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David Cooper and Moises Sierra combined for seven hits, two home runs and six RBI to help Las Vegas defeat Reno in the Pacific Coast League (AAA).

Las Vegas 7 Reno 5 (10 innings)

The 51s scored three runs in the 10th inning to steal the win away from Arizona's triple-A affiliate. Former big leaguer (and Rule 5 selection) Joe Paterson was saddled with his fifth blown save while former Yankees reliever Jonathan Albaladejo took the loss. Las Vegas managed just two runs in 5.0 innings off of Reno starter and Arizona's top prospect Trevor Bauer, who was recently returned to the minors after four MLB starts. Former Angels prospect Sean O'Sullivan started the game for Toronto's triple-A affiliate and he pitched well once again and allowed just two runs (one earned) in 7.0 innings. Jerry Gil then blew the save in the ninth inning after Clint Everts worked a scoreless eighth. Bill Murphy worked the 10th inning and won the game despite allowing a run on two hits and two walks. David Cooper and Moises Sierra were the offensive stars of the game. The former went 4-for-4 with three runs scored and three RBI that came on a 10th inning, game-winning homer, while the latter had three hits including a two-run home run. Mark Sobolewski, in just his second triple-A game, went 1-for-5 and made two errors at the hot corner.

New Hampshire 6 Portland 5 (10 innings)

Toronto got the best of Boston's double-A affiliate, as well as the big league club. Former Blue Jays pitching prospect Mike MacDonald started for the Sea Dogs and was beat around by his former affiliate. John Tolisano, hitting out of the leadoff spot, paced the offense with four hits in six trips to the plate. He also drove in two runs. Kenen Bailli was 3-for-5 and raised his batting average to .336. Kevin Howard was held hitless but walked three times. On the bump for the Fisher Cats, John Stilson had an off game, allowing five runs in 3.0 innings. He permited six hits and two walks. The bullpen was outstanding and did not allow a run in seven combined innings. Sam Dyson worked the final two frames with two Ks - and did not allow a run.

St. Luice 6 Dunedin 2 (5 innings)

Rain hampered this game, which began on Saturday. The play resumed on Sunday to eek out the fifth inning for an official game. Shawn Griffith received the spot start for Dunedin and allowed six runs (three earned) in 4.0 innings. Canadian Brandon Kaye, promoted from the Gulf Coast League, worked the final frame. Jon Berti and Marcus Knecht each went 1-for-1 with a walk. Justin jackson was 0-for-2 and Kevin Pillar was also held hitless in three at-bats.

Lansing 7 Wisconsin

The Lugnuts held on for the win despite allowing five runs in the final four frames. Justin Nicolino started the game and held Milwaukee's affiliate hitless through four innings. His final line included two runs allowed on four hits in six innings. He struck out eight batters and did not issue a walk. Philip Brua and Ajay Meyer both struggled. At the plate, Shane Opitz went 2-for-3 with a double, two RBI, a walk and a stolen base. Kenny Wilson was 1-for-5 with a two-run homer. He also struck out three times. Gustavo Pierre went 0-for-4 with a strikeout and was picked off first base.

Vancouver 5 Spokane 2

The Canadians managed just two hits in the first seven innings before getting four in the eighth inning, which lead to a five-run outburst, as well as the win. Balbino Fuenmayor had two hits and drove in two. Jorge Flores went 1-for-3 and drove in two. Ian Parmley had a hit and a walk. Texas' emerging pitching prospect C.J. Edwards dominated Vancouver and allowed just one run, no walks and struck out nine in 5.0 innings. Eric Brown, who pitched in the Lansing bullpen earlier in the year, had another so-so start. He allowed two runs on seven hits and a walk in 4.0 innings. Jonathan Lucas worked three scoreless frames while 2012 first rounder Marcus Stroman struck out three and did not allow a walk or a hit in 2.0 innings.

Bluefield 8 Danville 6

Teenager Roberto Osuna had a respectable start. He allowed two runs in 4.0 innings. Canadian Les Williams was the most effective reliever on the day. He did not allow a run in 1.2 innings. Alex Azor, headed for a Naval commitment at the end of the year, went 3-for-5 with two runs scored. Dwight Smith Jr. had two hits and drove in three runs. Jacob Anderson went 0-for-4 with two Ks. Matt Dean went 1-for-3 and continued his trend of swinging and missing with another strikeout (He has 34 Ks in 25 games).

GCL - Off Day

DSL Jays 3 DSL Brewers

Jorge Contreras continues to make a case for a U.S. work visa for 2013. He did not allow a hit or run in 7.0 innings of work and lowered his ERA to 1.36. Manuel Lopez worked the final two frames. Juan Tejada had two hits at the plate. Rolando Sergovia had a rough day by going hitless in three at-bats and by making two errors at the hot corner.

Three Stars:

3. Moises Sierra, 3 hits, HR

2. David Cooper, 4-for-4, HR

1. Jorge Contreras, seven hitless innings

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PeterG - Monday, July 23 2012 @ 04:04 PM EDT (#260935) #
Can any of those in the know, post something concerning Sean O'Sullivan - why is he suddenly being so successful at LV? Has they changed or done something possible with him? Could we have stolen a player from the Royals?
ramone - Monday, July 23 2012 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#260936) #
I watched most of the game on milb.tv last night, he looked ok, when the ball was up it was hit hard, the announcers said he relies on getting ground ball outs but looking at his stats it doesn't look like he gets a larger than average amount of ground balls.. He started the game throwing 87-89mph but by the second was sitting at 91-92mph and even hit 95mph. Perhaps better defense has made a difference? I say that without having one clue who played behind him when he was with the Royals AAA team.

That probably doesn't clear much up other than his velocity, sorry.
Richard S.S. - Monday, July 23 2012 @ 04:49 PM EDT (#260937) #

In my non-expert opinion:

It's possible, after being yanked from A+ to LAA and doing well early, he got a "big head".   Once he struggles, they forgot to send him to his last successful Minor stop, and promoted him (aka: they Snider-ed him).   He thinks he hit bottom (little does he know).   I think this Team got someone who can be good, but might be out of options.

finch - Monday, July 23 2012 @ 10:56 PM EDT (#260948) #
With Josh Johnson and Justin Upton on the block, I hope AA makes a move for at least one of these players.

For Johnson, I'd offer something along the lines of: Nicolino, McGuire, McDade
For Upton, I'd offer: Hechavarria, Comer, Smith Jr, Sanchez

Still have a deep system after these trades.

Come on AA...LET'S DO THIS!
TamRa - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 12:05 AM EDT (#260950) #
I don't think that's enough, particularly for Johnson - but if he can be had I'd pay a pretty obscene package for him.

Much more so than for Upton.
jjdynomite - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 01:08 AM EDT (#260951) #
Why Upton? What if Snider is about to turn the corner (Super-SSS and all)? Imagine an all-defensive and offensive outfield of Snider, Rasmus and Bats from 2013-2016?
92-93 - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 03:06 AM EDT (#260953) #
The sooner Bautista gets moved out of RF to a 1B/DH role, the better the team will be all around. It will help keep his bat healthy and improve the outfield defense, where Bautista gets by as average because of his arm. His range is poor. I think Bautista's ego will prevent such a change, but we'll get a good glimpse the next couple weeks of the defensive potential of a Snider/Rasmus/Gose outfield, and even that can be improved upon by flipping CF/RF.

In the offseason Keith Law did a Top 50 Under-25 ranking. Counting down from 12, it went Heyward, Trout, Lawrie, Bumgarner, Strasburg, Hosmer, Castro, Kershaw, Posey, Stanton and McCutchen. #1 was Justin Upton. When a 24 year old's down year has him posting a .358obp, he's a real special talent. If I were Arizona, a competitive team in a weak division with no incentive to sell, I'd laugh at the above offer for Upton.

I find that it's usually safe to say that if you don't mind parting with a certain package for player X on first glance, it's not nearly enough.
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 03:32 AM EDT (#260954) #
Why Upton?

Because he's actually done, in the major leagues, a whole bunch of things that people around here are hoping Snider might someday do?
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 03:35 AM EDT (#260955) #
Geez, David Cooper is having himself a week. In his last seven games (it's a homestand, naturally) he's gone .516/.559/.839, which ought to keep Adam Lind focused, if nothing else.
uglyone - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 10:34 AM EDT (#260963) #
Another DH candidate is also having a helluva week:

E.Thames: 29ab, 12ht, 4db, 2hr, 3bb/6k, .414/.469/.759/1.228

has his AAA season line up to .328/.410/.529/.938 now.
BlueJayWay - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 10:51 AM EDT (#260967) #
Apparently Cooper was pulled from the game last night.  Does anyone know why?
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#260975) #
It was the sixth inning, and they had an 11-1 lead?
92-93 - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 11:41 AM EDT (#260976) #
Still a bit odd to be removed defensively when you're scheduled to bat in the 6th, isn't it?

It could be absolutely nothing, or the fact that Hechavarria got the day off and Cooper was removed mid-game could mean AA was starting to intensify talks surrounding any of Hechavarria, Cooper, Escobar, and Lind. Who knows.

Moe - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 01:00 PM EDT (#260986) #
Dave Cameron has a nice write-up how Hanley Ramirez might fit into the Jays:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/finding-fits-for-hanley-ramirez/

He suggests Gose for Ramirez and cash and using Ramirez in the outfield. I like the idea although I don't think the Jays should be in the business of accepting cash to include better prospects. And a position switch mid-season does not seem like a good idea.

However, what about Escobar for Ramirez? Play Ramirez at SS for the rest of the season and move him to the OF in the off-season. Except the Jays have enough OF if they don't trade any away and not enough IF. 

Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 01:09 PM EDT (#260989) #
Bautista gets by as average because of his arm. His range is poor.

It ought to be better - he certainly still runs well enough to cover RF. He doesn't get the greatest reads or run the greatest routes.

Of course, Bautista doesn't have nearly as much professional experience in the outfield as Travis Snider, and what experience he does have generally came in years when he was being bounced around the diamond.

You might think having a coach on staff who won multiple Gold Gloves in the outfield might be able to help him with these things. But it's another coach who works with the outfielders.
uglyone - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 01:25 PM EDT (#260990) #
I think it would be insane to give up anything for Hanley. Especially when Youk was had for free.

Hanley as a salary dump to make Johnson cheaper makes much more sense to me.
Moe - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 01:25 PM EDT (#260991) #
But it's another coach who works with the outfielders.

Considering that a coach costs (much) less than even minimum salary, I have never understood why teams don't have bigger coaching staffs with specialized roles and possibly even double-staffing (e.g. different hitting coaches for different players).

Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 01:40 PM EDT (#260993) #
However, what about Escobar for Ramirez?

The Marlins don't need a shortstop, not even a Cuban one, and the Jays don't need a third baseman. I don't see where Ramirez fits here, and I certainly don't like the direction his career is going anyway.

The Marlins badly need a first baseman - Carlos Lee has been no better than Gaby Sanchez - and the Jays just happen to have an extra one in Las Vegas. While Cooper would be a significant upgrade for the Marlins, it would surely take more than him to prise Johnson away. The Marlins also need outfielders and pitchers, and they don't seem too fussy about whether what they get is major league ready.
92-93 - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 02:24 PM EDT (#261000) #
Lovullo works with the outfielders I presume, and not Murphy?
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 02:52 PM EDT (#261003) #
Yup. Which isn't necessarily bad - Dave Duncan's been a pretty successful pitching coach.

Teams can only have the six uniformed coaches, and I always think it's helpful if they can overlap somehow. The same teacher, with the best will in the world at both ends, simply can't communicate with every kid in the classroom. The Gaston staff - with Murphy and two former hitting coaches (Gaston and Tenace) - made a lot of progress with a lot of different hitters, and I think it's because sooner or later one of those guys will say something that actually resonates with the player (although in the case of Bautista, while Gaston and Murphy both worked with him, it may have been Vernon Wells who provided the final hint that created the Modern Monster we now see.) Anyway, Farrell's staff, naturally enough, has a similar weight on the pitching end. (A pitching coach, a bullpen coach, a former pitching coach, a former catcher.)
vw_fan17 - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 04:09 PM EDT (#261009) #
He suggests Gose for Ramirez and cash and using Ramirez in the outfield. I like the idea although I don't think the Jays should be in the business of accepting cash to include better prospects. And a position switch mid-season does not seem like a good idea.

However, what about Escobar for Ramirez? Play Ramirez at SS for the rest of the season and move him to the OF in the off-season. Except the Jays have enough OF if they don't trade any away and not enough IF. 


What about: X for Ramirez, move Escobar to 2nd, Hanley at SS? I doubt Johnson's back next year.

Although at this point, it's hard to say who I am less excited about on offense: Escobar or Johnson.
jjdynomite - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 04:23 PM EDT (#261010) #
What about: X for Ramirez, move Escobar to 2nd, Hanley at SS? I doubt Johnson's back next year.

The issue with that is Escobar is a great fielder; the Jays are tied for 5th in the majors with .981 fielding percentage, to "throw" one stat out there: http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2012-specialpos_ss-fielding.shtml

If we're keeping Escobar, Hanley should be moved to 2nd.
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 04:30 PM EDT (#261011) #
Hanley at SS?

The pitchers might go on strike, and who would blame them. He can't play short anymore.
PeterG - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 04:38 PM EDT (#261013) #
If Escober would move to 2nd(which he likely would not) I would prefer to just keep Hech. As it is, one of them has to be dealt but more likely in the off season.
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 04:46 PM EDT (#261015) #
I don't think the Jays should be in the business of accepting cash to include better prospects.

I think the point of the cash would be to ease the pain of Ramirez's contract, which pays him $31 million over the next two years. He can't play the infield anymore, he hasn't hit for two years... oh, I am so not enthused by the idea!
scottt - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 05:25 PM EDT (#261019) #
Hanley can't play short anymore and he is not a thirdbaseman. Can he play second? Can he play it now or does he need some training?

From memory, Hanley has 3 years left of a backloaded contract at 15+ million a year. I don't think he's worth that, so I wouldn't give more than Cooper or McDade. If the Marlin need a 3rd baseman as well, Toronto simply doesn't have one.
92-93 - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 05:33 PM EDT (#261020) #
I'd qualify that statement by saying Hanley hasn't hit at his established elite level the last two years, Magpie; it's not like he's been an offensive wasteland. Can somebody well-versed in BABIP and whatnot explain to me why Hanley's BABIP has declined 60 points the last 2 years? If you bring his 2012 BABIP up to his career .333 mark (which is weighed down by 2011-2012), he'd be hitting .308/.384/.492. I almost never watch the Marlins play so I have no idea what's going on, but I have a hard time believing an elite .300/.400/.500 bat fell off the map at age 27. His BB%, K%, and LD% all seem in line.
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 05:38 PM EDT (#261021) #
Can he play second?

He's listed at 230 pounds, which would make him the heaviest 2b in the majors. I'm not sure how nimble he'd be on the DP pivot, especially seeing as how he's never done it before. He's a left fielder, awaiting his destiny.
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 05:46 PM EDT (#261022) #
Can somebody well-versed in BABIP and whatnot explain to me why Hanley's BABIP has declined 60 points the last 2 years?

That's certainly not me, but anyway - his BABiP numbers until these last two years seem a little too high to sustain. His luck may simply be evening out these last two seasons, and he's neither as great as he appeared in 2010 or as useless as he appears now. Something in between - a .270 hitter, with decent power, and rapidly vanishing speed.
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 05:51 PM EDT (#261023) #
Not useless, I shouldn't have said that. He's not a bad player. But with the possible exception of LF, I really don't see anywhere where he would give this team an upgrade. And that's the least I'd expect from a $16 million player.
Magpie - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 05:58 PM EDT (#261026) #
One thing in particular that's started to happen to Ramirez over the last two years - RH pitchers are getting him out. This is new. He used to simply destroy them - from 2008-2010, he actually had reverse platoon splits. But the RH pitchers destroyed him last year (he was the same old Ramirez against LH).

This year, he's been mediocre against everyone, but a little better against southpaws.
Sano - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 06:18 PM EDT (#261027) #
I think this is a perfect 3-way trade for AA to make. Ramirez to OAK, one of OAK's SP (Parker?) to Toronto and prospects/whoever to Miami.

Or AA's really after Johnson and the Hanley stuff is all smoke and mirrors. Wouldn't surprise me given that pitching is really what we need. Hanley would be nice to have but is rather unnecessary (at least for Toronto).
scottt - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 06:28 PM EDT (#261029) #
Or AA could just send Alvarez to Oakland for a pitcher and bring Hech up.

In any case, improving Oakland could be counter productive.

Hanley would have been a good fit in Boston, thankfully they already unloaded Youkilis for nothing. There's still the possible Crawford Hanley swap, but it would be odd for the Marlins to sell by acquiring a larger contract.
uglyone - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 06:57 PM EDT (#261030) #
I wouldn't pick up Hanley off waivers at this point.

grjas - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 08:55 PM EDT (#261033) #
I would be seriously disappointed in AA If he trades away blue chip prospects for yet another outfielder (upton) when what we need is major league calibre pitching, pitching and more pitching.

Fortunately I doubt he will do that.

Did I mention we needed pitching?
Richard S.S. - Tuesday, July 24 2012 @ 10:02 PM EDT (#261036) #

Did I mention we needed pitching?

And there I was thinking we just needed pitching and more pitching.  Now I know we need Pitching, more Pitching and even more Pitching.

92-93 - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 02:01 AM EDT (#261042) #
"I wouldn't pick up Hanley off waivers at this point."

Funny, I remember last year when I seemed to be the only person who was surprised by David Wright clearing waivers and thought it was ridiculous that Toronto didn't put a claim in. Wright is hitting .348/.438/.579 this year. When I suggested trading for him this winter (when a Fangraphs writer claimed Bourjos was TOO much for Wright) someone responded that they'd rather give up a first round pick to Boston to get Ortiz signed to a 2 year deal.
Oceanbound - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 04:14 AM EDT (#261043) #
What would it take to get J Johnson then? Just tell Loria you'll pay all the money and throw in a bag of chips?

There are cheap owners, then there's Loria.
John Northey - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 07:54 AM EDT (#261045) #
I've wondered if the Jays took on a bad contract if they could get some quality out of a cheap team. The question is where would you play Hanley as we have a solid 3b and reasonable ss with a top defensive SS coming. Tough one.
Magpie - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 11:38 AM EDT (#261061) #
David Wright clearing waivers

I think what happened is no one believed the Mets were even remotely serious about moving Wright - they were just trying to get a jump on their off-season. So if they gave Jose Reyes a whole lot of money this winter, they knew they had someone to talk to about Wright. No one was helpful enough to show any interest.

David Wright makes me go weak in the knees. He always has. I'd seriously consider giving up Lawrie and Rasmus to get him.
92-93 - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#261063) #
Who cares about the Mets intention for Wright? Let's not pretend like filing a waiver claim is some arduous task. Every team should have wanted Wright on a 1 year, 15m deal.
bpoz - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 12:15 PM EDT (#261064) #
Lets clarify the waiver procedure rules & understandings for the after July 31 period.

I believe it is a curtsy to allow all players to pass waivers. But a team may grab a player for various reasons, Randy Myers. He can then be taken off waivers and retained by his old team. I am not sure if the claiming team gets to change their mind however. I bow to da box.
Magpie - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 12:35 PM EDT (#261068) #
Every team should have wanted Wright on a 1 year, 15m deal.

But every one knew there was no chance, none whatsoever, of it actually happening. The Mets would have withdrawn the claim, of course. No one was getting him for free, you would have had to talk trade. But the Mets weren't even serious about trading Wright at the time - they just wanted to get an advance peek at the winter market, in the event that they wanted to trade him then. Everyone saw through what they were doing, and gave it a pass.
uglyone - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#261070) #
David Wright and Hanley are not the same level, IMO.

I assume we're talking about Wright clearing waivers at this point last year, so we'll do a comparison between wright at this point last year and Hanley now

Google tells me Wright cleared waivers on August 26, so his 2011 numbers will be as of that date.

D.Wright:

2011 (28): 70gms, 310pa, .259avg, .345obp, .441slg, .786ops, 1.9bwar, 1.9fwar
2010 (27): 157gms, 670pa, .283avg, .354obp, .503slg, .856ops, 2.5bwar, 4.0fwar
2009 (26): 144gms, 618pa, .307avg, .390obp, .447slg, .837ops, 2.9bwar, 3.6fwar


H.Ramirez:

2012 (28): 92gms, 391pa, .246avg, .322obp, .430slg, .752ops, 0.4bwar, 1.4fwar
2011 (27): 92gms, 385pa, .243avg, .333obp, .379slg, .712ops, 0.0bwar, 1.3fwar
2010 (26): 142gms, 619pa, .300avg, .378obp, .475slg, .853ops, 2.6bwar, 4.6fwar

Wright had about $20m guaranteed left on his contract, while Hanley had about $35m guaranteed left on his.

And for whatever it's worth Wright doesn't seem to be the clubhouse cancer that Hanley is.

Hanley's a much riskier proposition than Wright was, IMO.
92-93 - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 03:26 PM EDT (#261082) #
I'm a little uncomfortable with the notion that we knew what all 30 GMs were thinking. I don't think Kenny Williams thought when he put in a waiver claim for Alex Rios that JP Ricciardi was willing to let him go for free. And even if everything you said is true, I still don't understand why 29 teams couldn't be bothered to file a waiver claim for Wright. Were they worried Alderson's subsequent phone calls would waste their airtime minutes?
Sano - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 04:31 PM EDT (#261086) #
FWIW, Joel Sherman of the NY Post has us linked with Jose Reyes. Claims that we tried to get him over the summer but were unwilling to commit to 5 years. After 2012, the 6 year deal he signed will only be for a remaining 5 years, hence the renewed interest per Sherman.
scottt - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 05:17 PM EDT (#261090) #
Sounds strange. I would think it's the last year of his contract that Toronto didn't want, not the first year. These contracts are almost always backloaded.
scottt - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 05:32 PM EDT (#261093) #
Looked it up. 10 million this year, but 22 each of the last 3 years.

eungar - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 05:56 PM EDT (#261095) #
if im mistaken then please correct me..... but i think every team puts even their best and most untouchable players through waivers every year just to see what kind of return they could potentially get for said player. i believe these things are never heard about because players like albert pujols would cost way too much for any team to be willing to part with so teams don't even bother and if they do they just inquire but it usually ends there.
Richard S.S. - Wednesday, July 25 2012 @ 07:52 PM EDT (#261098) #
Teams put everyone on the team on waivers, with most players clearing.   Those that are claimed are pulled back (revocable waivers), trades negotiated and made or released.   Only those players clearing waivers prior to July31 may be traded after July 31 without passing through waivers.   Those that haven't passed waivers must do so first, before being traded (still revocable waivers).
bpoz - Friday, July 27 2012 @ 08:19 AM EDT (#261165) #
Good points eungar & Richard SS regarding the waiver possibilities.

IF AA puts Bautista through waivers, he would be pulled back if claimed and discussion would start. IF AA was not serious about trading him because he is a very important & affordable piece in our 2012-15 window then why waste every ones time. A 1 for 1 involving King Felix or Halladay seems fair talent but Bautista impacts team offense & the SPs impact the rotation in a major way. The $6mil discount on Bautista would be minor IMO due to the gain/loss impact to the championship window.

But 40 man roster players like impending FAs KJ, B Lyons and surplus close to ready with potential players like Cooper, Sierra, Thames,Snider etc could be serious candidates to move with both teams filling needs IMO.
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