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So... where exactly does the Blue Jays pitching stand at the moment? Why don't we investigate.


Well the Blue Jays injury parade continues. Doc left his last start with a groin injury and will be put on the 15-day DL, Casey Janssen just got put on the 15 day disabled list with inflamation in his left shoulder, Jesse Litsch underwent season ending Tommy John Surgery and Scott Downs came up limp running to first in the 10th last night and is also going on the DL. So, where does that leave the pitching in the next couple of days?

Jeremy Accardo has been called up to replace Downs and Brad Mills is getting called up to start today's game against Philadelphia. Brian Tallet makes his scheduled start on Friday against the Natinals, and Saturday's starter will be Brett Cecil, who's scheduled start would have come on Saturday in AAA. Ricky goes on Sunday, and Richmond will take the bump the following game. So:

Rotation

Thursday: Brad Mills (AAA)      13 GS 76.1 ip 81 h   6 hr  34 bb 65 k 4.48 era
Friday: Brian Tallet:                 12 GS 77.2 ip 65 h 10 hr  35 bb 58 k 4.87 era
Saturday: Brett Cecil (?): (AAA)  9 GS 49.0 ip 53 h   2 hr 19 bb  32 k 5.69 era/ ML 4 GS 24.2 ip 28 h 7 hr 6 bb 18 k
Sunda: Ricky Romero:                8 GS 50.2 ip 52 h   9 hr 16 bb  41 k 3.73 era
Monday: Scott Richmond          11 GS 70.1 ip 62 h  10 hr 23 bb 60 k 3.58 era

Bullpen

Jeremy Accardo (AAA)  21 G 24.0 ip 28 h 0 hr  7 bb 22 k 3.38 era
Shawn Camp                20 G 25.2 ip 26 h 2 hr 11 bb 18 k 3.86 era
Jesse Carlson               31 G 30.1 ip 32 h 2 hr  9 bb 19 k 5.04
Dirk Hayhurst                 4    5.2 ip  4 h  0 hr 0 bb   4 k 0.00 era
BJ Ryan                       20 G 17.0 ip 19 h 3 hr 12 bb 12 k 5.82 era
Brandon League           25 G 28.0 ip 29 h 3 hr  9 bb  24 k 5.79 era
Jason Frasor                25 G 23.2 ip 15 h 1 hr  3 bb  19 k 1.90 era

Frasor is the de facto closer at the moment but League might also pitch in late game situations.

DL:
Roy Halladay
Jesse Litsch
Shaun Marcum
Dustin McGowan
Casey Janssen
Bobby Ray
Scott Downs

Just for fun, here's who's pitched for the Blue Jays so far this season, in case you'd forgotten:

Doc 14 GS
Tallet 12 GS
Richmond 11 GS
Ricky 8 GS
Purcey 5 GS
Janssen 5 GS
Cecil 4 GS
Ray 4 GS
Litsch 2 GS
Burres 2 GS

Carlson 31 G
Downs 26 G
Frasor 25 G
League 25 G
Ryan 20 G
Camp 20 G
Murphy 8 G
Wolfe 7 G
Bullington 4 G
Hayhurst 4 G

So Mills will be the Jays 11th starter and Accardo their 11th reliever. 22 pitchers already and its not even July. Mercy.
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Gerry - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 12:49 PM EDT (#201511) #
Jordan Bastian has confirmed that Brett Cecil will start on Saturday.
Jevant - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 01:14 PM EDT (#201514) #
If we didn't already need another reason to love Marco, he just took Blanton to 10 pitches in the game's first AB.

Even when he makes outs he helps the team in other ways.

Mike Green - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 01:28 PM EDT (#201515) #
Gameday said that 3 of the pitches to Victorino were strikes.  For those who are watching, is the ump squeezing the rook?
Alex Obal - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 01:52 PM EDT (#201518) #
Yeah. Ball 3 to Victorino in particular looked questionable. I think he's squeezing Blanton too.

It's Meriwether, if that means anything to anyone.
Magpie - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 01:53 PM EDT (#201519) #
There is no team in the majors that Jayson Werth has hit more HRs against than Toronto!? And he plays in the other league! 6 HRs in 28 at bats?

We need a new scouting report.
Chuck - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 02:10 PM EDT (#201522) #

 If we didn't already need another reason to love Marco, he just took Blanton to 10 pitches in the game's first AB.

And another reason? Blanton walks him. Scutaro jogs to first and sees that no one is covering second so makes a mad dash for the bag, getting there easily. I'm not sure I have ever seen that before.

Scutaro and Rios average out to having a normal baseball IQ.

LouisvilleJayFan - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 02:36 PM EDT (#201524) #
Gameday said that 3 of the pitches to Victorino were strikes.  For those who are watching, is the ump squeezing the rook?

This ump has the craziest strike zone. Blanton walks!?!
Chuck - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#201525) #

I mistakenly believed Brad Mills to be the son of the Red Sox coach and ex-Expo of the same name. Watching him pitch, however, he's clearly Jamie Moyer's love child. Same m.o. out there.

PeteMoss - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 02:56 PM EDT (#201526) #

I was reading on MLB Trade Rumors that Scutaro is likely to be a Group A free agent this year.. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/06/probable-type-a-free-agents.html

Barajas is on the cusp of Group A.... so depending on what happens this off-season the Jays could be looking at a boatload of picks next draft. 

Not sure how accurate that is but interesting that some of the bigger name guys (Lackey, Vlad, etc) aren't projected to be Group A. 

Noah - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#201527) #
sure glad we have VW in the 3 hole.  Clearly asking your "best offensive player" to simply get a ball into the outfield is too much to ask. 
Maldoff - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 03:05 PM EDT (#201528) #

Noah, let's be fair - Hill didn't get the job done either!

Noah - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 03:23 PM EDT (#201529) #

Yes that is fair, but to be fair to Aaron Hill, he has been producing throughout the season.

This circumstance isn't an abberation for Vernon Wells, that is my point.  The fact that he remains the number 3 hitter in our lineup is pathetic.

Noah - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 03:25 PM EDT (#201530) #

of course right after I type that Hill strikes out with the bases loaded :-S

Magpie - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 03:26 PM EDT (#201531) #
That's right, rip the guy who's 2-3 and drove in a run. Don't mention the guy who's 0-3...

OK, 0-4.
Jevant - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 03:34 PM EDT (#201532) #
Wells is on a cold streak, but has been hustling, trying, stealing bases (11 SB, ZERO CS) and doing everything he can to contribute.  And he's coming around.  Don't think it doesn't bother him, it does.  Rios might be another story, but the autograph incident actually suggested he cares too.

It's tough to watch, but all players struggle.  And they're allowed to, as long as they are trying.

Jdog - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 03:37 PM EDT (#201533) #

Barajas would have to be offered arbitration(and decline) in order for the Jays to get a draft pick from him. If the Jays did offer arbitration and he did decline I can't really see anybody giving up their 1st round pick to sign Barajas.  As For Scutaro I would gladly forfeit any extra picks to get him signed to a 2 or 3 year extension. We have needed a leadoff man and a SS for a long time and we finally found one.

PeteMoss - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 03:40 PM EDT (#201534) #
Carlson strikes out the side.... very nice to see.  A return to form by him while Downs is out would be very helpful.
Magpie - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:23 PM EDT (#201535) #
Oh noes! It's Brandon League out of the dugout! Not this time, OK?
China fan - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:25 PM EDT (#201536) #

Seems that the Jays do fine with their hitting until they get the bases loaded.  Then they can't hit a thing.  What's the deal with that?

 

Mike Green - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:28 PM EDT (#201537) #
Nailed that one, Magpie.
Chuck - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#201539) #

Cito and double-switches. A decade and half later and he still gets flummoxed by the concept.

christaylor - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:42 PM EDT (#201540) #
Hate to admire a play that may well cost the Jays the game (and as I preview this comment Barajas parks one) but that Mayberry Jr. throw was nice.

Rios has an arm, as well, of course, but he's rarely that accurate.

I missed Mills' 3.2 innings -- his line doesn't look good (especially the number of pitches) and there's talk about him being squeezed above; was he as bad as his numbers suggest?
Noah - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:42 PM EDT (#201541) #

ROD!!!!

 

hmmm now who comes out to close the door....?

Accardo get a save opp in his first day back in the bigs?

Noah - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:47 PM EDT (#201542) #

dear Lord... BJ??? UGH

reverse jinx reverse jinx

Jevant - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:58 PM EDT (#201543) #
Jeremy Accardo lives.  After all the bad news of the last couple days, a road sweep of the World Champs is a nice break.   Now let's do it to WAS.
Magpie - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:58 PM EDT (#201544) #
Had 'em all the way.
damos - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 05:04 PM EDT (#201545) #
That was a crazy came.  Up & down & up & down...pins & needles.
I feel like I need a drink to calm down.

Accardo!  Barajas!
Sweep!

Sano - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 05:09 PM EDT (#201546) #
Wow. 

The thing that surprises me is that this team is still above .500 considering all the injuries and upheaval with the pitching and the lacklustre performance from two of the player we were relying on most to provide.  Somehow they still get it done.

China fan - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 05:15 PM EDT (#201547) #
Frasor throws 4 pitches, blows the save, and still ends up with the win, making him 5-0 on the season.   Nobody but Doc has more wins than him.
chris_jays - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 05:34 PM EDT (#201548) #
I think more of a big deal needs to be made about the lack of a double switch in the 8th inning.

Frasor should have come in for chavez batting 8th while barajas should have come in for 9th.

Barajas would have led off the 9th inning still and we could have used Frasor for the 9th instead of Ryan / Accardo.

Mick Doherty - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 05:38 PM EDT (#201549) #

22 pitchers already and its not even July. Mercy.

I honestly didn't know if that was a lot, so I went to BBRef -- the 1993 Jays (they did well) only used 16 pitchers the entire season? And the 2004 team (they, uh, did not do so well) used 25 (including Frankie Menechino) ... So yeah, I guess 22 by mid-June is a lot, huh?

The '77 expansion Jays only used 15? Last year's Jays used 19? Last year's World Champ Phillies used 18 and the AL Champ Rays used 21? So yeah, definitely, 22 by mid-June appears to be a LOT.

China fan - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 06:03 PM EDT (#201550) #
Did anyone predict that our light-hitting catcher, Rod Barajas, would have more RBIs than Alex Rios OR Vernon Wells by June 18?   Barajas is having himself a pretty decent season, but that statistic is mostly a commentary on Rios and Wells.   (Wells, for what it's worth, did at least manage a good series against the Phillies, going 6-for-16 at the plate....)
jmoney - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 06:46 PM EDT (#201552) #
Wells saved his best game for today it would seem. Good for him.

Boy did B.J. look mad when Cito hooked him. Let's be honest here B.J. your location and command have been terrible and every Jay pitcher has been striking out Howard in this series.

John Northey - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 06:49 PM EDT (#201554) #
Well, the Yankees have used 19 so far, Boston 16, Tampa 17.

Last year the Yankees used 27 (!) all of whom were pitchers, no hitters getting their dream unlike this year with Swisher.

Magpie - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 07:06 PM EDT (#201555) #
Boy did B.J. look mad when Cito hooked him.

I think he was still steamed about two of the pitches to Utley that were called balls: the 1-1 and (especially) the 2-1.
snider - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 08:33 PM EDT (#201556) #

Scutaro and Rios average out to having a normal baseball IQ.

Ha, I love it.

 
I"ve got to find a replay of that Scutaro walk/double.  Does that count as a stolen base? I guess so.
ayjackson - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 08:55 PM EDT (#201557) #

I hope Stephen Chad Jenkins signs soon - by my math, he should be getting called up to the big club mid-August, right after Andrew Leibel hits the DL

LouisvilleJayFan - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 09:47 PM EDT (#201558) #

I hope Stephen Chad Jenkins signs soon - by my math, he should be getting called up to the big club mid-August, right after Andrew Leibel hits the DL

Ha! This made me laugh.

Mike Green - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 10:01 PM EDT (#201560) #
Nothing like a trip to Citizen's Bank to bring the bats to life.  Chavez is doing a nice job in the backup catcher role- controlling the running game and making more of an offensive contribution than Ken Huckaby or Jason Phillips did.  He was supposed to be a placeholder until Arencibia proved himself ready, but now it looks like he'll be here all season.
chris_jays - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 10:08 PM EDT (#201561) #
What about Michael Barret... what will happen to him?
greenfrog - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 10:27 PM EDT (#201562) #
Sweet revenge for Barajas and Rolen, both of whom had a banner series against their former employer and disgruntled fan base.

It's amazing to me that the Jays are one game out of the wildcard after a nine-game losing streak and a boatload of pitching injuries. The team has basically been keeping it together with duct tape and bubblegum. Once Doc is healthy again, and Janssen joins the bullpen, I guess we're looking at a rotation of Doc/Romero/Tallet/Richmond, with Cecil, Burres, Mills, Ray or someone else in the #5 slot.

I noticed on mlbtraderumors.com the other day that Scutaro is potentially a Type A free agent this off-season, with Barajas a fringe Type A candidate as well. This season gets weirder and weirder...
Ron - Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 11:32 PM EDT (#201564) #
I have a dirty secret to share with the rest of you….. I’ve DVR’ed almost every game this season so I can skip the commercials, pitching changes, people stepping off the mound/out of the batters box, etc…..  I love baseball but there’s simply too much “dead” time while watching on television.

At this point, this is my Jays game of the year.

The Ugly:

- This was my first time watching Brad Mills pitch and hopefully it’s the last time at the major league level this season. He makes Jamie Moyer look like he has electric stuff. Mill’s fastball was sitting at 86/87 mph and he had trouble hitting the strike zone with all of his pitches. From what I witnessed, he’s a junkball pitcher. I’m glad Cito gave him the quick hook before the game got out of hand.

- BJ Ryan. I don’t mean to kick a guy while he is down, but Ryan should never be used in a close game unless there are no other pitchers available. As Ryan walked off the mound, he gave Meriwether an earful but the pitchers that were called balls were balls in my eyes. I’ll be Mr. Obvious and say the 2006 Ryan is never going to return.

The Bad:

- I have no idea what Raul Chavez was thinking when he turned around while running towards 1st base in the 7th inning. Fletcher mentioned it could have easily turned into a double play and he was right.

The Good:

- Marco Scutaro. Today was the first time I’ve ever seen a player turn a walk into 2 bases. Once ball 4 was called, he looked at Blanton right away to see if he was paying attention and once he went to 1st base, he took a brief pause and than turned on the burners. Ignoring steals, Scutaro is the best base runner on the Jays. He’s the best SS in the AL this season. If he can keep this up, some team will pay him a lot of money in the off-season and probably regret it.

- Adam Lind. It doesn’t matter if the pitcher is a righty or a lefty, he’s torching them. Lots of people were saying he should have been used as trade bait in the off-season but boy have those discussions disappeared. His pitch recognition has vastly improved.

- Vernon Wells. He had a clutch hit in the 8th and took a hit away from Werth in the 9th.

The Somewhat Amusing:

- If the Phillies tied it up in the bottom of the 9th, Overbay was going to pitch in the 10th. Hey if Swisher can do it, why can’t Overbay?

- The Phillies are 13-19 at home and 23-9 on the road. I have no explanation for this and neither do the Philly players.

ayjackson - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 01:32 AM EDT (#201566) #

Anthopoulos was on the Odd Couple today (PTS with McCown&Brunt) and said some really interesting things, particularly about tracking pitching (appearances, ups, ups & hots).  Anyway, one interesting tidbit was that Janssen would be back throwing on Monday and his days of starting are over.  He also said that Zip would be headed to Vegas to fill in for Cecil/Mills.

Short Season ball starts today.

China fan - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 05:06 AM EDT (#201567) #

With Purcey and Castro waiting in the wings, I wonder how many more chances Brad Mills will be given?  He was very unimpressive yesterday, and there really wasn't much at Las Vegas to suggest that he is ready for the majors yet.  One or two more starts, and then Purcey is back?  Based on the season so far, Cito and JP are quite comfortable with limiting the young pitchers to just a small handful of starts before giving them the hook.  It's nice to give Mills a taste of the majors, to prepare him for a possible role in 2010, but there's no point in throwing him out there regularly when there are good pitchers like Purcey and Castro available.

Similarly, I have to wonder whether BJ Ryan will stay much longer on the major-league team.  Cito is openly questioning Ryan's command, and he yanked him very quickly from the 9th inning yesterday.  When a manager is publicly expressing his lack of faith in a reliever, it's a sure sign that he won't be with the team much longer.  It's very interesting that the Jays are now confirming Casey Janssen's future as a reliever.  When he and Downs come off the DL, we might see Ryan going on -- with one of those mysterious injuries that the Jays like to trot out as an excuse to send a pitcher to extended spring training for a while.

China fan - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 06:15 AM EDT (#201568) #

Here are Cito's actual words about BJ Ryan, which show (rather devastatingly) his lack of trust in the guy:   "It's not so much his velocity," Gaston said. "He doesn't have any control."

Cito said this BEFORE yesterday's game, when Ryan committed the near-fatal sin of issuing a leadoff walk in the 9th inning of a one-run game. Cito must have been even more furious after that.

And here, courtesy of Jordan Bastian, are the particulars on Ryan's failure to throw strikes:  During Ryan's last nine appearances, which included 6 2/3 innings, he has allowed four hits and issued five walks, throwing strikes at a 56-percent rate. On Wednesday against Philadelphia, Ryan used 17 pitches and threw only six strikes to the four hitters he faced. 

brent - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 07:07 AM EDT (#201569) #
It's about time we had four lefties in the starting rotation! For too long we have been subjected to the tyranny of all those right handers (excluding Doc).
greenfrog - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 07:11 AM EDT (#201570) #
I wonder how much of a correlation there is between a pitcher's age when he has TJ surgery and his prospects of post-surgery success. It would seem to make sense that the younger you are, the better the chances that your body successfully adapts. An older pitcher like Ryan might have more muscle memory to overcome, making it harder to locate his pitches consistently.
mathesond - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 09:09 AM EDT (#201571) #
Los Borrachos had a post dedicated to the Anthopoulos interview, focusing mainly on the lack of positive news regarding McGowan

http://www.drunkjaysfans.com/2009/06/will-mcgowan-ever-pitch-again.html
Ryan Day - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 09:11 AM EDT (#201572) #
there's no point in throwing him out there regularly when there are good pitchers like Purcey and Castro available.

I don't know if Castro would be any better than Mills: His 25/28 bb/k rate at AAA doesn't inspire confidence. Similarly, I don't think there's much point in bringing up Purcey until he's got some of his control back.


chris_jays - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 09:52 AM EDT (#201573) #
The jays only need 1 more start before Halladay gets back from the 5th starter.

This is on the 27th.

I'd much prefer to see Purcey throw against the Phillies than Mills.

chris_jays - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 10:04 AM EDT (#201574) #
i'd like to see the jays send down mills as we don't need the 5th starter for the week and call up another bat.
Mike Green - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 10:53 AM EDT (#201575) #
Ryan had decent control last year. I still think that he could contribute something, but the ideal thing for him is to be in a middle relief role or in the minors on a long rehab stint.  Last night's appearance in the high leverage role was brought about because Cito forgot to double switch (although I suppose that he might have preferred to have Ryan against Utley/Howard rather than Frasor). 
China fan - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 11:26 AM EDT (#201579) #
Ryan is already in a middle-relief role.  He can't really be demoted any lower in the existing bullpen.  But even a middle-relief guy is sometimes going to end up in a high-leverage situation, as happened yesterday.   If he's in the bullpen, you can't keep him forever out of high-leverage situations -- there are only 7 guys in the bullpen, not 20 guys.  At the moment, based on Cito's usage patterns, Ryan ranks near the bottom of the bullpen, but he is still putting the Jays into dangerous situations.  When Downs and Janssen come back, it's the perfect opportunity to demote Ryan to a place where he can work on his control.
rtcaino - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 11:29 AM EDT (#201580) #
Very disappointing speculation concerning McGowan. In sports, it's easy to be flippant about individuals careers - but with Dustin, I had followed him through the minors and saw his first ML start. I would be sincerly disappointed for him to end his career in this manner and hope that he can realize some of the potential he had shown. But TJ and Labrum surgery is not a recipe for success.

Does anybody know what happened with the set back that occured? I recall hearing that there was a set back, but do not know any specific information.


Today was my first time reading DJF - I was appreciative for the links, as I could not locate the AA on PTS audio through The Fan's website. But my goodness that is some colourful language in the comments section! I may have to post there sometime when I am particularly upset and require four letter words to sufficiently express my emotions!
Mike Green - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 11:36 AM EDT (#201581) #
Ryan's LI for the season is .98.  Camp's is .68.  Carlson's is 1.08.   By rearranging work patterns, Cito could get Ryan's LI down in Camp territory and Carlson's a little higher (but with shorter outings). 
ayjackson - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 11:53 AM EDT (#201582) #
I think Dustin's had TJ surgery and Rotator Cuff surgery.  I think they opted to leave the labrum alone when in his shoulder last year.  Can anyone corroborate this faint memory?
China fan - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 12:06 PM EDT (#201584) #
Ryan's LI for the season is heavily influenced by how he was used in high-leverage situations at the beginning of the season.  Presumably (although I haven't checked), Ryan's LI for the past 10 or 20 games would be a lot lower than his season average.
Magpie - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 12:12 PM EDT (#201586) #
McGowan's procedure was the other way around. The surgery last July was to repair fraying in the labrum - once they were in there looking around, they would see if his rotator cuff needed surgery as well. It didn't.

Not then, anyway. But MRIs in both 2007 and another in 2009 both indicated that McGowan had a slight tear in his rotator cuff, but not serious enough to require surgery.

"Well, kid. We're gonna give you an arm that can throw a baseball 95 miles an hour. And every time you try to do it, it's going to break down."

Fate, such a joker.
Ron - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 01:32 PM EDT (#201590) #
Pujols is once again putting together another MVP season (.334/.426/.627). His career OPS+ is 171. His career is far from over, but I don't think it's a stretch to say he's probably already one of the 10 greatest hitters of all-time. I can't believe this guy was drafted in the 13th round.
92-93 - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 01:54 PM EDT (#201592) #
"Last night's appearance in the high leverage role was brought about because Cito forgot to double switch"

He didn't forget, he just doesn't know how to execute it. I'm not sure what the Sportsnet broadcast showed, but the CSN guys showed Cito trying to talk to Merriwether AFTER he had got the ball from League. They went on to explain that you need to inform the umpire BEFORE you head out to the mound, and that Cito had committed a gigantic error. If you see Cito walking back to the dugout he sort of shrugs at Merriwether as if to say - you're right, my bad.
Ryan Day - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#201593) #
The thing I really love about Pujols this year: 23 home runs, only 25 strikeouts.
Chuck - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 02:10 PM EDT (#201594) #
Joe DiMaggio had 7 seasons with more homeruns than strikeouts and for his career was 361/369. His 1941 was particularly insane: 30 homeruns, 13 strikeouts. I think Ryan Howard struck out 13 times against the Jays in just 3 games.
Mike Green - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 02:32 PM EDT (#201595) #
DiMaggio achieved that playing in the old Yankee Stadium where it was none too easy for a right-handed hitter to go deep.  I wonder what he hit in Fenway over his career.  I guess we'll have to wait a few more years for retrosheet to make its way that far back.
Chuck - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 03:18 PM EDT (#201597) #
The DiMaggio/Williams what-if games were always popular. What if each played their home games in the other's park? What if neither went to war?
snider - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 03:23 PM EDT (#201598) #
what if the Jays still had Chris Carpenter...
Chuck - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 03:47 PM EDT (#201601) #
what if the Jays still had Chris Carpenter...

Then they'd have a guy who has averaged 110 innings a season since the Jays let him go.
lexomatic - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#201602) #
Hey Ron,
you can't believe Pujols was 13th round? I can't believe Piazza was drafted in the 62nd!!! round.
MatO - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 04:06 PM EDT (#201604) #
I PVR'd the game yesterday as well and it's true that Mills' fastball was pretty bad.  I'd say 87-88, sraight and poor control but he may have had the finest straight change I 've ever seen thrown by a Blue jay pitcher.  It was the only pitch he could throw consistently for strikes and the Phillies had some really bad swings at it.
Ryan Day - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 04:21 PM EDT (#201605) #
what if the Jays still had Chris Carpenter...

I imagine a lot of people would have been yelling at Ricciardi for re-signing a guy with a career 4.83 ERA and 1.5 WHIP who just had shoulder surgery. And then again in '07 for not trading an obviously injury-prone pitcher when he had the chance.
Magpie - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 04:51 PM EDT (#201606) #
The thing I really love about Pujols this year: 23 home runs, only 25 strikeouts.

He's an amazing hitter. But there are worse things than striking out. By the time he was 25 years old, Pujols had hit into more double plays than Mickey Mantle did in his career.
Mick Doherty - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 05:05 PM EDT (#201607) #

But there are worse things than striking out.

Here in Tejas, Chris Davis would like to see you sell that poster far and wide!

China fan - Friday, June 19 2009 @ 07:40 PM EDT (#201614) #

Cito and double-switches. A decade and half later and he still gets flummoxed by the concept.

This seems a little unfair, now that we have the full explanation of what happened in yesterday's game.  He wasn't flummoxed by the concept at all.  He knew exactly how to switch the players in the lineup, and he was in the process of making the right moves.  He just screwed up on an extremely technical point:  the procedure for informing the umpire.  The manager has to approach the umpire before going to the mound.  Cito made the simple mistake of going to the mound before informing the umpire.  It was a mental error, and he admitted it today.  To me, this seems like a mistake that anyone could make, in the heat of a game, especially when the rules are quite technical on this point.  To imply that Cito is a stupid man who is "flummoxed" by the basic strategy of doing a double-switch, even after 15 years -- that goes too far and is quite unfair to the guy.

Here is the full story on Cito's error:  http://mlbastian.mlblogs.com/

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