Congratulations, Jose. It’s been one heck of a season.
Congratulations, Jose. It’s been one heck of a season.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AsDwEPrPogKZKlLCDOLs0ooRvLYF?slug=jp-fangraphs091710
6. A shortstop with a horrendous mustache, a guy labeled a clubhouse cancer, a left fielder and Zimmerman own the four best gloves in baseball.
The trash ‘stache: St. Louis’ Brendan Ryan(notes), who is plus-25 DRS. The cancer: Toronto’s Yunel Escobar(notes), whom Atlanta traded midseason, at plus-24. Crawford has the best UZR in baseball at 22. And Zimmerman is tremendous in DRS (plus-23) and UZR (15.9).
He has what Joe Carter never developed - an ability to lay off balls off the plate and take his walks when they are available.
Among the many positive developments in Blue Jay land this season - he ranks first.
True, but one could argue that there was no reason to expect Bautista to earn or receive regular playing time over the course of a full season. Remember, many of us were advocating a platoon partner for Jose, should he be given the starting job in the outfield.
Do we know yet if Zep is going Tue or being skipped?
If so one assumes he bumps down to Cecil's turn?
I'm trying to project whether Drabek pitches against the Twins for a piece i have to write and they are driving me nuts with this uncertainty.
The page is updated to last night however...
1985: Fielder reaches majors, hits for a 135 OPS+
1986: Fielder hits poorly out of the gate (602 OPS over 49 PA) and is sent down. Comes back and hits worse (482 over 24) then late September hits even worse (471 over 17) - I think this is when Williams decided Fielder was not much
1987: In platoon while hitting for a 133 OPS+, pace for 43 HR over 600 PA, with McGriff (130 OPS+) while Upshaw (87 OPS+) plays everyday and Jays miss playoffs by 2 games
1988: Having only slightly learned, McGriff now plays everyday (157 OPS+) while Fielder drops to a 100 OPS+ pace for 28 HR over 600 PA.
So from 1985-1988 Fielder hit for a 108 OPS+ with 31 HR over 558 plate appearances. Yes, one season of PA over a 4 year stretch while he was 21-24.
In 1989 the guy kept to DH, Rance Mulliniks, turned 33 and hit for an 88 OPS+, think the Jays could've used Fielder that year? In 1990 Olerud & McGriff covered 1B/DH so things would've been very crowded, especially with Bell in LF but Olerud could've spent that year in AAA instead. Then in 1991 we had Mulliniks with a sub-100 OPS+ at DH again before the Winfield & Molitor years came into being.
Fielder was clearly a power machine that just needed a chance but under Jimy Williams he was a platoon only guy getting under 200 PA a year. I am still amazed that Gillick didn't get anything for Fielder from another GM instead of sending a 25 year old power machine to Japan. Poor move by Gillick and poor move by all other GM's. Btw, if there was a BattersBox.ca back then I'd have been posting many wtf type articles about this as it drove me up the wall at the time.
David Wells was released by the Jays in ST 93 I believe. I really liked him. I wonder if Toronto cost him a HOF shot by using him so much in long relief instead as a starter.
Don't get me started...
Anthopoulos’s eye tells him the mechanical reasons behind Bautista’s surge makes sense. But he wonders about those home and road splits, which through Thursday had Bautista hitting 30 of his homers at the Rogers Centre compared to 17 on the road, and has a home batting average of .293, or 56 points about his road average.
“Maybe those numbers on the road are really him,” Anthopoulos
Reading the story one senses that the team is cautious in regards to signing him long term. How he handles the slugger will really be one of AA more defining moments in the year to come.
However, it's probably easier to re-sign a guy who does better at home than it is to trade him.
No. They didn't. But it's a good excuse for me to wander through his career here....
Wells was never that good, Hall of Fame good. The 239 wins is impressive, but no starting pitcher has made the Hall with a 4.13 ERA.
Wells won 54 games after turning 40, which is somewhat unusual. And it's odd for a pitcher to win more games in his 40s than he did in his 20s. He did get off to a late start. His early development was mainly delayed by injury (TJ surgery on his way up). After failing a mid-season audition as a starter, he made the team by pitching brilliantly as a reliever (4-1, 1.50) in September 1987. Unfortunately Jimy Williams worked him like a mangy dog in the first half of 1988 (37 appearances before the break) and he broke down again. He got re-established as a quality reliever when Gaston took over in 1989. And that was just a wonderful arrangement with Wells and Ward setting up Henke. Best bullpen ever, and no one really wanted to mess with it, Wells included. But Gaston pretty well had to move him into the rotation in mid 1990 when Jimmy Key got hurt. Mike Flanagan had suddenly gotten old and John Cerutti had lost his mojo - the team was just a little desperate.
Anyway Wells was already 27 years old before he won his first game as a starter. He didn't open a season in anybody's rotation until his age 28 season. Even then, they simply had to move him to the pen in September. He'd completely run out of gas by the end of July, and sending him out to start was just giving games away at that point.
In 1992, he did get messed around. He was the designated sixth starter. He opened the year in the rotation, but he was just keeping the seat warm for Davbe Stieb and he went to the pen when Stieb made his triumphant return to the lineup (the guys in the pen were - I'm not kidding - wearing Dave Stieb wigs when he finally returned from injury and made his first start in late April.) Alas, Stieb had left his fastball and his command and pretty well everything else on the operating table. Gaston pulled the plug on his erstwhile ace in late June. He gave Stieb two months - that's actually an extremely long leash for Gaston to give any pitcher, but it was Dave Stieb, after all. Wells, who had pitched well out of the pen (1-1, 3.20), went back into the rotation. And sucked - he went 5-6, 7.20 in a dozen starts. When they traded for David Cone, it was Wells who took a seat in the pen. And yet again, he pitched very well as a reliever, over the rest of the season and in the post-season.
They released him next spring anyway, mainly because Gaston was simply sick of the sight of him. Joe Torre would know that same feeling some day. But coming off the World Series win, Gaston actually had some clout in the organization, for the first time. He used it to get Wells and Derek Bell out of his life.
Just surfing around the net and it seems that Dodger fans are reasonably miffed that Don Mattingly, and not Tim Wallach, will be the next manager in LA.
I wonder if Wallach is on AA's short list.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Wells has hit better at the Rogers Centre than he has on the road this year, just as he's done over the course of his career (2009 was a pretty massive outlier). It's always been a pretty good hitter's park, and I've always suspected that it gave a particular boost to certain types of RH hitters.
The race to not be one of the 15 best teams in the league is really heating up. While currently the Jays are out of position, they are very well situated to make a move into the bottom half.
13. Chicago White Sox 10.0
14. St. Louis Cardinals 12.5
15. Toronto Blue Jays 15.0
16. Oakland Athletics 15.5
17. NY Mets 15.5
18. Florida Marlins 15.5
19. Detroit Tigers 16.0
20. LA Angels 17.0
21. LA Dodgers 17.5
22. Houston 18.0
Other than batting average, you'd have to take that. Those numbers work out to 36 doubles and 36 homers and 98 RBI over the course of 154 games, with a .846 OPS
I wonder if Wallach is on AA's short list.
From what little I've read about him, he's on mine.
In 1988, Cecil Fielder (a) had a .289 on-base percentage and (b) Good Lord, he was fat. When he hit all those home runs in Detroit, he was positively slim by comparison. (Fans used to yell "Moo!" at him when he was on base.) His low on-base percentage and his high BMI were likely related - he wasn't going to beat out any infield hits.
Before he went to Japan, all the available evidence suggested that Cecil was in the process of eating himself out of the big leagues. And the Jays had McGriff, who was an even better power hitter and more of a pure athlete. I can't really criticize the Jays' thinking here.
Some interesting trivia out of the 1 hour and 55 minute Jay-Oriole game on Wednesday, from ESPN.
According to Elias, it was the first nine-inning AL East matchup that got to the finish line in under two hours since another Jays-Orioles game on -- ready for this? -- Sept. 26, 2002 (Esteban L***** versus Pat Hentgen, in 1:59). Even more amazing, it was the shortest AL East game in over two decades -- since an epic 1 hour, 50-minute Jaime Navarro-John Dopson Brewers-Red Sox tussle on Oct. 1, 1989 (the final day of that season).
I've always thought the same thing. There's been a bunch of players who have benefitted from this: Gruber, Carter, Wells, Hill, and now Bautista.
I don't see it as a knock on a player if his home numbers are way better than his road numbers. Home games count for just as much in the standings as road games do. The 2010 Jays have benefitted from the fact that certain kinds of low-OBP right-handed hitters can be had fairly cheaply on the open market (Buck, Gonzo, Bautista) and can thrive here.
I'm pretty sure I've read from saber-types that it's common for players to hit better at home anyways (home cooking, whatever whatever).
In any case, 48 is already off the books as he seems to be hitting just fine at Fenway.
That is all.
I know it is not winning the World Series, which is the point of it all, but it definitely satisfying to be able to point to a quantifiable thing at which the Blue Jays were the best this year (two things if you count Bautista leading the league for individuals and the Blue Jays leading the league for teams).
Baseball has such a reciprocal love affair with statistics that I think teams should hang banners for winning major statistical categories. How many would the Blue Jays have, oh more-knowledgeable-than-I Bauxites?
Or to take the ridiculous idea even farther, perhaps the wild card playoff position(s) should be determined not by win/loss record, but by the winner of a particular statistical category. It could be different every year, which would totally mess with player value. One year it could be home runs, the next year it could be strikeouts. Small market teams could plan ahead and draft a bunch of strikeout artists to groom for a particular year. The last game of the season between two wild card contenders would consist of 100% bunts per side. It would totally ruin the integrity of baseball. But in a theoretical way, is kind of amusing.
The 70 home run season probably easily lead that category, but it would be an interesting leaderboard.
I was looking at past 50 home run hitters and one that caught my eye was George Foster. While I wouldn't argue he's a comparable hitter to Bautista, his 52 home run season came at age 28 and on the heels of a 23 and 29 home run season, so it was definitely a break out year and a late one at that. He was just shy of 2000 AB's going into the season, with a lot of part timing it prior to his age 26 season.
JBau had 1754 AB's enterring this season (his age 29 season) and was a 20-25 hr per year player based on full playing time.
I think the Foster comp is at least better than the Anderson comp. Foster immediately scaled back to 40 home runs in his age 29 season and 30 in his age 30 season but was a very productive player for several years.
Expansion makes this exceptionally unlikely. However, it is possible he is the leader in this category since the league has had this number of franchises.
sources:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ruthba01.shtml
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/hitting/hihr6.shtm
Has the league leader in home runs ever been on the Blue Jays before?
Like the magic 8-ball, baseball reference answers all. 1986. 1989.
McGwire: 70
70/5064 = 1.38%
2001: 5,458
Bonds: 73
73/5468 = 1.35%
Most home runs ever was 5,693 in 2000.
Tulowitzki has a knack for hitting in September and he's only getting better.
2007: .909 OPS
2008: .926
2009: 1.049
2010: 1.478
I find the comparison to Foster a difficult one. Foster didn't play as a regular until 1975 at age 26, but that was because the Big Red Machine had a left fielder who'd end up with the hits record. Foster was good enough that Rose shifted to third in 1975. That's a lot different than Bautista fighting for playing time in PIttsburgh.
Also, George Foster looked like an only slightly smaller version of a young George Foreman when he demolished Frazier. Foster's muscle to fat ratio was about 1/0.
When Foster hit 52, I think it was the first time since 1965 when Mays hit 52, that anyone had hit 50 since 1961. In other words, it had been done once in 16 years before Foster. In the three previous years to '77, the league leader in the NL hit 38, 38 and 36. Mike Schmidt, never hit 50 home runs, and led the league twice on 36, once on 37 and twice with 38 (Obviously '81 can be discounted). 50 home runs is a lot of home runs, and until the PED era, was an enormous achievement.
From 2001 to 2007, the AL league leaders in home runs had 50 home runs 4 times. All of the 2001-2007 AL leaders in home runs, [Rodriguez (5 times), Ortiz (once), Ramirez (once)] have since been outed as PED users.
As much as I want to believe that Jose Bautista's (now) 49 home runs are entirely clean and the result of Gaston/Murphy's improvements to his swing, I have to say that there is a bright red flag when someone hits as many home runs as he has, and leads the majors by as much as he does. This is particularly the case when he is a 30 year old, whose lack of playing time did not arise because he was trying to knock Pete Rose from his position, and who's previous OPS as a regular or quasi-regular player was in the .718 to .757 range over 4 seasons. I'm not saying this to diss Bautista at all - as I've noted I hope this is clean - but I shudder when I read on Red Sox boards for example that they believe Ortiz's PED use was 'accidental', or NYY boards that believe Rodriguez's stories etc. I think fans have to be as critical when they are assessing players on their team as they are players on other teams, and If a Bautista-like player was doing this in Baltimore right now, to use an example, I'd think there would be more eye brows here raised by 50 home runs. Not trying to rain on any parades, but I think this needs to be said.
Moreover, in addition to hgh, the steroid manufacturers have always manufactured against tests, that is, they have manufactured to avoid product detection. Manny Ramirez did not test positive for a steroid when he got caught. Rather, it was a masking agent.
As to why Bautista would take that risk, I would have thought it was somewhat obvious. He's in his second last year of arbitration eligibility, coming up to free agency, and the difference between the contracts offered to home run leaders and guys with a .720 to .760 OPS is very great in favour of the former.
I'm not saying there is no other plausible reason for Bautista's performance. But if you look at the posts and comparisons - Anderson, McGwire, Foster - the first two include an admitted user and a highly suspicious case, and for the reasons I've set out I don't think Jose Bautista is comparable to George Foster. I'm saying it's extremely rare in the pre-PED era to see guys like Bautista come up with 50 home runs and that it attracts scrutiny.
I think the success of testing is responsible for the fact that the second, third, and fourth highest home run totals this year are 39, 37 and 35. In 2001, the respective comparisons were 64, 57 and 52.
Pete Rose wasn't moved to third base to make room for Foster - he was moved to third to fill a hole in the lineup. The Reds badly needed a defensive upgrade in the infield. Dan Driessen had lined up at 3b in 1974. Driessen actually looked like a more promising hitter than Foster at the time. He'd hit .301 as a 21 year old rookie in 1973, and in 1974 he and Foster both posted an OPS+ of 110 - and Driessen, of course, was three years younger. The problem for Driessen was that he simply couldn't play third base. He had no range, and he made a ton of errors. After two years of this, Sparky's solution was to return Rose to the infield. This opened up left field for Foster, with Driessen going to the bench to wait for Tony Perez to get old...
At 6-1, 180, Foster was quite a bit smaller than George Foreman - he was like a wiry Jim Rice.
You mean "to wait for Tony Perez to get traded..."
To the Expos with Will McEnaney for Dale Murray and Woodie Fryman. What a horrible trade for the Reds. Perez had another seven or eight big league seasons in him, not of "Big Doggie" stature, necessarily. Honestly, the Reds have been trying to fill that hold ever since, with Driessen and Rose (of all people) then Esasky, Benzinger, Morris and Casey -- each had a long run (except Rose of course) but tthis team has been waiting a LONG time for Joey Votto!
Third last year of arbitration eligibility, you mean. If you're going to accuse Bautista of HGH, Bautista's unnatural rate of home runs would have to include last September's output of 10. So, he must have begun taking HGH at some point in the middle or towards the end of his third last year of arbitration eligibility.
Also, we are talking about what is likely to be the largest difference between a previous career high and a new career high in home runs in major league baseball history. Even accounting for Bautista's playing time, we are dealing with someone improving from about 25 home runs over a full season to what could end up as more than 50. If Bautista has found a drug that is this effective, he should start selling it to some other players (and wouldn't the manufacturer/dealer?). His total would look less suspicious and he would make a fortune, considering the improvement it has given him.
Also, we are talking about what is likely to be the largest difference between a previous career high and a new career high in home runs in major league baseball history.
Well, no -- I get what you mean, but for instance, Mark McGwire went from 3 in 1986 (50-some AB) to 49 in 1987 (+46) and Frank Robinson hit 38 as a true rookie in 1956. That's just off the top of my head, but I think your point about players with previous full seasons (BA qualifier) is reasonable. Brady Anderson was +29 (50 in 1996 from 21 in 1992) and that's probably the standard. Bautista is already +33 (from 16 in 2006.
Anyone else come to mind?
i don't remember the specific number but it was definately in the 30's.
It was Davy Johnson.
And it was the previous season to the current season, not from the previus career high.
Johnson went from 5 to 43 for +38
That was the tweet - still not sure of the outlier from the previous career high...looking...I got as far down the list as Fielder who is +37 from 14 (in 82 games) to 51
But you'd need a standard for number of PA in the previous high season before this would make any sense.
Truly fluke seasons are unusual, but they do happen. Establishing a new level of ability is unusual, but it does happen.
Looking back at Jays history who else catches my eye?
Devon White - 89 OPS+ over 2429 PA then hit for a 102 over his 2979 PA in Toronto, 101 over his last 5651 PA post-California. He was entering his age 28 season when he came here and had a career best 116 OPS+ that season. It wasn't until he was 37 that he had another year like all the ones pre-Toronto.
Alex Rios had an 85/84 his first 2 years before going for a 109 since (including that horrid year last year).
But these increases are nothing compared to Bautista's 91 over 2038 followed by a 166 this year at age 29. To have that big a jump the only name that comes to mind (and I hate to mention it) is Sammy Sosa from a 106 over 4374 PA to, at age 29, a 160. After that slow start he averaged 145 over his final 5522 PA's.
Ick. Not the guy I wanted to use, but of note is that Bautista's jump is even more than Sosa's was.
"No way, too high."For the record, I think there are players having better seasons, but Bautista should surely be in the top ten.