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The Blue Jays turned chippy offense and a good bullpen performance into a solid and satisfying 8-6 win in the Bronx.

  • Neither of the two former Expos pitchers who started the game had an afternoon to write home out. They both went 5 Innings and gave up 6 runs. Lilly didn't seem to be pitching particularly badly, things just weren't happening for him. That's his third ineffective outing in a row now.

  • The bullpen picked Lilly up in excellent fashion. Walker, Schoeneweis and Batista combined to blank the Yankees for the final four frames:
    IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR
    4	0	0	0	2	2	0
    
    Walker's allowed just one run so far this year.

  • Gibbons decided today was the day to unleash the full frenzied torment of the aggressive running game we had been promised in spring training. This kind of thing can be very effective against poor defensive teams - Tampa Bay have been doing it to the Jays to great effect for the past couple of years. The intent was signaled in the second when Koskie stole second with none out and Hillenbrand at the plate, Koskie was almost immediately on third as a passed ball allowed him to move up when Posada and Pavano got their signals mixed up. The less effective side of the strategy was shown in the fifth when the delayed double steal failed. Wells broke for second and Cat for home as Posada fired to second, but Jeter was on top of the play and easily made the throw home in time. If this is a tactic Gibbons pulls out of the hat occasionally when the situation calls for it, I'm all for it. I hope it doesn't become too central a part of the Jays offense.

  • When they weren't charging around the bases the hitters put together a fine afternoons work. They started scoring in the third and didn't let up until the eighth. Shea Hillenbrand, as usual, led the way going 4 for 5. Hillenbrand has amazed me so far this year. I haven't watched all the Jays games by any means, but every time I do he seems to be going three for five and every time he's up he hits the ball hard. It's like Nomar used to be, everything that comes off the bat seems to be a line drive. Koskie looked good as well, he was 2 for 5 and had the best at-bats I've seen from him as a Jay.

  • O-Dog was just a little dizzy, no lasting damage, after running into Umpire Rick Reed in the third. He had a precautionary CT scan, which was negative. Gibbons has indicated he'll probably give him a night off tonight in Baltimore. Rick Reed is a big and solid thing to run into when you're O-Dog sized.

  • If the Yankees don't win the big one this year or next year they'll be right around $1 billion of Big George's money spent on payroll since their last series win. After 2004 their payroll since their last win was at around $600 million, just about the same as the Jays have spent since their last win.

  • Bernie Williams has a terrible arm, no news there, but its getting to the almost embarassing stage. First, Shea Hillenbrand tagged up and went to second on a flyball to Bernie that was five yards shy of the warning track. Then with Hinske going from third to home on a shallow fly to centre Williams throw (all of, what, 40 yards) barely reached the cutoff man behind the pitchers mound. Cat was targeted by the Yankees to run on as well yesterday. A-Rod went, very easily, from second to third on a routine fly to left-centre in the second. Is Cat's arm something Jay's fans should be worring about ?

Around the Majors

  • Johan Santana lost for the first time since Duran Duran were big.

  • Todays opponents the Orioles won their 8th straight against The Devil Rays. Baltimore's offense is crazy, they're on a pace to score 970 runs this year. Brian Roberts' exploits have been well recorded, but another amazing stat from Oriole-land B.J Ryan has struck out 21 in 12 Innings.

  • Old friend John Olerud has signed a minor league deal with the Red Sox.
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Mike Green - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 10:52 AM EDT (#114849) #
This might be a minority view, but I don't think Johnny O is done. He's not that old, and while his numbers in Seattle don't look great, Safeco is a tough park. If he's healthy and is used in a platoon and defensive role exclusively, I see no reason why he cannot be a useful contributor. Typical smart signing by the Sox, in my view.
Pistol - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 11:00 AM EDT (#114850) #
"Baltimore is looking for a right-handed bat to compliment Rafael Palmeiro, Jay Gibbons and Larry Bigbie. Shea Hillenbrand is one possibility."

Could you imagine if the O's started the season with Hillenbrand at 1B? You'd have an infield of Mora, Tejada, Roberts and Hillenbrand. They'd have to put in the 10 run rule.

Mick Doherty - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 11:13 AM EDT (#114851) #
Johan Santana lost for the first time since Duran Duran were big.

I realize it may be a Reflex to assume Santana will win, but Listen Listen Listen, the Angels are Hungry Like the Wolf these days, with a real View to a Kill. That's no Rally Monkey -- it's Girls on Film (apologies to former Angel Chuck Finley and Tawny Kitaen, of course) ... today there's a New Moon on Monday, but Santana is Notorious for bouncing back against a team of Wild Boys, so don't Come Undone.

That is all.

jsut - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 11:18 AM EDT (#114852) #
I think Mick just melted my brain.
uglyone - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 11:34 AM EDT (#114855) #
What interests me most in that Gammons article was his mention of the possibility of Billy Wagner being available.

That would be a nice fit.

I'd look long and hard at Sweeney as well.
Mick Doherty - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 11:42 AM EDT (#114857) #
"Baltimore is looking for a right-handed bat to compliment [sic] Rafael Palmeiro, Jay Gibbons and Larry Bigbie."

Raffy, you look nice today! Jay, been working out? Larry, great pecs, buddy!

Now, maybe Shea would be a nice complement to those guys, but does he have the stomach to say nice things about them all the time?

Sorry -- that's an excusable offense in a Web site comment or blog, but a paid professional columnist with presumably at least two levels of copyeditors, doesn't get to make homonym errors. I even went to the Gammons link to make sure it wasn't a transcription error on Batter's Box's part. It was not. Ugh.

Dunny - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 11:49 AM EDT (#114859) #
My roommate and I were discussing Sweeney last night..

How much does he have left? Could he play LF?

Also he comes with an 11 million dollar price tag
most of which the Royals will not be willing to eat.

I still think F-Cat is the odd man out on this team.
MatO - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 12:08 PM EDT (#114863) #
Sweeney can barely play first base never mind left field. He's a good hitter with a bad back.
Craig S. - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 12:09 PM EDT (#114864) #
My roommate and I were discussing Sweeney last night. How much does he have left? Could he play LF?

He hardly has enough left to play at first base, and he's never played the outfield in his major league career. I think he'd be a disaster out in left, and he'd be a huge step down from Hinske at first.

Along with the $11m price tag, there's also the fact that he's a huge injury risk. He's only played about 2/3 of his team's games the last couple of years, due mostly to his chronic back problems. Given that those tend to get worse as the year progresses, I'd be hesitant to pick up much of that contract. His numbers are great when he plays, but there's a pretty healthy risk involved.
PeterG - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 12:19 PM EDT (#114865) #
Gammons also mentions that Jeremy Affeldt may become available. JP has always liked him and has attempted to acquire him in the past.
Blue in SK - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#114867) #
Of the players mentioned in Gammons article, the one I like best for the Jays is Aubrey Huff. The man can hit. Just not sure where you would play him? Could he play LF?
Ryan C - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 01:16 PM EDT (#114879) #

There was a question yesterday about why you bring in Schoeneweiss to face Posada, from the Rutsey article:

"We wanted to stay away from the short right-field wall," Gibbons said, not wanting Posada to bat left against Walker, a right-hander. "I've seen him hit too many of them over that wall."

Nice call Magpie.

MatO - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 01:19 PM EDT (#114882) #
I like Huff too. I think he has the potential to play LF as badly as I've seen him play RF and 3B. As long as everyone is willing to put up with that then yes he can play LF.
Ryan C - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 01:20 PM EDT (#114883) #
"It's understanding we can compete. Having the mindset we're good. I've played against Toronto since 2001 and I never had a sense they thought that. It's huge in this game.

That's quite a quote from Hillenbrand in the Star.

Mike Green - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 01:37 PM EDT (#114886) #
Juan Rincon was suspended for violation of MLB's drug policy.
uglyone - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 01:42 PM EDT (#114888) #
Aubrey Huff would be absolutely ideal. Absolutely perfect. But are the "young and building" Rays really going to let this guy go? How could they?

As for Sweeney....can Shea play LF? He looks pretty nimble when he plays 3rd, with a solid arm...I can't see him having too hard a time in LF.
King Ryan - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 02:19 PM EDT (#114889) #
Baltimore's offense is crazy, they're on a pace to score 970 runs this year.

Wow. Who would have tought that Pat Tabler would be right?

Rob - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 02:37 PM EDT (#114892) #
Juan Rincon was suspended for violation of MLB's drug policy.

Okay, I just traded for him in MVP. That's uncanny.

Who should I trade for next?

Mike Green - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#114896) #

Who should I trade for next?

Melvin Mora, please, Rob. Roberts will find sea level on his own.

Coach - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 03:06 PM EDT (#114903) #
Nice call Magpie.

Magpie always observes a lot by watching. That's why his comments carry so much more weight with me than those from someone whose almost always finds fault. He understands the most subtle nuances of the game and is able to get inside a manager's head.

I've played against Toronto since 2001 and I never had a sense they thought that.

In 2002 and 2004, for reasons of rebuilding and catastrophic bad luck, respectively, Hillenbrand is probably right -- the Jays didn't believe they could win. There were periods in 2003 (especially May and September) when they played with confidence; Shea may not have noticed. This year's club might be able to sustain its positive attitude all season. They certainly bounced back nicely from the losing streak and while Baltimore won't be an easy series, Gibby's men will be in the right frame of mind: revenge.
Pistol - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 04:08 PM EDT (#114916) #
For what it's worth, Huff's most comparable player at BR is Vernon Wells.
Thomas - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 04:20 PM EDT (#114919) #
Here's a quote from a NY Daily News article today that I thought was worth sharing, especially if anybody has forgotten how valuable Butterfield is to this coaching staff.

Said Hillenbrand, who had four hits to raise his AL-leading average to .410 and now has a .355 average at the Stadium: "I thought Bernie would get to it, but I also thought it might be deep enough. Butterfield is the best base-running coach I've ever had and since spring training he has us thinking about always taking the extra base and getting from first to third. What I did is part of that mind-set."

Magpie - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 05:58 PM EDT (#114927) #
The reasons Huff could be available are: a) the return of Rocco Baldelli, whenever that happens, b) Johnny Gomes demonstrating that he's here to stay. In which case, the Rays have too many bodies for OF/DH.

Huff is 28, makes just under $ 5 million, and I don't think he's a FA until after 2006. The man isn't actually a good defensive player wherever he's played so far, although you'd think he could be a decent first baseman. It would probably help him a lot if he wasn't moved to a different position every few weeks or so...

Jim - Monday, May 02 2005 @ 06:13 PM EDT (#114930) #
I'd love to have Huff at DH.

I know professional sports don't really work like this, but in a vaccum it's a perfect time to sell high on Hillenbrand.
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