Batter's Box Interactive Magazine - Friday on the Farm: Delightful Dunedin Scores only W on the Farm

Friday on the Farm: Delightful Dunedin Scores only W on the Farm

Outscored 22 to 15 and out hit 39 to 27, only one Jays farm team won Friday. Las Vegas didn’t play and Dunedin scrapped their way to a win with some decent 9 strike out pitching. New Hampshire started their disaster early giving up 5 runs in the first inning and then got tagged for three home runs in later innings. They didn’t recover.

New Hampshire 4 Binghampton 11

4744 home town fans, stuck around for the fireworks at North Easter Delta Dental Stadium Friday, they weren’t their because the Fisher Cats dominated Binghampton. It was the other way around. Struggling Starter Deck McGuire (1-5) took the loss, throwing .1 IP and giving up 5 earned runs on 5 hits in the first Inning. New Hampshire put their foot in the bucket and kept it there. Other than McGuire, New Hampshire hurlers gave up three homers but struck out 7, probably the only positive pitching stat of the night. Ryan Goins suffered a fielding error, his 6th miscue of the 2012 campaign.

Hot hitting Goins, however, redeemed himself by boosting his average to .238, going 4 for 5 with a double and an RBI. Mike McDade and Brad McElroy had two hit nights with Mike McDade adding a round tripper in the 8th, his 4th of the year. A.J. Jimenez and McElroy added a double summing up the Fisher Cats’ extra base hits for the night. Jonathan Diaz and Mark Solelewski added singles.

Dunedin 8 Ft. Myers 5

D-Jays were the bright spot on the scoreboard for the Jays farm system Friday night, roughing up the Miracle from Ft. Myers 8 to 5 behind the winning pitching of Egan Smith (5-2) and some impressive relief from Scott Gracy (5 Strikeouts in 2.1 IP) and Danny Barnes who came on for his 12th save. In the field, Ryan Schimpf had a fielding miscue at 2nd.

Dunedin parlayed 9 hits into 8 runs with only 3 extra base hits, a 2 run triple from young Jake Marinick and doubles form Schimpf and Oliver Dominguez who also batted in 3. John Talley and Kevin Ahrens turned in two hit evenings and Marcus Knecht and Sean Ochinko added singles while Michael Crouse booked an RBI.

Lansing 3 Bowling Green 6

17 hits allowed by Lugnuts pitchers proved disappointing for the 6,712 home town fans at Cooley Law School field in Lansing. Jessie Hernandez (3-2) suffered his second loss, going 5.1 IP giving up 4 runs on 13 hits and getting 3 Ks. Lugnuts relievers had trouple putting the wheels back on, giving up another couple of runs despite 4 K’s and two hits in the last 3 innings. 2B Jonathan Berti had a throwing error.

Only Berti and Kevin Pilar who had a 3-5 night had RBI’s. Berti’s RBI came on a 2 out solo blast in the 7th inning. Carlos Perez put a double on the board and Shane Opits and Chris Hawkins managed a single each.

Stars

3rd Star Kevin Pillar (3 for 5, RBI)

2nd Star tie Scott Gracy (2.1 IP with 5 Ks) Mike McDade (2 for 4, HR)

1st Star Ryan Goins (4 for 5, 2B, RBI)

Posted by mamboon on Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 10:50 AM EDT.

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ogator - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 11:11 AM EDT (#256241) #

Everybody makes typos but I'm hoping Goins is hitting 338. 238 doesn't seem like much to acknowledge.

ramone - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 11:19 AM EDT (#256244) #

At the beginning of the year I thought Deck McGuire would be a decent call up option by June or so, now he appears more in line for a demotion than any promotion. He is quickly tumbling down the prospect list, I wasn't a huge fan of him as the Jays #1 pick but I assumed he would actually be a safe pick. It would be nice to get Fasano's insight on his struggles, is he hiding an injury, mechanical flaws or something else?

China fan - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 11:54 AM EDT (#256248) #

Goins is indeed hitting .338. And McDade has boosted his OPS to .895 after a slow start. His OPS is 1.232 over the past two games. Goins and McDade might both deserve promotions to Las Vegas, but is there room for them? McDade might be slightly easier to find room for, but David Cooper would have to spend significant time at DH, which the Jays might not want to do yet.

China fan - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 11:57 AM EDT (#256250) #

Excuse the typo. McDade's OPS was 1.232 over the past 10 games (not two).

ramone - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 01:10 PM EDT (#256251) #

An article on AA visiting Lansing, not too much in the article but AA said Nicolino hit 94 mph and the writer said Sanchez hit 98 mph.

http://www.mlive.com/lansing-sports/index.ssf/2012/05/toronto_blue_jays_gm_visits_la.html

Richard S.S. - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 02:35 PM EDT (#256260) #

As a pitcher ages, his velocity on the fastball tends to drop. The drop is usually in the 2-3 mph range, so pitching in the 92-94 mph range will result in a drop to 89-92 mph (Cecil possibly). Pitching in the 96-98 mph range, the drop to 93-96 mph is more survivable for power Pitchers. Sanchez stays, Nicolino may be traded.

ayjackson - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 03:04 PM EDT (#256265) #

Interesting Richard. So you're saying a twenty year old pitcher like Nicolino, pitching at 92-94, will drop to 89-92 by the time he's twenty-three? Wow. Where did you read that?

I'd think that velocity wouldn't start to diminish until 27 at the earliest.

uglyone - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 03:30 PM EDT (#256266) #

It's getting harder and harder to envision McGuire or Jenkins even becoming back-end starters at this point. Too bad.

McDade, though, seems to be turning himself into a legit (though not great) prospect right now. He's have a Thames-caliber 23yr old year in AA (though with much more experience than Thames had at the teim), and his huge spike in BBs is very encouraging. If that latent power potential decides to explode at any point he might turn into something good.

greenfrog - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 03:34 PM EDT (#256267) #

If Nicolino is getting up to 94, that is great news. Kevin Goldstein recently commented that a scout liked Nico but was concerned about his lack of velocity (the scout said he was throwing 89-91). If he's closer to 92-94, he'll be that much better as a SP.

I think it would take an awful lot to pry away the Jays' best starting pitching prospects. AA seems much more likely to deal guys he doesn't really see as key parts of the team's future. Consider the minor-leaguers he's traded: Chavez, Wallace, Pastornicky, Collins, Molina, Stewart, Jaye, Webb (I'm probably forgetting a few). Some respectable prospects, but how many have proved (or are likely) to be impact or even above-average players?

92-93 - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 03:42 PM EDT (#256268) #

When did Sam Dyson get promoted to New Hampshire? He's pitching in relief right now.

ramone - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 03:52 PM EDT (#256269) #

"When did Sam Dyson get promoted to New Hampshire? He's pitching in relief right now."

I saw on twitter yesterday that he was promoted, wonder if they plan on keeping him in the pen in AA.

I guess Cordero has really scared the front office :)

China fan - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 04:36 PM EDT (#256270) #

....AA seems much more likely to deal guys he doesn't really see as key parts of the team's future....

Don't forget that some of these guys were very highly rated by bloggers, Bauxites and professional commentators. Zach Stewart, for example, was briefly considered the top Jays prospect (until the Halladay trade). Many of us saw these prospects as "key parts of the team's future." The difference is that AA recognized them as being expendable. It's another reminder that our prospect rankings can differ very much from AA's own assessment of who is likely to make it big in the majors. So far, it appears that AA has been proven right on most of these prospects, including Wallace and Stewart, who have not really impressed on their new teams so far.

greenfrog - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 05:44 PM EDT (#256271) #

Absolutely true. While I was in favour of most of those trades, I was wrong on at least one player (Wallace, who I thought would turn into a good ML hitter). Among amateur observers at least, the stock of prospects can rise and fall quickly.

sam - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 07:57 PM EDT (#256277) #

Richard, there really isn't a hard and fast rule to pitcher velocities decreasing from 19/20 to 28/29. Some guys find velocity in these years, some lose it. If Sanchez is touching 98 at 19 he could very well touch 98 as he grows, especially considering how free and easy he is and how he probably hasn't reached physical maturity.

Lugnut Fan - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 08:45 PM EDT (#256278) #

I was in the stands on Thursday and I can confirm that Nicholino hit 94 on a scouts gun. I can also confirm that ball was hit about 450 feet out of the ball park and into a parking lot across the street.

Nicholino usually sits 89-91 and he is much better living there. Location is better, movement is better, everything is just better for him in that range. I think he was juiced up knowing the boss was in the stands and he was over throwing.

Sanchez does sit with a 97 or 98 mph fastball and has all year. The velo readings I have or him are off of scouts guns and pitch f/x. His change up is at 88 and his curve ball is filthy.

Gerry - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 10:07 PM EDT (#256280) #

Kevin Pillar had a nice night, 6-6 including a grand slam. Over his five games Pillar is 15-23.

ayjackson - Saturday, May 12 2012 @ 10:39 PM EDT (#256281) #

Sanchez does sit with a 97 or 98 mph fastball and has all year. The velo readings I have or him are off of scouts guns and pitch f/x. His change up is at 88 and his curve ball is filthy.

Wowzers! Probably will be our top pitching prospect by year-end, if he isn't already.

bpoz - Sunday, May 13 2012 @ 10:26 AM EDT (#256287) #

Thanks Lugnut fan. Throwing strikes & having movement on your FB is the key. That confirms, if correct, what V Horsman has been preaching in Gerry's interview.

FB velocity does change. Young players also physically mature. It seems Hutch gained weight, Nicolino might & Cecil lost weight. Z Stewart lost weight, height and about 4mph on his FB but he is adjusting.

Hutch is interesting. He may NOT have been rushed to the Majors. I could have seen 3more NH stats where he gets to 7IP with 2 Er per start. That would tell me that he is handling AA and could develop by skipping AAA and trying the Majors. So far so good IMO. He has great poise but what is his scouting report? His next start is against the NYY.

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