough to get a serious look in the draft I was always eager to pick these people's brains and listened intently as they described the game and what they looked for in a prospect. I've also been fortunate to know a number of guys who have gone and going through the Minor Leagues. I'd like to think how I look at the game is a product of those years of listening and playing against these guys and knowing what works and what doesn't.
Helpmates - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 03:03 PM EDT (#261698) #
Good to see D.J. Davis back in the saddle...two SBs so far today.  I really hope he goes nuts on the basepaths next year, a la Billy Hamilton.
Gerry - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 03:17 PM EDT (#261699) #
The Blue Jays and the Lansing Lugnuts have renewed their player development agreement for two more years through 2014.
SJE - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 03:33 PM EDT (#261700) #
Speed is always exciting, but the most important thing for Davis to develop is the hit tool.Hopefully with a little pop too.
Lugnut Fan - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 03:59 PM EDT (#261703) #
Jesse Hernandez was returned to Lansing.  Seemingly he will take Sanchez's spot in the Lansing rotation.
Original Ryan - Thursday, August 02 2012 @ 05:11 PM EDT (#261706) #
The Blue Jays and the Lansing Lugnuts have renewed their player development agreement for two more years through 2014.

Every Blue Jays affiliate except Las Vegas now has a PDC beyond 2012.

Buffalo and Rochester haven't extended their PDCs yet. Affiliate shuffling season is only about five weeks away!

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