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Jeff Blair's back with a couple of columns.


It looks like the payroll will be around $90 million next year, which gives the Jays about $22 million to work with. With the Jays just having a few days left before their free agents are available to other teams it sounds like the Jays won't be re-signing any of them prior to the start of free agency. If that's the case I'll be shocked to see either Speier or Lilly back in a Blue Jay uniform. I expect Speier to end up with a contract in the 4 year, $20 million range and Lilly to be in the 5 year, $45 million range. I don't think the Jays would come close to matching either offer.

In Blair's blog he discusses the Wells situation. In the event that a trade becomes a necessity Blair suggested that you give the trading team a window to sign Wells to a long term deal. Makes sense - you're going to get more in return for a player in that scenario. For what it's worth Peter Gammons spectulated that Wells would be one player traded this offseason. I'm probably in the minority, but I don't like the Jays bringing Wells back for just next year. I think either an extension needs to be signed or a trade needs to be made. Getting a couple draft picks in the 2008 draft (outside of the top 15 picks) that will contribute starting in 2011 at the earliest doesn't do much for me. I don't think the Jays chances of making the playoffs with or without Wells is that dramatically different (this assumes that there's major league ready players coming back in return).

And if you want some more Blue Jay talk there's an article at SI.com looking at what the Jays can learn from the Cardinals, although I'm not sure there was an answer besides 'spend money wisely'. No kidding. But nevertheless, it's worth reading. Apparently the Jays are looking at Randy Wolf as a possibility (of course with the standard 'if the price is right' caveat).

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ayjackson - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 02:45 PM EST (#157590) #

I'm not convinced that Speier will leave.  I think he may take a fair offer from the Jays.  I think he likes it here and "appreciates" Gibbons.

I like the idea of signing Wolf, especially if it is one of two rehab starters they sign.

Finally, I'm with Pistol as far as Wells goes.  Extend or trade (provided the terms are reasonable).

Sister - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 03:26 PM EST (#157592) #
I'm curious if by saying "we need to add a pitcher and a bat", J.P. is referring to a pitcher in addition to Lilly. As I see it, if the Jays lose Lilly they need to add two starters not one. I can't handle another season of Towers and friends at the back end of the rotation given the potential injury concerns with Chacin. A 4 - 5 comprised of two of Towers, Jensen, Marcum has the potential to be a disaster.





Sister - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 03:31 PM EST (#157593) #
One more thing.

Given my above comment, this is why I believe that a trade involving Wells would offer some interesting alternative ways for the Jays to address team needs. Not that I want to trade Vernon, but if, as many have commented, the Jays could address SP (a servicable #3) and one (or both) of SS and/or C by trading Wells, new needs are created (OF) that would, most likley, be easier to fill in the free agent market. 

Jevant - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 04:01 PM EST (#157597) #

I know I'm in the very distinct minority on this, but I think the Jays absolutely need to make every effort to trade Wells immediately, as soon as possible.

If they can get a young number 3 starter and a young catcher that can play today, why would they not do it?  The money you would save would more than make up for Wells' loss of offence and defence, and you could retain Lilly AND still have money to add another bat or arm.

If JP can get Santana and Mathis for Wells, he needs to do it immediately.  Use the extra money to resign Lilly or another stablished SP (Padilla, Wolf, Meche, etc.).  Then you can either resign Cat and go with a Cat-Rios-Johnson (Lind 4th) OF, or add another cheaper OF bat.

I think the Jays are going to have to gamble that either some young hitting or some young pitching will come through.  And I'd always gamble on the young hitting (especially when considering the JP drafting regime). 

R Billie - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 04:06 PM EST (#157598) #

Sister, I agree.  If the plan is compete, we need to find a way to solidify the back of the rotation.  I don't think Towers, Janssen, Marcum, or McGowan should have spots on a team trying to beat the Yankees.  They should be your emergency depth.  What they need is another Chacin-like guy.  Looking at lower profile guys like Armas and Wolf for that 5th spot would be good.

Outside of one outing, McGowan been pretty solid in the AFL too.  It would be lovely if he could hold down a spot and perform at an above average level but that's not the type of thing you can rely on yet.

Mike D - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 04:09 PM EST (#157599) #

The money you would save would more than make up for Wells' loss of offence and defence

Jevant, I can't possibly see how this statement could be true.

Mike Green - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 04:16 PM EST (#157600) #
The NL teams which may have a surplus at shortstop include Milwaukee (Hardy/Hall) and Arizona (Drew/Callaspo).  I have no idea whether deals could be worked out, but I doubt that Vernon Wells would be part of the equation. You'd likely be looking at a more modest trade.
Ryan Day - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 04:24 PM EST (#157602) #

If they can get a young number 3 starter and a young catcher that can play today, why would they not do it?  The money you would save would more than make up for Wells' loss of offence and defence, and you could retain Lilly AND still have money to add another bat or arm.

 If you trade Vernon, all you're saving in 2007 is $5.6 million (or thereabouts) - not very much, in the big picture of things. Vernon Wells is the absolute best value the Jays can get for that money. Trading him for the sake of trading him doesn't accomplish anything.

 I'm not convinced Mathis is a quality Major League catcher in 2007, either: In his second year at AAA (in the PCL, even), he just hit 289/333/430. He's been all over the place: prior to that, he's had a couple good years at A-ball, a pretty bad one at AAA, and a decent one at AAA.

 I'm certainly no opposed to trading Wells, but I want more than a couple guys that might be okay. Maybe Ricciardi should settle for less at the all-star break, but not now; if the Angels want an All-Star centre fielder, they should be talking about the likes of Lackey, Wood, Kendrick or Morales. (Not all of them obviously)

fozzy - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 04:24 PM EST (#157603) #
I don't think Towers, Janssen, Marcum, or McGowan should have spots on a team trying to beat the Yankees.  They should be your emergency depth.  What they need is another Chacin-like guy.  Looking at lower profile guys like Armas and Wolf for that 5th spot would be good.

I bet dollars to donuts that at least 2 of Towers, Janssen, Marcum or McGowan will put up numbers equal to or far exceeding that of Armas or Wolf, both of whom, for some reason, will each make in excess alone what the already signed foursome the Jays have (to say nothing of the 25-man roster spots).

I just don't get how you can advocate having guys who are rehab reclamation projects (Wolf) or a poor-man's version of Shaun Marcum (Armas) signed "on a team trying to beat the Yankees," especially at the expense of other, better, cheaper options. Seems contradictory, to me at least.
GrrBear - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 04:56 PM EST (#157606) #
The NL teams which may have a surplus at shortstop include Milwaukee (Hardy/Hall) and Arizona (Drew/Callaspo).

Since it's unlikely that the Brewers would be nuts enough to give up Bill Hall, would J.J. Hardy represent an upgrade over Russ Adams?  I remember Hardy was a heralded prospect a couple of years ago, but before the ankle surgery in July, he wasn't exactly tearing up the National League.  I don't know much about his defensive abilities, though.  I'm sure J.P. would be looking for a more proven infielder, but perhaps Hardy might be a backup plan?

actionjackson - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 06:46 PM EST (#157609) #
I think it's going to take more than 2 teams to dance on a Vernon Wells trade. The Jays have stated they want pitching. The Rangers need a CF with Matthews now a free agent. Hell, they could use an outfielder period, with Carlos Lee and Mark DeRosa also declaring. The Tigers need a slugging 1B who can hit from the left side. What about Wells to Texas, Bonderman to Toronto, and the switch-hitting Teixeira to Detroit? Vernon goes home to star in CF, we get a terrific SP and Detroit gets a great fielding great hitting 1B. The con to this deal is that Texas and Detroit might just exclude Toronto and make it Bonderman for Teixeira. Let's call this the bare bones of the deal and say that it needs to be fleshed out i.e. Texas could use some pitching to make it worth their while to give up Teixeira. They already traded Soriano without getting any pitching for cryin' out loud. I'm not sure how to flesh it out, but I do like the bones.
js_magloire - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 09:37 PM EST (#157617) #
Vicente Padilla: The 29-year-old right-hander had a strong comeback season in Texas, but in the process may have priced himself out of the Rangers' future plans. Padilla, whose 15 wins were one shy of his total for 2004-05 in Philadelphia, is said to be seeking a deal in the four-year, $36 million range.
js_magloire - Tuesday, November 07 2006 @ 09:48 PM EST (#157618) #
I'd do it. Let's compare:

Pitcher A: 181.2 IP, 81 walks, 160 strikeouts, 28 homeruns, 4.31 ERA, 11 unearned Runs, park factor: 1.067 runs (7th)

Pitcher B: 200 IP, 70 walks, 156 strikeouts, 21 homeruns, 4.50 ERA, 8 unearned runs, park factor: 1.081 runs (5th)

If the Jays are willing to go to around $7 million for the inconsistent and perhaps injury prone Ted Lilly, pitcher A, then why not bend to get Pitcher B, Padilla. Padilla is 29 next season and Lilly 31. Padilla performed slightly better last year.



Jevant - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 08:41 AM EST (#157625) #

The reason that I'm wanting to save money on Wells is that long-term I don't see enough of a dropoff between Wells and Nameless Replacement OF, as I do between Marcum-McGowan-Janssen-etc. and Meche-Padilla-Lilly, etc.  If it's one or the other, you go with getting one of the SP's and replacing a corner OF bat (as those are in much greater supply). 

I really like the Lackey idea.  REALLY like the Lackey idea.  Wells for Lackey straight up in a heartbeat (although I'm not sure the Angels would do it).  Halladay-Burnett-Lackey-Meche or Lilly-Chacin?  I don't really care who's playing OF. 

Pitching wins championships, offense just sells tickets.  And a Rios-Glaus-Overbay middle of the order is hardly chumpchange anyways.

Jonny German - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 09:59 AM EST (#157628) #

Pitching wins championships

Did the Tigers and Cardinals not get the memo?

Matt S - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 12:00 PM EST (#157633) #

Don't know where else to post this, but...today (or maybe yesterday) Blair linked to a couple of articles on the "gyro-ball", and Matsuzaka's alleged use of it.  I found the idea of a new pitch being formulated and put into use pretty intriguing.  I'm surprised that I haven't heard of this before.  It sounds like it, if mastered, would be thrown with a football-like spiral and resemble a cross between an extreme changeup and an extreme slider.  Or something.  Apparently there's some real science behind it.  But just from reading the two aricles, it seems like there's some skepticism as to whether it's all that special or if a version of it that is very special could ever be mastered.  Does anyone know anything more about this?   As I said, it's intriguing, even if there may be more romance to it than reality.

greenfrog - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 12:06 PM EST (#157634) #
I'm not saying Lilly or Meche (or Padilla, Armas Jr. or Wolf) is the answer, especially in the current market. I'm saying that recreating last year's rotation (minus Lilly, in all likelihood) probably isn't going to get us into the playoffs. Unless one or two of our young starters takes a quantum leap ahead.

McGowan is a candidate to step up, and he's had a few nice starts in Arizona, but his performance over the last two years (7.24 ERA last year; 6.35 ERA the previous year) makes him a real question mark. Last year he looked like a thrower, not a pitcher.

The Jays would be overjoyed if Towers even remotely resembled Suppan or Padilla. He basically pitched batting practice to the opposition for most of 2006 (his OPS against was .973. That's like facing Alex Rodriguez every time up).


Ryan Day - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 12:29 PM EST (#157635) #

I'm saying that recreating last year's rotation (minus Lilly, in all likelihood) probably isn't going to get us into the playoffs. Unless one or two of our young starters takes a quantum leap ahead.

  It might, actually. Last year's rotation had freakishly bad luck - Burnett and Chacin both missed half the season and Towers completely lost it. You're not making the playoffs if 3/5 of your starting rotation is wiped out by May  unless you've got absolutely spectacular depth in the minors.

  Obviously you can't count on everyone being healthy, but I'd bet on a full season from at least one of Burnett or Chacin, and I don't think the Jays will be hard-pressed to find someone who won't suck as much as Towers did. On top of that, potential fill-ins like McGowan, Marcum, Rosario, or Janssen are more likely to be ready for action. I don't want more than one of them in the rotation in April, but it won't be as bad as last year if there are injuries.

Jevant - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 01:08 PM EST (#157636) #

I'm sorry, but you've lost me here. 

The Tigers got fantastic pitching throughout the playoffs, until the WS.  Then they fell apart.

The Cards got good pitching through the playoffs, and then fantastic pitching in the WS.

Not sure what your point was, exactly.  Care to explain?

Amarsh - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 02:10 PM EST (#157638) #
Ken Rosenthal has an article up on Foxsports (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6149242) about Jason Jennings, and why the Rockies should trade him for some outfield help.

I think I guy who posts a 3.78 ERA at Coors field, with over 200 innings, and is only 28, might be a nice fit in a Vernon Wells trade.  Plus, it would keep Wells out of the AL, thus preventing him from coming home and tearing it up at the Rogers Center for an opposing team.

Dr. Phil - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 02:13 PM EST (#157639) #

Sorry, but I don't know where to post this, but since it seems quiet hopefully you can forgive this potential hijack.

Is there anyone else out there that is worried about our catching situation.  What if both Zaun and Molina sign elsewhere.  Does that leave us with Phillips and Thigpen?  I personally think that our catcher situation is just as important as any of the other off season moves, as Wells isn't that urgent, he'll either play for us or get traded, Pitching we would have the same as last year, depending on Lilly coming back, or other Free Agent signing similar to him, John MacDonald and Russ Adams could split SS for the year and can't be any worse than this year (at least I hope not) but is it just me or is catcher not pretty important and if neither return, we definitely need to sign someone.

Jonny German - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 02:35 PM EST (#157640) #

Not sure what your point was, exactly. 

The Tigers had fantastic pitching. Best in the better league. The Cardinals had mediocre pitching, 9th in the lesser league and with some key members injured and unavailable for the playoffs. The Cardinals won the championship.

 

Sister - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 02:44 PM EST (#157641) #
As much as I like Jason Jennings, I'd be thoroughly depressed if that was all we could get for Vernon Wells.

I'd much prefer to partake in a younger starter with more time on the clock (Jennings will be a free agent next year) and also nab a player in an area of need (SS or Catcher), neither of which Colorado has much that is appealing that we could get in return (i.e. Troy Tulowitzki ).
SK in NJ - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 02:46 PM EST (#157642) #

I think it's a major risk to spend a significant amount of money on fringy pitchers purely based on name value. Tony Armas is a bigger name than Shaun Marcum or Casey Janssen, but that doesn't mean Armas is a better pitcher or a better bet for 2007 and beyond.

Look at a guy like Gil Meche. He's injury prone and inconsistent. His ERA's away from Safeco from 2003-2006 have been 5.71, 5.79, 5.17, and 5.14 respectively. He's not a dependable innings guy from year to year. Yet, he's going to command $6-7 million a season over a multi-year contract. Is that really worth it?

It's simply a case of spending up to $8 million for "established" league average performance, or hoping for that same performance from an in-house starter making the minimum. Either way, we're dealing with "league average", and really nothing greater than that. I'd just as soon pay through the nose for Jason Schmidt and take my chances. At least if he's healthy he's a top of the rotation starter, and not someone we have to pray will be as good as Lilly was last year.

Mike Green - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 02:53 PM EST (#157644) #
I wonder what the market for Greg Maddux will be, and where he would like to pitch.  He signed for $8 million/year 3 years ago.  He's now 40, but the market is up.  There is no reason to believe that he cannot deliver 1 more year of league average pitching, or a little better. 
VBF - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 02:59 PM EST (#157646) #

League average pitching from starters 4 and 5 last year would have at least given us meaningful September games. League average pitching from starters 4 and 5 should get us at least that close this year.

It may not be ideal to pay 16 million dollars for two league average pitchers, but if it's between that and hoping Chacin and Marcum give your league average pitching, I'm not sold at all.

This isn't like the late 90s, where they were overpaying for mediocre players to pretend to be stars, this team has their stars, but the supporting cast is missing. If it means playoffs, overpaying for a supporting cast is alright by me. And you're not just getting the supporting cast, you're getting a fair amount of depth. If the Jays can start the season with Shaun Marcum 6th on the depth chart for starting pitching, they will do well.

"League Average Pitching" seems like a nasty phrase, but that's exactly what the team needed last year.

 

MatO - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 03:16 PM EST (#157647) #

Not sure what your point was, exactly.  Care to explain?

Was it great Cardinal pitching or lousy Tiger hitting?  It's no great revelation that pitching AND hitting win championships.

Jonny German - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 03:21 PM EST (#157648) #

I wonder what the market for Greg Maddux will be, and where he would like to pitch.

I'd be up for a reunion of Maddux & Glavine in Toronto - now that'd be a brave maneuvre.

Seriously though, I think those two will be two of the better signings this offseason, assuming they don't get more than 2 years gauranteed.

Like others in this thread, I'm starting to lean towards not signing a direct Lilly replacement. The dollars may well be better spent on Lugo, given that it looks like the pitching market will shape up to make A.J. Burnett's contract look like a bargain.

Mike Green - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 03:43 PM EST (#157651) #
Jesse's son to Cleveland for Kevin Kouzamanoff (and Andrew Brown).
SK in NJ - Wednesday, November 08 2006 @ 04:01 PM EST (#157653) #

"League Average Pitching" seems like a nasty phrase, but that's exactly what the team needed last year.

I didn't mean to imply that league average was bad, just that I don't think it's worth $7-9 million a year when it's likely the best case scenario for most of the 2nd tier starters on the market.

Here are the ERA+ figures for some of the more notable 2nd tier starting pitchers on the free agent market (2003, 2004, 2005, 2006):

Lilly: 98, 120, 80, 109 
Padilla: 114, 96, 96, 104
Meche: 97, 86, 85, 97
Armas: 190 (31 IP), 85, 80, 88
Eaton: 97, 87, 90, 92
Batista: 132, 101, 109, 104
Marquis: 75, 113, 103, 73
Suppan: 105, 100, 120, 107
Redman: 112, 99, 87, 85
Wolf: 97, 102, 103, 83

Most of those pitchers aren't even good enough to be called league average, at least not on a consistent basis. The most consistently average or better pitchers on that list are Jeff Suppan and our old friend Miguel Batista. The rest are up and down. All of those pitchers project to make anywhere from $5-9 million per season, and that might be generous given the amount of money teams have and the premium placed on pitching. I'd guess one of Marcum, Janssen, or McGowan (or even Towers if he's back to at least the 5.00 ERA form he was pre-2006) could out-pitch half of that list next season. Of course, that's a major risk because we simply don't know which young pitcher (if any) WILL contribute league average production next year, whereas it's less of a risk with an established pitcher.

Dave Bush....we need you, big guy.

Marc Hulet - Thursday, November 09 2006 @ 09:04 AM EST (#157675) #
Actually BA says Callaspo has all the tools to be an above-average shortstop, he just spent a lot of time at second base so the Angels could keep Aybar and Callaspo playing together. Once he went to the DBacks I believe he played second because of Drew but immediately slid to SS when Drew was promoted.



R Billie - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 12:57 AM EST (#157721) #

I don't think Aurillia's much of a shortstop anymore with either the glove or the bat.  If you're going to play him there you might as well play Hill there and try to get a second baseman.  At least you know Hill has upside with the bat and is better with the glove.

And you can probably find a better 2B than Aurillia is a SS.

King Ryan - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 01:13 AM EST (#157723) #
relievers are infamous for being variable season to season

This is actually why I advocate keeping Speier!

Relievers' performance fluctuate so much year-to-year that having one who is consistently good (like Speier) is very valuable.  Simply assuming that League will be as effective as he was last season is foolish in my opinion. 
Mick Doherty - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 10:01 AM EST (#157727) #

If you're going to play [Aurliia at short] you might as well play Hill there and try to get a second baseman.

Like Aurilia? Since leaving Seattle in 2004, Aurilia has played more games at 2B than at SS, so it's not out of the question that'd work.

Jonny German - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 10:26 AM EST (#157729) #
Speier=middle reliever, replacable by League and relievers are infamous for being variable season to season
 
The variability of most middle relievers is exactly why Speier is going to get a fat contract. He's been a good-to-great reliever for 7 consecutive seasons. I do agree that League likely has what it takes to replace him, and that the Jays have enough potentially good bullpen arms to fill out a solid pen behind League & Ryan. The trick will be figuring out who those other arms are for 2007.
Chuck - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 11:05 AM EST (#157731) #
Is no one else concerned about Aurilia's late career surge? After three pretty crappy years, he looked like he was done. Then he had a good 2005 and a great 2006 (his road OPS was 830 so his numbers weren't a Cincinnati illusion).

He'll be 35/36 next season. What's he likely to do? Who would be shocked by a return to pumpkindom?

Even a return to his 2005 level (338/444) would look good at 2B for the Jays next season, but I'm a bigger fan of keeping Hill at 2B and finding a shortstop. I presume that Lugo will end up in Boston and that the Jays can get the Red Sox's sloppy seconds, Gonzalez, for a reasonable price (unless the folks who produce the Toronto media guides carry too much lobbying weight, and they veto any decision to bring a second Alex Gonzalez to the team -- the administrative horror!).

Marc Hulet - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 12:33 PM EST (#157735) #
If you're liking Gonzalez, you might as well stick with John McDonald at short, who is just as good defensively and will save you $3 or $4 million per year (not that I advocate either option).

Gonzalez career AVG. OBP. SLG.  .246  .292  .392
McDonald career AVG. OBP. SLG. .236  .279  .311

Other than slugging, it's about the same.

My feeling is with the veterans on the field, the Jays can afford one rookie and they should explore a MLB-ready SS prospect. I hate the idea of paying Lugo $8 million. It's about $2-$3 million too much. Save the cash for pitching.
Chuck - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 01:32 PM EST (#157738) #
I'm certainly not a huge fan of Gonzalez, whose 300/400 profile looks a lot like his namesake's, but I would argue that his defense is superior to MacDonald's (there was gold glove talk, for what that's worth) and my gut tells me that $3-4M is worth it for the 100+ point bump in OPS, keeping Hill at 2B and stabilizing the middle infield.

Subjectively, MacDonald looked to be overtaxed playing every day. His defense took a hit (14 errors in the equivalent of about 75 games at SS) and his bat, well, let's not even go there.

I'm not sure what MLB-ready SS prospects you believe are out there. I'm not saying they don't exist, I just don't know who they are.

Mike Green - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 01:40 PM EST (#157739) #
Fun fact: the most similar player to Alex Gonzalez according to BBRef is Alex S. Gonzalez.  With appropriate park adjustments, the offensive difference between Gonzalez and Julio Lugo is about equivalent to the difference between John McDonald and Gonzalez. It is very significant. A crude measure would have McDonald with a career OPS+ of 56, Gonzalez at 78 and Lugo at 92.  Here is the 2006 Win Share analysis.
js_magloire - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 02:26 PM EST (#157740) #
New Blair is up.

Jays are looking at 2b more so. If they go shorstop, its Alex Gonzalez and not Julio Lugo. Seems intelligent enough to me.

js_magloire - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 02:30 PM EST (#157741) #
Well there's more. Basically, the Jays will look at Ronnie Belliard, Ray Durham, Mark Loretta and Adam Kennedy.

And they are interested in Randy Wolf.

Marc Hulet - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 03:59 PM EST (#157748) #
An interesting move by Detroit with Ordonez already in right field.

The Yanks are getting a couple very nice pitchers, including Kevin Whelan, whom I really, really like. Humberto Sanchez is nice too, if healthy.
Chuck - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 04:09 PM EST (#157749) #
The Tigers were already overly right-handed to begin with. This doesn't help. Someone like Drew in the middle of the order, breaking up all the RHB, would have made more sense.
Hodgie - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 04:19 PM EST (#157750) #
Sorry if this is misplaced, but does anyone know why McGowan missed his last start for Phoenix?
R Billie - Friday, November 10 2006 @ 05:15 PM EST (#157756) #
I think the Jays felt he had pitched enough for the year and a lot of high stress innings as well.  Once he pitched a few good games in a row in the AFL they were satisfied and shut him down until the spring.
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