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Jonathan Paul Arencibia has been called up to Baseball North to fill in for the injured John Buck according to the National Post.  A foul tip off the bat of "Mr. 600 Homers*" cut the thumb on Buck's throwing hand and he has been placed on the 15-day disabled list.



Arencibia was profiled on Jays Vision during the 80's Night contest in which the Jays beat the Orioles 9-5.

Arencibia was selected in the first round out of Tennessee but he was the second player chosen by the Jays.  Third baseman Kevin Ahrens was taken five picks before him.

Arencibia at the Arizona Fall League and Spring Training.

JPA's 31 homers tie him for the minor league lead with Visalia's Paul Goldschmidt.

Arencibia was hitting. 303/.360./.639 and his OPS was just two points shy of 1.000.  In addition to his 31 homers and 79 runs batted in, he clubbed 32 doubles and legged out a triple.  The 6-foot-1, 210 pound right-handed hitting catcher batted .325 against right-handed pitches but only .230 against lefties.    The 24 year-old Miami native batted. 328 with 16 homers and 43 RBI on the road, bettering his home totals of .277, 15 homers and 36 RBI.

I'm looking forward to Arencibia's debut, which could come Friday night as the Jays host Tampa Bay.  The last catcher I held high hopes for had a decent debut as a DH but he did not live up to the hype.  Will Arencibia make his big league debut with or without the tools of ignorance at home plate?  Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to seeing JPA in action.

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jgadfly - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 03:50 AM EDT (#219866) #
Coincidently,  Arencibia attended the same Miami high school as 'Mr. 600 Homeruns' and tied his record for career HR's in 2004 with 17 . 
greenfrog - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 08:10 AM EDT (#219867) #
"The tools of ignorance" is one of my all-time favourite baseball expressions.

According to fangraphs, Arencibia's AAA numbers translate into a park-adjusted 291/348/601. That's pretty dang good.

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/recent-promotions-arencibia-west/
Gerry - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 08:52 AM EDT (#219870) #
As I reminder, I interviewed JP Arencibia in 2008.  You can find it here.
Mike Green - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 09:13 AM EDT (#219872) #
The Fangraphs minor league translations for Las Vegas players are out by miles.  There's some kind of bug.  I had the same issue with the Wallace translation.  Arencibia's translated slugging percentage would be between .500 and .550 (no matter how you do the translation), not over .600.  I am sure that he would be happy with that.
Olerud363 - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 09:30 AM EDT (#219874) #

Most of the ones I've seen have him at .260 .310 .525 or so....  John Buck 2010.

But that's not a bad player if that's his average for 10 years... and the Jays get on base percentage from other positions.

Mike Green - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 09:42 AM EDT (#219875) #
No kidding. 

Anyways, I wish him well. 

Denoit - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 09:56 AM EDT (#219876) #

This is just my opinion but trying to predict what a player will do in the Majors just by numbers is pretty useless. I look forward to just watching him play for a couple weeks (maybe more). Even if he is only as good as John Buck has been this year, I think thats good enough to be a catcher on a championship team.

Magpie - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 11:53 AM EDT (#219894) #
And you thought the JP era was over...

Can someone tell me how to pronounce "Arencibia?"
budgell - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 12:04 PM EDT (#219896) #
Ey-ren-ceebia
John Northey - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#219912) #
Good to see service time isn't controlling what the Jays do. They could've left JPA in AAA for all of 2010 and for a month in 2011 and thus had him for 2011-2017 but instead by bringing him up now made it so he is here for 2010-2016 (if he never goes down again) before free agency.

I know I'd rather see JPA here now and let the Jays owners decide if he is worth millions in 2017 than leave him in the minors for months when he really doesn't need to be left down there.
Mylegacy - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 04:00 PM EDT (#219926) #
I've got a good feeling about JP - but I fear he's coming up at a bad time for him.

Firstly, the good - we've tons of "power" - usually when a hotshot "power" guy comes up his team is salivating to get his bat into the line-up - to the Jays he's just another interesting stick. This will take the pressure off him to start slamming from the get go.

The bad: the last 8+ weeks of the schedule we've still to play the Rays 9 times (starting tomorrow), NY 9 times, Bos 9 times, Tex, Min and Det 4 times each and for some comic relief Bal for 6 games. There really isn't any easy way to wean JP into the lineup. He doesn't know the pitchers nor does he know these teams hitters - the kid will coming cold turkey into the last two rounds of a heavy weight Championship fight. Not good for him - not so good for the team either.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cito lets him get his feet wet doing some DHing. With his power and his catching ability - if one or two of d'Arnaud, Perez, Jiminez or Nessy turn into the guys it looks like they might - we could see JP at 1st - and doing very nicely there I would think.

No matter what happens - JP - welcome to the SHOW!

TamRa - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 07:01 PM EDT (#219954) #

breaking my own rule about sample size and the like - but this year has swung me back around to the idea that if d'Arnaud wants to be the catcher of the future (instead of JPA) he's the one who's going to have to gird up his loins and prove himself better, not the other way round.

However - that's a tentative position given that we are aware d'Arnaud had a back injury and those are notorious for lingering effects. Because of that i have to give him a partial mulligan, at least, on 2010. Still, i think JPA has staked his claim and unless he flounders for 2-3 years tryingto adjust to the bigs, it's his job to lose.

(in the long long long range view, I begin to wonder if our third baseman on the CToF will actually be one of the guys currently playing at catcher?)

 

 

Mylegacy - Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 10:11 PM EDT (#219959) #
WillRain - your observation on 3rd just might be accurate.

Or maybe one of Thames, Sierra or dare I say it...oh say it, oh say it - even perchance Loewen.

TamRa - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 12:09 AM EDT (#219963) #
I dunno, coming in from the outfield to the infield is seldom done.

John Lott's peice today aluded to the possibility of Escobar sliding over to 3B when Adeiny is ready (assuming he's extended long enough to be part of the "long term" conversation)

There's also been a lot said about Pierre eventually playing third but he seems to be five years or more away.


cascando - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 02:39 AM EDT (#219969) #
Loewen throws with his left arm, so he is not going to play 3B.

Seems like it would be a waste to put Sierra there.

I can see it being Emaus or one of the minor league C, doesn't Ochinko spend some time at 3B? 

CSHunt68 - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 09:05 AM EDT (#219971) #
"This is just my opinion but trying to predict what a player will do in the Majors just by numbers is pretty useless."

Why is that? History, and the numbers, would disagree with you.
uglyone - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 09:36 AM EDT (#219972) #

breaking my own rule about sample size and the like - but this year has swung me back around to the idea that if d'Arnaud wants to be the catcher of the future (instead of JPA) he's the one who's going to have to gird up his loins and prove himself better, not the other way round.

JPA has pretty clearly moved past D'Arnaud on the COTF list, and Perez and Jiminez might feel slighted by being listed behind D'Arnaud as well.

I think we were all excited to get those 3 nice prospects from Philly back for Halladay....but it's funny that these 3 top-100 prospects have come over to what was apparently one of the worst systems in baseball, and been outplayed by quite a few of our crappy prospects from our crappy system.

 

 

Mike Green - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 09:49 AM EDT (#219973) #
How about giving due credit to the 24 and 1/2 year old for a good half-season in Las Vegas without detracting from the fine performances of the 19 and 20 year olds in A ball?  FWIW, the best season by a catcher in the system, with adjustments for age, level, environment and taking into account defence, has probably been put in by Jimenez.  He wouldn't have been my pick for the catcher of the future at the start of the season, but youneverknow.
John Northey - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 09:50 AM EDT (#219974) #
This is what I'm expecting long term (2012 or even sometime in 2011)...
CA: JPA
1B: Lind
2B: Hill
3B: Escobar
SS: Hechavarria
LF: Thames (Loewen possible too but has slowed it seems)
CF: Wells (Mastroianni if Wells shifts)
RF: Snider (or one of the above if goes to DH)
DH: Mix and match from outfield/1B

Lewis & Bautista are in the mix until rookies are ready, and could be long term if current levels are maintained although I see Lewis as more of a 4th guy/platoon mix. Bautista in RF with Snider in LF to start 2011 would be nice with Thames or Loewen or Mastroianni or someone else jumping in ASAP.

The infield defense would be scary good outside of 1B, the outfield could be very bad or very good depending on Wells shifting over and which kids make it.
MatO - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 10:10 AM EDT (#219975) #
With 7 triples Perez looks like he's a much better athlete than your typical catcher.  I wonder if a position change to 2nd or 3rd wouldn't be a bad idea since his bat might be pretty special.
Mike Green - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 10:20 AM EDT (#219976) #
I agree that it is something that the organization ought to consider.  Perez hasn't done too well this season throwing out baserunners.
Ryan Day - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 10:44 AM EDT (#219977) #
Between Perez's triples and Jimenez's 17 steals, the Jays must have the fastest catchers in the minors. Both are very promising, but they're both 2-4 years away from the majors, depending on how they develop, and lots of bad things can happen to a catcher. BA likes Perez's defence, so take that for what you will.

You certainly need to consider D'arnaud's injury when evaluating him, but that swings both ways: He could re-establish himself as a top prospect if he's fully healthy, but back injuries could be chronic, and I can't imagine catching is going to help.
#2JBrumfield - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 11:23 AM EDT (#219979) #
Arencibia will be wearing number 9 for the Jays so he takes over Gregg Zaun's number and some other guy named John Olerud who batted .363 once back in the day.  Other number nines in the Blue Jay blue - Barry Bonnell, Rick Cerone, Rick Bosetti and Darrin Fletcher to name a few.
John Northey - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 12:51 PM EDT (#219985) #
9 does seem to be a catchers number lately.
Zaun - 2004-2008
Tom Wilson - 2003
Fletcher - 1998-2002
Olerud (1B) - 1989-1996
Bob Brenley - 1989 (back to catchers)
Rick Leach (1B/LF) - 1984-1988
Barry Bonnell (OF) - 1980-1983
Rick Cerone - 1977-1979

Thus number 9 has been a catcher 5 (now 6) times while a 1B/OF has been it 3 times. You don't have to be slow as a snail to wear it, but it sure doesn't hurt. :)

Years by catchers: 15 (OK, 14 5/6) soon to be 16.
Years by others: 17 (OK, 16 1/6 - Olerud was here only for September in 1989)

According to B-R Alex Gonzalez (SS) - 1994-2001 but according to Baseball Almanac he wore #8 (makes sense as John Olerud was here when A-Gon came up).
chocolatethunder - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 03:41 PM EDT (#219990) #
Litsch out for year, Mills called up as per John Lott's twitter
Mike Green - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 03:48 PM EDT (#219991) #
According to Lott, Litsch's injury is a right labral tear in his right hip (not the shoulder).  I checked and it does exist. 
Also, Lott says that Molina will be catching tonight.

Christopher - Friday, August 06 2010 @ 03:58 PM EDT (#219993) #
Lott also indicating that Molina starts tonight behind the plate.
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