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Consider Brandon Morrow.

Here's a man with blessed with a tremendous right arm. That's just a start, of course. But Morrow is also a bright and dedicated young man, a player who wants to get better and is willing to work as hard as it takes.

And he's still 9-9, and his ERA is still well above the league average.

Pat Tabler actually got to the root of Morrow's problems during the broadcast. Morrow does nothing to mess with the hitter's timing. His two best pitches - fastball and slider - are both hard. Well, this is the major leagues and being able to throw hard will get you a tryout and not much else. Most major leaguers can hit hard stuff - that's why they're here, too. Hitters like to see fastballs, and they like trying to hit them. It's when the breaking balls come out that they start yelling from the dugout to "pitch like a man" and so forth. (They do. Really.)

Meanwhile, Morrow's been working on his changeup - he wants to get better, he really does - and some days it works for him and some days it doesn't. But until he can actually count on being able to change speeds effectively, until he's mastered what is, really, one of the basic fundamentals of pitching - well, this is what he is.

Before the Tampa series started, John Farrell was speaking, with what he admitted was extreme optimism, about possibly reaching 88 wins. After being whipped three days running by the Devil Fishies, that obviously looks extremely unlikely now. They'd have to go 22-7 the rest of the way, and the schedule looks like this:

ROAD 14 - @ BAL (3), @ NYY (3) @ BOS (2) @ TAM (3) @ CWS (3)
HOME 15 - TAM (1) BOS (4), BAL (3), NYY (3), LAA (4)

The Orioles are the only bad team there. Roughly half the games remaining are against the Yankees, Red Sox, or Angels - three teams with plenty at stake this month. I think they'll do well to finish at .500...

And yes. It matters.

Oh well. I was amusing myself with the lists of all-time leaders and I thought it would be fun to look at these things chronologically. For example: twenty-five men have hit 500 HRs in the major leagues. This means, of course, that a 500th career home run has been hit exactly twenty-five times. Here are those occasions:

 1. Babe Ruth (34)         August 11 1929      vs Willis Hudin (CLE) 

 2. Jimmie Foxx (32) September 24 1940 vs George Caster (PHA)
 3. Mel Ott (36) August 1 1945 vs Johnny Hutchings (BOS)

 4. Ted Williams (41) June 17 1960 vs Wynn Hawkins (CLE)
 5. Willie Mays (34) September 13 1965 vs Don Nottebart (HST)
 6. Mickey Mantle (35) May 14 1967 vs Stu Miller (BAL)
 7. Ed Mathews (35) July 14 1967 vs Juan Marichal (SFG)
 8. Henry Aaron (34) July 14 1968 vs Mike McCormick (SFG)

 9. Ernie Banks (39) May 12 1970 vs Pat Jarvis (ATL)
10. Harmon Killebrew (35) August 10 1971 vs Mike Cuellar (BAL)
11. Frank Robinson (36) September 13 1971 vs Fred Scherman (DET)
12. Willie McCovey (40) June 30 1978 vs Jamie Easterly (ATL)

13. Reggie Jackson (38) September 17 1984 vs Bud Black (KCR)
14. Mike Schmidt (37) April 18 1987 vs Don Robinson (PGH)

15. Eddie Murray (40) September 6 1996 vs Felipe Lira (DET)
16. Mark McGwire (35) August 5 1999 vs Andy Ashby (LAD)

17. Barry Bonds (36) April 17 2001 vs Terry Adams (LAD)
18. Sammy Sosa (34) April 4 2003 vs Scott Sullivan (CIN)
19. Rafael Palmeiro (38) May 11 2003 vs Dave Elder (CLE)
20. Ken Griffey (34) June 20 2004 vs Matt Morris (STL)
21. Frank Thomas (39) June 28 2007 vs Carlos Silva (MIN)
22. Alex Rodriguez (32) August 4 2007 vs Kyle Davies (KCR)
23. Jim Thome (37) September 16 2007 vs Dustin Moseley
24. Manny Ramirez (36) May 31 2008 vs Chad Bradford (BAL)
25. Gary Sheffield (40) April 17 2009 vs Mitch Stetter (MIL)

And, sonovagun, I actually learned something from doing this! I remarked once that Henry Aaron was something of the stealth candidate to break Ruth's record - no one saw him coming for the record until he was practically there. The obvious reason, which I was always aware of, was the large shadow cast by Aaron's near contemporaries Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle - who were only the two greatest, most celebrated players in the game. They were the ones people wondered about, they were the obvious candidates to hit 715 homers. As both Mays and Mantle (born in 1931) were almost three years older than Aaron (born early in 1934), their counting numbers were always a few seasons better than the Hammer's. Which is partially why Aaron snuck up on everyone (that, and a timely late-career move to Fulton County Stadium.) But what I had completely forgotten was that Aaron's own teammate, Eddie Mathews (born late in 1931), actually made it to 500 homers before Aaron himself.

No wonder no one saw him coming.

Babe Ruth - who else? - was the first of them all. He had become the all-time HR leader way back on July 18 1921. That was when he hit career homer 139 off Bert Cole of Detroit, moving him past Roger Connor who had been the career leader since 1895. Connor held the record for 26 years, which is a long time. Ruth would spend the next 14 years padding that total, would get past 500 homers at the end of 1929, and he would end up standing atop the HR leader board for the next 53 years. Which is a really long time.

It would be 11 years before Ruth would have company in the 500 HR club, as no one made it there in the 1930s. And then, after Jimmie Foxx and Mel Ott cleared 500 in the first half of the 1940s, it would be another 15 years before another player made it to the 500 level. Those 15 years are the longest such stretch since Ruth originally broke the ground. It was the Kid himself, Ted Williams, who was the fourth man to clear 500 careers homers, although at age 41 Williams was also the oldest man to hit his 500th homer.

Alex Rodriguez was the youngest, just a week past his 32nd birthday when he hit #500 (Jimmie Foxx was about nine months older.) Nine men cleared 500 homers in the first decade of the new millennium. As is well known, six of those guys (as well as the last man from the preceding century, Mark McGwire) have been linked, one way or another, to PEDs. Leaving just Thome, Griffey, and Thomas untainted. I think Rodriguez and Bonds would certainly have made it without the help, and probably Ramirez as well. But for now anyway, the taint endures...

And who will be next? Seems pretty straightforward - it ought to be Albert Pujols, in May or June 2013.

Anyway - that was fun. And it was pretty easy, too - the mighty baseball-reference.com actually has HR logs for every one of these guys - they even have one for Roger Connor himself.

So I went looking for a challenge. I went looking for the 24 times a pitcher has won the 300th game of his career. These type of Game Logs, for the years before 1920, are not always available. And even the records we have are sometimes unreliable. And you know, I have first-hand experience that even today, the most basic record-keeping at the ball game sometimes goes awry.  I personally saw Alfredo Griffin come in as a defensive replacement and finish a game. But the official scorer didn't notice, sp officially - it never happened. But it did. I assure you, there's no way I, or anyone casting even the most casual glance, could possibly look at Roberto Alomar and believe they were seeing Alfredo Griffin. Just no way at all...

Anyway, the records of these most ancient, ancient contests is often murky and unreliable. Consider the very first man to win 300 games. That, as you all know - don't you - would be the immortal Pud Galvin.

Galvin won his 300th game sometime in 1888, while pitching for the Pittsburgh Alleghenys. BB-ref has their schedule and results, but doesn't provide any information on the winning and losing pitchers. Retrosheet doesn't either - but Retrosheet does list the starting pitchers for each game. Ah-ha! Seeing as how Galvin started 50 games, completed 49, and was involved in the decision every time he took the mound (he went 23-25 and two games ended in a tie) - we can assume, I think, that if we just find the 18th time Pittsburgh won a game that Galvin started... we'll have found the target.

He didn't get off to a great start - by mid June, he appears to have been 2-13 (with 2 ties!). But then he picked it up, and he appears to have won #300 on September 4, 1888 - a 5-4 victory over Indianapolis, which brought his season record to 18-19.

Four more men, who had spent most if not all of their careers pitching at a distance of 50 feet, won their 300th game in the final decade of the 19th century. The next of those, Tim Keefe, actually pitched one year at a distance of 45 feet, worked the bulk of his career pitching at 50 feet, and finished up at the new distance of 60 feet. Keefe and Galvin would hook up four times over the next three years in the first ever games between two 300 game winners. They did this for the last time on July 21, 1892. It wouldn't happen again for almost another 100 years - the next such contest came when Don Sutton and Phil Niekro went against each other in 1986. (This information comes courtesy of baseballlibrary.com, which often provides fun details on the games themselves. And of course it's  very helpful to have another source to check this information against.) Another of these pioneers was the immortal Old Hoss Radbourn, who may have been running on fumes (it was his final season and he'd twice pitched more than 600 innings in a season), but still became the first man to win his 300th by pitching a shutout.

By 1900, the new distance of 60 feet had significantly changed pitching. Two men who had started their careers at the old distance, but survived and thrived at the new one, would make it to 300 wins early in the new century. The first of them, the great Kid Nichols, is still the youngest man ever to reach 300 wins - he was just 30 years old when he got there in July 1900. A year later, the one and only Cy Young joined the club. And here is where things get a little odd. Here is how Baseballlibrary.com describes this achievement:

Jul 5 1901 - Cy Young notches his 300th win in the Boston Americans 5-3 win over the Philadelphia Athletics. Cy gets relief help from Bernhard in topping McPherson.

Alas, no one else seems to believe that Boston was even playing Philadelphia on this day. Young would beat the A's by a 5-3 score about a week later, but that was probably win #301. He had already pitched a 7-0 shutout against Washington on July 6, and that appears to have been his 14th win of the season (and hence the 300th of his career.)

Only one man since Young - and if Young's 300th was the Philadelphia game, only one man since Old Hoss Radbourn - has collected his 300th win by tossing a shutout. And maybe you were there. It happened at Exhibition Stadium on the last day of the 1985 season. Phil Niekro, you may recall, tossed a four-hitter against a bunch of hungover Jays scrubs (they'd clinched the division the day before.) Radbourn, Niekro, and - probably - Young are the only men to pitch shutouts for their 300th win.

However, almost every 300th victory before 1990 was at least a Complete Game. Pete Alexander actually had to pitch 12 innings to win his 300th.  It's the exceptions that stand out. Until 1990, there just three. Or maybe four.

- Walter Johnson, oddly enough, came out of the bullpen to win his 300th. He's the only man to win his 300th as a reliever.

 - I can't be sure about Eddie Plank's 300th - he completed just 23 of his 31 starts, and it was a 12-5 game. He probably went the distance, but who knows? Anything can happen when the St Louis Terriers meet the Newark Peppers. We really consider the Federal League to be a major league? Oh, why not...

- Early Wynn, desperately hanging on to try to get that one last W, is probably the first guy who didn't go the distance in his 300th win - given a 5-1 lead, he staggered through the fifth inning against the hapless A's but made it out with a 5-4 lead and his bullpen hung on for him. He hung around for the rest of the season, working mostly mop-up relief, and never won another game.

- Steve Carlton, late in a pennant race and holding a 6-2 lead, turned the ninth inning over to his bullpen.

But Don Sutton, with a complete game three hitter in 1986, was the last of his kind. None of the five men who have cleared that hurdle in the 25 years since Sutton - Ryan, Clemens, Maddux, Glavine, and Johnson - have finished their game.

Kid Nichols was the youngest man to win his 300th, and Phil Niekro was the oldest. Randy Johnson was almost the oldest; he was certainly, I am well convinced, by far the ugliest. This list, now that I think of it, includes two of the game's All-Time Famous Nice Guys (Mathewson and Johnson), which helps cancel out some of the Notoriously Surly competitors (Clemens, Perry, Wynn) we find roaming free. Steve Carlton wasn't exactly a day at the beach either, but I have to think that Lefty Grove would take the prize as the most intense and ill-tempered of them all.

I suppose either Greg Maddux or Warren Spahn was probably the... least intense? Most relaxed? Goofiest? Those guys were both class clowns. So was Seaver, now that I think of it...

Anyway, here's your chronology of 300th Wins

 1. Pud Galvin (32)          September 4, 1888 5-4 vs Indianapolis

 2. Tim Keefe (33) June 4 1890 9-4 vs Boston
 3. Mickey Welch (31) July 28 1890 4-2 vs PGH
 4. Old Hoss Radbourn (36) May 14 1891 4-0 vs BRO 
 5. John Clarkson (31) September 21 1892 3-2 vs PGH

 6. Kid Nichols (30) July 7 1900 11-4 vs CHI
 7. Cy Young (34) July 6 1901 vs 7-0 vs PHA 

 8. Christy Mathewson (31) June 13 1912 3-2 vs CHI
 9. Eddie Plank (40) September 11 1915 12-5 vs Newark

10. Walter Johnson (32) May 14 1920 9-8 vs DET
11. Pete Alexander (37) September 20 1924 7-3 vs NYG

12. Lefty Grove (41) July 25 1941 10-6 vs CLE 

13. Warren Spahn (40) August 11 1961 2-1 vs CHI
14. Early Wynn (43) July 13 1963 7-4 vs KC 

15. Gaylord Perry (43) May 6 1982 
16. Steve Carlton (38) September 23 1983 6-2 vs StL
17. Tom Seaver (40) August 4 1985 vs NYY 
18. Phil Niekro (46) October 6 1985 8-0 vs TOR 
19. Don Sutton (39) June 18 1986 5-1 vs TEX

20. Nolan Ryan (43) July 31 1990 11-3 vs MIL

21. Roger Clemens (40) June 13 2003 5-2 vs STL
22. Greg Maddux (38) August 7 2004 8-4 vs SFG
23. Tom Glavine (41) August 5 2007 8-3 vs CHC
24. Randy Johnson (45) June 4 2009 5-1 vs WAS
And who's next? This is much trickier. No active pitcher has even managed to amass 200 wins, although Tim Wakefield keeps trying. Unless Roy Halladay gets there around 2019, no one is making it to 300 in this decade. And ultimately, I think both Halladay and Sabathia are going to come up short.
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AWeb - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 08:06 AM EDT (#242602) #

I think Sabathia has a great chance to make it, as long as he sticks around on high scoring teams. Not that he isn't good enough anyway, but he's got 174 wins now, winning 20 a year..he could make it in six years, maybe seven. Obviously everything depends on health, but what milestone doesn't? He just turned 31, if he does stay with the Yankees and stay healthy...David Wells managed 181 wins from his age 31 season on, it's not inconceivable that he could climb the all time wins list to rival Clemens and Maddux.

Watching Morrow lately, I'm convinced he's tipping pitches is some way. To my eye, he's throwing a lot of sliders that don't end up missing the strike zone by much - they seem to behave exactly how you want a slider to, but few guys go fishing for it. He gets lots of Ks anyway, but seemingly without deception. I have no idea if there's a subtle release point difference, or it's too predictable, but something it letting hitters read it too well. Especially out of the stretch, where he continues to, frankly, stink (.590 OPS vs. .818 OPS).

He also doesn't use his 90mph "cutter" much until later in games, I'm not even sure if it's a different pitch, or just a backed-off fastball. But it helps - going from 94, to 90, to 86 (slider speed), that's enough difference to at least get some weak swings. There's obviously a spot for him in the rotation next year, but I think he's off the list of "possible #2 guys" until his results match the peripherals more than once a month. He's officially the "drive you crazy, but too good to not have in the rotation" guy, formerly filled by Escobar, Stottlemyre, Guzman, and most recently, McGowan.

Mike Green - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 09:00 AM EDT (#242603) #
For his career, Brandon Morrow's opponents have hit .214/.312/.335 with nobody on and .263/.353/.424 with runners on.  They've got to change the latter figures somehow. 
ayjackson - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 09:13 AM EDT (#242604) #
I'd feel a lot better about ou rotation if the middling Cecil and Morrow were our #3 and #4 starters, instead of #2 and #3. We really need a #1 or #1a to partner at the top with RR. Then we let the likes of McGowan, Drabek, Villanueva, Perez and Alvarez battle for the #5 spot.

So who are the candidates? I've always been partial to Josh Johnson but am unsure about the condition of his shoulder. Any fantasy owners following his situation?

Who else could be added to the top of our rotation?
92-93 - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 09:22 AM EDT (#242605) #
As I've been saying for awhile now, I don't understand the benefit of having Morrow pitching from the stretch. He can't hold runners on anyway.
Mike Green - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 09:31 AM EDT (#242606) #
In light of AWeb's comment, I checked a little closer on Morrow's splits with runners on second.  He has in fact been really killed with runners on second.  Even if they are giving location, it's a problem for Morrow.

When I saw him shut down the Yankees a couple of months ago after struggling in the early innings, I was impressed with Molina's handling, and particularly with runners on.
Chuck - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 09:35 AM EDT (#242607) #
As I've been saying for awhile now, I don't understand the benefit of having Morrow pitching from the stretch. He can't hold runners on anyway.

Morrow's SB/CS is 16-4. He allows one stolen base every 9 innings. Were he to forego pitching from the stretch, you believe that the presumed increase in stolen bases would be more than offset by his improved pitching?

I can't see this arithmetic working. All baserunners would have free reign to run at will. Singles and walks would become doubles and triples. 

Has any pitcher ever not pitched from the stretch with men on base? (I am not referring to situations where there are two outs and a full count).

AWeb - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 09:41 AM EDT (#242608) #
Would it be considered bad form to have Morrow work from the stretch the rest of the year, runners on or not? It's what he needs to work on - I just hope the coaches have a good idea what is going wrong. His general ineffectiveness with runners on also makes it hard to see him as a possible ace reliever, which the Jays could also use. per Mike G.'s comment, if runners on second are relaying something, could it be pitch type? Morrow does get his pitching hand out of the glove early, although a slider grip isn't the most obvious thing (like a splitfinger), I assume MLB players could see it fairly easily...
John Northey - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 09:43 AM EDT (#242609) #
What is an interesting subplot is what happens if the Jays finish in 16th place in the majors. That would protect their first round pick, and we all know AA loves his first round picks. Would that increase the odds of the Jays signing a type A free agent, or would it decrease it since AA would feel the team was too far from contending still?

Still, with that 'too far out of it' thing - the Rays in 2007 were the worst team in baseball 66-96. The next season they were the #3 team in all of baseball, 97-65. A 31 game improvement. From allowing 5.83 runs a game to 4.14, from scoring 4.83 runs a game to 4.78. IE: the entire game was in the pitching, with a rotation that was all below 27 (no one above the age of 26 started a single game when they made it to the World Series). Meanwhile 4 of their top 5 in the pen were 30+.

What can the Jays learn? That a young staff can make gains fast. Major changes can occur if your kids get it together and right now we are buried in kid pitchers. Maybe not in 2012 but by 2013 we should see a ton of kids banging hard on that door.
Mick Doherty - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 10:28 AM EDT (#242611) #

Famous Nice Guys (Mathewson and Johnson),

Just as a point of clarity, surely you mean Walter, right? The previous sentence in this essay menions Randy, and I don't think anyone puts him on that list, excvept maybe the girls who now mow his yard because he uses Walt Frazier's hair dye ...

AWeb - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 10:50 AM EDT (#242613) #

Still, with that 'too far out of it' thing - the Rays in 2007 were the worst team in baseball 66-96. The next season they were the #3 team in all of baseball, 97-65. A 31 game improvement. From allowing 5.83 runs a game to 4.14, from scoring 4.83 runs a game to 4.78. IE: the entire game was in the pitching, with a rotation that was all below 27 (no one above the age of 26 started a single game when they made it to the World Series). Meanwhile 4 of their top 5 in the pen were 30+.

It's not just the pitching that could suddenly improve (although Tampa really improved defensively that year as well), this is the first Jays team in a while with a lot of black holes of production to improve on. 2B is obvious, CF hasn't been much better, nor has LF for much of the year. 3B appears to have been fixed already. 1B is a spot where the team could stand to make a huge upgrade, as some of us are hoping for. With great performances from Bautista and Escobar, it's kind of been lost that no other position player on the team has had a passably good year aside from Arencibia (pretty average catcher year), Thames and Lawrie. Maybe Encarnacion too. It's a lot like the starting staff situation, with Romero and a few other guys that look OK if you squint really hard...The 2012 Jays could get a lot better

Mike D - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 11:03 AM EDT (#242614) #

After playing solid ball after the All-Star break, the Jays are playing about as poorly as I've seen since the "mutiny" days of late 2009.  They are 2-7 in their last 9 but easily could be -- perhaps even should be -- 0-9 over that stretch.  Their approach at the plate has been terrible and I'd bet that they've never had more swinging strikes over any other 9-game stretch this season.  Combine that with pitchers not keeping the ball in the park and shaky defending...they haven't done anything well since two Romero starts ago, other than the Perez-Janssen masterpiece against the A's when one run was enough to win.

It's been seemingly all downhill in all facets of the game after they let Harden out of the bases loaded, none out jam.

Glevin - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#242616) #
300 wins is now incredibly difficult. It's also incredibly difficult to predict since you generally need to get 100+ wins after the age of 35 to get to 300 and that kind of health is difficult to predict for any pitcher. That said, Sabathia seems like a good bet to get to 300. 10 more years at an average of under 13 wins per year does it.
BalzacChieftain - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 11:31 AM EDT (#242617) #
Pundits will always play the "bad body" card against Sabathia when longevity is concerned, thereby perhaps making Halladay the preferred choice to reach 300 wins.
greenfrog - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 11:38 AM EDT (#242618) #
One of the more interesting defensive suggestions I've read lately (courtesy of Jason Collette on Baseball Prospectus):

"When the Rays met the Angels at a game at Tropicana Field, I made the comment to another writer that I would seriously entertain the thought of Bourjos and Mike Trout manning the gaps and playing a fifth infielder against certain hitters given how much range both guys have."

As the A-Team used to say, that's so crazy, it just might work.
Ron - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 12:12 PM EDT (#242619) #
Bautista and Escobar represent %39 of the teams base on balls. I know the Jays have a grip it and rip it philosophy, but I want to see the hitters be more selective next season. It feels like the opposing starting pitchers pitch into the 7th inning on a pretty frequent basis against the Jays. Calling Magpie...............

The Jays have had trouble scoring runs since they added Rasmus and Lawrie to the lineup. AA has a lot of work to do in the off-season. His shopping list should include a middle of the order bat, a number 1 or 2 starter, 2 guys at the back end of the bullpen, and a bench player with pop. Unless the playoffs are expanded, it make take close to a 100 wins to win the wildcard next season.

China fan - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 12:30 PM EDT (#242620) #

.....The Jays have had trouble scoring runs since they added Rasmus and Lawrie to the lineup....

Well, this might be somewhat exaggerated -- Rasmus is currently injured, so he can't be blamed for the results of the past few games -- but I share some of your concerns about the lack of hitting. In fact, I said something similar, a few days ago, but was shouted down by a couple of people who felt that the sample size of August games was too small. I'm wondering if the Tampa series has changed anyone's mind, or will they continue to argue that the sample size is too small and the Tampa pitching is too good and therefore we shouldn't be criticizing the offence?

And before anyone jumps in, just to clarify: I'm not saying that it's impossible for the Jays to improve their record with the current lineup. Yes, with some improved pitching, the current lineup is pretty good and could deliver an increased number of wins. I'm just saying that more is needed. Kelly Johnson is probably not enough. I think it's increasingly clear that Anthopoulos needs to do something fairly major -- spending some money and acquiring someone like a Prince Fielder, if not necessarily that specific move -- to give the Jays a better chance in 2012.

Mike Green - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 12:44 PM EDT (#242621) #
I don't think it has been quite that bad, Mike D.  Nonetheless, there have been a couple of head-scratching short-term moves by management, which might lead some players to believe that management is indifferent whether the club wins or loses the remaining games.  "Playing out the string" can be tough. 
hypobole - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 01:05 PM EDT (#242622) #

After our run of making almost every pitcher seem like Nolan Ryan, I checked FanGraphs, assuming we'd be among the leaders in K%. But we're actually one of the median teams at 18.6%. That seemed odd, so I checked the individual players and then it started making sense. AA has been the anti-Towers this year,. Just as Towers has been shedding  high K guys, AA has been bringing them in.  

As our roster stands, only 3 players have a rate below our 18.6% mark - Yunel 12.2%,  Edwin  15.0%, and Jose  16.8%.  The rest of our normal starters  (combined stats for players with muliple MLB teams))- Lind 19.0%, Rasmus 20.7%, Lawrie 22.0%, Thames 23.5%, Johnson 27.6%, and JPA 28.2%.  Rest of our batters (again combined stats) - Mr. Median Rajai 18.6%, McCoy 19.5%, Molina 22.4%, Teahen 24.3% and Wise 30.3%.

The only real pleasant surprise in the bunch is Edwin,  with 4 of our starters K'ing more than the worst team in MLB (Padres at 21.6%) as well as our entire bench when McCoy plays CF.

smcs - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#242623) #
It feels like the opposing starting pitchers pitch into the 7th inning on a pretty frequent basis against the Jays.

In the AL, the Jays have seen a starting pitcher for their 4th plate appearance or later in 54 games, 5th most, and 148 plate appearances, 3rd in the AL behind SEA and CWS. The good thing is that the Jays hit like Bautista in these situations (.310/.397/.627 -- best in the AL). The pattern seems to be pitch to Escobar (38 PAs in 37 games) and the #2 hitter and then pull the pitcher for Bautista (20 PAs in 20 games).

As for the 7th inning in particular, Jays starters have gotten 18 or fewer outs in 75 of 133 games, or about 56% of the time (meaning the Jays get 6.1 IP or more from their starter 44% of the time). The opponent have gone 18 or fewer outs in 68 of 133, or 51% of the time. MLB-wide, the Jays starters are about average, maybe a hair better -- 56.8% of league-wide starts are 18 outs or fewer. In AL-only games (excluding interleague), the starter doesn't get into the 7th inning in 52.1% of all starts.

So, a shade less than half the time (48.8%), the Jays opponent starter pitches into the 7th inning, where the AL-only average is 47.8%. Essentially, every game, it's likely that one of the two starters will go into the 7th inning. In Jays games, it is more likely to be the opponent than the Jays.


Ron - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 01:53 PM EDT (#242626) #
Interesting data. So the opposing starting pitchers are going deeper against the Jays when compared to the league average. It just reaffirms my belief that the Jays need to adjust their approach at the plate.
uglyone - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 02:09 PM EDT (#242633) #
Always easy to get down on a team when they're slumping....and this august has been especially brutal since this was supposed to be the soft part of the schedule.

August hitting:

Lawrie: 77ab, 1.066ops
(JMac: 20ab, 1.050ops)
Bautista: 77ab, .991ops
Encarnacion: 88ab, .921ops
Thames: 87ab, .705ops
Rasmus: 72ab, .698ops
(Molina: 23ab, .683ops)
(Davis: 18ab, .596ops)
Arencibia: 66ab, .581ops
(McCoy: 17ab, .540ops)
Escobar: 98ab, .537ops
Lind: 94ab, .485ops
(Johnson: 13ab, .466ops)
Hill: 56ab, .450ops
(Teahen: 17ab, .294ops)
(Snider: 13ab, .154ops)

Team: .697ops

Tough to produce when only 3 slots are posting an ops over .705. Even tougher when a full 4 slots in the lineup are under .600 with a couple under .500. Escobar and Lind's struggles have really drained the lineup.

The one thing that really bothers me is that Mark Teahen is still on this team. I understand they might want to wait for september callups to call up a guy like Cooper, but I still don't see any value in keeping Teahen. He's not going to be earning any trade value so he should be treated as a sunk cost and released. I'd much rather have Cooper up here taking swings when we decide to give up on games by pinchhitting for our cleanup hitter in the 8th inning with 2 guys on and one swing away from a 3-run ballgame against a division rival.

The other thing I'd like to see is Lawrie moved up the order pronto. Especially seeing how so many other teams like SEA and KC had no fear of putting their young guys in the meat of the order against us. I'd put Lawrie in the 3-hole and move Joey down to cleanup.

On the same note as Cooper over Teahen, I'm also annoyed that fodder like Ledezma, Miller, and Lewis have been pitching for us instead of younger guys with at least some real upside like Farquhar and Uviedo or even Mills in the 'pen.
uglyone - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 02:34 PM EDT (#242635) #
I actually don't think walks are that much of an issue for us. Especially with the moves we;ve already made this season

2011 BB%

Bautista: 20.0bb%
(McCoy: 15.0%)
Rasmus: 10.0%
Escobar: 9.9%
Johnson: 9.5%
(Molina: 8.3%)

4 of our starters and half of our projected bench guys actually have good to excellent walk rates this year.

Encarnacion: 7.5%
Arencibia: 7.4%

2 more of the starters have decent walk rates.

Lawrie: 6.1%
Lind: 5.7%
Thames: 5.5%
(Snider: 5.4%)
(Davis: 4.4%)

Three of the starters and the other half of the bench guys have bad to awful walk rates. 2 of those starters and 1 of those bench guys are either rookies or very young players who should be expected to improve, though.

Lind and Davis are the two guys on the roster for whom walk rates are a real concern. They're bad in this department and there's no reason to think they'll ever improve.

Otherwise, we've rid ourselves of most of the no-walk problems - Davis (4.4%) has been replaced in the starting lineup by Rasmus (10.0%), Hill (5.4%) has been replaced by Johnson (9.5%), and JMac (4.4%) has been replaced by McCoy (15.0%). Even thames (5.5%) has been a slight upgrade on patterson (4.4%), though Lawrie (6.1%) has been a slight downgrade from Nix (7.9%) / Rivera (8.0%).

Based on career marks we head into next season with these walk rates:

RF Bautista (31): 13.1%
2B Johnson (30): 10.7%
CF Rasmus (25): 9.6%
SS Escobar (29): 9.5%
DH Encarnacion (29): 8.7%
C Arencibia (26): 7.2% (MILB: )
1B Lind (28): 6.5%
3B Lawrie (22): 6.1% (MILB: 8.0%)
LF Thames (25): 5.5% (MILB: 9.2%)

UT Cooper (25): 12.2% (MILB: 10.6%)
OF Snider (24): 7.5% (MILB: 10.3%)
OF Davis (31): 5.6%
IF McCoy (31): 12.0%
C Molina (37): 5.0% (?)


Again, with all the youngsters posting good minor league walk rates, it seems to me like the only real walk-rate hole in the lineup going into next year is Lind.

Dumping Davis from the bench would also help. If Snider can backup CF in a pinch then dumping Davis is probably a no-brainer. A walk machine of a backup catcher might be a good idea too (Jeroloman?).
Mike Green - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 02:37 PM EDT (#242636) #
Yep, those were the head-scratchers I was speaking of. 
Dewey - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 02:48 PM EDT (#242640) #
A very enjoyable piece, Magpie.  And thanks for the links:  didn’t know about baseballlibrary.com

There was a wonderful sense of euphoria at Exhibition Stadium for Niekro’s 300th win.   Everybody--and I mean everybody--was happy.  It didn’t matter--that day--if we lost to the Yankees. So different from the day before. And I think it was Niekro’s old pal Jeff Burroughs, who came up to the plate as the Jays’ last batter, and obligingly flailed away at the ball for Niekro’s win.   Jays’ fans were smiling all the way.  Yes, it was cold, and damp; but nobody really cared. 
Ron - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 04:12 PM EDT (#242648) #
I actually don't think walks are that much of an issue for us. Especially with the moves we;ve already made this season

Rasmus was walking when he was with the Cards and than morphed into Davis once he joined the Jays. The young players coming through the system aren't walking that much at the major league level (Lawrie, Thames, Snider, etc...). I've never heard Dwayne Murphy come out and say the Jays should be selective at the plate (ironically Murphy was a walk machine when he was a player).
Ryan Day - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#242653) #
Rasmus was walking when he was with the Cards and than morphed into Davis once he joined the Jays.

It's a bit premature to blame Murphy for wrecking Rasmus, or even for making players less patient - Yunel Escobar is on pace to set a career high in walks.

Besides, we know what happens when Rasmus gets hitting advice he doesn't like...
TamRa - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#242654) #
maybe I'm the irrational one but i simply can't buy into the "look at all the holes we have to fill!!!" meme.

Yes 2B stands to be an issue, albeit i don't really mind carrying a mediocre bat one one position.

Yes, I'm begining to be concerned about Lind and I'd be perfectly happy to try to get Pujols or Votto or even Alonso into that spot.

I'm not worried about any other offensive position.

Nor am I worried about the pitching.

WORK. IN. PROGRESS.

AA constantly bangs the drum on one theme - "we won't rush the program" and yet every discussion seems to revolve around "OMG the holes!" as if we can leverage the process by taking a stab at importing veterans.

Which, you might remember, is exactly what JP did (and, by the way, for the most part made good choices on who to obtain)

Me? I'll be content to let the team grow organically, rather than import a truckload of fertilizer.


uglyone - Monday, August 29 2011 @ 05:39 PM EDT (#242660) #
Speaking of Morrow, here's my Fun Stat Of The Day:

2011 As Starter:

Litsch (26): 8gs, 5.8ip/gs, 4.66era
Morrow (26): 24gs, 6.0ip/gs, 4.79era

Career As Starter:

Litsch (26): 67gs, 5.8ip/gs, 4.15era
Morrow (26): 65gs, 5.7ip/gs, 4.59era
Mike Green - Tuesday, August 30 2011 @ 09:44 AM EDT (#242675) #
Listening to the game on the radio, it seemed to me the inflection point was Romero snagging the ground ball up the middle with Longoria on third and one out in the top of the third inning.  Wise had put in a great effort on Longoria's triple and almost came up with it, and when Romero made that play and then came out of the inning without any runs added to a 2-0 Tampa lead, the club seemed to have gotten a lift and emerged from its funk.

Romero does so many little things well.  Fields his position, gets rid of the ball quickly so that he is difficult to run on, and even treats the bat in his hand as a friend rather than a foreign object during interleague play.  These things affect the course of games, and also affect the numerical measures of pitcher effectiveness.  Art and science meet.



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