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Maybe not the most exciting day in major league history, and both the Rays and Cardinals could be history by the time the LCS begins. But pretty cool anyway. 

And why did it happen? A tale of four teams...

First the AL. Tampa Bay made the turn for September with a 74-61 record, which put them 7.5 games behind the second place Yankees. They had a good month in September, going 17-10 - mind you, this was not quite as well as they'd played in August, when they went 18-10.  But they really didn't do anything all that special. The Rays offense was a fair bit better in the final month. Having averaged 4.26 runs through the end of August, they increased that to 4.89 runs per game in the final month. This was almost entirely due to the efforts of Evan Longoria and B.J. Upton:

NAME              GP    AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR  RBI   TB   BB   SO    SB   CS    BAVG     OBP    SLG     OPS     RC     RC27

Kelly Shoppach    11    29    6    6    0    0    4    4   18    1    11    0    0    .207    .281    .621    .902    5.3    6.00
Casey Kotchman    26    90    7   22    1    0    2    7   29   10    14    1    0    .244    .349    .322    .671   10.5    3.90
Ben Zobrist    24    87   13   20    3    0    5   17   38   10    20    3    0    .230    .306    .437    .743   12.2    4.71
Evan Longoria    27    90   21   26    6    0    7   22   53   27    16    2    1    .289    .454    .589   1.043   23.7    9.13
Sean Rodriguez    24    65    6   16    2    0    2    8   24    8    10    1    0    .246    .370    .369    .740   10.2    5.00
Desmond Jennings  26   106   21   17    1    1    2    5   26   13    27    6    1    .160    .258    .245    .504    7.3    2.15
B.J. Upton    26    99   21   33   10    1    5   20   60   17    29    9    3    .333    .432    .606   1.038   25.7    9.64
Matt Joyce    23    68    7   18    5    0    2   16   29    9    16    2    0    .265    .370    .426    .797   11.8    6.14
Johnny Damon    25    78   12   19    3    1    2   12   30   15    13    6    2    .244    .380    .385    .765   13.9    5.77

Reid Brignac    14    43    2    8    2    0    0    5   10    1    11    0    0    .186    .205    .233    .437    1.5    1.14
John Jaso    13    37    4    8    2    0    1    3   13    1    10    0    0    .216    .237    .351    .588    2.6    2.36
Brandon Guyer    13    35    6    7    1    0    1    1   11    1    6    0    0    .200    .222    .314    .537    2.0    1.78
Jose Lobaton    12    30    2    4    1    0    0    0    5    4    7    0    0    .133    .257    .167    .424    0.6    0.57
Sam Fuld     7    5    1    1    0    0    0    1    1    1    1    0    0    .200    .333    .200    .533    0.4    2.97
Dan Johnson    6    6    2    1    0    0    1    1    4    1    1    0    0    .167    .286    .667    .952    0.8    3.73
Elliot Johnson    6    6    1    1    1    0    0    0    2    1    2    1    0    .167    .286    .333    .619    0.8    4.40
Russ Canzler     3    3    0    1    0    0    0    1    1    1    1    0    0    .333    .400    .333    .733    0.7    6.43
                                                                           
Totals     27   888  132  210   38    3   34  123  356  121   199   31    7    .236    .340    .401    .741  129.1    4.82

Meanwhile, Tampa's pitching performed at the same general level of efficiency in the final month as it had all year long - they allowed 3.79 runs per game in the first five months, 3.81 runs per game in the final month.

NAME    GP   GS    W    L   SV  HLD    IP    H   ER   HR   BB   SO    WHIP    ERA

Jeremy Hellickson   5    5    2    0    0    0   33.2  20   10    4   16   11    1.07    2.67
James Shields    5    5    3    2    0    0   40.1  30   12    4   13   26    1.07    2.68
David Price    6    6    0    2    0    0   33.2  30   15    4   16   34    1.37    4.01
Wade Davis     5    5    3    2    0    0   34.2  29   16    4   13   24    1.21    4.15
Jeff Niemann     5    5    2    2    0    0   23.1  27   18    6    9   16    1.54    6.94

Brandon Gomes    12    0    1    0    0    3    8    4    1    1    2   10    0.75    1.13
Joel Peralta    10    0    0    0    4    4   10    4    1    1    1   11    0.50    0.90
Cesar Ramos    10    0    0    0    0    0    8.2   5    2    1    4    7    1.04    2.08
Jake McGee    10    0    4    1    0    1    9.1   9    4    0    1    8    1.07    3.86
J.P. Howell    10    0    0    1    0    4    4.2   7    2    1    0    3    1.50    3.86
Juan Cruz     8    0    0    0    0    2    5.1   2    2    1    3    3    0.94    3.38
Kyle Farnsworth    8    0    0    0    3    0    6.2   6    3    3    4    9    1.50    4.05
Dane De La Rosa     6    0    0    0    0    0    6.1  10    6    1    1    7    1.74    8.53
Alex Torres    3    0    1    0    0    0    7    7    2    0    4    8    1.57    2.57
Andy Sonnanstine    1    0    0    0    0    0    1    2    0    0    0    2    2.00    0.00
Matt Moore    3    1    1    0    0    1    9.1   9    3    1    3   15    1.29    2.89


Totals    27   27   17   10    7   15  242   201   97   32   90  194    1.20    3.61

As we know, Tampa Bay didn't even come close to catching the Yankees, who went 16-12 themselves in September. The Rays were only able to gain a game and a half on the Bombers. They were, however, the beneficiary of Boston's utterly spectacular collapse, concerning which Theo Epstein had this to say:

 We’re 7-20 in September, if we go 9-18 we’re where we want to be. At 9-18 is winning a third of your games, the worst teams in baseball win a third of their games. There’s no excuse. We did this to ourselves.


How on earth did it happen? Well, don't blame the hitters.

NAME                  GP    AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   RBI    TB   BB   SO   SB   CS    BA       OBP     SLG     OPS    RC     RC27

Jarrod Saltalamacchia 18    68    8   11    3    1    3    10    25    1   27    1    0    .162    .174    .368    .542    3.9    1.82
Adrian Gonzalez   26    88   17   28    6    0    4    14    46   21   23    0    0    .318    .455    .523    .977   20.7    8.87
Dustin Pedroia    27   112   18   34    7    1    4    19    55    6   19    2    2    .304    .336    .491    .827   17.5    5.68
Marco Scutaro    26    93   18   36   12    0    2    21    54   10    6    0    0    .387    .438    .581   1.019   22.7    9.72
Mike Aviles†    20    48    9   15    4    0    2     7    25    2    8    0    2    .313    .340    .521    .861    6.8    4.86
Carl Crawford    23    91   12   24    9    2    1     8    40    4   21    1    1    .264    .295    .440    .734   11.7    4.66
Jacoby Ellsbury   27   120   22   43   11    1    8    21    80    8   13    3    4    .358    .400    .667   1.067   28.2    9.05
Darnell McDonald  18    34    4   13    2    0    1     6    18    3    3    0    0    .382    .421    .529    .950    7.6    9.28
Josh Reddick    20    59    6   16    5    0    1     2    24    2   11    0    0    .271    .306    .407    .713    7.5    4.70
David Ortiz    26    94   12   27    5    0    1     8    35   17   17    0    0    .287    .396    .372    .769   14.2    5.39

Jed Lowrie    14    43    5    6    1    1    2     7    15    4   10    1    0    .140    .213    .349    .562    3.0    2.14
Conor Jackson†    12    19    2    3    0    0    1     5     6    2    3    0    0    .158    .227    .316    .543    1.1    1.69
Kevin Youkilis    10    36    4    6    2    0    0     2     8    5   11    0    0    .167    .302    .222    .525    2.9    2.59
Ryan Lavarnway    10    16    2    2    0    0    2     5     8    0    4    0    0    .125    .125    .500    .625    0.9    1.60
Jason Varitek    9    26    3    2    0    0    1     4    5    3   11    0    0    .077    .200    .192    .392    0.3    0.32
J.D. Drew    4    15    0    4    0    0    0     1    4    0    2    0    0    .267    .267    .267    .533    1.0    2.46
Jose Iglesias    4     2    1    2    0    0    0    0     2    0    0    0    0   1.000   1.000   1.000   2.000    1.2    0.00
                                                                           
Totals    27   973  146  272   67    6   33   140   450   89  193    9   10    .280    .342    .462    .804  149.6    5.46

The Red Sox had averaged 5.40 runs per game through the end of August - they matched that exactly in the season's final month, scoring 5.41 runs per game. Jacoby Ellsbury and Marco Scutaro, in particular, were magnificent. The Boston offense was sufficiently potent that the limping and often unavailable Youkilis was barely missed. But the pitching. Oh dear, oh my, oh gosh. Boston's pitchers gave up 4.18 runs per game over the first five months of the season - in September, that figure exploded to a barely believable 6.37 runs per game. Erik Bedard had the best ERA (5.25) of any of the Boston starters, and being Erik Bedard he was only able to make 3 starts. John Lackey, Andrew Miller, and Kyle Weiland went a combined 0-6, 9.12. Even worse was Papelbon's heir-apparent Daniel Bard.  In fact, Papelbon and Alfredo Aceves were the only key Boston pitchers who pitched well in the final month, and it was a clearly exhausted Papelbon who had the misfortune to be the last man standing on the mound when it all ended. But this collapse certainly wasn't on him and if Boston is still thinking of letting him walk and giving his job to Bard, they may want to reconsider.

NAME                GP   GS    W    L   SV  HLD    IP      H   ER   HR   BB   SO    WHIP    ERA

Erik Bedard†     3    3    1    0    0    0    12    15    7    1    9   12    2.00    5.25
Josh Beckett     4    4    1    2    0    0    23    24   14    5    7   26    1.35    5.48
Jon Lester    6    6    1    3    0    0    31.2   35   19    3   16   32    1.61    5.40
John Lackey    5    5    0    2    0    0    23.2   36   24    1   12   14    2.03    9.13
Tim Wakefield    5    4    1    2    0    0    24    23   14    4   11   21    1.42    5.25
Kyle Weiland     5    3    0    2    0    0    14.2   15   12    4    7    9    1.50    7.36
Andrew Miller    5    2    0    2    0    0    10    16   13    3    9   11    2.50   11.70

Alfredo Aceves    12    0    1    1    0    4    25    18    5    2   10   20    1.12    1.80
Daniel Bard    11    0    0    4    0    3    11    11   13    0    9   11    1.82   10.64
Matt Albers    10    0    0    0    0    2    10    11    8    4    5   15    1.60    7.20
Franklin Morales†    9    0    1    0    0    3     9    8    4    2    4    7    1.33    4.00
Jonathan Papelbon    8    0    0    1    2    0     9.2    9    4    0    2   15    1.14    3.72
Scott Atchison    7    0    1    0    0    0   12    9    2    0    3    7    1.00    1.50
Felix Doubront     8    0    0    0    1    0    7.2    8    5    0    6    5    1.83    5.87
Michael Bowden     7    0    0    0    0    0    11    7    7    3    7   14    1.27    5.73
Dan Wheeler    4    0    0    1    0    1    4.1    7    5    1    0    2    1.62   10.38
Trever Miller†    3    0    0    0    0    0    2    0    0    0    0    1    0.00    0.00
Junichi Tazawa     3    0    0    0    0    0    3    3    2    1    1    4    1.33    6.00

Totals     27   27    7   20    3   13   243.2  255  158   34  118  226    1.53    5.84

The basic shape of the National League wild card was exactly the same, of course. At the end of August, the Cardinals had a 72-64 record, which put 8.5 games behind them the 80-55 Braves. The Braves had a terrible September - not quite as bad as Boston, as the Braves actually did post the 9-18 record that Theo Epstein was longing for. But the Cardinals played even better than Tampa, going 18-8 in September.

So what happened to Atlanta? They went bad on both sides of the ball. They had been scoring 4.1 runs per game - in the final month, they dropped off all the way to 3.22 runs per game. It was a collective falloff - with the exception of Alex Gonzalez, no one had a particularly good month. McCann and Freeman didn't hit much, and the bench bats were especially awful.

NAME                GP    AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR  RBI   TB   BB   SO   SB   CS    BAVG     OBP    SLG      OPS    RC     RC27

Brian McCann    24    85    4   17    3    0    2    9   26   14   22    0    1    .200    .320    .306    .626    8.0    3.02
Freddie Freeman    26    93    8   21    4    0    3   12   34   11   20    0    0    .226    .305    .366    .670    9.7    3.41
Dan Uggla    27   101   16   24    4    0    6   14   46   16   31    0    0    .238    .347    .455    .803   16.2    5.54
Chipper Jones    26    93   10   25    7    0    4   11   44   10   19    0    0    .269    .330    .473    .803   14.0    5.03
Alex Gonzalez    19    60    8   22    7    0    3   12   38    3   15    0    0    .367    .385    .633   1.018   13.7    8.60
Martin Prado    26   110    8   26    2    1    2    7   36    3   11    0    0    .236    .257    .327    .584    8.4    2.63
Michael Bourn    27   118   15   32    5    3    0    7   43    7   25   14    2    .271    .315    .364    .679   15.8    4.68
Jason Heyward    25    66    8   17    2    1    1    4   24   13   20    3    0    .258    .375    .364    .739   10.3    5.33

Eric Hinske    21    23    0    3    0    0    0    1    3    3    7    0    0    .130    .231    .130    .361    0.4    0.60
Jack Wilson†    17    41    3    9    1    0    0    0   10    1   12    0    0    .220    .238    .244    .482    2.2    1.68
Matt Diaz†    15    32    2    8    1    0    0    1    9    1    8    1    0    .250    .265    .281    .546    1.5    1.46
Brooks Conrad    15    11    0    1    0    0    0    2    1    2    4    0    0    .091    .231    .091    .322    0.1    0.29
Jose Constanza    15    23    2    4    0    0    0    1    4    0    4    0    2    .174    .174    .174    .348   -0.5   -0.63
Antoan Richardson    9     4    2    2    0    0    0    0    2    0    0    1    0    .500    .500    .500   1.000    1.1   15.08
David Ross    6    15    1    4    0    0    1    2    7    1    6    0    0    .267    .313    .467    .779    2.2    5.40
Tim Hudson    6    13    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    0    0    .000    .000    .000    .000   -1.6   -2.89
Mike Minor     5     8    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    4    0    0    .000    .111    .000    .111   -0.5   -1.44
Derek Lowe    5     6    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    3    0    0    .000    .000    .000    .000   -0.6   -2.25
Randall Delgado    5    7    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    4    0    0    .000    .000    .000    .000   -0.7   -2.82
                                                                           
Totals    27   919   87  216   36    5   22   83  328   86  220    19    5   .235    .300    .357    .657   98.6    3.53

NAME    GP   GS    W    L   SV  HLD    IP    H    ER   HR   BB   SO    WHIP    ERA


Randall Delgado    5    5    1    0    0    0    25    21    7    3   11    12    1.28   2.52
Mike Minor    5    5    1    1    0    0    27    29   11    6   11    25    1.48   3.67
Tim Hudson    6    6    3    2    0    0    38    38   16    2   11    32    1.29   3.79
Brandon Beachy    5    5    0    1    0    0    27.1   25   16    1   14    41    1.43   5.27
Derek Lowe    5    5    0    5    0    0    23.2  38   23    3    9    17    1.99   8.75

Eric O'Flaherty    14    0    1    0    0    7    14    11    0    0    1     9    0.86   0.00
Jonny Venters    13    0    0    1    0    7    12.1   13    7    1   10    13    1.86   5.11
Cristhian Martinez    13    0    0    1    0    2    17.2   11    5    1    3    12    0.79   2.55
Craig Kimbrel    12    0    1    1    5    0    11.1    9    6    2    7    20    1.41   4.76
Anthony Varvaro    11    0    0    2    0    0    15    8    4    1    5     7    0.87   2.40
Scott Linebrink    9    0    0    2    0    0     8.1    9    4    1    3    7    1.44   4.32
Arodys Vizcaino    8    0    0    1    0    2     6.2   13    7    1    4    4    2.55   9.45
Peter Moylan    6    0    1    1    0    1    4    4    1    0    1     4    1.25   2.25
Julio Teheran     3    1    1    0    0    0    11    11    6    2    4    8    1.36   4.91
Kris Medlen    2    0    0    0    0    0    2.1    1    0    0    0    2    0.43   0.00

Totals    27   27    9   18    5   19    243.2  241 113   24   94   213    1.37   4.17

The pitching fell off as well - not quite as much as the offense, but enough. The Braves had been allowing 3.63 runs per game - that increased to 4,.26 in the final month. Two of the starters, Lowe and Beachy struggled, but the bullpen may have been a bigger problem as Kimbrel and Venters, who had been so brilliant all year long, may have begun to feel the effects of their workload in the final month.

Which opened the door for the Cardinals. The Cardinals played better on both sides of the ball - their offense, which had been scoring 4.66 runs per game picked up the pace and scored almost five runs a game (4.92) in the final month. Leading the way... oh, I wonder who was leading the way for the Cardinals.

NAME             GP   AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR  RBI    TB   BB   SO   SB   CS    BAVG     OBP    SLG     OPS    RC      RC27

Yadier Molina    23   82    9   28    8    0    2   14    42   10    6    1    0    .341    .409    .512    .921   16.9    7.85
Albert Pujols    26  107   18   38    7    0    5   20    60    8    8    2    0    .355    .393    .561    .954   22.0    7.91
Skip Schumaker   23   65    5   14    3    0    0    5    17    6   11    0    0    .215    .282    .262    .543    4.7    2.39
David Freese    20   67   11   19    6    1    2   11    33    7   19    1    0    .284    .351    .493    .844    9.2    4.53
Rafael Furcal    23   91   15   25    6    0    4    8    43    9   10    4    1    .275    .347    .473    .819   15.8    6.29
Matt Holliday    16   59    8   15    2    0    3    8    26    4   13    1    0    .254    .313    .441    .753    7.4    4.27
Jon Jay    25   89   14   27    5    1    2    5    40    3   12    0    2    .303    .344    .449    .793   13.5    5.30
Lance Berkman    25   91   16   34    5    1    1   13    44   14   16    2    2    .374    .457    .484    .941   19.7    8.88

Daniel Descalso  24   33    3   10    0    1    0    1    12    2    4    0    0    .303    .361    .364    .725    4.7    5.09
Allen Craig    20   52   12   17    4    0    5   12    36    2   11    0    0    .327    .364    .692   1.056   11.5    8.43
Ryan Theriot    19   31    3    7    3    1    0    5    12    5    3    0    1    .226    .333    .387    .720    3.0    2.76
Adron Chambers   18    8    2    3    0    1    0    4     5    0    1    0    0    .375    .375    .625   1.000    1.7    9.36
Corey Patterson 17    9    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    3    0    0    .000    .100    .000    .100   -0.5   -1.29
Nick Punto    16   26    4    8    2    0    1    7    13    6    6    0    0    .308    .424    .500    .924    6.1    7.89
Shane Robinson    9    7    0    0    0    0    0    0     0    1    2    0    0    .000    .125    .000    .125   -0.7   -2.52
Tyler Greene    7    2    3    2    1    0    0    2     3    0    0    2    0   1.000   1.000   1.500   2.500    2.1    0.00
Gerald Laird    6   13    2    3    1    0    0    1    4    2    3    0    0    .231    .333    .308    .641    1.5    4.08
Edwin Jackson†   6   11    1    3    0    0    0    1    3    0    4    0    1    .273    .250    .273    .523    0.4    1.19
Chris Carpenter   6   15    0    2    0    0    0    4     2    0    6    0    0    .133    .133    .133    .267   -0.2   -0.41
Jake Westbrook    5    5    0    0    0    0    0    0     0    0    4    0    0    .000    .000    .000    .000   -0.4   -1.38
Jaime Garcia    5   11    0    1    0    0    0    1    1    0    5    0    0    .091    .091    .091    .182   -0.5   -1.43
Tony Cruz    4    3    0    1    0    0    0    0    1    0    0    0    0    .333    .333    .333    .667    0.3    4.55
Kyle Lohse     4    8    1    3    1    0    0    0     4    0    2    0    0    .375    .375    .500    .875    1.5    6.56
Brandon Dickson   2    2    1    1    0    0    0    0    1    0    1    0    0    .500    .500    .500   1.000    0.4   12.04
                                                                           
Totals     26  889  128  261   54    6   25  122   402   80  151   13    7    .294    .354    .452    .807  138.9    5.48

Lance Berkman and Yadier Molina provided excellent support for Albert the Great, and Allen Craig did a fine job filling in for Matt Holliday over the last two weeks.

But even more important than the increased offense was the way the Cardinals' pitchers stepped up during the final month. They had been allowing 4.34 runs per game - they cut that down to 3.88, and this was mainly the work of their starters. None of them pitched poorly, and three of them - Lohse, Carpenter, and Garcia, who went a collective 8-0 - were very good indeed. The bullpen had some issues during the final month, but not enough to derail them...

NAME              GP   GS    W    L   SV  HLD    IP      H   ER   HR   BB   SO    WHIP    ERA

Kyle Lohse    4    4    2    0    0    0    26.1   25    4    0    5   22    1.14    1.37
Chris Carpenter    6    6    3    0    0    0    46    37   11    3    8   37    0.98    2.15
Jaime Garcia    5    5    3    0    0    0    30.2   30    9    2    4   24    1.11    2.64
Edwin Jackson     6    5    1    0    0    0    32.2   39   13    1   11   24    1.53    3.58
Jake Westbrook    5    5    1    2    0    0    23    29   11    1   12   20    1.78    4.30

Octavio Dotel     15    0    3    1    1    3    12.1    7    5    1    2   16    0.73    3.65
Marc Rzepczynski 15    0    0    3    0    5    10.2   12    9    1    8   17    1.88    7.59
Jason Motte    14    0    2    0    8    1    13.1   11    7    1    4   14    1.13    4.73
Fernando Salas    12    0    0    1    1    3    12.1   10    3    1    4   11    1.14    2.19
Kyle McClellan    12    0    2    1    0    1    11.2   12   10    5    6    6    1.54    7.71
Arthur Rhodes     10    0    0    0    0   1     4.1    4    2    1    1    3    1.15    4.15
Mitchell Boggs    6    0    0    0    0    0     6    5    2    0    2    2    1.17    3.00
Brandon Dickson    2    1    0    0    0    0     4.1    7    3    2    1    5    1.85    6.23
Eduardo Sanchez    1    0    1    0    0    0    1.1    0    0    0    0    2    0.00    0.00
Maikel Cleto    1    0    0    0    0    0     1    1    0    0    0    2    1.00    0.00

Totals    26   26   18    8   10   14   236    229   82   19   68  205    1.26    3.13


Of these four teams, the Cardinals were the one that made a big move at the trading deadline. You'd have to say it worked out just great for them. Their big trade with the Blue Jays netted them Edwin Jackson, who went 5-2, 3.78 and filled the gap left by Adam Wainwright's injury. Marc Rzepczynski didn't really pitch any better than Trever Miller had for the Cardinals, but he was adequate and did give them quite a few more innings. Octavio Dotel was a big upgrade on Miguel Batista. Acquiring these pitchers did cost them centre fielder Colby Rasmus, but that just let LaRussa officially give the CF job to Jon Jay, who played better for the Cardinals than Rasmus had anyway.
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bpoz - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 10:05 AM EDT (#245034) #
Great analysis Magpie. I still cannot believe it. Other than firing the pitching coach, I don't know what they can do. A lot of their team is set.

Does anyone know if their sellout streak is still intact.
Chuck - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 10:26 AM EDT (#245037) #
bpoz, there is much grumbling in Boston, as one might imagine. There is talk that Francona may not want his option picked up. There is talk of clubhouse dissent which might result in roster shuffling.

One suspects that Boston fans and media are still in the throes of emotional turbulence, so talk of radical changes might cool as time passes and judgment becomes less clouded by disappointment.

Still, it should be a very interesting off-season.
BlueJayWay - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 10:36 AM EDT (#245038) #
I think it's pretty amazing the Jays finished only 9 games back of Boston.  That's still pretty far, but at the beginning of the year the Red Sox were already crowned Team of the Century or something and the Jays were still "rebuilding", and had just traded Marcum and Wells in the off season.  To only finish single digits back....would anyone have guessed?
greenfrog - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 10:57 AM EDT (#245043) #
Francona reportedly gone as the Red Sox manager. Apparently the decision was made by John Henry.

Could Epstein end up as the Cubs GM? It seems like a great opportunity if he's interested.
greenfrog - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:04 AM EDT (#245046) #
Comment from KLaw chat yesterday:

Mark (Toronto)
Colby Rasmus seemed lost ever since he came to the Jays. Is there something mechanically wrong that can be fixed, does he just need more time to adjust or is it a sign of bigger problems?

Klaw (1:24 PM)
His lower half has gotten really noisy - I see no reason they can't fix him but he'll need some work, and we'll get a real test now of whether he's actually "coachable" or not.
bpoz - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:14 AM EDT (#245048) #
Good points Bauxites !!

Francona gone, I would love it if some how Cito became the manager.

They have some great hitters. As magpie said the offense is not the problem.

Pitching coach out?
There may be some pitchers whose contracts can be troublesome to shuffle.

The Red Sox Nation PR is going to have to work OT. OR Will those poor suffering fans stay?
Matthew E - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:17 AM EDT (#245049) #
I also would like it if Cito Gaston became the Red Sox manager, but possibly not for the same reason you have.
greenfrog - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:23 AM EDT (#245051) #
Adding to my Jays' roundup this morning. For those interested in BA's prospect rankings, an interesting tweet by Jim Callis of BA:

jimcallisBA Jim Callis
Seventh, between Taillon and Yelich. @richwilsonfsg: Where would Jake Marisnick rank if you combined the SAL and MWL #BlueJays
18 hours ago
Rich - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:23 AM EDT (#245052) #
It seems to me like there is an awful lot of movement with Rasmus's hands, a strange kind of hitch.  It looks awkward and whenever he does square the ball up I find myself being surprised.  He's likely always hit this way but to my eyes every swing looks like it will be a pop-up.

In answer to your question, "What Happened?", I'd say, the Wild Card happened.  For years now several analysts, notably Joe Sheehan and some others at BP have moaned about how the Wild Card just cheats us of potentially great division races (sometimes true) and is a lousy idea.  Maybe I've missed it, but those who have been bashing the current system should at least give MLB some credit for this finish.

John Northey - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:27 AM EDT (#245053) #
As a Jays fan all I can say is - please, please, please, please, please let Epstein and Francona leave Boston and go to the NL somewhere.

If Boston loses some of its top executives then odds are the new guy will either A) do some rash decisions in an effort to put his stamp on the team or B) go into a rebuild mode for a year or two (honeymoon period). Either could help the Jays drastically. Plus Epstein has done a lot of very good moves over the years and moving him away from this division has to be a plus.

Looking at Boston it seems they just ran into injuries and bad luck. 3 guys in the rotation with 120+ ERA+'s, 5 regulars with 120+ OPS+'s (3 at 140+). If only the Jays had those type of issues.

Scutaro could be a free agent (type B) if the Red Sox decide he isn't worth $6 mil and would rather toss out $1.5 mil in his buyout (spread of $4.5 mil) - I suspect they'll keep him.

As to Jays status, via http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/2010-11-reverse-engineered-elias-rankings.html
Kelly Johnson finished as a type B, barely (just shy of A status) which increases the odds of him leaving (teams will not lose a pick if they sign him). Encarnacion is no compensation if leaving thus will be kept I suspect. Molina is safely in B status. Franciso, Rauch, and Camp are all clear B's. Other guys who are B's (no options) that are free agents so the Jays might trade/offer arb/say bye bye to are Joel Zumaya, Mark Buehrle, Bruce Chen, Freddy Garcia, Wilson Betemit, Vladimir Guerrero, Jason Kubel, David DeJesus, Magglio Ordonez, and Juan Pierre for the AL. NL's B's are Rod Barajas, Raul Ibanez, Derrek Lee, Ryan Ludwick, Cody Ross, Carlos Pena, Pat Burrell, Aramis Ramirez, Mark Ellis, Alex Gonzalez, Clint Barmes, Hiroki Kuroda, Edwin Jackson, Javier Lopez, and Kerry Wood.

If a team intends to resign a guy, and know he wants to come back, then it is worth it to them to call the Jays, get $500k for him, Jays offer arbitration and the original team resigns him (they talk with him first to be sure he understands what is happening). They get $500k they wouldn't have had otherwise while the Jays get a draft pick and the player stays where he wants to be - heck, the team could split the $500k with the player if they want. Wins all around.
hypobole - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:31 AM EDT (#245054) #

at the beginning of the year the Red Sox were already crowned Team of the Century or something

How about "Team of This Century and Last Century". If someone already posted this, I apologize.

http://www.nesn.com/2011/01/2011-red-sox-will-challenge-1927-yankees-for-title-of-greatest-team-in-major-league-history.html

 To a Theo - The best laid schemes o' mice an' men, Gang aft agley, An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain."

hypobole - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:35 AM EDT (#245055) #

I also would like it if Cito Gaston became the Red Sox manager, but possibly not for the same reason you have.

Rimshot

greenfrog - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 11:40 AM EDT (#245056) #
I'm really happy with the potential comp picks again in 2012. It's too bad KJ didn't end up as a Type A, but the Jays could have as many as five supplemental round picks (as compensation for Johnson, Molina, Francisco, Rauch, Camp). Add that to two first-round picks, and the Jays are looking at another potential draft bonanza next summer.

AA and Farrell did an excellent job of boosting Camp's Elias ranking in the last couple of weeks of the season, just pushing him into Type B territory. Nice work.
hypobole - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 12:03 PM EDT (#245057) #
John, the one name that really sticks out, in your list of Type B's and would  be the best fit for need is Javier Lopez. Although his BB/9 are a bit high and his K/9 a bit low, he did hold lefties to a .163/.245/.185 slash line. With the losses of Downs and Rzep the past year, we have almost no LH relief. He may end up being offered more than he's worth, as I assume other teams have a similar need, but definitely should be pursued.
Thomas - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#245078) #
As a Jays fan all I can say is - please, please, please, please, please let Epstein and Francona leave Boston and go to the NL somewhere.

I don't see a strong case for Francona being a particularly effective manager. While there is always a chance a new manager is hired who turns out to be unsuited to the task, I think the Red Sox will not miss a beat if they promote Hale or hire Sandy Alomar, Dave Martinez or Jose Oquendo or anyone else.

I also don't think that losing Epstein would hurt Boston as much as you do, although I think there's no chance he's fired (the only way he's not Boston's GM is if he resigns or asks to be released from his contract to go to Chicago). They have a strong front office and it is reportedly very cohesive unit and I don't think anything drastic would change if they promoted Cherington. Henry is a big proponent of analysis, method and "Moneyball" (however you want to characterize that term) and there's no chance Boston would hire a Sabean-type to run the team.

spud77 - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 01:45 PM EDT (#245079) #
Yes, but people forget that they not only had an awful September; they also had an awful April. They had an awesome record in between so people forget how terribly they started out of the gates
Chuck - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 01:52 PM EDT (#245080) #
there's no chance Boston would hire a Sabean-type to run the team.

Maybe Billy Beane, like Henry wanted to do so many years ago. Failing that, maybe Brad Pitt?
AWeb - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:00 PM EDT (#245081) #
I know this would be easy to look up, but wouldn't the Jays have to offer arbitration to the type B guys to get a draft pick? Of Johnson, Molina, Francisco, Rauch, and Camp, which ones are you OK with possibly being stuck with at a decent salary? I'll take the first three, but Rauch and Camp would be fools to turn down an offer of guaranteed ML employment - RHers relievers who are average (88 and 102 ERA+ this year), don't throw hard, and don't strike guys out aren't exactly hard to find for cheap. I let them walk, rather than risk having to pay them or taking up a bullpen spot that could be used to develop a younger guy (note to Blue Jays - it's OK to bring young pitchers up and put them in the pen for a year or two).
Magpie - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#245082) #
I don't see a strong case for Francona being a particularly effective manager.

I think more highly of him, but making a change may be a good idea anyway. Most managers, even the best, will have a limited shelf life. Like con men, they're best off if they don't stay in the same town too long.
John Northey - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:14 PM EDT (#245083) #
Well, players accepting arbitration take the risk the team cuts them in the spring, leaving them high and dry with just 1/6th of their salary locked in (iirc). Not a good situation for a middle man.

As to the Jays, having Camp ($2.25 this year) or Rauch ($3.5 this year) for another year won't hurt much and their cost would hardly kill the budget. Camp was very effective in 2009/2010 so he could easily rebound in 2012. Rauch likewise was very effective in 2009/2010. Relievers by their nature will fluctuate a lot in their stats (few innings). A net of $6-7 million (at worst) for your 6/7th guys in the pen won't prevent anything and if they suck in the spring it might cost around $1 mil to dump them. Not a bad risk for 2 first round picks.
hypobole - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:15 PM EDT (#245084) #

If AA/Farrell went through the machinations other posters have suggested to get Camp into Type B status, I seriously doubt they wouldn't offer him arb.

As for Rauch, there may have been a handshake agreement that arb would be offered and declined. If not, I have to agree letting him walk would be the prudent move.

AWeb - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:21 PM EDT (#245086) #

Like con men, they're best off if they don't stay in the same town too long.

Oh, a Tim Johnson reference!

Gerry - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:31 PM EDT (#245096) #
The Red Sox pitchers table is interesting.  There are 12 pitchers with 10 or more innings pitched in september.  Other than Aceves and Scott Atchison the next best ERA is 5.25.  Ouch.
Mick Doherty - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:39 PM EDT (#245097) #

hire Sandy Alomar, Dave Martinez or Jose Oquendo

A non-white manager in Boston? Well, they were the final team to break the color barrier with players (Pu,psie Green, we hardly knew ye) ... I think -- correct me if I am wrong, someone -- the only non-white head coaches or managers in Boston professional sports history  have been Bill Russell and KC Jones with the Celtics, but perhaps I am forgetting someone ....

Magpie - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:43 PM EDT (#245098) #
There are 12 pitchers with 10 or more innings pitched in September.

It's not like Francona wasn't looking for the guy who could fix things....

I don't know if a goat will be agreed upon - Red Sox nation seems to be reeling towards blaming Francona or Lackey or Crawford (I told ya! I told everyone that was a terrible signing! And did anyone believe me?). The dreadful work turned in by Daniel Bard does merit special mention. They may just blame fate, some new curse of New England. Driving Manny away....

In Atlanta, it's pretty easy. Derek Lowe, we're looking at you. You and your manager, too.
Magpie - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#245099) #
Bill Russell and KC Jones with the Celtics, but perhaps I am forgetting someone ....

Besides Doc Rivers?
vw_fan17 - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#245103) #
Yes, but people forget that they not only had an awful September; they also had an awful April.

IIRC, at the time, the consensus seemed to be that, despite their bad April, the Sox would be there at the end.. Well, they were, but, as it turns out, their bad April DID come back to bite them.
greenfrog - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 03:12 PM EDT (#245109) #
Weren't Crawford and Figgins the two big FA signings that Mike Wilner was advocating heavily for in recent years? Ouch.
Mick Doherty - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 03:20 PM EDT (#245111) #

Besides Doc Rivers?

See? That's why you have to spell my name starting with "Doh!"

uglyone - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 03:26 PM EDT (#245113) #
I hate to pate myself on the back (well, maybe I don't hate it all that much) but I wondered why the Red Sox were getting so hyped coming into this season even back then.

This is a team that finished 3rd with 89 wins last year, and their offseason consisted of shipping out two of their best players (Beltre 7.0war, Martinez 3.8war), and adding in two guys that maybe you could have expected 5-6 war each from in Crawford and Gonzalez. Pretty much an even swap. Other than that, all they did was shuffle some depth players. They once again entered this season as one of the oldest and most injured teams in the league, too. And then they ended up finishing with.....90 wins. Quelle surprise. somehow the narrative became that this team was greatly improved so that they were prohibitive favorites to win it all this year, and I never quite understood that. Good team with a chance to win it all? sure. Great team that were favorites to win it all? I never thought so.

And now the post-season narrative has become that this was a great team that just suffered one inexplicable awful month at the end of the year, which is just plain wrong, IMO. There is no reason to think that the last 7-20 month was anymore anomalous than their 20-6 July, when they had 5 guys hitting like MVPs plus a bunch of depth players like Salty/Tek and Reddick hitting like elite players while their top-2 pitchers were near unhittable and their bullpen was near perfect. Just as many things went right when they were at their hottest as went wrong when they were at their coldest, IMO. Overall for their year, I'd say they had two great overacheiving months (JUN/JUL), two very good "expected" months in MAY/AUG, and two underachieving bad months in APR/SEP. No significant underachieving overall, IMO. Just as many things went right this year (i.e. Ellsbury, Ortiz, Beckett, Papelbon all having amazing elite comeback years) as went wrong this year (i.e. Lackey and Crawford imploding, Buchholzand Jenks getting injured).
greenfrog - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 04:29 PM EDT (#245126) #
I don't know, putrid September team stats aside, they just about eked into the playoffs. If Youkilis or Buchholz is healthy in Aug/Sept, they probably beat out the Rays, at which point you'd have to call their season reasonably successful. And who could have predicted that Crawford would be this terrible, no good, and very bad? If he plays 5% better (putting him well below his career average), that alone probably also gets them into the postseason.

I'm no Red Sox apologist (I much prefer the Rays), but they had a promising team this year, despite a few flaws (the back of the rotation, in particular).
Thomas - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 04:32 PM EDT (#245127) #
A non-white manager in Boston?

I was just throwing out the names of three of the top managerial candidates. I didn't even think of the race angle, but that's something to consider and I'm glad you made that connection, Mick. If I was running a team, Dave Martinez would be at the top of my list this offseason, knowing only what one can know from the outside. (Last year it was Ron Roenicke, who lead his team to the playoffs this season, although I don't have a good sense of what Milwaukee fans think of his managerial ability.)

My assessment of Francona may have been a bit harsh and I think Magpie's point about him "wearing out his welcome" is probably a better reading of the situation. He was certainly an above average manager for many years in Boston. Nevertheless, although he got a lot of praise, I never saw anything that made me think that he was one of the best three managers in the game, which I believe without a doubt applies to Joe Maddon, for example.

uglyone - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 04:42 PM EDT (#245131) #
I don't know, putrid September team stats aside, they just about eked into the playoffs. If Youkilis or Buchholz is healthy in Aug/Sept, they probably beat out the Rays, at which point you'd have to call their season reasonably successful. And who could have predicted that Crawford would be this terrible, no good, and very bad? If he plays 5% better (putting him well below his career average), that alone probably also gets them into the postseason.

When's the last time Youk was healthy for a season? The Red Sox were healthier this year than last year, and that's even with one of the oldest and most injured teams heading into the season.

and who could have predicted Ellsbury, Gonzo, Pedroia, Paps, Ort, Beckett would all have career or near career years?
Mike Green - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 05:13 PM EDT (#245136) #
The Red Sox went 7-20 in September.  During that 27 game span, they won games by scores of 14-0, 18-6 and 18-9.  The offence produced but was highly inefficient.  You won't usually find 3 blowout wins in the middle of a losing spell.  For the season, the Sox fell 4 wins short of Pythagoras.  This year, that turned out to be important.
Magpie - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 05:50 PM EDT (#245141) #
who could have predicted that Crawford would be this terrible

Please allow me to introduce myself...

Okay, not quite this bad. I merely pointed out that he was a leftfielder with a career OPS+ of 107, that he'd never hit very well in Boston, and his greatest defensive asset was of little use in Fenway Park.
Thomas - Friday, September 30 2011 @ 06:02 PM EDT (#245147) #
During that 27 game span, they won games by scores of 14-0, 18-6 and 18-9. The offence produced but was highly inefficient.

I don't feel that this is as unusual as it may have seem, given that it was September. For example, in their victory over the Jays, the Red Sox scored four runs off Danny Farquhar. When losing 10-0, a team will often put their worst reliever (if he's available) in the game, but in September these pitchers may be the 10th man on the bullpen depth chart, instead of the 6th or 7th.

Glevin - Saturday, October 01 2011 @ 05:08 AM EDT (#245163) #
Boston's starters had an ERA of over 7.00 in September. That's why they blew it. Having to start Wakefield, Miller, Lackey, Weiland, and Bedard was a killer. Atlanta is even more understandable. They lost two of their top three starters. You can hardly reasonably blame Derek Lowe who was the team's fourth or fifth starter, for the team's collapse.
Magpie - Saturday, October 01 2011 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#245171) #
They lost two of their top three starters. You can hardly reasonably blame Derek Lowe

Oh yes you can! The guys who filled in for Jurrjens and Hanson (Delgado and Minor) were the Braves best starters in September. They didn't really lose anything there. But alas for the Braves, Lowe made 5 starts and went 0-5, 8.75...
PeteMoss - Saturday, October 01 2011 @ 03:26 PM EDT (#245177) #
Probably should've yanked him from the rotation if that's the case.


As for Boston.. they really should have moved Aceves to the rotation when they suffered all those injuries. I also worry for Aceves arm in the future as they pretty much ran him into the ground (Bard and Papelbon were also worked like crazy)
bpoz - Sunday, October 02 2011 @ 09:27 AM EDT (#245193) #
Is the Red Sox 89 & 90 win seasons really reflecting their true capability? If so then they are not that 96 win beast we have to compete against any more.
Also TB 91 wins is not scary. For TB the 2008 & 2010 seasons are AL East Beastly.

The Jays still only win at about .350 against Inter League, NYY, Boston & TB. That has to improve. Better still the Jays must build to over .500 against that group before we are a serious long term competitor.

So the Jays will need their "Dream team" of young, controllable, talented players to somehow evolve or come into existence. Right now only R Romero qualifies. J Bautista qualifies if he is considered young.
The evolving part has a lot of potential led by Laurie & H Alvarez. Possibly by July 31st 2012 some of the "potential" will prove "qualified" based on their history.
The players that are teasing us could successfully upgrade to Qualified like Morrow & Lind OR downgrade to another category of "still uncertain/look for something better".

IMO the candidates in these 3 categories will change. I would be disappointed if the farm or trades failed to swell the list of "potential" candidates in 2012. Its possible but a long shot for Qualified to increase by FA (Pujols) or trades King Felix. IMO any Closer acquired still has to prove that he can do it in the AL East. Even Eric Gagne would start each season as "slightly below certain", with certain being below 100%.

As bench players there would be another category which is beyond my current understanding. Teahen, McCoy & Wise would have to be on a completely different scale as Cooper & Loewen if bench players because of the unknown regarding the latter.
uglyone - Sunday, October 02 2011 @ 05:45 PM EDT (#245198) #
Boston's starters had an ERA of over 7.00 in September. That's why they blew it. Having to start Wakefield, Miller, Lackey, Weiland, and Bedard was a killer. Atlanta is even more understandable. They lost two of their top three starters. You can hardly reasonably blame Derek Lowe who was the team's fourth or fifth starter, for the team's collapse.

Sorry, that's too easy. Can't just blame injuries. Lester and Beckett in September:

  • Lester: 6gs, 5.1ip/gs, 1.61whip, 5.40era
  • Beckett: 5gs, 5.2ip/gs, 1.35whip, 5.48era
  • Richard S.S. - Sunday, October 02 2011 @ 07:12 PM EDT (#245200) #

    The Jays still only win at about .350 against Inter League, NYY, Boston & TB.

    To improve in Inter-League play (8-10) is easy.  Start pitchers hitting (at least batting practise) in Spring Training and continue hitting (daily, if necessary) throughout the year.

    To improve verses NYY (8-10), BOS (7-11) and TAM (6-12) will be harder.   Properly done, 3 quality pitchers for the late innings (Closer, Setup / Backup Closer, Fireman) and 3 good long men will be a strong enough Bullpen.   That will increase the Bench, which can be beneficial.   You could easily gain 5-10 games, just doing this.   How much that gets done, here and elsewhere, determines future gains.   A.A. will do as much as he can, as soon as he can, but that can take time.

    Magpie - Sunday, October 02 2011 @ 10:56 PM EDT (#245202) #
    To improve in Inter-League play (8-10) is easy.  Start pitchers hitting (at least batting practise) in Spring Training and continue hitting (daily, if necessary) throughout the year.

    You're kidding right? God, I hope so...

    For the record, here are the hitting stats for AL pitchers this past season:

    RK    TEAM          AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB   RBI   BAVG    OBP    SLG     OPS
    1    Baltimore    22    3    9    2    0    1   14    3    .409    .409   .636   1.045
    2    LA Angels    17    1    4    0    0    0    4    1    .235    .235   .235    .471
    3    Seattle    25    1    5    1    0    0    6    1    .200    .200   .240    .440
    4    Minnesota    20    0    3    1    0    0    4    1    .150    .190   .200    .390
    5    Texas    24    1    3    1    1    0    6    0    .125    .125   .250    .375
    6    Cleveland    19    0    3    0    0    0    3    1    .158    .158   .158    .316
    7    Chicago Sox  18    0    1    1    0    0    2    0    .056    .150   .111    .261
    8    Toronto    23    1    2    0    0    0    2    2    .087    .125   .087    .212
    9    Tampa Bay    20    0    1    0    0    0    1    1    .050    .095   .050    .145
    10    Boston     21    0    1    1    0    0    2    1    .048    .048   .095    .143
    11    Detroit     21    0    1    0    0    0    1    0    .048    .048   .048    .095
    12    NY Yankees   16    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    .000    .059   .000    .059
    13    Kansas City 14    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    .000    .000   .000    .000
    14    Oakland    18    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    .000    .000   .000    .000
    In that number of at bats, it wouldn't make a whole lot of difference if you had Babe Ruth hitting for the pitchers...
    Mike Green - Monday, October 03 2011 @ 09:54 AM EDT (#245209) #
    David Laurilia is a fine interviewer, and this week he talked to Matt Moore. Highly recommended.
    bpoz - Monday, October 03 2011 @ 10:08 AM EDT (#245210) #
    Thanks for responding Richard SS.
    Magpie, You are saying the #ABs for AL pitchers is insignificant, if I understand you correctly. Going into details, assuming about 22ABs for pitchers in 18gms is only a little over 1AB per gm. Which league won inter league play. The home field advantage would be 3 fold...home field, Pitcher & DH.
    Because I do not have the skills to do the detailed research, I am going to make assumptions. I sincerely hope only a few of my assumptions will be cause for a great deal of laughter. Of course I will not know which ones they are.

    We won 29 of 72 games so that is .400% against that group of opponents.
    Our Inter league is 8 of 18, .444% wins. And 11 of 18 is .600%. So Inter League could be significant in a close race. I believe Minnesota usually does well in Inter League, I think Magpie mentions Inter League in his Pythogaras Study. But we would want Inter League W/L as a direct factor for close rivals, the NL West would be the most interesting comparison as there never seems to be a pre season favorite IMO.

    Baltimore could skew the AL East direct competition. 18 gms each is significant. They are clearly weak, but they won 5 of 7 gms against Boston in Sept this year . In 2010 the Jays cleaned up against Baltimore.

    My research may be wrong. We lost 2 of 3 to both Houston & Pittsburgh, swept St Louis And were swept by Atlanta. This is a weak conclusion IMO but we could have had a winning inter league record this year if we could have handled Pittsburgh & Houston.

    So what do we know this year & historically? Um... that is a question for you guys, I will do my best as I am sure J & B Molina do when they come in to pinch run with RISP.

    So here goes:-
    1) Inter league could have historically decided the winner of divisions other than the AL East.
    2) Baltimore's AL East record could have decided the post season results recently, 4 years, for NYY, TB and lowly Boston.
    Original Ryan - Monday, October 03 2011 @ 10:55 AM EDT (#245213) #
    To follow up on what Magpie wrote, this year the Blue Jays were 3-6 in interleague games at home with the D.H. They were actually a game over .500 in N.L. parks. The pitchers' bats were not the cause of the 8-10 record.
    Geoff - Monday, October 03 2011 @ 10:57 AM EDT (#245214) #
    Rather impressive from that table to see how many runs Jennings scored for the Rays given that all his other offensive numbers are quite putrid.

    And I'm surprised not more has been made in all the Boston hand-wringing about the Jays taking John Farrell from the Red Sox. Chalk another one up to the genius of AA! Dismantling his opponents as well as building up his own team. Mark another move in the "very shrewd" column.

    Chuck - Monday, October 03 2011 @ 01:16 PM EDT (#245237) #

    Rather impressive from that table to see how many runs Jennings scored for the Rays given that all his other offensive numbers are quite putrid.

    Putrid? An end-of-the-season 0-for-25 (or some such) dropped Jennings' numbers to 259/356/449, OPS+ 128.

    If that's putrid, I'll take a boxful.

    Chuck - Monday, October 03 2011 @ 01:18 PM EDT (#245238) #
    Unless you're just talking about his September numbers. In which case, never mind.
    Geoff - Monday, October 03 2011 @ 03:56 PM EDT (#245263) #
    Yes, just the 17 hits in 106 AB with 13 walks and a .504 OPS for the month.  He's very talented, but I can't imagine it happens often that a guy scores 21 runs on 17 hits and a .258 OBP in a month.
    I'd seen him in some games and he is certainly quite a baserunner, but holy crap! If he can have such a down month and score that often while barely getting on base at a .250 clip, everyone will want a leadoff hitter like that.



    smcs - Monday, October 03 2011 @ 08:26 PM EDT (#245278) #
    He's very talented, but I can't imagine it happens often that a guy scores 21 runs on 17 hits and a .258 OBP in a month.

    Yeah, BJ Upton and Evan Longoria had really, really good Septembers.
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