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Alex Anthopoulos sat down with the media today to discuss the season and his plans for the off-season.  He talks about the manager search without revealing anything and his positive view of the 2010 season.  He did have some interesting player comments.

Jordan Bastian has a story on the main site that covers the big stories without breaking much new ground.

Bastian also has a story about Bautista's contract status.  It doesn't sound like the Jays will sign him to a large contract extension though.

"We can certainly take a wait-and-see approach," Anthopoulos said. "There's a greater comfort level if the player's had a chance to do it again. At least you know what you're paying for. You don't mind paying a player if they're doing it day in and day out and they're productive players."

On his blog Bastian has AA comments on players.  They include:

Asked if Adam Lind could be an option for first base, Anthopoulos did not rule it out. He did say, however, that Lind did not play enough there in 2010 to come right out and say that he is a realistic answer for the position. Anthopoulos also believes Lind will bounce back with a 30-homer season in 2011.

Anthopoulos noted that second baseman Aaron Hill came to him and said he's open to a position change (third base) if it will help the team. The GM also noted that Toronto has until Opening Day 2011 to make a decision on picking up all three club option years (2012-14) on Hill's contract.

Fred Lewis was not too happy with his diminished role down the stretch late this season and Travis Snider is likely a full-time player come 2011. Anthopoulos noted that Lewis needs to improve defensively. If Lewis is not in the plans as a bench player, I'm not sure he brings much value off the bench. That could make him a non-tender possibility.

Anthopoulos said pitching prospect Kyle Drabek will be given every opportunity to earn the fifth starter's job next spring. Close behind Drabek on the depth chart is Zach Stewart, who was acquired in the Scott Rolen trade with the Reds in 2009. As for the front four, Anthopoulos does not see a clear-cut No. 1 starter.

Asked what areas needed improvement, Anthopoulos pointed to the poor bullpen ERA and the club's subpar on-base percentage. He believes both areas need to be improved. On offense, Anthopoulos would like for the output to be more balanced, rather than living and dying by the home run.

Anthopoulos said catching prospect J.P. Arencibia has nothing left to prove in the Minors. He has earned a shot in the big leagues. Will it be as a starter or backup? The GM would not say. The Jays will explore bringing back John Buck, but Anthopoulos said he has earned a long-term contract and a No. 1 job, whether it's in Toronto or somewhere else.

Click on the link for more.

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Shi Davidi's stories are notposted yet but he had a different angle on the press conference.  AA talked trades:

"I think the trade route, although there's a lot more risk to it ... I think that's probably the best avenue for us to pursue.  I'm not opposed at all to taking prospects and trading them for big-league players. ...They're not all going to play up here."

Davidi's conclusion: My main takeaways? Blue Jays will be very active in trade market with their prospects...

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I expect similar stories from all the usual scribes will be hitting the WWW shortly.

 

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Forkball - Monday, October 04 2010 @ 09:30 PM EDT (#223594) #
I sense, from the long term contract comment, that Buck will end up with another team.  His JPA comments don't hurt that either.

AA has shown he's not afraid to make a trade, or make a trade that includes prospects.  I think it's safe to say that any significant improvements will come from there than free agency.  It's nice to see a GM who's not afraid to pull the trigger.
actionjackson - Monday, October 04 2010 @ 10:21 PM EDT (#223599) #
It's nice to see a GM who's not afraid to pull the trigger.

Amen Forkball. Amen.
Chuck - Monday, October 04 2010 @ 10:53 PM EDT (#223601) #
Lind's problem wasn't that he didn't 30 homeruns. It was that he hit .237.
TamRa - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 01:04 AM EDT (#223604) #
I think the "trade over free agency" theme will make the off-season a lot of fun.

While looking over the possibilities tonight, and taking note of Aaron Hill's offer, one possibility jumped out at me.

We know that rumors arethat the D'Backs will consider flipping Kelly Johnson, and the story was we were in on him last winter.

Now whether it's for LF or 2B, Johnson following Esco at the top of the lineup looks pretty nice.

Esco - SS
Johnson - 2B / LF
Bautista - RF / 3B
Wells - CF
Lind - 1B
Hill - 3B / 2B
Snider - LF / RF
Encarnacion - DH
Arencibia - C

just that one move alone helps a lot, especially if Esco and EE regain some of their formenr OB skills and Hill and Lind rebound. And that's before I predict a Snider break-out year.



China fan - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 05:56 AM EDT (#223607) #

....I sense, from the long term contract comment, that Buck will end up with another team.  His JPA comments don't hurt that either....

In fact, AA's comments yesterday were pretty clear:  the Jays would "love" to keep John Buck in 2011, unless the price is too high, and everything will be decided in the upcoming negotiations.  Of course Anthopolous is being cautious about this -- he doesn't want to drive up Buck's contract price by indicating that the Jays will do everything to sign him.  He wants to keep all of his options open, and he wants the option of walking away from John Buck if the price climbs too high.  Same thing with the Overbay situation -- Anthopolous is being publicly cautious in his comments about Overbay so that he doesn't drive up the price.  But if he can do something creative on the contracts, if he can get a reasonable price for them -- maybe a 2-year deal plus options for Buck and a 1-year deal for Overbay -- he might keep both of those guys, due to a lack of a better alternative for 2011 at least.   (Anthopolous clearly stated that Adam Lind is not ready to be a full-time 1B in 2011.)  Knowing this, my guess is that Anthopolous asked Gaston to give lots of playing time to Buck and Overbay in August/September, for several good reasons:  to assess whether they should be signed for 2011, to evaluate more accurately the current level of their skills, and to keep them happy so that they would look favorably on agreeing to a reasonably-priced deal with the Jays.  Of course Buck and Overbay won't pass up a big offer from another team, if it's significantly above the Jays offer, but it definitely helps in the contract negotiations if the players were happy with the Jays and would like to return.  It can make it easier for AA to negotiate a creative deal with those guys.

Attached below, courtesy of Ken Fidlin, is a longer version of AA's comments on Buck and JPA yesterday.  I read it this way:  JPA is ready for the majors and will get playing time in 2011, but not necessarily as the main starting catcher, while the Jays will try to find a way to keep Buck if the price is right.  Here is the excerpt from Fidlin's story:

Are the Jays suddenly interested in bring Buck back?

“You have to be,” GM Alex Anthopoulos said. “He became a leader on this team. Twenty home runs, career highs in batting average. We would love to have John Buck back here.

“At the same time, he’s had a great year and earned a long-term contract. That said, What are the alternatives for the club? What’s the opportunity cost? That’s all to be debated.”

The Jays’ conundrum is that they also want to give Arencibia a chance to develop.

“At some point we have to give him a chance,” said Anthopoulos.

“It’s hard to look at J.P. and say, ‘Well, you hit 32 home runs in the minor leagues but we didn’t think it was good enough.’

“At some point, he needs to get into the big leagues and get some experience. He has done everything we asked in the minors this year.”

China fan - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 06:10 AM EDT (#223608) #

Also, here is Mike Wilner's summary of AA's comments on the JPA situation, since I haven't seen these comments quoted anywhere else.  It's interesting that AA is again defending JPA's lack of playing time in September (as he did earlier in the Blair interview), but judge for yourself:

-J.P. Arencibia isn’t being handed anything, nor will he be shut out of anything.  Anthopoulos said he definitely still sees him as a catcher, that he did everything they could have hoped for at Las Vegas this year and that “at some point, we have to give him a chance”.  He argued that sitting and watching rather than playing everyday doesn’t stunt the development of a young catcher, since there’s so much to learn.

85bluejay - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 11:20 AM EDT (#223624) #

What a 1st. yr. for AA - just Tremendous, even for me , an enthusiastic early supporter - more quality young talent

has come into the org. in the last yr. than in  any previous yr. in the team's history - in my opinion.

his value FA signings - buck/Gonzalez/Gregg/Molina and decision to bring back Bautista - all of which were

greeted with not much enthusiasm by fans (myself, no exception) proved good to great value and his trades

have very exciting upsides - not too many below avg. suspects like Doofus & co. - we are after all playing in the

AL east - add in a very good draft and the final yr. of cito (I think, forced on him) not a disaster many expected.

All of which adds up to my being very excited to see what AA will do, having had a full season on the job and

time for him and his staff to evaluate the team and players around the league. In fact, I expect so much,

that I'm likely to be disappointed and I add one word of caution - SEE Seattle, after the great 2009 and sky

high expectations for 2010 - So, AA stick with the plan.

Also, regarding Arencibia - From his comments and track record, I won't be surprised if AA moves Arencibia

and resigns Buck if the right deal comes along - partly because I believe that A'rnuad is still his guy at catcher

longterm.

bpoz - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 11:33 AM EDT (#223627) #
This is going to be a huge thread.

Include my WELL DONE for AA in 2010.
BUT.
He made a list of his 2010 missed opportunities. We will never see that list. He is a very hungry man.
Jonny German - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 01:00 PM EDT (#223634) #
I got on the JP Ricciardi bandwagon early, and when it became apparent that he was more colourful but no more talented than Gord Ash I fell off, hard. I paid the Jays very little mind in 2009 - enough to appreciate the great seasons from Scutaro, Hill, Lind, and Halladay, little enough to completely miss the significance of the seasons from Brett Cecil, Marc Rzepczynski, and Travis Snider. I thought the inevitable firing of Ricciardi would be a happy day for me, but my impression that the franchise was in worse shape than when he first laid his hands on it and the promotion of one of his underlings left me still blasé on the Jays.
 
Anthopolous' first move, re-signing Johnny No-Hit, served to deepen my impression that we were simply entering The Second Ricciardi Era (you'd think I'd be smarter than that, having been burned in assuming JP would be Billy Beane II). The Halladay trade didn't move me one way or the other, lacking the knowledge to say for myself if Anthopolous got a good return or not. The Morrow trade registered as "that sounds like a good idea", but it wasn't siginificant enough in my mind to make a big impression. The Gregg signing fired me up a bit, in that I thought it was a horrible idea.
 
The first move that started to shift my opinion in favour of the new guy was the acquisition of Fred Lewis. There's a threefold irony in this:
 
1) I mostly loved the move because I thought he would be a perfect platoon mate for can't-hit-righties Jose Bautista
1) An early JP move I anticipated and loved was the acquisition of defensively limited outfielder Frank Catalanotto
3) It now appears that Fred served a useful purpose but clearly doesn't have a future in Toronto.
 
Then it started to look like AA has a magic touch in the free agent bargain bin, as John Buck, Alex Gonzalez, and Kevin Gregg all performed much better than expected. Ricky Romero making his rookie season believable helped, along with Shaun Marcum's good-as-new comeback and Brett Cecil looking like the real deal. Oh, and that Bautista guy helped things too. Suddenly I felt like there was reason to be just a little optimistic about this team and this GM. The classic buy-low sell-high trade bringing in Yunel Escobar pushed me over the edge, fully into the AA camp (and back to reading Batter's Box every day after 3 years of very sporadic visits to this fine site). By the time he flipped Wallace for Gose I was ready to not bother trying to analyze for myself and simply trust our man Anthopolous.
 
Here's to an exciting offseason and many years of success for AA and the Blue Jays.
John Northey - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#223636) #
AA does go for guys who have fallen out of favour with their organizations and keeps an eye for bargains.

Given JPA a year ago was a failure I guess it is a possibility he is traded if AA feels he can get good value. Picture it as Buck/Molina getting minor league prospects ready plus whatever he gets for JPA vs JPA/Molina getting minor league prospects ready plus a draft pick (sandwich round). The question becomes which has more value.
JPA & sandwich pick
Buck & whatever you get for JPA

I'd have to think JPA is worth more than a sandwich pick, but what about how JPA will produce in the majors vs how Buck will, especially over the next 3-6 years? If JPA is projected by Jay scouts as being no more than Buck, possibly less and the other catchers in the system are viewed as being better quality as well then maybe AA will do the opposite of what we all expected to happen all season long.

As to guys to acquire I'd look at early 1st round picks who have not done as well as expected, thus might be affordable. I'll check top 10 picks each year and try to find a guy who we haven't talked about here.
2003: 3B Ian Stewart - a just under 100 OPS+ guy in the majors, from 2004-2008 was top 60 BA prospect every season (#4 in pre-2005)

2004: SS/3B/2B Chris Nelson - in truth, doubt he is available but 7 years in the minors, getting his first 27 ML PA this season suggests he isn't popular in Colorado's front office. Good power, showed he is alert by stealing home when a pitcher fell asleep on the mound, suffered through injuries in '08/'09.

2005: 3B/OF Alex Gordon - OK, we have talked about this guy here a bit but geez is he an obvious one, from being talked about as the next great 3B in KC to an 84 OPS+ and the minors this year. If he can play 3B he could have a lot of value here - maybe even mix and match with Bautista as to who is at 3B and who is in RF. A 2nd overall pick.

2006: 3B Billy Rowell - Baltimore has him in A+ for the 3rd straight year, might be off their 40 man this winter thus a rule 5 pick (I think he needs protecting this winter). Showed a little power this year, top 50 prospect in pre-2007 but vanished since. Probably taken only if left off AAA roster or something.

2007: 3B Josh Vitters - flopped in AA this year but is only 20, if Cubs are looking for something the Jays have he could be part of a trade mix - dropping on top 100 list each year (43-51-70-??) but has power and is young. Depends on if their GM is panicking or not.

2008/2009/2010 - doubt any teams have given up yet on these guys.

Colorado and KC seem the best matches to me here. Should make for an interesting winter.
Dewey - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 01:46 PM EDT (#223639) #
AA gets an A from me for his first year on the job.  I like the moves he’s made; and his policy of working outside the media, even though he understands that he must also work with them.  An excellent beginning.
Mike Green - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 02:34 PM EDT (#223647) #
Anthopoulos' first season was unquestionably a good one, despite my several concerns expressed during the year.  On any accounting, the organization went into the season with 3 major deficiences, at third base, at shortstop and in centerfield.  With the acquisitions of Escobar, Hechevarria and Thon, one would have to rate the shortstop depth as significantly improved.  Gose is a significant upgrade on the talent level at centerfield.  Even at third base, Kevin Ahrens' improvement in the second half means that there is some hope even there (and the decision to end Ahrens' switch-hitting days probably contributed to the improvement). 

His style, cheerier than Pat Gillick but with much of Gillick's detachment, was a welcome change.

Matthew E - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 03:09 PM EDT (#223651) #
One of the reasons why I'm long-term pessimistic about the Jays is that I don't like the way they've recently made their personnel decisions. When, in a relatively short time, they had to come up with a new president, GM, manager, and pitching coach, they ended up picking the guy who was already inside the organization and whose office was closest to the one the Jays had to fill. For all four jobs. It's no way to run things.

Which is not to say anything about the actual qualifications of Beeston, Anthopoulos, Gaston, and Walton. All four guys obviously have something on the ball. But if they're so great, how come this team has been spinning its wheels for so long?

I think the Jays need a genius for a GM to do anything real in the AL East. I don't think their hiring practices were conducive to finding a genius.

All of which is taking the long way around to saying that, after one year, Anthopoulos hasn't proved that he can't do the job. He's done some obviously good things, and if he's made any mistakes worth mentioning, I missed them. I don't know if he's going to be good enough to put the Jays over the top... but if he's not, that says more about the team, the city, and the division than it does about him. I think he's pretty good.
China fan - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 03:16 PM EDT (#223653) #

......With the acquisitions of Escobar....

Escobar is an interesting case.  His defensive skills are more than adequate, but his hitting for the Jays was significantly below his career average -- and far below his peak years for the Braves when his OPS was .837 (at age 24) and .812 (at age 26).  So there's still room for improvement, especially if his hitting rebounds to anything close to the levels of last season.

Escobar's OPS for the Jays this season was just .696.  That's perhaps adequate for a shortstop (it ranked 7th among AL shortstops with 260 PAs or more, not far behind Jeter's .710).  It's certainly better than what Escobar produced for the Braves in the first half of this year, when his OPS was just .618.   But if he can rebound to anything near his excellence of last year, or even 2008 or 2007, it could be a tremendous benefit to the Jays. 

By the way, Alex Gonzalez had an OPS of .793 for the Jays this season, and an OPS of just .676 for the Braves.  No matter whom they tried, the Braves suffered bad luck with their shortstops this year....

Gerry - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 04:38 PM EDT (#223665) #

With the Jays Escobar started well with a 712 OPS in July but he slipped back to 670 and 665 in August and September.  His power numbers are down significantly from a couple of years ago.  I think he needs a swing make-over that obviously Cito or Murph were unable to deliver. 

Fangraphs has him at -8.4 runs for his hitting in 2010, in other words below replacement level.  If you take away the hype Escobar wasn't much different from John McDonald.  Good field, weak bat.

I know Escobar has a higher level of performance in his past, and is a lot younger, but the Jays have to figure out how to up his offensive output to Escobar's 2008 levels.

Mike Green - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 05:00 PM EDT (#223670) #
Escobar hit .275/.340/.356 for the Jays.  Given the decline in offence generally in 2010 and the move to the AL East, those numbers fit in reasonably well with the rest of his career.  You would hope that he would return in 2010 to his career line of .289/.364/.397 or close to it.  That is a fine player, and one who would fit in to the offensive needs of the Jays of 2011.  OPS and OPS+ understate his offensive value, particularly on a club like this. 
TamRa - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 05:40 PM EDT (#223674) #
regarding resigning FA hitters, I think AA (quite correctly) realizes that he HAS to say good things about wanting everyone here because it helps options stay open.

for instance, if he were to ask the Mets about David Wright and the mets said "We kinda like that young catcher" then if AA had blown off the idea of keeping Buck he might find himself with a sub-par catcher in 2011.

I have NO DOUBT that AA is open to the idea of dealing Arencibia if he gets an offer he likes, because a three year deal for Buck will easily bridge to the younger prospects. But until he shops that market he can't know for sure. so he keeps both options open.

On the other hand, IF he doesn't get an offer he likes that forces him to move JPA then i have NO DOUBT buck won't be back - I'd be stunned if both pitchers are with the team in March

Given the weakness of the catching position across the league, it's a reasonably good possibility we could get good value for JPA - but would whether that value is at a position of need or whatever....hard to project.


Same, in a sense, with Overbay. no reason at all to say anything but "We love Lyle" until he sees what he can do about 1B over the winter.


Actually, if I think there's one guy who's most likely gone it's Lewis because Alex didn't go out of his way to say good things about him.


DaveB - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 08:53 PM EDT (#223689) #
AA said all the right things to keep his options without openly criticizing Gaston, but his comment about Lind not playing enough first base certainly suggests that he would like to have gone into the off-season with more knowledge about that particular scenario.

Regarding Buck and JPA, again he said all the right things in order to A) not tip his hand regarding Buck and acknowledge the obvious about his good offensive season; and B) at least publicly try to reinforce Arencibia's status as a legitimate prospect despite being criticized and not played by Gaston. I don't see any way that both are back. Buck has earned a long-term contract somewhere, and paid as per a No. 1 catcher. JPA deserves the opportunity to become the No. 1 catcher  To do that he needs to play. The two situations are not compatible, in my opinion. I suspect Buck is the odd man out but if not, then JPA will be part of a trade for prospects (or a young Major Leaguer) at other positions. Perhaps Arencibia (a Florida native) to the Marlins as part of a package for one of their young first basemen, or to the Brewers for my favorite non-Jay minor leaguer, Brett Lawrie. The possibilities are endless but the least likely is that both Buck and Arencibia will be with the Jays at spring training.


Gerry - Tuesday, October 05 2010 @ 09:22 PM EDT (#223692) #

Shi Davidi is out with his summary of the AA press conference.  This was the key excerpt for me:

"I'm not sitting up there in our office with our baseball operations team saying, 'OK we won 85 games, if we make these six moves that will equate to 10 wins,'" Anthopoulos said Monday during a lengthy chat with the team's beat writers. "It's not that easy. I've heard stories and talked to teams where they've done simulations and there are just too many variables, you're dealing with human beings.

"If the focus is on making the team better and continuing to look for value whenever you can get it to build that team, at some point the wins will continue to pile up and we'll get to the point in-season, that hopefully we're going to look to add a piece. Then when you get to that playoff area, that's when you make a big splash."

bpoz - Wednesday, October 06 2010 @ 10:16 AM EDT (#223710) #
Comparing Buck & R Barajas(2009), both played for Cito. Both increased their RBI & K numbers, both had best career HR numbers and both BB numbers went down. Cito effect?
Buck IMO was really sliding before 2010.
Is JPA's upside their equivalent? Would Cito improve him?
JPA is very cheap pre-arb. We will see what the other 2 earn in 2011.
If somehow Buck & Barajas are pretty much equal playing in Toronto anyhow then AA can pick either if he wants a veteran.
Chuck - Wednesday, October 06 2010 @ 11:47 AM EDT (#223725) #
I'm not sure why you are lumping Barajas and Buck together. Barajas's OPS+s in Toronto were 86 and 71. Buck's was 115. They were most certainly not "equal playing in Toronto".

It should also be noted that Buck's numbers in 2010 were awfully similar to what he had done in 2009, albeit in half the ABs. So he really just picked up from where he had left off. It's not clear that the Jays reinvented him as a hitter.

As for what Buck and Barajas will earn in 2011, these are two separate animals. Buck, now 30, will be looking at a multi-year deal. It's not clear he will get 3 years, but I imagine that's what his agent will push for. Barajas, now 35, may get a one-year offer on the heals of his strong finish in LA, like Molina got last year. Or he may get nothing more than an invitation to spring training.
John Northey - Wednesday, October 06 2010 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#223729) #
An interesting quote from AA, saying that he isn't looking at it as needing 10 more wins but instead trying to improve long term.

In truth, that does make a lot of sense, but it all has to be filtered through the need for 95+ wins in this division. IE: don't use prospects to shift from sub-par to average at a position, instead use a bit more to get to above-average or well above. Take risks on the Escobar type players (high potential, could collapse) rather than playing it safe by keeping Alex Gonzalez #2 even if it costs a few prospects.
Jdog - Thursday, October 07 2010 @ 12:56 AM EDT (#223789) #
MLB trade rumors has rumors posted about Jays looking into Rasmus despite St. Louis claiming he isn't going to be shopped. Who in here doubts that AA was one of the first on the phone to the GM. And I could see AA giving up a butt-load of young B type talent in order to land Rasmus who has star potential....Its going to be a fun offseason i believe
bpoz - Thursday, October 07 2010 @ 09:52 AM EDT (#223807) #
Chuck,
The OPS number does show that Buck is the better player. I don't quite understand OPS. I will figure it out in the next year or so.
Regarding defense how do they compare. I imagine their speed is reasonably equivalent. Buck also has a huge advantage in age, which I did not even think about.

If anyone was to guess, how would JPA compare as a catcher to those 2. Offensively LV favored JPA but JPA's great ML debut was against TB (J Shields), AL East champs and he made a strong initial statement. I just looked at the PCL, 16 teams in total, so half of the 30 ML teams and he was clearly the best overall hitter. Since he also won that PCL award, then he should rank as one of the most advanced AAA prospects in all of baseball sort of, because he is still young enough for age not to count against him.
Jonny German - Thursday, October 07 2010 @ 10:51 AM EDT (#223810) #

bpoz, a great starting point to understanding new-fangled baseball stats is Michael Lewis' Moneyball. It's an entertaining read regardless of what you take away from it, it won't bore or overload you with statistical minutiae.

John Northey - Thursday, October 07 2010 @ 11:33 AM EDT (#223814) #
OPS is fairly straightforward - On Base Percentage (OBP) plus Slugging Percentage (Slg). Not a perfect stat, but a good one.

OBP = times a batter reaches base (not counting reached via error or a force play) divided by plate appearances (not counting sac bunts for some reason). 300 is marginal, 330 decent, 350 solid, 400 is great with only a few reaching 500 - since WWII only Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle & Barry Bonds (4 times) have done it.

Slg = total bases (HR x 4, 3B x 3, 2B x 2, singles x 1) divided by at bats. Always as high as your batting average, sluggers can climb as high as 600 with odd cases cracking 700 (McGwire, Sosa, Bagwell and Frank Thomas for example) and Bonds & Ruth the only players ever to crack 800 (twice each).

OPS = Above two added together - 700 is OK for a great defensive shortstop, 750 is what you expect from most, 800 is decent for an outfielder, 900 is an all-star season, 1000 is an MVP type season. Only Bonds cracked 1.400, Ruth & Bonds over 1.300, while 20 times a 1.200 has occurred (McGwire, Thomas, Bagwell, Williams plus a batch in the 20's and early 30's). 1.100 has happened 92 times (Pujols lives here). 1.000 has happened 393 times (about 3-4 guys a year). For a range using Blue Jays - Delgado's career mark is 929, Vernon Wells 804, John McDonald 604.

OPS+ = adjusting the above for league and park. IE: every year a 100 is league average when factoring in where you play. Thus a 100 on the Jays was around 740 this year, but was around 800 in 2000 and for Colorado (hitters heaven) in 2000 was 865. This makes it much easier to compare year-to-year and park-to-park as it adjusts for the steroid era or the high mound era of the 60's.

Hope that helps!
bpoz - Thursday, October 07 2010 @ 12:04 PM EDT (#223820) #
Thanks for the info on OPS. So now comparing Rod B 86 & 71 to Buck's 115 that is a differential of 29 and 44 in favor of Buck. So I really sold him short. Also I forgot that he made the All Star team.
So JPA is closer to RB and nowhere near Buck.

Depending on AA's moves or lack of moves I have a few Blue Jay fantasies.
We all know his moves but NO July 31st moves surprised me a lot. There should have been some desperate teams that were close, I will have to go back and see who sat on their hands and so lost out. With no digging NYY, TEX & Phil made big moves and got rewarded.
My Jays fantasy:- For those of you that can remember the early 90s, the Mets IMO had a wicked bullpen, 3 young guys came up together, Rob Dibble threw 100mph and 2 others whose names I cannot remember now. I want that type of pen. Please AA.
Mick Doherty - Thursday, October 07 2010 @ 02:24 PM EDT (#223844) #

bpoz, you mean the Reds ...

Dibble and Charlton set up Randy Myers, who CIN acquired for John Franco. Deal worked out well for both sides, betterr big pic for tje Reds. who won a ring in 1990.

Mick Doherty - Thursday, October 07 2010 @ 02:48 PM EDT (#223847) #

Now I can''t gget Marty Brennaman out of my head ...

Myers bringin' it ... and the ball is hit in the air, foul, off first ... Benzinger backing and calling ... and the 1990 World's Championship belongs to the Cincinnati Reds!!!

 

Matthew E - Thursday, October 07 2010 @ 03:32 PM EDT (#223853) #
The nickname of that bullpen - I know you know this; I just figure someone should say it - was the Nasty Boys.
bpoz - Saturday, October 09 2010 @ 09:31 AM EDT (#223979) #
Nasty Boys from the Reds. That is a deep & powerful pen.

I hope my spelling is correct, a pen with charisma and good. I would need to check how good they were. Not letting inherited runners score and also demoralizing the other team in the late innings.
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