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The Jays were 9-9 in interleague play. The rest of the AL did much better.


Game Result: Phillies 11, Jays 6. The Jays winning streak is stopped at 5.

Star of the Game: Bobby Abreu - 3-5 with 4 RBIs. He's good.

Unsung Hero: John McDonald whose hustle allowed him to go from 1st to 3rd on a single to left and score on a shallow fly ball after an entertaining sequence at the plate.

Boxscore: If you insist

Elsewhere: The Red Sox win again. The Jays sit 5 games back.

All Stars: Here are the rosters. Halladay, Ryan, Glaus, Wells and Rios will represent the Jays in Pittsburgh.  Rios will miss the game due to his injury.

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Now that interleague play has ended what can we conclude? The NL isn't that good. They got hammered in interleague play, it's been awhile since they won an All Star Game, and they've lost the last 8 World Series games.  What else can we find out?

Let's go to the Data Tables! (Magpie would be so proud)

The AL standings today look like this:

Team W L PCT
Detroit 56 26 0.683
Chicago 53 28 0.654
Boston 50 29 0.633
New York 46 33 0.582
Toronto 46 35 0.568
Minnesota 45 35 0.563
Oakland 42 39 0.519
Seattle 42 41 0.506
Texas 41 41 0.500
Cleveland 37 43 0.463
Baltimore 38 45 0.458
Los Angeles 37 44 0.457
Tampa Bay 35 47 0.427
Kansas City 27 53 0.338

But if we only included AL games against AL teams it would look like this:

Team AL W AL L AL%
Detroit 41 23 0.641
Chicago 39 24 0.619
New York 36 25 0.590
Toronto 37 26 0.587
Boston 34 27 0.557
Oakland 34 29 0.540
Texas 34 30 0.531
Los Angeles 30 33 0.476
Minnesota 29 33 0.468
Cleveland 29 33 0.468
Baltimore 29 36 0.446
Seattle 28 37 0.431
Tampa Bay 24 40 0.375
Kansas City 17 45 0.274

That's right, the Jays would be 2 games ahead of the Red Sox and essentially tied with the Yankees.

Here's how the AL fared in interleague played:

Team IW IL I%
Boston 16 2 0.889
Minnesota 16 2 0.889
Detroit 15 3 0.833
Chicago 14 4 0.778
Seattle 14 4 0.778
Tampa Bay 11 7 0.611
New York 10 8 0.556
Kansas City 10 8 0.556
Toronto 9 9 0.500
Baltimore 9 9 0.500
Oakland 8 10 0.444
Cleveland 8 10 0.444
Texas 7 11 0.389
Los Angeles 7 11

0.389

A few things jump out:

* The AL's record was 154-98.  This winning percentage works out to a 99 win team . Which means that the NL's winning percentage works out to a 63 win team. The NL is close to being considered AAAA.

* 5 AL teams dominated with at least 14 wins (out of 18) - the Tigers, White Sox, Twins, Red Sox and Mariners. That's right, the Mariners.

* Just 4 of the 14 AL teams were below .500, with the worst being just 7-11.

* The AL Central had a combined .700 winning percentage - even with the Royals who more than held their own at 10-8. The Twins won 16 out of 18 and only made up one game on the Tigers and two on the White Sox. The AL Central is thinking about kicking the Indians out - they went just 8-10.

* While the Twins didn't gain much ground by dominating the Red Sox did - their 16 wins were 7 better than Toronto and 6 better than NY.



And now a similar look at the NL - here's the standings today:

Team W L PCT
New York 48 33 0.593
St. Louis 44 36 0.550
Cincinnati 44 38 0.537
San Diego 43 39 0.524
Colorado 42 39 0.519
San Francisco 42 40 0.512
Los Angeles 41 40 0.506
Houston 40 42 0.488
Arizona 40 42 0.488
Milwaukee 40 43 0.482
Philadelphia 37 44 0.457
Florida 35 43 0.449
Atlanta 35 47 0.427
Washington 35 48 0.422
Chicago 30 51 0.370
Pittsburgh 28 55 0.337

But if we only included NL games against NL teams it would look like this:

Team NL W NL L NL%
New York 42 24 0.636
St. Louis 39 26 0.600
Cincinnati 38 29 0.567
Los Angeles 36 30 0.545
San Diego 36 31 0.537
Arizona 36 31 0.537
Houston 33 31 0.516
Philadelphia 32 31 0.508
San Francisco 34 33 0.507
Milwaukee 34 34 0.500
Colorado 31 35 0.470
Atlanta 30 37 0.448
Florida 26 34 0.433
Washington 28 37 0.431
Chicago 26 40 0.394
Pittsburgh 25 43 0.368

And here's how each team fared in interleague play:

Team IW IL I%
Colorado 11 4 0.733
San Francisco 8 7 0.533
Florida 9 9 0.500
San Diego 7 8 0.467
New York 6 9 0.400
Cincinnati 6 9 0.400
Milwaukee 6 9 0.400
Houston 7 11 0.389
Washington 7 11 0.389
St. Louis 5 10 0.333
Los Angeles 5 10 0.333
Atlanta 5 10 0.333
Philadelphia 5 13 0.278
Arizona 4 11 0.267
Chicago 4 11 0.267
Pittsburgh 3 12 0.200

A few notes:

* The Mariners were the surprise of the AL and the Rockies are the surprise of the NL going 11-4.

* The only other NL team over .500 was the 8-7 Giants - that's it, just two teams better than .500 against the AL this year.

* The NL Central was the worst division going 30-62 for a nice .326 winning percentage. Even the Royals are better than that!

According to BP Interleague play looked like this prior to this season:

2005 American: 20
2004 American:  2
2003 National: 22
2002 National:  6
2001 American: 12
2000 American: 21
1999 National: 19
1998 American:  4

This season the AL was + 56.

Buster Olney on his ESPN.com blog offered a few explanations for the difference:

* The AL's average payroll is at $83.4 million while the NL was at $72.4 million. There's more impact players moving from the NL to AL in the offseason than vice versa and this has been going on for a few years now.

* The AL has more teams like the Twins and A's who've done well with small payrolls - part of which is an indication that they also have better younger players.


I can't disagree with that.  The AL seems to have the better younger players and whenever there's a significant player switching league it seems like the AL gets the better of things as a whole as Leigh pointed out back in January.  I think we can see the difference in pitchers switching leagues as well.  If Bronson Arroyo was in the AL do you think there's any chance that he's going to make the All Star team?

While there might be some elements of certain AL teams being hot, certain NL teams being cold, and normal randomness it's pretty hard to argue against the AL clearly being the superior league after this year's interleague games.

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AWeb - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 01:49 PM EDT (#150142) #
The team payroll thing is a bit of a stretch to explain the difference. Take out the Yankees (200 million) and the Marlins (14 million), and the leagues are pretty much the same. Yes, this does account for one good team and one bad team, but that's about it.

The better, younger players thing is interesting though. Why would that be? Have AL organizations managed to get better GMs or scouting directors, or are they just more willing to pony up the dough at the draft for the best players? I don't follow the draft closely enough to hazard a guess on that.

I was curious as to where the AL is dominant, so I took a look at positions by Runs Created (at hardballtimes), by qualified players only (so no Jays catchers make the cut, for instance). Not many non qualifiers would factor in anyway, aside from catcher.

Catcher: 12 players qualify, AL has the top 8, the NL has only 3 catchers who qualify. Advantage, AL, huge
First Base: Not really fair, as most AL DHs qualify for this category. But 28 total, 6/10 AL top ten. Pretty much even
Second Base : 24 players qualify, 4/10 AL top ten, Advantage, NL, small
Third Base: 23 players qualify, 4/10 top ten AL, best two young in NL (CAbrera, Wright). Advantage, NL, Large
Shortstop: 26 players, 5/10, Pretty even
LF: 20 qualify, I'll add in the Jays uber-platoon to make it 21, Al has top 4, 5/10 top ten. Advantage, AL slight
CF : 22 qualify, 7/10 AL, plus the NL has most of the worst. advantage, AL, large
RF: 24 qualify, 7/10 AL, advantage, AL, large

So by position, the AL has a huge advantage at Catcher, and the entire outfield. The NL is best at third base, and probably 2B. Leaving aside pitching, that's almost enough to account for the league differences already.



Sister - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 02:20 PM EDT (#150143) #
I don't know if anyone discuss this in the gameday chat but Burnett's velocity looked off today. I'm not sure if it was a gun malfunction or not because the radar gun didn't seem to always be working.

Nonetheless, on TV Burnett hit 95+ mph only 3 or 4 times all game and his fastball looked to be consistently in the 88-91 mph range -- which may have accounted for him getting wacked around so much. Did anyone else notice this. Is something physically or mentally wrong again? Burnett with a 88-91 fastball is a like Josh Towers with a better curveball and weaker control (in other words, not so great).



js_magloire - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#150144) #
After the Nationals game Burnett said something about not pushing himself as hard as he can go....And I think this is has something to do with it, i.e. he's still not throwing his hardest and trying to get by on control because of desperately not wanting to blow his elbow out again.....
VBF - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#150147) #

I recall reading that Arnsberg told Burnett to turn down the velocity to avoid burning out his arm in the long run. After only one start since coming off the DL, it seems a little premature to be tinkering with the game plan, but the Jays must value several years of good AJ as supposed to a couple years of amazing AJ.

Again, it just seems a little premature to be changing this strategy, based on only two full starts. Sometimes when lowering velocity, control is sacrificed which is what we saw yesterday as AJ had serious control issues.

 

CeeBee - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 05:22 PM EDT (#150151) #
Also, it's pretty common for pitchers to "hit the wall" after a few seemingly strong outings when either coming back from an injury or when starting the year. The arm kind of goes dead for a game or two so as long as he's feeling ok and not having pain I wouldn't be too worried.
Flex - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 05:40 PM EDT (#150152) #
I don't know where you get the sense that Arnsberg telling Burnett to dial it down is suddenly changing the game plan. Arnsberg's been trying to get that message through to Burnett from the beginning. Maybe Burnett, with a history of arm trouble behind him, is suddenly starting to listen.
Thomas - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 09:46 PM EDT (#150160) #
Does anyone know how Reed Johnson's hit in the 3rd inning was scored? He hit a grounder to Young with two out and Hinske on first. Young flipped it to do Kinsler, but in the rain Kinsler's foot slipped off the bag and Hinske slid in safe. The ump made the correct call and both runners were safe. The play can't be scored as an error since there was no mistake involving the ball, so shouldn't it be an infield hit? However, both MLB.com and Yahoo Sports have Reed 1-3 so far (he had a single in the top of the sixth) and both play-by-play accounts have him hitting into a fielder's choice. But no outs were recorded on the play and the inning totals four outs now. Doesn't this not make sense or am I missing something?
Mike Green - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 10:15 PM EDT (#150161) #
I've seen that quite a few times.  It is lame official scoring, but "fielder's choice" with everyone safe is a "legal call".  It sort of makes sense when the fielder attempts to get the force with zero or one out, and the runner just beats the play. 
Magpie - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 10:55 PM EDT (#150162) #
The STATS classificiation for that event is Failed Fielder's Choice.  The official scorer has effectively decided that they could have retired the batter if they had tried to do so. They chose to try something else instead.
Magpie - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 11:04 PM EDT (#150164) #
Some quotes from people watching the game tonight:

This is another pitcher we haven't seen before

Not much offense tonight...

Leave it to us to build up a young pitcher's confidence...

The D tonight is junk....

Arrgh... has everyone been first pitch swinging tonight?

not to mention letting weak grounders finding the hole several times and misplaying outfield hits.....

Eh. Another loss to a sucky team with a pathetic pitcher. Nothing new to see here.

All of that comes from disappointed New York fans watching the Yankees lose to Cleveland. Tolstoy was wrong - it's all unhappy families that are alike...




Magpie - Monday, July 03 2006 @ 11:11 PM EDT (#150165) #
Mark Teahen, despite being born and raised in California, was actually eligible for Team Canada in the World Baseball Classic this spring. His father, Mike, is from from Downie Township and his uncle was a St.Mary's town councillor.
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