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It was the top of the eighth inning, and the Red Sox had just increased their lead to 6-2 - they did this when Manny Ramirez hit his second homer of the night (and the season). He struck the blow off Scott Schoeneweis. This was just the third homer Schoeneweis has allowed since becoming a Blue Jay, and I'm proud to say I was in the house for all three (the others, inexplicably enough, came in back to back at bats in that wild 12-9 game against the Royals last May.)

Jason Frasor relieved Schoeneweis. After striking out Nixon and Varitek , Frasor gave up a single to Lowell and a walk to Harris. He then threw a 70 mph curveball to Alex Gonzalez that didn't curve at all, glancing off the Boston shortstop's helmet.

When a curveball doesn't curve and hits the batter - it's no big deal. You're not even supposed to rub it. If anything, you ought to be a little embarrassed at not being agile enough to dodge the thing, as Troy Glaus and several other Blue Jay hitters had done successfully earlier in the evening when Josh Beckett's curveballs just floated up there in the vicinity of the batter's head. Gonzalez certainly appeared to think nothing of it. He trotted promptly to first base, loading the sacks for Kevin Youkilis who eventually struck out to end the inning.

With his first pitch in the bottom of the eighth, Josh Beckett drilled Aaron Hill with a 93 mph fastball. Huh?

It was definitely a pitch that got us going. It got everything going for us.
-Vernon Wells

Whether Beckett did it on purpose or not it got us going.
- Lyle Overbay

Aaron Hill, of course, is off to a tough enough start anyway. In his first at bat tonight, he grounded what looked like a single to left - except Mike Lowell dived to his left to snag the ball, rolled over, and threw to first on a hop in time to nip Hill for the out. In his second at bat, he grounded what looked like a single to right - except this time it was Kevin Youkilis with the diving stop and the feed to Beckett covering to get the out. After that inning, Eric Hinske paused on his way out to right field to give Hill a pat on the back and, presumably, the old "keep-yer-chin-up" words of encouragement. Sooner or later, all of us fall below the Mendoza Line. This too shall pass. Hinske, of course, is arguably the team's fifth best hitter, he came into the game hitting .375, and he's scuffling for playing time. But it's Aaron Hill who needs a little support these days.

Naturally, the man who stepped up to avenge the second baseman was Russ Adams, who stoutly yanked a 2-1 pitch over the wall in the RF corner. Suddenly it was a 6-4 game, and much more interesting to contemplate.

Beckett fanned Catalanotto, but Vernon Wells continued the uprising, driving an 0-1 pitch out over the wall in right-centre. Josh Beckett, pitching a three-hitter and cruising with a four run lead, just had to go tug on Superman's cape. It was now a one-run game, and Troy Glaus, Mighty Troy, was the next hitter. Francona got Beckett the hell out of there and summoned Mike Timlin.

Timlin started Glaus off with an 89 mph fastball. I remember thinking when I saw that - man! Mike Timlin is getting old. He used to throw 94-95, all the time. He humped his next one up there at 92 mph, and Glaus fouled it off. Mighty Troy then crushed an 0-2 pitch - an 0-2 pitch! -way, way back into the seats in left-centre. And Josh Beckett wasn't going to get his fourth win of 2006 tonight.

And justice prevailed everywhere in the universe. For that brief moment in time, anyway.

The putz.

This was a humdinger of a ballgame from the very start, although apparently Jerry Howarth didn't officially pronounce it a "honey of a game" until the ninth inning. The pitching matchup was fascinating - Beckett and Burnett, two young studs who both throw harder than Roy Halladay. Don't see that every day. Team mates for years with the Marlins, both members of the 2003 champs (Beckett the hero, Burnett the DL inhabitant).

When was the last time two men who won World Series rings together started against each other? In Toronto, that is?

Well, it was almost exactly two years ago - two years minus a day, on April 22, 2004. There are very few happy memories of the Season from Hell, but one of the bright spots was surely the Chris Gomez game, when he touched up Curt Schilling for a grand slam to break up a 3-3 tie. The other starting pitcher on that night was Schilling's teammate from Arizona's 2001 champs, Miguel Batista.

Back to tonight's game. When you watch A.J. Burnett throw a baseball, you instantly understand why people get so excited. The ball just explodes out of his hand, at an ungodly velocity, with lots of movement. Then he throws a nasty, nasty curve in the low 80s. And then, just for fun, he zips in a changeup at roughly the speed of Josh Towers' heater. And it's not just the raw tools that make grown baseball men drool - it's that all of this seems to come so effortlessly to him. Burnett's a big guy, but Beckett and Halladay and Clemens are even bigger, and their work seems to involve much more exertion. They look like they're really working at it. Burnett looks like he's playing catch.

Although his elbow sure seems to think there's a lot of work involved...

Early on, Beckett was trying very hard to establish his curveball, which he throws generally around 75 mph. He was trying much harder to establish it because he couldn't throw it for a strike. It kept drifting up there near the hitter's head. Luckily for him, he throws a moving fastball at around 96 mph, and he was able to get by with just that until he got the curve working, around the third or fourth inning. Burnett seemed to have everything working... until there were runners on base. It seemed to put him off his feed. He throws just as hard from the stretch, but his pace, which is not all that brisk to start with, slows dramatically. And behold! - the spirit of Juan Guzman walks the Rogers Centre again..

This is your TDIB today, gang - all Blue Jays! Hey, it was a great ball game. I'll look at the rest of the majors... some other time. Meanwhile, a few more random notes from last night's contest....

Through nine innings, Russ Adams played a very nice shortstop, covering lots of ground and delivering every throw to first right on the money. Finally, on Lowell's deep grounder in the tenth, Adams airmailed a long throw across the diamond - but Overbay climbed the ladder, speared it, and landed on the bag in time to get the out. Olerud is the only other first baseman we've seen here who makes that play.

Speaking of defense, this was my first good look at Eric Hinske in right field. He had a fairly quiet night out there - he was fooled, as most outfielders would be, when Gonzalez broke his bat hitting a fly ball in the fourth, but the Dude recovered and hustled in to make the catch. And he hung with Lowell's opposite field shot in the sixth that kept drifting away from him - he ended up making a pretty nice play on it. He's not Rios, and he might be better suited to LF, but he's not going to hurt the ball club out there.

With Burnett gone after four, six relievers held the Red Sox to three runs over eight innings, and three of them should be singled out for special High Praise. Vinnie Chulk seems to be over his first week diffculties, and retired all five men he faced. B.J. Ryan worked two innings in a tie game against the heart of the Boston lineup, and retired all six men he faced. His ninth inning battle with Manny Ramirez was especially fun. And Justin Speier's second inning saw him come out to face David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez to start the twelfth inning, and strike out both of them.

Speaking of relievers - Keith Foulke took the loss, and I hear that there isn't a lot of cartilage left in those knees - nevertheless, he looked a lot more like the Foulke I remember than that guy who was wearing his uniform in 2005. His fastball was back up in the high 80s, and it was enough to set up what is still as sick a change of speed as anybody throws. He struck out Adams swinging at a 72 mph changeup that was utterly perfect - the arm action was so good, the ball looked exactly like a fastball, but it just wasn't there. There is no hitter anywhere who would not be fooled, it's simply a devastating pitch. If his body holds up, Boston's got some interesting options.....

Rudy Seanez gave up Overbay's game winning double, scoring Troy Glaus from first - and has anyone else noticed how athletic Glaus is for a guy who's... well, enormous. He's way, way bigger than Carlos Delgado, for example. Anyway, Seanez made his ML debut way back in 1989, the same year SkyDome opened for baseball. And before the game started, while we were all watching an enjoyable clip of highlights from the first 30 years of Blue Jays baseball, some of us started wondering.

Who is still out there, playing major league ball, who actually played at old Exhibition Stadium?

There's your challenge today, Bauxites. I give you Julio Franco and David Wells - they both played at the Ex, and they're both still active. Who else?
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Named For Hank - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 08:04 AM EDT (#145588) #
I picked one hell of a game to attend as my first non-working game of the year.

I mean, I've been to a few games in the camera bay, but you can't really watch a game when you're shooting it -- you can watch individual plays, and you spend a lot of time trying to figure out what the likely outcome of the next at-bat is so that you're ready to catch the action, but you lose sight of the big picture very easily.

But last night I was in the cheap seats and yelled my lungs out.   I cannot speak today, and my stomach hurts.  I think I sprained my diaphragm.

I got some pictures of the 518 crew that I'll put up hopefully later this weekend.

Dave Till - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 08:58 AM EDT (#145589) #
Gary Sheffield is another active player who played at the Ex - he was with Milwaukee in 1988 and 1989.

I must confess that my faith wavered last night - I turned my TV off when Ramirez hit his home run, thinking, "They'll get them tomorrow." A little later, I wandered past the ESPN scoreboard page and noticed that it was 6-6. Holy S-word, I thought. Serves me right for giving up.

I don't think we can judge how good the Jays' offense or defense is until the roof is open more often. I've noticed before that the Rogers Centre turns into a launching pad in the springtime when the roof is closed: right-handed hitters, in particular, seem to do particularly well this time of year.

Fun stat of the day: the division-leading Boston Red Sox are currently 11-6. The Blue Jays are responsible for exactly half of those losses.

zeppelinkm - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 08:58 AM EDT (#145590) #
!@(*&!(@)!(@)

Words can't describe how exciting that was.

What a way to cap off an undergraduate degree. I'm in Halifax, so we're an hour ahead on the ol' clock. My last exam EVER!! was scheduled for 7:00 - 10:00. I was deeply saddened by this scheduling, as it meant I would miss the majority of what was sure to be a quick ball game. (Burnett and Beckett? 2 hours if they're both clicking!). But, alas - it was a ridiculously easy exam! The gods were watching over me! I was done by a mere quarter after 8!!

So I raced home to turn on the telly to see what I had missed. Not much, 2nd inning, no score. My roomates were curious about which hockey game I was going to watch. Baffled by the fact I was watching baseball-in-April while there was hockey-in-April on, they left and let me be. You can be both a hockey and a baseball fan, but only one of the two can occupy your heart.

Well, I was pretty depressed when Burnett let those back to back shots to Ortiz and Rameriz, I won't lie. Then he's done after 4 innings, cue the panic button. This guy is experiencing pain? Let him rest till he's 1000%. Not 100%, not 110%, 1000%. We've got him for 5 years right? I consistently expect dominance from him, although I know it's not realistic. I guess I have to accept that not everyone can be a Halladay.

Anyways, we all know how the game went till the 8th. And like was stated, when Russ hits that homer, I just had one of those "well that's nice, good for him" But really, I didn't feel it. I'm sorry - Beckett was just cruising.

Well, there's nothing quite like watching the wheels come off. Vernon hits his homerun, and the ensuing round of applause from myself causes my roomates to return. "What could be happening that is exciting, in baseball, in a game in April." You see, fellow baseball lovers, these are your fabled bandwagon fans. Not a smidgen of interest in "their team" till its August, and only if they're competing for something. So essentially, these guys haven't followed baseball since before the strike. (har har)

So they sit down and I bring them up to speed while we watch the old vet warm up to face Mighty Troy. (I liked He-Man.. but Mighty Troy works too, we just gotta make sure he gets stuck with a nickname that is appropriate!).

I missed it at the time, because we had 5 guys in my room going nuts, but watching the highlight of the homerun this morning off MLB.com I heard the announcers commentary.. (Pretty sure it was Jamie Campbell)

"And here's the 0 - 2 to Glaus....... GLAUS.... GLAUS!!!.......... AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!" and it just tickled me all over again.

So me and the bandwagon I'm pulling sat, eyes glued on the screen, till the big man chugged all the way from first to score off Overbay's clutch double.  I won't lie though, bandwagon fans or not, it sure is fun to have them around. One thing is for sure, and I think it's safe to say, theres 3 more people that won't ever question if baseball can be exciting in April again.

And we get to watch Roy today? Are you kidding me?!?!?! These Jays are different, and I love it!

Gerry - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 09:13 AM EDT (#145591) #

That was a great game to watch, excellent pitching, big knocks and extra-inning goodness.

I have to agree that Molina's defense has not been inspiring so far this season.  I cannot judge his game calling ability but he is slow behind the plate, if the pitcher misses his spot Molina is slow to get over to the ball.  He does not move his body, it's all glove, that makes him more prone to miss the ball.

It will be interesting to see if Zaun starts getting more playing time.

Andrew K - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 09:15 AM EDT (#145593) #
I don't see a link anywhere else to this where we learn that AJ is indeed injured -- the same problem as at the end of Spring Training.

Although "only" probably another scar tissue issue, he's back on the DL.

mathesond - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 09:34 AM EDT (#145594) #
In regards to Molina's defense, Rosenthal has been talking to a scout:

"He was terrible," the scout says. "He did not receive balls cleanly. He doesn't move. He doesn't block balls. He's going to have a tough time handling some of the guys on their staff."

Maybe he should only catch Halladay and Towers

Named For Hank - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 09:41 AM EDT (#145595) #
I had 30 seconds, so here's the 518 crew.  Identify yourself if you wish, or let Bauxites guess who's who.

I'm not in it.

Thomas - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 09:51 AM EDT (#145596) #
I'm not in it because my exams haven't even started. It didn't stop me from watching it on TV (around others watching playoff hockey), but being there would have been something else. But what a game.

Burnett is going to see Dr. James Andrews on Monday, but he stated in the post-game interview that he'd be willing "to take a month off" or whatever is necessary to get it fixed. It's just idle speculation, but I am guessing from that comment that it's likely more than a strain or a "dead arm" or something where he'd only miss a start or so and avoid the DL. I doubt Burnett would talk like that unless he thought it was a bit worse.

Rob - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 10:57 AM EDT (#145597) #
Hmm, is Surhoff still playing? He played there with the Brewers, surely.
perlhack - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 11:24 AM EDT (#145598) #
A few players come to mind:

Roger Clemens (depending on his "retirement")
Ken Griffey Jr. (yes, he has been around that long)
Tom Gordon (he was with KC back then)
Al Leiter (as a Yankee - has he retired?)

Kenny Rogers may also have played at the Ex. I'm not as sure about it, though. Jamie Moyer has been around a while, but I think he started his career in the NL.

Biggio, Bagwell, Glavine, Maddux, Smoltz, Bonds, and Sosa were all active back then, but all were in the NL.

Honourable mention to Pat Borders and Greg Myers. I think it's time to visit ye olde baseball-reference website - it's been a while for me.
Mike D - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 11:32 AM EDT (#145599) #

Great question, Mags.  I had to Retrosheet it, but indeed, the M's paid a visit to the Ex in early May of 1989, meaning that Ken Griffey Jr. and Omar Vizquel each got to play at the CNE during their rookie season.

Perlhack, I don't believe Al Leiter qualifies; he's now a colour man on the YES network in New York.

Mike D - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 11:38 AM EDT (#145602) #
Now that Ruben Sierra's been called up by the Twins, we can add him to the list. 
Useless Tyler - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 11:43 AM EDT (#145603) #
Bloody brilliant game to watch - but even moreso to note the vast changes that the SkyDome crowd has undergone this season. Both the Yankees and the Sox series demonstrated that there is a new breed of Blue Jay fan this year. I should note that I personally reject Jeff Blair's assertion that the loud support for the Jays in the Yankees series was mainly comprised of Boston fans there early - I think yesterday's game proved that dead wrong. What we've got is a crowd that has a far more unified and excitable nature than we've seen in years - whether it's the two-strike clapping, "Let's go Blue Jays", or the ominous "Ben-gie!", everything is being yelled louder, clearer, more in unison, and outright more often - it's as though 518 has spread like a viral growth across the entire stadium (in a good way).

People are legitimately excited about this team - this crowd does not die anymore, even when the team is down by four runs - that is saying something given what we've gone through in past years - not only do us hardcore fans revel in the idea that a 3+ run deficit no longer means game over, so too does the average fan as well.

Oh, and in case anyone didn't notice, the LHP VS SS ___ OPS sign was up again yesterday. Sadly not a particularly suitable time to update it.

Mike D - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 11:47 AM EDT (#145605) #

Just for fun, I skimmed through the '77 AL to see the longest-retired notable players to have played at the Ex.

Dick Allen, Diego Segui, Wilbur Wood, Gaylord Perry, Jimmy Wynn, Luis Tiant, Yaz and of course Ron Fairly.  They all felt the magic of the Ex!  Brooks Robinson played sporadically as a 40-year-old in '77.  I'll look him up on Retrosheet a bit later to see if he got into a game at Toronto.

Rickster - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 11:56 AM EDT (#145606) #

AP reports that Burnett has been placed on the 15 day DL.

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/news_story/?ID=163519&hubname=

Shawn Marcum has been called up to replace him. He has 13 Ks and 2 BBs in 9 IP without allowing a home run this year at Syracuse. He has been used exclusively as a reliever.

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Shaun%20Marcum&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=451788

Mike Green - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 12:44 PM EDT (#145609) #
Excellent decision to call up Marcum for Burnett.  There were 5 realistic choices: Rosario, Janssen, Banks, Marcum and McGowan. Any of the last three would have been all right, but Marcum was, in my view, the best choice in the circumstances.  Downs will most probably move to the rotation for the time being, but it would be ideal if they stretch Marcum out (he's been throwing 2 inning stints in Syracuse) a bit, so that he can step into the breach should Downs struggle. 

You don't tug on Superman's cape
you don't spit into the wind
you don't pull that mask off that old Lone Ranger
...and you don't mess around with Lyle

just doesn't have much of a ring to it, does it? The man needs a nickname- if he played in San Francisco, he'd be "Over the bay Overbay". 

Gerry - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 12:50 PM EDT (#145610) #
Roario has been pitching well but he pitched yesterday so he wouldn't have been able to help until Tuesday.  Gibby just said that Downs won't go back into the rotation in place of Burnett.  Next Thursday the Jays could start Roy on five days rest, go with Marcum, or call up a starter from the minors.  Beginning Tuesday the Jays play 21 straight days so they will need at least a couple of replacement starts.
Rob - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 01:14 PM EDT (#145611) #
We could go with a French/Queen nickname: "Good Old Fashioned L'Overbay." Everything's all right, just hold on tight...
#2JBrumfield - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 02:18 PM EDT (#145612) #

Well, NFH's photo has confirmed I'm the oldest looking 35 year old on the planet.  I need to buy some Just For Men or Grecian Formula pronto!!  I wish I could be at the game today, especially with Doc on the mound, but the long Go Train ride and the drive back to Port Hope took it out of the Missus and me.  I wish all Saturday starts would be 4:07 but they'll be back soon enough I guess.

Still, it was worth going last night - what a hell of a game!  We normally don't go to Friday games because of our work schedules but we wanted to see Burnett's first start at home.   It's just too bad he had to leave the game last night with a wonky elbow.  We got a glimpse of his potential but he was really off in the 3rd inning.  That's the one thing the Red Sox do, they make you work and drive up the pitch count.    

I must point out NFH definitely kept the faith.  He rightfully pointed out when they were down by 4 runs, you had the feeling they were capable of coming back, whereas last year, you didn't get that feeling.  I thought another neat observation he made was that extra innings is like free baseball.  You pay for 9 and anything you get is a bonus, that it works out to less than a dollar an inning!

Even though he didn't get the W, Jason Frasor should get some credit for starting the comeback by plunking Gonzalez.  It enraged Beckett so much to throw at Hill and that threw him off his game.  There was no question that was intentional - their number 9 hitter for ours. 

As for Troy Glaus, wow!  I thought his homer was heading for the upper deck.  And his running the bases in the 12th should've been put to the theme of "Wide World Of Sports".  It really seems having Glaus in the lineup is helping V-Dub big time, especially with his 2 pokes to the opposite field.  I'm just glad it wasn't Molina on the bases, he would've been held at 2nd!   And how about that clutch relief work from B.J. and J-Spy, especially punching out Ortiz and Ramirez.   

It was also nice to see the 518 gang resurrect the "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" chant for Overbay like the Brewers fans did when he stepped up to the plate.  You need a good set of pipes to keep that chant going. 

It really seemed like it was a playoff atmosphere at the game.  I watched the reaction of Wells' first homer in the Jays dugout and the high fiving really seemed to be intense.  It was good to see that kind of reaction and to see them getting pumped up like that.   

It's nice to have a real offence again.  If they could get their starters going, look out!

 

Thomas - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#145613) #

Personally, I'd save Halladay to open up the New York series against the Yankees. Combining his little injury incident with the fact it is the Yankees, I'd rather give him the extra day off. I'd go with Marcum on Thursday if the club thought he could be stretched out to handle 80 pitches or so comfortable. If not, I'd probably hold Rosario's start and have him start on Thursday for the big club, although one could make a good argument for Banks.

JayWay - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 03:01 PM EDT (#145615) #

Question: What has Troy Glaus got against the 100-level? I mean, really. The way he's completely overlooking the 1st-level outfields seats on homerun shots, you'd think he's holding some type of grudge.

Anymore of this from Troy and I'm going to have to accuse him of prejudice! Spread the wealth, Troy...

HollywoodHartman - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 04:42 PM EDT (#145617) #
Rotoworld says (Via bluejays.com) that Banks is most likely to take AJ's spot. But the article on Bluejays.com also mentions Janssen.
VBF - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 06:01 PM EDT (#145620) #

In the second inning or so, the Jays, as part of Flashback Fridays aired a video montage of the historic 10-0 comeback in Fenway park many years ago. I'm not sure if the Jays watched that or how much they really know about the history of the franchise, but that montage definitely set the tone for the ballgame. We need a little more of that.

We look like some cast of a poorly produced 90s sitcom in that photo. :)

Named For Hank - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 06:40 PM EDT (#145621) #
A friend and I were writing a sitcom based on my experiences at 66 games in 2003.  We called it "Cheap Seats".
DrJohnEvans - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 09:56 PM EDT (#145634) #
Too bad you guys were at the game and missed this gem during the broadcast:

Schoeneweis came into the game, greeted by the Sportsnet commentators as boasting "a .167 OPS against when facing left-handed batters."

Pause.

"I know this because there's a sign hanging here in the Rogers Centre that's telling me so."

They then showed a shot of the Batter's Box SS vs LHP sign in 518, in all its glory.  Nice job, guys.
mathesond - Saturday, April 22 2006 @ 10:08 PM EDT (#145635) #
Kudos to Mrs. Action - Duke of Glauster is brilliant!

Only saw a bit of the game today - Saturdays are reserved for me bringing my laptop and a DVD to the hospital so my girlfriend and I can have a 'movie date'. However, she is a Jays fan, and knows how much I wanted to see Roy pitch vs. the Red Sox. Fortunately, the early lead meant the movie ("The Island") wouldn't need to be interrupted too often for updates. We did get a chuckle at seeing Nixon thrown out after making a move towards second, but I thought it seemed a touch familiar - didn't the Jays commit a similar gaffe vs. the Yanks (I think on Wednesday, as that was the only I game I listened to on the radio), but not get called on it?

One thing that certainly comes through over the broadcasts is the enthusiasm of Jays fans at the Centre. I moved back to Southern Ontario in '98, and one August Sunday I decided to catch a game, as Roger Clemens was pitching vs. the Twins. It was assumed (though not formally announced) that Paul Molitor was going to retire after the season, and since I spent his Blue Jay years between Nova Scotia and British Columbia, I figured that this was his last game at SkyDome. Sure enough, he came to bat in the top of the 9th. I stood up in my 500-level seat to applaud him for his career, and for what he had meant to the franchise, and...nothing. Not even a murmur. It was very disappointing. Now, however, I expect that when I'm on my feet, I won't be blocking the view of the people behind me.
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