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In yesterday's thread about the greatest Jay of all time, greenfrog described Roy Halladay as the most "all-around enjoyable Blue Jay to watch."

Magpie suggested Tony Castillo (as well as Jesse Barfield, Tom Henke, and Paul Molitor). He also thought this might be a worthy thread.

I agree.


My personal nominees, in addition to the above, are Shaun Marcum and Orlando Hudson.
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rpriske - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 08:38 AM EST (#228594) #
Roy Halladay and Roberto Alomar.
Matthew E - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 08:59 AM EST (#228597) #
I have to say Mark Eichhorn. Anybody else remember watching his '86 season? It was unreal. He'd sling the pitch in there with this sweeping submarine motion, and it'd be two feet outside for a right-handed batter, and the batter would swing wildly. Ernie Whitt would have to practically dive for the ball to catch it. Then he'd throw another one, same place, and the batter would swing wildly, and Whitt would dive and catch it. Then he'd throw another one, and the batter would swing wildly, and Whitt would dive and catch it, and the batter would go sit down. And then the next guy would come up and they'd do the whole thing all over again. Man, it was fun.
Mike Green - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 09:19 AM EST (#228598) #
I'd nominate Devon White for gliding in all four directions with the greatest of ease.
CeeBee - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 09:19 AM EST (#228599) #
Fernandez making the jump and throw from deep in the hole, Alomar just being unbelievable, Barfield gunning down an unsuspecting runner at 3rd, White making an unbelievable catch at the wall, Halliday being himself, Hill diving and then throwing out the runner from on his knees and too many more to mention. I guess for me it would be Fernandez or Alomar for the sheer grace at which they played their position with White not too far behind. I think hitting and pitching should be separate and have their own threads though.
Matthew E - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 09:28 AM EST (#228600) #
Those are good too. I remember one catch White made where the ball was hit over the centerfield wall, and White ran back and jumped up so that he hit the top edge of the wall with his rib cage, and he used the point where the wall was digging into his side as a fulcrum. He tilted back over the wall, caught the ball, tilted forward again, and slid safely back down to the warning track.

Another guy who was fun to watch was Shannon Stewart. There was one game where the Jays and their opponents were going back and forth and it eventually went to extra innings. I don't remember too many details, but at some point Stewart determined that he was not going to permit the other team to win this game. He reached base, used his speed to work his way around to third, and scored on something that there was no reason to expect anybody to be able to score on it; ballgame. I don't think Stewart is remembered well among Jays fandom, but he was an exciting player.

johnny was - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 09:39 AM EST (#228601) #
I'm not saying I liked him or that there wasn't anything in his coffee during his short tenure with the Jays, but I think Brad Fullmer possibly deserves an artistic merit point for his murderous looking swing with the bat wrapped behind his head and almost pointing straight at the pitcher.
John Northey - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 09:43 AM EST (#228602) #
For insane swings, good ol' Cliff Johnson. If he missed he'd swing himself into the ground. Spinning around like mad. At least thats the way I remember it :)

As to Eichhorn - I loved his 1986. I remember a game vs the Red Sox where Jim Rice looked so foolish swinging at pitches that were a foot outside the strike zone. Eich wasn't scared!
Mike Green - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 09:44 AM EST (#228603) #
For artistic merit in the hitting department, it would be John Olerud's sweet swing especially in the first half of 1993. 
Original Ryan - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 10:02 AM EST (#228604) #
Two words:

Lee Gronkiewicz
Mick Doherty - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 10:23 AM EST (#228605) #
I don't remember it or anything, but I think the most important Jay artistic moment came in April 1977. Bill Singer. First pitch.
Matthew E - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 10:31 AM EST (#228606) #
But wasn't it a ball?
whiterasta80 - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 11:01 AM EST (#228607) #

David Wells on the mound, Todd Stottlemyre's sliding technique, Cecil Fielder running in full stride, Ricky Henderson leading off for the '93 Jays, Tony Bautista's batting stance.

Those were all quite "artful" in their own way.

DJR - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 11:04 AM EST (#228608) #
Tom Henke.  My memory is of his impassive poker-face as he paused to stare in at the catcher from behind those big glasses.  The sound on the TV would have been turned way up and nobody spoke in my house when he was on the mound.  Before every pitch there was this great moment of wondering, along with the batter, if this guy was actually going to throw yet another forkball.
92-93 - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 11:53 AM EST (#228610) #
I nominate Tony Batista's stance and Todd Stottelmyre's slide in the artistic category.
Dewey - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 11:59 AM EST (#228611) #
and Paul Molitor simply playing baseball.

Yeah, Molitor.  Easy.  I share the love for Olerud’s swing, and Jessie’s amazing arm, and White’s grace, and Robbie’s all-round greatness.  Even clumsy Cliff swinging himself down onto his butt.  I also liked watching Wardo come in, huffing and puffing and blowing doors down.   But I always went just to watch Molitor play.  You often saw something unexpected, yet perfectly right in the context.  A very, very intelligent ballplayer, especially on  the basepaths.   A joy to watch.
christaylor - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 11:59 AM EST (#228612) #
My top choices have already been posted -- but I mildly surprised that JMac at SS has yet to be mentioned.
JohnL - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 01:04 PM EST (#228614) #
Most of the ones I can think of are up there too, but for nominations in the  "most artistic in a single play category", I'd add Lloyd Moseby's "steal" of second, first and second on the same play, although no doubt Kenny Williams baserunning classic would be the favourite.
MatO - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 01:04 PM EST (#228615) #
But wasn't it a ball?   No.  It was a strike.  He did walk Garr though.
MatO - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 01:08 PM EST (#228616) #

Fernandez making the jump and throw from deep in the hole

Fernandez would never do something as unartisitic as a jump throw.  He would be glide into left field and do his underhand flip throw without planting.

Mike Green - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 01:18 PM EST (#228617) #
Yeah, although the throw was more sidearm than underhand.  We did see some spectacular defence out of the shortstops of the early-mid 80s, and they all could hit some.

 When one is listing the league depth at position, the AL shortstops of 1985 with Ripken, Yount, Trammell, Fernandez and Franco has to rank right up there. 
whiterasta80 - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 01:20 PM EST (#228618) #

Without being facetious I'd like to mention Jose Cruz Jr. in this context.  He had effortless speed, a cannon (not Barfield strong, but strong), and his swing was textbook at times. It was like watching Griffey Jr play, but without the results.

Still, in terms of raw talent I would argue that few Blue Jays could ever match what Cruz brought to the table. If you put Molitor's brain or Halladay's work ethic in his body he'd have been a first ballot HOF.

drjohnnyfever - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 01:27 PM EST (#228620) #
Barfield's throws to the plate from right field. I can still remember the joy when the opposing team, with a runner on 3rd, would hit a fly ball to right. I would beg that baserunner to tag-up just so I could watch Barfield unload to the plate. The camera would follow the flight of his thrown ball, and nothing was more beautiful than the ball entering the same frame as the baserunner and watching them both race to the catcher. Just awesome!

I had the honour of having dinner with Barfield in 2009, and he swore that anyone can throw like that... he claimed it was all in the arm angle, and then mocked Alex Rios for poor throwing technique. I know there's NO way I could throw like that no matter how much I copied Barfield's style... but I couldn't argue with him about Rios :)

Dave Till - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 01:30 PM EST (#228622) #
Great thread idea! Here's a few of mine:
  • Devon White's ability to instantly calculate not only where a fly ball was going to land but exactly how much effort he would need to expend to get there. He would always arrive just before the ball did. No muss, no fuss.
  • Jesse Barfield's arm. There was always that wonderful moment, on a fly ball or single to right, when Barfield had collected the ball and was about to throw: in that moment, everyone in the ballpark, except possibly the runner trying to advance an extra base, knew that Barfield was about to throw a strike and that the runner was toast.
  • Roy Halladay's pitching brain at work, especially with two strikes. Should he throw the pitch that bends in, the pitch that bends out, the pitch that bends down, or just blow a fastball by the batter? Decisions, decisions...
  • Tom Henke's sidearm pitch, which he would throw to right-handers on a two-strike count. The batter would inevitably stare at the pitch, slack-jawed, as it came in for strike three. In later years, he phased this out, as he would go to the forkball instead.
  • Jose Bautista at the plate - if you were watching on TV while doing something else, it was usually a good idea to stop doing that other thing and focus on Bautista's at bat. It was fun to watch opposing pitchers try to slip a fastball by him. Nope - that's not gonna work. Bat!
  • Ernie Whitt's home run swing. Every atom of his being was directed towards doing one thing: attempting to blast the ball over the right field fence. He would sometimes drop to one knee on the follow through. Artistically, it was ugly: but it was a celebration of the role of effort and determination in baseball.
  • Here's an unusual one: Junior Felix running out a ground ball (when he first came up). Felix is probably my least favourite Jay ever, for a variety of reasons, but he was the fastest player I ever saw in a Toronto uniform. A ground ball to third or short was inevitably a base hit.
  • George Bell, for a whole bunch of things - flicking his bat while waiting at the plate, knowing full well that he could hit anything the pitcher threw at him. Plus, the high drama of a base hit to left - is he going to overthrow the cutoff man, make a great throw, commit an error, or make a great fielding play? All of these things were possible at any given moment.
  • Fastballing closers: the three fastest I remember were Henke, B.J. Ryan and Billy Koch (though Ryan was more deceptively fast, thanks to his arm action). There's something about watching serious gas with two outs in the ninth and the crowd on their feet that is immensely entertaining.
  • Duane Ward was also fast, but it was that curve ball that he threw: it started in a different time zone from where it ended. I don't know if anybody ever successfully hit that thing once he mastered it.

electric carrot - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 01:39 PM EST (#228624) #
Fernandez in the field was fun to watch -- but my favorite was Fernandez at the plate.  The way he wound the bat around and then got into his crouch -- front leg extended -- bat way back -- the smoothness of the whole thing had a trance like quality -- he seemed to be moving in microseconds while the rest of us moved in larger fractions.  That and stick like quality of the man made me think of him like a giant praying mantis.

Favorite moment -- Fernandez calls for time -- doesn't get it -- steps back in as the ball is halfway to the plate -- smacks it to right for a triple.

I have no recollection of any of the other details, (who was pitching, against what team, just the hit itself remains.)

Bid - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 02:15 PM EST (#228625) #

Everything Dave Till said--especially about Ernie Whitt who I recall telling Jerry after one game when his formula worked perfectly for a bottom-nine win, that being on the spot like that was what he lived for.

Also the Reed Johnson 'tripod--adjusting gloves, right leg planted, left leg back out of the box, bat propped on cup  Speaking of cups: Dave Steib absent-mindedly bouncing the ball off his cup as the batter stood in. And finally George Bell (pretty much my favorite,) horizontal in the air with the effort of his throw. And George falling to his knees in shallow left in the '85 season clincher.

JohnL - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 02:32 PM EST (#228626) #
Re: Dave Till's comments:
- Devon White -  He would always arrive just before the ball did. No muss, no fuss. I don't know if I remember him ever having to dive for a ball
- Ernie Whitt - Every atom of his being was directed towards doing one thing: attempting to blast the ball over the right field fence. It sometimes seemed the aim was to hit one straight down the line, as close to (or off) the foul pole as possible
- Junior Felix. I remember a game not long after he first arrived where it was his speed on a ground ball to short was what rushed the Mariners' shortstop to turn an out into an error, and he was the only Jay to reach base against Mark Langston. (Until the Jays rallied in the 9th to win). And in AAA (or was it AA?),  I think he had two bunt doubles.
Matthew E - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 02:40 PM EST (#228628) #
Re: Dave Till's comments:
- Devon White - 
He would always arrive just before the ball did. No muss, no fuss. I don't know if I remember him ever having to dive for a ball

Yeah, he did, sometimes; not often. But then there was a two-week period in '92 or '93 or sometime where it seemed like he had been reading his own press clippings and started diving all over the place and trying to make all these impossible plays. Then he gave his head a shake and went back to playing his usual excellent game.
drjohnnyfever - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 02:48 PM EST (#228629) #
According to the science of baseball site, the way White played the outfield is the ideal technique. According to their studies, an outfielder should never run ahead of the ball and wait for it... but rather they should constantly move with the ball and arrive at the same destination at the same time.

They say that our brains can track the flight of the ball better when we're also moving. As soon as we stop or dive, according to them, we're forcing our brains to just guess the flight of the ball. So I guess science agrees that White rocked!
uglyone - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 04:21 PM EST (#228631) #
Fernandez gliding deep in the hole and firing a leaping slingshot over to first base.

Fernandez coiling snakelike at the plate, gently waving his bat, eyes darting all over the field.

Fernandez squaring up for the bunt, only to rear back and slam the ball over the charging third baseman's head.

Has to be Tony. He's the true Artiste in Blue Jays history.

mathesond - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 04:36 PM EST (#228632) #
When I was a youngster, my favourite players were Rick Bosetti, Damaso Garcia, and Willie Upshaw. I don't remember them as being particularly graceful, but they carried the hopes and dreams of at least one ~10 year old!

John Northey - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 04:47 PM EST (#228633) #
All the early Dominican players - Garcia, Griffin, Bell, Fernandez. Seeing a pitcher try to pitch out or 'waste' a pitch that no one can hit and then they get a base hit off it was just so much fun to watch. Not the best way to get on base, but a lot of fun to watch.

Can't forget Garth Iorg's crazy batting stance either. Used to try to use it myself, but given I never could hit it didn't do anything either way. The bat almost falling off his hands as he leaned waaaaay back. He still hit 300 one year with that, but of course was normally a very poor hitter.
Lylemcr - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 05:11 PM EST (#228635) #

For Artistic, I loved Jimmy Key on the mound.  Jimmy doesn't get enough love.

No swing sweeter than John Olerud's.  Imagine if he didn't have that head injury?  He could have been a pitcher too!

 

 

 

Mylegacy - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 05:18 PM EST (#228636) #
So many artistic moments, all wonderful.

For me - it's the look on Robbies face - the look in his eyes - when he'd run to his left - fly through the air, land with a slam and then stare at the ball in his glove - a mix of surprise and joy that just shone from his eyes. Art.
electric carrot - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 06:03 PM EST (#228637) #
In the "Strange Beauty" category let's not forget the indomitable Doyle "junk ball" Alexander.  The man possessed the worst posture of any baseball player I've ever seen.  The most ungainly delivery I've ever seen.  He looked 25 year older than he was.  Everything about the man described the word "crotchety" to a T.  Yet by some miracle the ball sailed in there near the plate every time.  And players swung -- and players missed.  It was sight to behold.
Mick Doherty - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 06:48 PM EST (#228638) #
I always suspected the old junkballing pitcher in Major League (I forget the character name -- the one who started the game before Sheen's characer came in to finish it.) was based on Alexander.
TamRa - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 07:33 PM EST (#228639) #
The Jays all time "fun too watch" team, IMO:

C - no particular leader here, maybe Santiago on reputation.
1B - Delgado - for the power
2B - Alomar, for the style and the "clutchiness"
SS - Fernandez, my favorite defender to watch before Robbie
3B - Rolen, maybe the best "looking" fielder ever at 3B
RF - Barfield - the arm
CF - White - Poetry
LF - Henderson - the legs
DH - Molitor - the swing

SP - Clemens - hate him if you want but he was a monster
SP - Doc - in one sense dull but near perfection has it's own beauty
SP - Key - maybe just my bias here
SP - Marcum - for the defense
SP - Morrow - just got a feeling

RP - Henke - of course
RP - Eichhorn, for reasons mentioned above
I can't think of a lot of other distinguishing visuals from relievers, I'd just be listing favorites to go further (Plesac, for one)


CeeBee - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 08:02 PM EST (#228640) #
Interesting team idea TamRa.
Mine would look like this.

C- Whitt - Mostly memories from long ago though I liked Fletch too.
1B- Olerud - Sweet swing.
2B- Alomar - Whats been said by many.
3B- Gruber - Hell bent for leather.
SS- Fernandez- I was going to mention the swinging bunt but somebody beat me to it.
LF- Bell- Crazy George :)
CF- Toughest choice so far.... White over Shaker by a hair.
RF- Barfield- What a gun.
DH- Fulmer- He looked the part for sure.

SP- Halliday- anyone need a doctor.... yes the opposition will
SP- Key- Like a surgeon. :)
SP- Stieb- Awesome stuff.
SP- Clemens... in spite of the ... well you know.
RP- Henke- The terminator
RP- Koch- My what could have been.... 100mph is nothing to sneeze at unless you are trying to hit it!
RP- Ward.... too bad his arm went away so soon after he became the closer.... what a shame!
Manager- Cito, because he was there when we finally won! :)
Magpie - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 09:21 PM EST (#228641) #
Gosh, look at all this!

Maybe I should explain Tony Castillo. Most pitchers are pretty intense out there, determined to assert their ownership of the place and the moment. Sometimes they're enormous men (think Halladay or Clemens) staring in grimly at the hitter, prepared to break him into little pieces if necessary. Sometimes they're regular sized people (think Stieb or Towers) who seem to have consumed several pots of Very Strong Coffee before taking the mound, where they twitch restlessly and grind their teeth...

And then there was Tony.

Castillo wandered around the mound exactly the same way I wander around the house right after waking up, trying to remember where I put my socks. The most relaxed pitcher in the history of the game. The man was not worried. He always seemed to be suppressing a yawn. I loved watching him, I just couldn't get enough if it.

Other things.... Dave mentioned George Bell, who was a veritable sideshow of entertaining and distinctive tics and mannersisms. You could see his act in the batter's box on the television: how, after invariably disdaining to swing at the first pitch, he assumed he was going to swing at every pitch that followed and the little hop he would do if he changed his mind and let it go by; the incessant demanding that the umpire check the baseball if it went anywhere close to the ground; the waggling the bat at knee level in lieu of a practise swing... You would have needed to be at the park to see what made his approach to playing the field interesting - I have never seen an outfielder move so much from one hitter to the next. Most outfielders move a little bit - they take a few steps in, or they take a few steps in one direction. Bell made enormous adjustments, moving 120 feet from side to side, dropping back to the wall or coming up close to the infielders. No one like him. His knees were always hurting, and he may not have had much confidence in his ability to cover the ground....

John Olerud took practise swings - he would step out of the box, and take two brisk practise swings and his swing was so damn pretty no one minded.

People have mentioned Tony Batista's bizarre batting stance. I always liked watching Batista get rid of the ball in the field. It was amazing. Quickest release I've ever seen. The ball seemed to be on its way to first base before he'd finished catching it, as if he'd just redirected the batted ball, rather than catching and throwing it....

And Henke, of course. The Terminator was an enormous fellow as well, but he was never a gleaming and polished cyborg like Roy Halladay. On the mound, Henke looked as if he'd been assembled by Dr Frankenstein, and there was something lumbering and mechanical as the various body parts swung into motion. Now the leg rises, now the arm comes back, now the big step forward...
Dewey - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 09:36 PM EST (#228642) #
What a great thread!  I've really enjoyed reading these recollections and descriptions.  Reminded me of how much I've enjoyed following the Jays over the years.  Thanks for putting it up Alex.
greenfrog - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 10:17 PM EST (#228643) #
I loved watching Molitor, especially in 1993. How did the Jays land him? I can't remember. Anyway, what a brilliant replacement for Dave Winfield, who left town for the seagull-free Metrodome after 1992.

+1 on Henke. The guy was completely lights-out from the moment he arrived on the scene. One heater after another. Mesmerizing, robotic (but slightly homely) windup. Fergie Oliver's first man-crush?

Devo's D. Gliding around CF, loping up to and over the wall if necessary. Lord, that was beautiful to watch.

Marcum for his savviness and grittiness and leadership. I see on Fangraphs that he throws his changeup 26% of the time. Interesting. Does a pitch that you throw 26% of the time still qualify as a "change"?

Alomar for sheer athleticism, hitting talent, speed, 10 Gold Gloves, oh my goodness. What an awesome player.

However, Doc is the only Jays player that had me setting aside time (often two hours was enough, given his efficiency) just to watch his individual brilliance, start after start. I loved the way he competed when he didn't have his best stuff, that he managed to rebuild his game after imploding early in his career, and that he carried around a copy of The Mental ABCs of Baseball, rereading it several times a year, obsessed with being the best player he could be. So Doc gets my vote.
JohnL - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 11:18 PM EST (#228644) #

For artistic merit, putting up the SkyDome in 2 1/2 minutes merits some attention:

 

JohnL - Monday, January 10 2011 @ 11:35 PM EST (#228645) #

I loved watching Molitor, especially in 1993. How did the Jays land him? I can't remember

What I remember was that Molitor, like many others, wanted to win, and decided the Brewers weren't serious about it, and weren't serious enough (financially) to keep him. I recall a report suggesting that the huge FA contract the Brewers had overpaid to Teddy Higuera (who pitched just over 120 innings for the team in the 4 years after the contract) rankled.

I also remember reading an article on Molitor in one of those pre-season magazines leading into the 1994 season. It was one of those pieces describing how good he was and under-appreciated until getting the chance to display his talents in the playoffs.

Specifically, it talked about Beeston & Glllick flying to Milwaukee to entice him, meeting over dinner. The writer claimed they were highly impressed by his throughness in trying to determine if the Jays would be the right fit. How serious they were about winning again, what kind of manager Cito was, etc.

One line stuck with me. Noting that Molitor played 3B for the first time in a few years in the WS, the writer said that Molitor told them he couldn't play third anymore. "He said he couldn't... not that he wouldn't".

lexomatic - Tuesday, January 11 2011 @ 03:42 AM EST (#228648) #
George Bell flying through the air to deliver a karate kick

Todd Stottlemyre leaning low, then flipping an opposing hitter over his back for daring to charge the mound.

Stieb, was  a great master of the Rosin toss, and the tantrum.

Geoff - Tuesday, January 11 2011 @ 10:32 AM EST (#228654) #
I know some found him irritating but I enjoyed watching Winfield hit.

And his magical powers to transform regular birds into blue jays was pretty awesome.

And now he can help you navigate the ever-changing waters that lie between you and a career as a major league baseball player.
Shrike - Tuesday, January 11 2011 @ 04:07 PM EST (#228664) #
I really enjoyed watching Dave Stieb and Jimmy Key pitch. The former wore his heart on his sleeve, and the latter was remarkably precise, with never a wasted motion on the mound.
Four Seamer - Tuesday, January 11 2011 @ 07:27 PM EST (#228665) #

If the subject is artistic merit, could memory possibly store a sequence of events more delightful than the image of Pat Borders stuffing a giant wad of chaw in his cheek, like a squirrel storing up for winter, followed by the inevitable mud-coloured expectoration?  Thine eyes have seen the glory.

Mike Green - Tuesday, January 11 2011 @ 09:37 PM EST (#228666) #
That would be the Jackson Pollock award, I guess.  Stieb would be a contender for the Andy Warhol award with the famous "Nut Scratch" work.  Devon White's long, lean frame and grace might evoke Modigliani. 
JohnL - Tuesday, January 11 2011 @ 09:53 PM EST (#228667) #
A whole thread on artistic merit, and no mention of "El Artista" himself, Miguel Batista?

I don't think he earned the title on the field unless it was his deliberate mulling over which of his 16 pitches to throw, but as I remember, he'd published a book of poetry and was working on a Spanish-language mystery novel.
shades04 - Tuesday, January 11 2011 @ 10:28 PM EST (#228669) #
Has no one said Juan Guzman? Really?
Alex Obal - Tuesday, January 11 2011 @ 10:40 PM EST (#228670) #
Nobody's said Micheal Nakamura. I love sidearmers. He made hitters look pretty stupid when they weren't hitting balls 500 feet off him. Unfortunately, he gave up a ton of homers in his 41-inning career sample, and nobody gave him another shot after 2004.
cybercavalier - Friday, January 14 2011 @ 03:19 PM EST (#228778) #
Nakamura went to Japan after 2004. He is 34. Given the availability of arms, maybe a minor league contract.
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