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This has been mentioned in these parts earlier but the Auburn Citizen recently speculated the Doubledays affiliation with the Blue Jays will come to an end after the 2010 season.  Reporter Kristin Kowaleski-Wolford claims it's the Jays are the ones who are walking out, a complete role reversal from the Syracuse-Toronto break-up.  She also makes comments in her blog about the D-Days/Jays parting of the ways.  Last week, Kowaleski-Wolford spoke with Charlie Wilson, the Jays director of minor league operations, about the possible end to the affiliation.

 



 

 

The Blue Jays and Doubledays have been joined at the hip since 2001 after the Jays-Queens Kings affiliation of 2000.  Before that, the Jays New York-Penn League affiliate was the St. Catharines Blue Jays/Stompers. The D-Days won six straight division titles from 2002 to 2007 with the 2007 team winning the league championship over the Brooklyn Cyclones, the team that relocated from Queens.  Brett Cecil was the winning pitcher and J.P. Arencibia homered in the championship clincher.  Other Jays players (past and present) who have spent time in Auburn also include Aaron Hill, Adam Lind, Marc Rzepczynski, Ricky Romero, Shaun Marcum, David Purcey, Dustin McGowan, Jesse Litsch, Josh Banks, Casey Janssen, Dave Bush and Brandon League.  Current Jays catcher John Buck was also in Auburn but that was when the club was affiliated with Houston.

The one constant of the Auburn-Toronto partnership has been Doubledays manager Dennis Holmberg, a Jays employee since 1979 who has managed in Auburn since 2002.  The D-Days pitching coach is Halifax native and former Jay Vince Horsman.

With the recent announcement that the Jays were already looking to add another farm team to the minor league system in 2011, this development with Auburn raises a question mark or two.  Do the Jays have an issue with Falcon Park or Auburn management?  Do they feel they have a better opportunity elsewhere in the NYPL?   Batavia appears to be on its last legs as the Rochester Red Wings don't feel like losing more money on them.  Could Niagara Falls or St. Catharines step in and bring minor league baseball back north of the border?  Just speculation on my part.

Also to be resolved are the Jays Player Development Contracts with Las Vegas and Lansing as they are up after the 2010 season.    Their deal with New Hampshire is in effect until 2012.  Major league and minor league teams can officially negotiate with each other after the minor league regular season ends.

In other minor league happenings, the Orioles are leaving Bluefield of the Appalachian League after 53 years.  Maybe the Jays might take that over and become the Bluefield Blue Jays.  You can keep track of affiliation comings and goings right here.

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Original Ryan - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 03:25 PM EDT (#221806) #
The thought of the Blue Jays buying Batavia occurred to me as well.  Welland has the best ballpark of any of the Ontario cities in that area, although I don't know what kind of fan support an affiliate might generate there or if it would be a better situation than Batavia.  London is probably too far away to be a candidate.
John Northey - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 03:39 PM EDT (#221809) #
Batavia would be interesting - it gives the Jays a shot at owning their minor league affiliate thus controlling all aspects which should be a preference for a team. Being in the NY-Penn league they could move to Southern Ontario easily as well if desired.
Original Ryan - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 04:31 PM EDT (#221818) #
When I first heard about the Blue Jays potentially dropping Auburn, it struck me as a bit odd considering the relationship between the two organizations and the fact that the facilities in Auburn appear to be reasonably up-to-date.  Thinking about it a bit more, here are my uneducated guesses about what might be happening:

The Blue Jays want a Short-A affiliate closer to New Hampshire
I think this is the most likely possibility.  The teams in Troy, New York (Tri-City ValleyCats) and Burlington, Vermont (Vermont Lake Monsters) haven't extended their current PDCs yet, and both teams are significantly closer to Manchester than Auburn is.  When the Jays first signed with Auburn, it made a lot of sense for the Blue Jays geographically due to its proximity to Syracuse, allowing team personnel to visit both clubs on the same trip.  Now Auburn is a bit out of the way.

The Blue Jays are interested in buying the Batavia Muckdogs and moving them to Southern Ontario
I'm doubtful on this one, if only because it's relatively rare for a major league team to own more than a handful of its affiliates.  Also, minor league teams left St. Catharines and Welland previously, so what makes those places more attractive now?

The Blue Jays want to affiliate with the Vancouver Canadians in the Northwest League
Very unlikely, in my opinion.  While it would be nice if the Jays had at least one affiliate in Canada, Vancouver would make travel for team personnel challenging.  It just wouldn't make a lot of sense.
TheBunk - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 04:38 PM EDT (#221819) #
Short Season ball in Welland would be a dream come true.
Original Ryan - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 04:47 PM EDT (#221820) #
Then again, it just occurred to me that Paul Beeston is from Welland.  Maybe the Blue Jays do want to go there.
92-93 - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 04:49 PM EDT (#221821) #

The Bunk never seemed to me like a guy who would appreciate minor league baseball...who leaves his son at an Orioles game to go back to work?!

cybercavalier - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 04:50 PM EDT (#221823) #
How about in Ottawa? Reincarnation of the Lynx as a short season team?
Thomas - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 06:37 PM EDT (#221834) #
The Bunk never seemed to me like a guy who would appreciate minor league baseball...who leaves his son at an Orioles game to go back to work?!

Well played.

tercet - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 06:47 PM EDT (#221836) #
Charlie Wilson just said on fan590 that their will be some exciting news in the upcoming days, so who will the Jays be signing?
TamRa - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 07:23 PM EDT (#221838) #
Bastian tweets the AFL players:

RHPs Daly (Dun), Farina (NH), Farquhar (NH) plus 1 more P; INFs Hechavarria (NH), McDade (Dun) & OF Thames (NH).

A far more solid crew than in some past years.I wonder if the unnamed pitcher will be a starter? The bigger names can't afford the IP - probably Perez or Ray or even Boone just as, basically, filler. Magnuson is another possibility if we concede we don't have a starter that deserves it.


Troy_k - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 07:31 PM EDT (#221839) #
Like Original Ryan, I thought it was strange that a seemingly good relationship with Auburn was ending.  I know that the Lake Monsters(SS) might be available. The Royals have two teams(rookie and low A) in Burlington whose PDC's are expiring though I'm not sure they're looking to move. I wonder if the Jays might look to consolidate 3 teams in a single city? Burlington does have direct flights from/to Toronto.
Lugnut Fan - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 08:26 PM EDT (#221842) #

There may be some confusion as far as the Royals affiliation with Burlington Troy.  While it is true that the Royals have a low A and a short season rookie affilation with Burlington, it isn't the same city.  The Low A affiilate is the MWL and is in Burlington Iowa.  The rookie affiliate is in the Appalachian League and is in the Carolina's. 

I am wondering what the plans are for minor league affiliations that are up with the Jays this year.  While it is being reported that there is a likely divorce between Auburn and Toronto, the PDC's are up in Lansing and Las Vegas as wel.  It is a natural for the Jays to try and find an affiliate that isn't so far away, although the affiliation most likely will stay in the PCL for the forseeable future.  I am scratching my head as far as what is going on with the low A affiliation and the situation in Lansing.  It has never taken this long in previous PDC renewals between the two and the people in Lansing are very mum on the situation.  I asked a Lugnut employee this weekend on the situation and all I was told was "I can't talk about it".  With the season winding down, and the Lugnuts not even giving a hint that there is an announcement upcoming, I'm speculating that there may be a new low A affiliate as well......But again, that is purely speculation on my part.

Matthew E - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 09:21 PM EDT (#221844) #
I'd like two things. I'd like the Jays out of Vegas--I think it's a rotten location to develop players, and the distance is no help--and I'd like the Jays to have a minor-league team of any level in Ottawa (for preference) or nearish Toronto (second choice) or in Montreal (third choice) or anyway somewhere in Canada.
Marc Hulet - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 09:53 PM EDT (#221845) #
I'm good for season tickets if pro ball comes back to London, Ontario.
jgadfly - Tuesday, August 31 2010 @ 10:13 PM EDT (#221846) #

Is anybody else surprised to hear that Travis D'Arnaud had a season ending operation for a herniated disc in his back earlier in the month ?   Also Gose and D'Arnaud named FSL all-stars. 

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100831&content_id=14137420&vkey=news_t424&fext=.jsp&sid=t424

 

SJE - Wednesday, September 01 2010 @ 06:42 AM EDT (#221850) #

I agree with the selections made for the AFL. I wonder if the remaining pitchers spot could be filled by Deck McGuire, similar to what the Nationals did withStrassburg last year and what they are considering to do Bryce Harper. Deck was considered the most polished pitcher in the draft. I also think Magnuson would be a good pick if a RP is required. I no or little point in sending filler guys, although I find Boone slightly more intriguing.

TamRa - Wednesday, September 01 2010 @ 08:07 AM EDT (#221852) #
it's true you gain little from sending filler, but we do it every year.

Magnuson, it turns out, will leave immediately after the AA playoffs to join Team Canada along with Bowman and Loewen. So he's otherwise engaged.

Seems to me that the only 4 candidates left that make sense are Roenicke, Perez, Bell (if he's not disqualified by ending the season in A ball - asuming he does) and Boone.

Personally, i'd like to see Bell go if the rules allow (my understanding is that you can only send one guy below AA and that's McDade)


sam - Wednesday, September 01 2010 @ 02:10 PM EDT (#221865) #
Ya what's this exciting news Charlie Wilson is talking about, any guesses?
ramone - Wednesday, September 01 2010 @ 02:15 PM EDT (#221866) #

Ya what's this exciting news Charlie Wilson is talking about, any guesses?

I'm hoping it's adding a Canadian minor legue affiliate team to replace Auburn perhaps.  I don't think it will be a signing as it wouldn't follow the MO the Jays have shown this year by keeping absolutely silent on signings until they are completely official even when the rest of the baseball world has reported it.

sam - Wednesday, September 01 2010 @ 05:07 PM EDT (#221883) #
Correct me if I'm wrong.  I don't think they're allowed to announce new affiliates and changes of that sort until after the Minor League Baseball season is done.  I guess that leaves a new signing, possibly Rougned Odor (as per Ben Badler at BA) or maybe that Deck Macguire will make a start before the year is done?  Certainly the other possibility is that the Jays have come to an agreement with a current Minor League affiliate on a new player devlopment contract (Lansing or Las Vegas)?  I can't think of anything else 
Moe - Wednesday, September 01 2010 @ 05:19 PM EDT (#221886) #
They could announce that they bought a team...


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