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The Jays are probably getting themselves a reputation around Beantown. I was discussing the AL East/Wildcard race with a co-worker, and we came to the conclusion that, no matter what happens, if you're a Jays fan cheering against the Yankees (sorry Mick), the outcome of these four Jays-Red Sox games is bad no matter what it is.

Well, I guess if you're going to help the Yankees, you should at least do it in style, and that's what the Jays did last night — thank God. Frankie Cat came this close to becoming only the third Jay to ever hit for the cycle (quick trivia question: who were the other two?), Eric Hinske hit a 2-run drive Mike Wilner described as "prodigious," and the Jays absolutely hammered Bronson Arroyo.

But, as is my wont, this game stops being analyzed here, and I go onto other, somewhat different topics.



First, I've been waiting a long time to do this.

Separated at birth? Roster member Leigh vs. Bronson Arroyo. (I'm afraid it was a lot more obvious when Leigh had a goatee.)


Second, a fight to get to the ballpark.

I've been after my boss, Paul Salvini, CTO of Side Effects Software, to go to the Rogers Centre with me for some time. We've discussed it at lunch frequently, but never set a date — and then, when I tried to set a date, it turned out to be bad. "How about Tuesday?" "Oooh, yeah, Tuesday's not so good. Wednesday too. Really, the whole week is out." "Ok, next week then?" "Well, actually, I'm in Santa Barbara then. What about the week after?" "The Jays are in Seattle then." "Oh great, I'll be there not too long before! Maybe I'll go catch a Mariners game..."

Eventually, after yet another rescheduling, I was able to get Paul out to the ballpark. He hadn't been since 1998, or thereabouts, and even when he went he didn't really know that much about baseball. "When I used to go out to the ballpark, I'd be the one telling everyone else about baseball. It was a lot easier going with Joe," he later told a co-worker.

I was apprehensive about this game — Paul's not known for his long attention span. But actually, it turned out to be a lot of fun for both of us. I got to test my baseball knowledge: "So what are they doing here?" "That's a hit-and-run. The batter's just trying to make contact with the ball, because if he can, the runner's a lot less likely to get thrown out — meaning you're not going to hit into a double-play. Plus, the infielders have to run over to cover the bases, so there are some holes opened up that the batter might be able to be lucky enough to hit into." A constant dialogue along those lines was going on.

Paul, as someone not regularly at the Rogers Centre, seemed especially impressed with the new videoboards at the stadium, although he liked the FieldTurf. I was even able to tell him a story passed on to me by our own Named For Hank. The turf needs to be taken up and/or moved around for various functions, and in the early days of the season that's no problem. But now that the dome has been open for a number of months, when the turf pallets are lifted, the workers find some very confused crickets living in the plastic grass.

Paul's exactly the sort of person the Jays needed to attract in this sports-starved town. The Jays have the possibility (I'm not sure how remote now that there are only 3 home games remaining) of drawing 2 million fans for the first time in years, and their timing couldn't have been better. A competitive and interesting team was fielded in a town that didn't have its hockey, and the fans responded. Yes, there have been some miscues (Cf. Yankees pandering). Yes, the team hasn't been perfect (Cf. September hitting). But yes, the future is bright, and I think that there are some newly-minted baseball fans who will support the team in this future. That's a successful season for a rebuilding team in my books.

Named For Hank needed me, and I came a-runnin.

But the Jays didn't respond in exactly the way I wanted, and the Fu didn't get the reception I wanted from a) my girlfriend and b) everyone else. (True story: At the game with Paul, we were sitting in the second row in the 500 level. Ryan Greer comes to the front of the section and asks "Hey, anybody want to do a contest?" Nobody responds for a little while, so finally I pipe up: "Sure, I'll do it." He looks me up and down and then says "Anybody at all?") Clearly, the Fu had to go.

Well, at least it saw the Rogers Centre, even if the Rogers Centre didn't see it.

Finally, I've shared this spot with Jordan these last six months, and I know that, if you're anything like me, you've really, really enjoyed Jordan's work — it seems that, any time you turn around, he's dashed off another thousand words or so of excellent, interesting, and well-thought-out baseball talk. It's been a real honour being associated with guys of the calibre of my fellow Rosterites, and I thank everyone — especially Jordan — both for the chance to read their work and for the opportunity to blather on as I do.

Some questions for discussion: How can the team improve the off-field atmosphere for baseball? Do you know of any new fans the Jays have reached? How about old fans who have had their passions rekindled (or, alternately, been driven away)?

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King Rat - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 08:34 AM EDT (#129123) #
Trivia: Kelly Gruber and Jeff Frye. I was actually at the Frye game.
Jordan - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 09:26 AM EDT (#129127) #
Frye's cycle was a fraud -- he needed a single in his last at-bat and drove a ball into the gap. But instead of taking the double, he stopped at first base (at the urging of the first-base coach Garth Iorg, who should've been canned on the spot for that).
Pistol - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 09:30 AM EDT (#129128) #
So is that Bronson or Leigh in this picture? I'm so confused now.
Craig B - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 09:32 AM EDT (#129129) #
Frye's cycle was a fraud -- he needed a single in his last at-bat and drove a ball into the gap. But instead of taking the double, he stopped at first base (at the urging of the first-base coach Garth Iorg, who should've been canned on the spot for that).

Geez, you know I love you, man, but you sound like a crotchety old tyrant. The score at the time was 10-2, Frye's hit made it 11-2, it was the bottom of the seventh. Who cares that Frye took a single when he could have had a double? I know what the fans in attendance would have preferred him do - get the cycle, so they'd have something to tell people about years later.

It is possible to take baseball so seriously that you suck all the fun out of it. :)

Jordan - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 09:43 AM EDT (#129131) #
My dream is to be a grumpy old man at 40. And you can't stand in the way of a man's dreams, dammit! :)

Named For Hank - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 09:47 AM EDT (#129133) #
So is that Bronson or Leigh in this picture? I'm so confused now.

That's Leigh. He brought her to a couple of games this year.
Pepper Moffatt - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 09:48 AM EDT (#129134) #
LOL.. Why do I picture that when Frye stopped at first Jordan got out of his seat and yelled "HOGAN!!!!" a la Colonel Klink?

/because I watch too much damn TV, that's why.
Jordan - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 10:01 AM EDT (#129137) #
Actually, on August 17, 2001, I'm pretty sure I was drinking heavily in a Saskatoon pub. No wonder I'm grouchy about that game.
Shortstop - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 10:06 AM EDT (#129138) #
If you recall, the last hit for Gruber bounced high on the turf and he could have tried for second, but settled for a single. Plus, Willie Wilson knocked himself out on the triple.
Paul D - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 10:10 AM EDT (#129139) #
Gruber's cycle was the same, he could have gone for second but stopped at 1st.

And for someone like Frye, who's not going to be remembered for much, I don't hold it against it him for getting his moment of glory.
Rob - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 10:29 AM EDT (#129143) #
Actually, on August 17, 2001, I'm pretty sure I was drinking heavily in a Saskatoon pub. No wonder I'm grouchy about that game.

I can see it now:

"Whaddaya mean they added a stop sign at Empress and Osborne??? How are people supposed to turn right onto 33rd?!? I tell ya, if this adds ten minutes to my commute to Cudworth, I won't be happy! Wait, Frye! What are you doing! Go to second!"

Named For Hank - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 10:59 AM EDT (#129154) #
Mike Toth on Sportsnet last night (and this morning on the rerun) said that the reason the Jays have owned the Red Sox this year (11-6) is "the curse of Hazel Mae".
Ducey - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:01 AM EDT (#129155) #
Jobu - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:05 AM EDT (#129158) #
Excellent, now all we need to do is send the Yankees "the curse of Jason Portuondo" and the division is ours.
VBF - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:12 AM EDT (#129160) #
(I'm not sure how remote now that there are only 3 home games remaining)

Definitely possible. The Jays need to average 25,000 fans over the next 3 games. And I think there was a press release a while back that said they already have, but I dunno.

Well the Jays have done an A+ job of marketing merchandise to the younger generation. Walking downtown, there are tons of people wearing merchandise.

Their latest target market of 'mothers with families' has had some success, but let's be realistic. Average families aren't going to come to over 5 games a season.

The Jays have to target the University stream students for next year. University kids are loud and always looking for things to do. The one downside is that they (we) have limited funds, so they're going to have to come up with some creative promotions that sell tickets cheaply, but still maintaining the integrity and exclusiveness of Blue Jays tickets.

The marketing was alright. As NFH put it, it was a good idea with poor execution. In fact, since "Baseball North", marketing has tried to touch on the lighter side of the Blue Jays. We don't need the humour anymore. Focus on winning, focus on history (it wil be the 30th season), and focus on competing. Make people come to the ballpark not because 'it's a fun thing to do' but because they want to see an important game. Ever see those commercials for 'Rogers NFL Sunday'? Our commercials should be like that.

Craig B - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:13 AM EDT (#129161) #
It's a shame about Shea, it would have been nice if he'd been able to raise his average up to .300 before the end of the year but the 0-for-8 doubleheader scotched that anyway. O-Dog, though... he needs the rest anyway.
Mike D - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:14 AM EDT (#129162) #
Interesting, Ducey. Speier was favouring his finger on Tuesday night -- the Boston commentators were wondering whether he developed a blister.
Named For Hank - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:28 AM EDT (#129165) #
Their latest target market of 'mothers with families' has had some success, but let's be realistic. Average families aren't going to come to over 5 games a season.

Being a stay-at-home dad, I belong to a "mommies group", basically a bunch of stay-at-home parents from our prenatal class that get together on Mondays and hang out or go out and do stuff. I brought up the Mommy Section of the Rogers Centre as a possible outing, but the consensus was that the tickets were too expensive for mediocre seats. If they were either less expensive or better seats, we would have come out as a group. It was certainly a good idea.

Since we're missing the final homestand because of my show, Theo's final tally for the season is 18: 16 games at the Rogers Centre and 2 at RFK in Washington.
costanza - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:51 AM EDT (#129168) #
The one downside is that they (we) have limited funds, so they're going to have to come up with some creative promotions that sell tickets cheaply, but still maintaining the integrity and exclusiveness of Blue Jays tickets.

I think that $9 is cheap. These are the same tickets that cost twice that much a decade ago. Is there any sports or entertainment venue that's comparable in price?

Joe - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#129169) #
I think it's more a misconception that 500-level seats (the $9 ones) are bad, which is decidedly not the case. I find it harder to see what's going on closer to the field; give me 524A/B any day.
Matthew E - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#129170) #
I'm on the side of the Frye-Iorg-Cito-Gruber bashers. If you hit a double, you run to second. Is there a more blatant example of putting your personal goals ahead of team goals than stopping at first? I don't care what the score is. You play to win. You don't play to achieve statistical curiosities.

The story I like to tell is that of Darryl Strawberry, who was in a similar situation once: coming into his last at-bat, he needed a single for the cycle. He hit a single, but managed to stretch it into a double. After the game a reporter asked him why he did that. Strawberry said something like, 'because that's how you play the game'.
Ryan Day - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 12:06 PM EDT (#129171) #
More players need to hold Daryl Strawberry as a role model.
costanza - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 12:11 PM EDT (#129173) #
Yes, I think it's because people see that something is cheap, and assume it isn't worth having... which is exactly why I think the team should avoid price-slashing and giveaways as a strategy. I'd much prefer them to try to offer more value for the dollar -- everyone loves giveaway days... why not have more? Why not bring back Bonus Day? Give more stuff away in the stands... people seem to go nuts over free popcorn and the like. (Even the people who most hate the Pizza Pizza promotion would acknowledge that it's quite popular)

Anyways, I'm sure that people who have no idea that the 500 level seats behind home plate used to cost the same as 100-level outfield seats simply assume that the 500-level seats are worse, based solely on the price. That certainly isn't the case, IMO... I'd much rather sit up there. 100-level outfield seats are great... if you don't care too much about what's happening at the plate.
Sister - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 01:45 PM EDT (#129181) #
What has happened to Chris Carpenter? After a superb April to August, he has had a miserable September. In his last four starts he has given up 36 hits and 23 runs in 21 IP.

This is not a meaningless development. The Cards should be concerned heading into the playoffs.
VBF - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#129186) #
Actually, I have something better than that. Business people. There's thousands of them only feet away from the RC and thousands walk past the SkyWalk on their way home to the Go stations/Subways If the Jays could dip into this market, they'd have loud fans who can fork out the money.
VBF - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 02:10 PM EDT (#129187) #
I think that $9 is cheap. These are the same tickets that cost twice that much a decade ago. Is there any sports or entertainment venue that's comparable in price?

Don't get too attached to $9 seats behind home plate on the 500 level. The price will likely rise again, but it is a fantastic deal.

The 100 level seats as I've learned are actually not bad. In fact, if you sit in either section 141 or 101, you have the same view as a television camera--meaning you have the best view of the strike zone.

$9 seats are cheap, but if you want to go to more games, it starts to add up. The marketing department shouldn't be looking for people to go once or twice, but repreatedly, over and over again. How about a points system? Go to 5 games and earn 500 points towards the purchase of merchandise or other game tickets. And so on...

Craig B - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 02:13 PM EDT (#129188) #
If you hit a double, you run to second. Is there a more blatant example of putting your personal goals ahead of team goals than stopping at first?

Entertaining the fans has nothing to do with your personal goals. I didn't say Frye should stop at first for Jeff Frye's sake. I said Frye should stop at first because 25,000 fans want him to.

Besides, who cares about "team goals" in an 11-2 game? The team goal - the win - is already achieved. That's the time when players play for themselves. It has always been the way. It's 100% accepted inside baseball.

Craig B - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 02:15 PM EDT (#129189) #
More players need to hold Daryl Strawberry as a role model.

Heh. I love Darryl, I really do, but I think this may be the first time this sentence has ever been uttered.

Four Seamer - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 02:18 PM EDT (#129191) #
I said Frye should stop at first because 25,000 fans want him to.

The $1 million prize winner was probably also pretty happy with Frye's decision to stop at first!

Named For Hank - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#129198) #
How about a points system? Go to 5 games and earn 500 points towards the purchase of merchandise or other game tickets. And so on...

They had that system in 2003 and us Seasons Passers milked the hell out of it. I still haven't watched my "Your Choice of Kevin Costner Baseball Movies On VHS", but we spent all the gift cards.
rtcaino - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 03:02 PM EDT (#129202) #
Sun Artcile, Rustey. Entitled 'Is there hope for next year?'

Summarizes year. Summarizes next years financial situation, including current contracts, arbitration eligibles, players who we may target in trades and in free agency.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Baseball/MLB/Toronto/2005/09/29/1240749-sun.html
VBF - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 03:04 PM EDT (#129204) #
See, but what's wrong with that. why not let the fans milk it for everything. Now albeit (and nothing against Pass holders) the people eho used it were getting their tickets for about a dollar, why not still have this system but not allow Pass holders to use it. Or, once they raise the price of the Pass, re-allow them to use it.
Ron - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 03:19 PM EDT (#129206) #
I pretty much agree with what Rutsey said. The Jays aren't minor tweaks away from contention.

JP has a lot of work to do in the off-season but he has the payroll flexabilty and prospects to do it. This off-season is put up or shut up time for JP. There won't be any excuses for him to use.

One name that was mentioned that is interesting is Erubiel Durazo. I highly doubt he will break the bank and he could provide some punch for a line-up such as the Jays. If he's healthy I don't think it's unreasonable to expect 20-25 homers from him next season.
Matt - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 04:00 PM EDT (#129210) #
I love baseball because of passages like this, when explaining why the White Sox just clinched the AL Central:

<i>The reason the White Sox and Indians wouldn't play a one-game playoff is because, with the Red Sox and Yankees playing each other this weekend, one team would be guaranteed to finish out of the playoffs if the Indians swept the White Sox. And in instances in which two teams from the same division are guaranteed to make the playoffs, MLB does not use a one-game playoff, instead relying on head-to-head records to break the tie. </i>

I love it I love it I love the permutations!!!
Tyler - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 04:40 PM EDT (#129213) #
Actually, I have something better than that. Business people. There's thousands of them only feet away from the RC and thousands walk past the SkyWalk on their way home to the Go stations/Subways If the Jays could dip into this market, they'd have loud fans who can fork out the money.

I was at a bunch of games in September, snickering at the guys who showed up in suits. Then I realized that that's me a year from now and for the next 40 years.

Matt - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 04:54 PM EDT (#129216) #
I don't agree with rutsey's comments on the bullpen. I think the bullpen requires very little tweeking, if any. Granted, Batista was shakey, which is the basis of the argument - but this bullpen as a whole has been dynamite, winning many a game the Jays had absolutely no business in even being in.

The 7+ Inning effort of shutout ball against Boston comes to mind, as does the ridiculous effort in Anaheim where I think the pen went 9 shutout frames. I don't care if you're closer is shakey (although Batista does have the potential to put it together if his team keeps faith in him), name me 3 other teams in the league that can boast that kind of relief depth.

If Burnett and Aubrey Huff arrive, and the rest of the club stays more or less as is, I'm not printing playoof tickets or anything, but I would say such a club would have a solid shot of 90+ wins.

The power-starved offense just needs one big bat like an Aubrey Huff and I think the presence will feed upon young hitters like a Gabe Gross, Alex Rios or Aaron Hill. I'm geeked for the offseason and I'm going to try and nab 10+ tix for 2006.
Named For Hank - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 05:00 PM EDT (#129217) #
I was at a bunch of games in September, snickering at the guys who showed up in suits. Then I realized that that's me a year from now and for the next 40 years.

Heh. And if I had worn suits to work before I left the ordinary workforce I would have been showing up in suits all last year and the year before. But instead I just wore baseball jerseys to work.
GeoffAtMac - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 06:58 PM EDT (#129222) #

One name that was mentioned that is interesting is Erubiel Durazo. I highly doubt he will break the bank and he could provide some punch for a line-up such as the Jays. If he's healthy I don't think it's unreasonable to expect 20-25 homers from him next season.

Erubiel Durazo is a decent slugger, but I think that the Jays can do better. I think they really need to "swing for the fences", and try to trade for someone of a higher calibre. Somebody like Adam Dunn, Wily Mo Pena, or maybe to a lesser degree somebody like Cliff Floyd or Geoff Jenkins...

I was just thinking about Jenkins and looked him up (not because we have the same name). It looks like he could be someone to think about -- upgraded slugging percentage over our entire team this year, and a reasonable salary $7.5 MIL. He's not too old (will be 32 next year), sort of seems like a Blue Jays type of player. BUT, I would definitely agree he is not the pinnacle kind of guy that will take us exactly where we need to go. We need him AND Dunn, or him AND somebody else. I just hadn't heard anyone ever talk about Geoff Jenkins -- just wondering if there was a reason why.

...I read that Tor Sun story as well, and thought it was a little harsh, but admittedly we are a few steps away from WS Champs 06 as of today. But I am stil excited for what we are going to do in the off-season -- in fact I am pumped.

I have one other question for the knowledgeable bauxites -- whom I read their stuff daily, I just don't comment all the time -- does anybody have anything against going after Ramon Hernandez for a catcher, as I believe he is a FA next year. He strikes me as a pretty solid hitter.

Willy - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 08:21 PM EDT (#129223) #
I was at a bunch of games in September, snickering at the guys who showed up in suits. Then I realized that that's me a year from now and for the next 40 years.

Sure, the suits are fine; but what you really must have is a cell-phone--to irritate other fans with.

Techie question: I'm in "Preview" now, and the dateline says Wednesday, December 31, 1969 @ 7:00 P.M. EST. What?
Named For Hank - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 10:26 PM EDT (#129225) #
Techie question: I'm in "Preview" now, and the dateline says Wednesday, December 31, 1969 @ 7:00 P.M. EST. What?

You haven't posted yet, so it hasn't stamped your post with the time of the actual posting. Instead, it gives all of us this crazy end-of-the-sixties time stamp until we post.

I've been asked to cheer less loudly because I was drowning out someone's cell phone conversation. I was very neighborly and proceeded to shout not only more loudly but more frequently.
VBF - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:03 PM EDT (#129240) #
I yelled out "Let's go Vernon" while sitting in dugout seats, and some lady turned around and said "Looks like we have some crazy people in this section". "Maybe they should have a section for people to just yell and others who actually watch the game!".

I'm like WTF????!!!

How is saying "Let's go Vernon" not watching the game?
VBF - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:06 PM EDT (#129241) #
Willy, one can only imagine what this new mystical decade will bring. Flying cars, men on the moon, I truly cannot wait!
Tyler - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:40 PM EDT (#129246) #
I've been asked to cheer less loudly

I was at a game with a friend and we hadn't seen each other for a few months. We were shooting the shit, catching up on various sports related issues, things like that. In the seventh inning, some 55 year old woman turns around and says "Are you guys ever going to stop talking?" Now my inclination is just generally to apologize and then behave in a passive aggressive manner. My friend on the other hand, quickly responded "Hey lady, if you've got problem go f*** yourself. This is a ballgame, not the theatre."

Good times.

Named For Hank - Thursday, September 29 2005 @ 11:57 PM EDT (#129249) #
I yelled out "Let's go Vernon" while sitting in dugout seats, and some lady turned around and said "Looks like we have some crazy people in this section". "Maybe they should have a section for people to just yell and others who actually watch the game!".

Been there. Expensive seats can be seriously lacking in fun. I've had people ask each other, loudly so I can hear, "Why is he shouting? Is he an idiot?" This is after I shouted "charge" in response to the bugle call. Admittedly, this I do very loudly. After I obviously did not get the hint, they directly addressed me and told me it was no place to be shouting.

I turned to Mrs. Hank and shouted "Holy crap, we're at the ballet!"

It's more fun to be in expensive seats with Yankee fans -- the ones who've spent big money on their tickets are more likely to engage you in a shouting match or some fun verbal back-and-forth. In the cheaper seats you get the guy who looked at Alex's Expos jersey and said "Haha, Expos -- why don't you go back to Portugal?" Which, of course, sent us into hysterics.
Twilight - Friday, September 30 2005 @ 02:46 AM EDT (#129254) #
I yelled out "Let's go Vernon" while sitting in dugout seats, and some lady turned around and said "Looks like we have some crazy people in this section". "Maybe they should have a section for people to just yell and others who actually watch the game!".

Haha! That's when you counter it with "looks like we've got some uptight [pick your expletive] in this section! Maybe we should have a section for all the a-holes who pretend to be fans of teams to impress their significant others."
VBF - Friday, September 30 2005 @ 03:16 AM EDT (#129255) #
I was at a game with a friend and we hadn't seen each other for a few months. We were shooting the shit, catching up on various sports related issues, things like that. In the seventh inning, some 55 year old woman turns around and says "Are you guys ever going to stop talking?" Now my inclination is just generally to apologize and then behave in a passive aggressive manner. My friend on the other hand, quickly responded "Hey lady, if you've got problem go f*** yourself. This is a ballgame, not the theatre."

Tyler, that's the exact same thing that happened to a friend of mine when he was sitting in the 200s. Some people are just idiots.

VBF - Friday, September 30 2005 @ 03:25 AM EDT (#129256) #
The lady that said this though wasn't of any high class. She was a Trailer Trash and straight from Alabama. She'd probably have no problem making noise at a hockey game, but apparantly we can't interrupt silence with noise. The good news is there were people (her husband included) that liked making noise and we had a pretty good time all around.
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