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So what became of the $210 million payroll allocated to 2005-2007?

From a couple days ago in the Globe and Mail a breakout of the math was given:

It had been thought that the Blue Jays would have around $90 million to spend in 2007 because payroll figures of $48 million in 2005 and $72 million this year.  But for accounting purposes the figures work out differently.

"Even I got confused and I know something about finances," team president Paul Godfrey said.

For lack of a spread sheet, several pie charts and an accountant, Godfrey says the easiest way to break down the club's spending over the three years is $52.5 million last year, $75 million this year and next plus a written off $7.5-million payment to the Milwaukee Brewers to help cover Corey Koskie's contract.

Well, guess what?  I do have a spreadsheet.

Like the article mentions the Jays were around $48 million in 2005, but I'm willing to call that $52.5 million for the sake of argument.  Heading into this year it was repeated said that the payroll would be $75 million at most.  The Jays started the year at approximately $72.5 million (including $3.25 million to Milwaukee in the Koskie trade).  Trading Shea Hillenbrand shaved off $2 million from that amount.  With injuries the Jays may have paid a bit more in salaries than that (because if a player is on the DL he's making major league money and so is the player called up to replace him such as Mottola, Figueroa, Taubenheim, etc.).  So take off Hillenbrand's $2 million and add in another $0.5 million to cover that.  That takes you to $71.0 million.

So when you do the math you come up with:

2005 - $52.5 million
2006 - $71.0 million
2007 - $86.5 million
Tot  - $210.0 million

So where did that $11.5 million go if the payroll for 2007 is $75 million?  I believe it's a bookkeeping issue.  (Fun tangent - I believe bookkeeping is the only word that has three consecutive pairs of the same letters).  It appears the Jays are keeping two sets of books - the cash books and the accounting books.

When Burnett and Ryan were signed they were both given bonuses.  From an accounting standpoint, and how the team has been reporting it in their payroll, the bonuses are spread over the life of the contract.  But the actual cash is paid when the players signed (hence, signing bonus).  Burnett's contract this year is for $1.0 million and Ryan's is for $2.0 million.  Each got a $6 million signing bonus this year, so $1.2 million (one-fifth of $6 million) of that amount goes on the accounting books and what the Jays have been stating as their payroll.  So the books show Burnett for $2.2 million this season and Ryan $3.2 million - a total of $5.4 million.  However, the actual cash that was paid to these two players this season was their combined $3 million salary and $12 million bonus - a total of $15 million.

And that's where the difference I believe comes into play:

             Accounting              Cash
2005 - $52.5 million           $52.5 million
2006 - $71.0 million           $80.5 million
2007 - $86.5 million           $77.0 million
Tot  -  $210.0 million         $210.0 million

So if you take the stated $75 million payroll for next year, plus the $2 million saved with the Hillenbrand trade you get to $77 million.

Right now the Jays have $62.6 million of cash committed to Halladay, Burnett, Ryan, Towers, Glaus, Wells, Hinske, and Molina's buyout.  On the accounting side the total is $63.0 million (Ryan's $4 million 2007 bonus offsets the amortized bonus of Ryan and Burnett so the two numbers are pretty similar in 2007).

Overbay, Rios, and Johnson are all due raises for next year so that will take it up to at least $70 million giving the Jays about $5-7 million to fill out the rest of the roster, assuming that the $75-$77 million is a concrete payroll.  And the Jays will need to find at least a starting pitcher, catcher, and shortstop.  This is why it's assumed that Lilly and Speier, among others won't be re-signed.

I assumed that the three year payroll commitment would be a rolling payroll commitment.  That is, each year prior to the offseason the Jays would budget what they project their payroll to be for the next three years. It would make sense that a well run national company would operate this way.  How can you sign players to long term contracts if you don't know what your payroll will be down the road?  And the way the Jays acted this offseason they appeared to be operating under the assumption that the payroll next year, and beyond, would be, at least, in the $85 million range.  It doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise to pay 6 players around $55 million if you're only going to have another $20-23 million for the rest of the team.

So I think either:  A.  What's being said publicly is lower than what the actual plans are.  B.  The Jays were misled by Rogers on what the payroll would be going forward past this season and/or there's poor long term planning.  C. The Jays were very shortsighted with their moves this offseason adding three $10 million players to long term contracts when they knew payroll in 2007 would be tight.  D.  A combination of A, B, or C.

Jeff Blair's latest article raised some concerns about the future:

The back story is a growing concern in the administrative ranks about whether Blue Jays owner Ted Rogers is ready to roll out an extension of his three-year, $210-million (all figures U.S.) commitment beyond next season. More important, the concern focuses on the timing of any announcement, since the last time out, Rogers didn't make the announcement until after the free-agent crop was well picked over and Carlos Delgado had been lost for nothing.

I'm not quite sure what to make of all of this.  But certainly it can't hurt for Rogers Communications to have a big quarter that was much higher than analysts predicted.

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Geoff - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 01:12 PM EDT (#152144) #
I find it interesting that it's said "Ted Lilly, Frank Catalanotto, Justin Speier and Scott Schoeneweis will be allowed to leave as free agents."

So I presume Gregg Zaun will not be allowed to leave?
Mike Green - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 01:20 PM EDT (#152145) #
"Allowed to leave" makes Rogers Centre sound like Gitmo, but we get the idea.  Presumably, if the article is accurate and the Jays do end up with a payroll of $75-$77 million for 2007, they will still need two catchers and Zaun may or may not be willing to accept a contract within their payroll constraints.  

Blech, I don't even want to be thinking about this on August 1 with the Jays 6 game out and starting a series in Yankee Stadium. Play ball.
Mike Forbes - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 01:38 PM EDT (#152146) #
I don't know if i'm the only one who feels this way... But, I feel ripped off by Rogers and the Jays twisting of the truth on this matter.
VBF - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 01:41 PM EDT (#152147) #

Unless Rogers announces a new extension, one that would leave the Jays more than 75 million to spend per season, the Jays likely won't be able to field a better team next year. Unless McGowan can pull an Alex Rios.

So what is the benefit to Rogers of keeping payroll at 75 million or less in the future? There will be short-term profits as attendance has been on an upwards pace for six consecutive years, but at some pont the inferiority of the team will hit the ticket offices hard, perhaps harder than the year 2000. So that said, unless Rogers has plans to sell the team (unfathomable) and collect their peanut-equivalent profits they have got to increase payroll next year and beyond. I doubt they'd consider selling, especially after the commitments to renovating the stadium to what will become the host stadium of the 20xx All-Star Game.

Two years ago, a 75 million dollar payroll would be above average. Today, it falls short of the MLB average payroll. Unless there's a producing farm system, the cost of living for teams has risen significantly. Hopefully Godfrey can convince Ted of this though he might say "Well, what happened to that 25 million dollar increase we gave you last year?".

 

js_magloire - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 01:45 PM EDT (#152148) #
I kind of assumed that Rogers would be putting more money into the Jays because of the way Riccardi signed all those players, and the way Riccardi and Godfrey talked about the money, as if, if they really needed some more Rogers would pan out. Don't forget that Rogers has also been putting money into buying the stadium, which is almost totally renovated now. And he's making more, so I'm hoping he gives something like 80-85 for each year from 2008-2010.

I think this article settles the debate about whether or not the Jays can afford to sign Wells, unless Uncle Ted gives the 80-85 that I think the Blue Jays deserve now. That would be 240-255 over 3 years.

No offence, but it also makes the signings of BJ Ryan (a closer for max money), and AJ more dubious.

js_magloire - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 01:51 PM EDT (#152151) #
Other factors include a stronger canadian dollar.

And another point on next year's payroll. Riccardi is going to have to penny-pinch to the MAX if he wants to fill out holes on the roster while keeping within budget, such as using Hinske to take Catalanatto's spot. THe only free agent I can see staying is Zaun, who would make a fine combo with Phillips.

Hill will have to learn SS down pat this year, and the gaggle of young pitchers will form the bullpen. Chacin has to not need TJ this year so he won't miss next, etc...

It is ironic that Riccardi will have to penny pinch so much, where this year he was SO the opposite, throwing around $5 mil for Molina, and eating so much of Koskie's contract, as well as not non-tendering Hillenbrand's contract and instead making Koskie or whoever else DH.

John Northey - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 02:02 PM EDT (#152153) #
Got to love the craziness of optics.  The Jays are trying to do a 'poor me' bit now I suspect to put some pressure onto the players union (as are other teams I suspect).  Remember, the colletive agreement is done after this season.  Thus, it is in all teams best interests to be saying they are tight on cash and payroll is maxed out.  Then to emphasis it have the team that made the biggest splash last winter be trapped in 3rd place (not planned, but working out) thus putting more strength on the owners trying to put in place a harder luxury tax/salary cap/whatever.  The Yankees helped out their fellow owners this week by taking on another big contract, thus making it so players on the rest of the AL teams will be saying 'something has to be done about them so we can win too'. 

I see it all leading to at least one of two things this winter - either expanded playoffs (12-16 teams) which is always a nice cash cow for owners [needed so teams outside NY & Boston have hope in the AL East and Wildcard is the argument]  and/or a luxury tax that is set with stronger penalties and lower limits (ie: start at $100 million with, say, a 10% fee, almost a hard cap at $150 million (50-100% of payroll above that), insane at $200 million (100-200% of amount above that).

The Jays have a high enough value to Rogers (via tv as well as attendance) to justify a $100 million payroll imo.  If they are winning the ratings have been shown to go sky high which leads to more advertising revenue (on both Jays games and sports newscasts) and more subscribers - both areas Rogers instantly makes more off of.  Attendance can and will grow if they become like they were in the mid-late 80's/early 90's, consistently near 1st place all season (we haven't seen this since '93 thus the sub-20k sometimes showing up today).

Just watch - once the new collective agreement is in place the Jays will suddenly have more cash and will say all the right things about it (Bud did a great job making it more competitive, revenue sharing will continue to help us, blah blah blah).  Lets hope it is in time to allow the team to keep Zaun, Cat, and maybe to add another pitcher.

Ron - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 02:15 PM EDT (#152154) #
I'm glad to see this subject get it's own headlining post. I mentioned the Jays payroll would only be around 75 million next season plus the savings on Hillenbrands contract. I thought this was a big story but it generated little discussion here.

I trust Blair's information so I'm disappointed to hear the Jays will let the Cat walk. He strikes me as somebody that is currently under-valued and will be under-valued in the markertplace much like Trot Nixon. Needless to say the Jays don't have a lot of cash to spend this off-season. They may be forced to put Marcum and McGowan in the starting rotation even if they're not ready because of budget constraints. This is not optimal for a team that has said to its fans is all about winning going foward.

Perhaps the biggest news in the off-season won't be a FA signing but what the next year 3 year rolling budget is (if there is one). If Rogers wants to stay at the 3yr/210 million level, the Jays have no choice but to shop around Wells. Wells for Santana, Aybar, and Mathis makes sense on a lot of levels.

I'm not thrilled the Jays had to pick up part of Koskie's contract this season. I'm not thrilled Josh Towers will most likely be paid over 2.7 million to pitch in the minors next season.

The Jays put all their eggs in the basket this pass off-season by signing Ryan and Burnett to big money long term deals. Also the trade to get Glaus and extending Towers.

The Jays are going to be really exposed next season because of their weak farm system. When JP became the GM, he said his mandate was to slash payroll and build up the barren farm system. He did slash payroll but did he really improve the farm system? The inability of the current regime to draft high impact/sign high impact rookies is hurting the Jays. The Jays usually draft higher than the Yanks and Red Sox yet those clubs are able to produce players like Papelbon, Hansen, Lester, Wang, etc....

Anybody want a mulligan on the AJ Burnett contract or JP contract extension?

VBF - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 02:24 PM EDT (#152155) #

Hill will have to learn SS down pat this year, and the gaggle of young pitchers will form the bullpen. Chacin has to not need TJ this year so he won't miss next, etc...

Lyle Overbay's going to have to cut down on the European Haircuts too. And Ham night will now be Spam Night.

jjdynomite - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 02:37 PM EDT (#152156) #
I agree with Ron about JP's dubious draft success.  Since his hiring in November 2001 he has been in charge of 5 drafts.  Although the 2005-6 drafts are too soon to tell, the only everyday player that has come out of those drafts has been Hill.  Hinske grew up in the A's system, and Rios, Vernon, Doc, et al, were all Ash products.

Outside of the 'Box, it seems that only Griffin has been critical of JP's lack of draft success.  Watching homegrown players on other teams, from Wang to Lester to Street, succeed while pitcher after pitcher for the Jays have struck (themselves) out, is hard to take.  The closest team in terms of current payroll is the Orioles (who are up by $600,000) so I guess it's impressive that the Jays are 10 games up on them.  Does this, however, make the Jays overachievers, given their payroll vis-a-vis inter-divisional competition?
Bruce Wrigley - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 02:41 PM EDT (#152157) #

"Allowed to leave" makes Rogers Centre sound like Gitmo

Come back from this roadtrip 3-7 or 2-8 and it might be worse.  July didn't exactly work out as we all hoped, did it?

Pistol - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 03:29 PM EDT (#152164) #

Got to love the craziness of optics.  The Jays are trying to do a 'poor me' bit now I suspect to put some pressure onto the players union (as are other teams I suspect).  Remember, the colletive agreement is done after this season.  Thus, it is in all teams best interests to be saying they are tight on cash and payroll is maxed out.

Good point.  I hadn't thought of that. 

Prior to the season the Jays had some concerns representing their payroll - this is when we first heard about amortizing the bonuses.  So while the Jays are over $80 million or so paid this year in cash they're only representing them on the books for about $70 million. 

Now, there's nothing wrong with this except that the $210 budget that was in play 3 years ago is the cash budget and the payroll that they quote is the accounting budget.  And because of that there appears to be less money going towards salaries than previously expected.

Revenues should be up with the new TV contract, increasing internet & satellite revenues and increased attendance & stadium revenues so one would assume the payroll would get a proportional increase as well.  I think there's something else going on here, and it may very well be CBA posturing.  If the Jays payroll is $75 million next year I'll be surprised, but right now that's the Company line.

CeeBee - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 08:05 PM EDT (#152184) #

"I hope you're joking.

Nobody in their right mind can say with a straight face that Gord Ash's draft record isn't much better than JP's."

How can you evaluate someones drafting record while he's still drafting players for the Jays and Gord Ash has former draft picks still considered prospects after 4 or 5 years? I'm not saying JP has done a good job or a bad job but to be fair one would have to wait at least five years after his last draft to really make that statement. Of course if he's the GM for 15 or 20 years one could project a little sooner but considering Travis Snider is 18 and probably 3-4 years away I think it's rather early to be comparing drafting success or failure.

Gerry - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 10:24 PM EDT (#152191) #
  1. Good analysis Pistol.  You can buy things (players) on the deferred purchase plan if you want but you will eventually have to pay the piper.  AJ and BJ's deferred contracts just move the payroll problem to 2007 and beyond.
  2. We can now see why JP did not want to deal any of his young pitchers, he needs as many minimum wage players as he can find next season
  3. The large amount of payroll already committed for 2007 does not mean Wells cannot be signed, it means that either Wells cannot be signed or one of the other big contracts will have to be traded.  Of course with Reed Johnson, Alex Rios and presumably Adam Lind the Jays will have cheaper alternatives for the outfield.  A question for the end of the season would be which big salary player would you deal to re-sign Vernon to a new contract?
  4. I believe JP's signing of the big contracts assumed that two of McGowan, Purcey, Janssen, Marcum, Banks, League and Rosario would develop into dependable starting pitchers.  As of today none of them have.  The Jays need some pitchers to progress or JP will be back to square one, trading a big contract claiming it is too big.
  5. JP and Rogers could also have been banking on the "if you build it they will come" philosophy assuming that higher attendance would lead to higher payrolls in 2007 and beyond.  Attendance is up, but maybe not as much as the franchise hoped.  Could that have put the brakes on the payroll increase?
Named For Hank - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 10:30 PM EDT (#152192) #
If someone were so inclined, there must be a way to chart and compare the drafts of Ash and Ricciardi X number of years on -- first year, second year, etc etc.  Then you could at least compare how many panned out in the first five years of each tenure.

But I agree that if you want to count, say, Rios as a success, you'll have to wait a little while longer before declaring many of Ricciardi's draftees failures.

timpinder - Tuesday, August 01 2006 @ 11:54 PM EDT (#152199) #

Gerry,

You commented that Adam Lind could be a cheap alternative in the outfield next year.  Will Lind be ready for 2007?  If so, I've read that he's more suited to DH duties as his defense isn't very strong.  I've never seen him play, can you shed some light on that?  If he could take over in LF that would allow the Jays to trade Wells for a young SP and perhaps also a young SS, C or DH.  It would also free up over $5.5 million more in payroll.

How far away is Thigpen?  They'll need another C next year as well. 

I think you're right that one or two of the young starting pitchers needs to develop.  Based on their 2006 performances I believe that Rosario might actually be the most likely to breakout in 2007.  He was solid as a starter before his promotion to the Jays bullpen, and so far he's been solid as a starter since being sent back to Syracuse.  Before TJ surgery he was dominant.  McGowan's stuff is great and he may yet learn control and be an ace, but I just don't see that happening before next year.

 

Gerry - Wednesday, August 02 2006 @ 10:22 AM EDT (#152214) #

My scouting report on Adam Lind's defense?  Think Frank Catalanotto, but a little slower.  What you lose in defense you make up in power. 

Lind might be ready for next season, he has started well in AAA and I assume he will get a September look-see so the Jays can determine how close he is.

Mike Green - Wednesday, August 02 2006 @ 10:38 AM EDT (#152217) #
Lind is probably capable of hitting .280/.330/.480 now.  Combined with his defence, it's a half-step down from Catalanotto right now, but he's only 23. If one was trying to give it a full shot at winning in 2007, Lind would ideally get a half-season or so in Syracuse to show that he can maintain the power while improving his strike zone control.  He has shown both attributes at various minor league stops, but not at the same time. 
Chuck - Wednesday, August 02 2006 @ 10:57 AM EDT (#152221) #
If he can stay hot a whole season I can see him racing others for a batting title. I'm not sure about the power though.

How far-fetched is this comp: Aaron Hill and Kirby Puckett?
  • similar body types: short and squat (though Puckett was shorter and squatter)
  • right-handed
  • decent speed
  • good contact hitters
  • no homerun power early in career
Puckett developed decent homerun power (for a player at a key defensive position), vaulting from 0 and 4 at ages 23 and 24, to 31 at age 25 (Bob Costas reneged on his offer to name his first child Kirby if Puckett were to hit 30, but he did use it as a middle name). This type of development may not exactly be the norm, so I'm not suggesting that Hill can similarly evolve. He has just 5 homeruns in 700+ AB's at ages 23 and 24.

Further, as a second baseman, Hill will be subject to all the woes inherent therein, namely the threat of injury and seeming dampening effect the position has on a player's development as a hitter.
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 02 2006 @ 11:24 AM EDT (#152225) #
Puckett had more speed and much less command of the strike zone than Hil at the same age, but he was a centerfielder. Charlie Gehringer's career started out very similarly to Hill's if you want the optimistic comp.
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