I wonder if tall hitters do better than short hitters against tall pitchers. So, our little prizeless contest for the day- what will Alex Rios' line for today be?
I wonder if tall hitters do better than short hitters against tall pitchers. So, our little prizeless contest for the day- what will Alex Rios' line for today be?
Toronto
DH) F. Menechino
LF) R. Johnson
CF) V. Wells
3B) S. Hillenbrand
RF) A. Rios
C) G. Zaun
1B) E. Hinske
2B) O. Hudson
SS) J. McDonald
NY Yankees
SS) D. Jeter
2B) T. Womack
RF) G. Sheffield
LF) H. Matsui
3B) A. Rodriguez
DH) J. Giambi
C) J. Posada
1B) T. Martinez
CF) B. Williams
3/5: 2 doubles, first homerun of the year and 3 rbi....plus Alex will rob Giambi of an extra basehit.
Let's hope the Jays just keep it rolling and can string some base hits together here and there with 100% Halladay bred pitching.
Yet another reason to hate the Yankees...
I'm not entirely sure. To be honest I think they might want to give Rios a chance leading off. A plus .300 average and arguably the most speed on the team makes him the logical candidate if he contiunes to display little power...
Could have something to do with his .398 OBP vs LHP in 2004.
What makes him very much less than a logical candidate is his poor plate discipline. You want your leadoff hitter to be able to get on base. Even batting .321 coming into this game, his OBP was just .329.
It looked like an 0-2 fastball that went right down the middle.
And how about that - the only LH in the lineup comes through.
That's for sure. Spectacular glove work by Hudson, McDonald and Hillenbrand to complement the best of tonight's vaunted pitching matchups.
Live by little ball, die by little ball. Shame to erase the leadoff single, but Doc will take the two-run lead.It also looked like Sheffield thought he was going to catch it on the near edge of the track and drifted, thought about jumping, then it was 3 rows and a walkway deep. Good wind pattern for guys like Posada, Williams, and Matsui.
Doc's got a (slim) lead, despite Unit frankly being luckier.
Don't mean to sound pedantic, but I think it was a hanging slider. After getting two consecutive called strikes on the inner half of the plate, I think Johnson wanted to throw the slider low and away. Instead he threw a frisbee down the middle. I'm not sure Hinske pulls a Johnson fastball over the right field fence.
Pride comes before a fall. Thank Rios.
Don't forget Randy Johnson!
WOW. That was a wicked pitch to K A-Rod. I think I'm having as much fun as I've had this season watching a baseball game.
Mulder vs Hudson - both got roughed up in the first inning, and it's 4-4 in the 4th.
Greinke vs Sabathia - CC did his part, but not Zack. Indians are up 6-0 in the 6th.
Maddux vs Clemens - it's early, Cubs are up 2-1 in the 3rd.
Still to come - Webb vs Peavy.
I think if Doc needs to throw 130 pitches to finish this one, that's what we're going to see.
Every pitch in that A-Rod at-bat was wicked. (and a strike, just not a strike in New York)
But eh -- no harm, no foul. Doc's unflappable.
I hope it won't come to that. We might see Batista come up in the 9th regardless, but Halladay will probably start the 8th...
I agree. Batista can be the closer for everyone else. Let Halladay finish this one off himself.
Sheffield, Matsui and A-Rod will each get another chance up in the 8th or 9th. Not sure I'd want them going up against a tired Doc if I'm Gibbons. But we shall see.
Can just one be one too many Molinas? Perish the thought.
Brian Jordan's 2 run HR tied it for the Braves, for a 2 run shot by Pujols now has the Cards up 6-4.
That was the same exact pitch he got Jeter on before. Hoepfully the rest of the league is watching.
I don't think I would. I think I'd let Halladay go until he allows two guys to reach. It should be his game to win.
Good start to the 9th, hopefully the Jays can get some insurance.
and if we can tag a few more runs on this innings then the games Halladay's to complete even if a runner gets on...
What a great game.
I don't think so. A healthy Halladay is/will be replacing all those injured Halladay/Justin Miller starts. Having an Ace like Halladay stops those losing streaks and keeps the winning ones going. It is priceless.
Absolutely not. I say Doc starts the inning while Batista warms up. Doc has never shown fatigue after 100 pitches before. I can remember several games where he has pitched 115-125 pitches and still had great velocity/command. If things start to go wrong, go ahead and bring in Batista, but I don't want to see Shoey in this game.
Also working in Doc's favour is the quick pace of the game. We're just now hitting the two hour mark. If this had taken forty minutes longer than it has, maybe you go to the pen. But not yet.
At the same time, part of the reason (possibly) why Halladay had such a bad 2004 is because he hit a wall after being over worked in 2002 and 2003.
I don't expect to see the Unit drill the Dude next time around. RJ understands the effect he has on left-handed hitters - a foul ball is often a moral victory - and isn't likely to hold it against him.
What a masterpiece!
What a beautiful game. And Doc made it look so easy in the 9th.
Thats amazing, anybody wanna check last time both pitchers pitched complete games, with identical pitch counts (including strikes)
And sometimes he just relied on pure stuff, daring the Yankees to hang in and hit pitches in the strike zone but with tremendous movement.
Amazing!
Is there anyone better when he's on his game?
I'm not sure about this. Yes, Halladay pitched a ton of innings, but the reason he was able to do so is because he is so efficient. He only threw like 100 pitches each game. Remember that game where he went 10 and threw 99 pitches?
And, sorry if this lacks professionalism, but:
WOOO-HOOO!
Game of the year so far. At least, out of all the games I've seen.
But apparently since he didn't hit a homerun we have to send him to Syracuse.
Don't exaggerate. Nobody ever said that.
He went 3-0 for the Yankees in Spring Training as well.
And save for the homerun swing, Hinske was a deer in the headlights all night. Full credit to Hinske for the tater, but it was Johnson's own mistake that led to it.
And Tyler was sarcastically referencing to me. I told him of the possibility that Rios was going down when I saw it mentioned in a Jeff Blair article :)
You know, if The Dude doesn't hit that one out, we're still watching these guys pitch.
His career minor league stats: http://www.sports-wired.com/profiles/WA/tbc7386.asp
Quite so, old chap.
Rios stung the ball every trip, and even better, he pulled one pitch for a single and lined two others into centerfield. If he's finally gaining the confidence to attack the ball with authority, we could be watching something special unfolding here. You're going to see him batting 5th pretty soon at this rate.
One minor gripe only: asking players to do things at the plate they're not capable of doing is giving away outs. In 707 career games, Gregg Zaun has exactly 10 sacrifice bunts. He's clearly not good at it, and his popout in the 9th with two on and nobody out was entirely predictable. I know they were trying to avoid the double play, but it would still have been better to let him swing away.
The pitching matchups tomorrow and Sunday seemingly favour Toronto. Four in a row, keep it going.
Tonight's game was the best pitched game by any pitcher so far in 2005. Without question.
If Doc hadn't been feeling sick vs. Baltimore, he'd be 5-0 now, and the Jays wouldn't have had that five-game losing streak. I knew something was wrong that game, as he didn't have his stuff or his command. But he was awesome again tonight, and his teammates are as thrilled as we are.
Despite greenfrog's concern about their imperfections, this is a pretty nice club right now -- even without Wells and Koskie hitting. Those two figure to pick up the offensive slack when Hillenbrand and Zaun inevitably return to earth. It's been fun to watch them carry the offence, though, with some timely help from the Dude. Shea would have been a deserving AL Player of the Month, except for the incredible heroics of Brian Roberts. Remember that Zaun, admittedly no Juan Pierre as a bunter, does a lot of things well every night that don't show in a boxscore.
And would it be too much to ask for the Jays to rough up a young Yankee farmhand tommorow? Lord knows how many times the last 9 years the Jays have been just plain beaten by the Yanks on a weekend set and swept out of the water, often with the feeling that there was no way in hell the Jays could ever play with these guys. So lets get greedy and be ready to play from the first pitch, knock around the major league debut (Wong) and get our 5th straight!
Vernon Wells will come around. I know its concerning and frustrating to see this guy scuffling but its obvious he's going to start hitting the ball hard and I think, still have a great season.
Unfortunatley its only a matter of time before the Yankees get rolling too. Hopefully somehow, they can crap the bed so bad here in the near future and The Boss will do something really stupid to kill the season.
Johnson: 71
Halladay: 89 (highest so far in the AL this year.)
I'm still feeling the adrenaline from this win. I can't imagine how Halladay or Hinske would feel. :-D
Start with 50
minus 2 for each hit -6, 44
No runs allowed 44
one walk -1, 43
Nine K's +9, 52
27 outs, =27, 79
Five innings after the fourth +5*2=10, 89
89 for DOC
RJ
50 - 7*2 - 2 earned runs*4 - 3 walks + 9 K's + 27 outs + 10 IP = 71 points.
71 for RJ
Not double, but keep in mind Vernon Wells is no Mr. April. Not including today Vernon Wells' career average during April is .225 (89-396)
Tonight was that magic night:
2B: Johnson (2, Johnson)
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As for tonight's game, I picked up an extra shift at work tonight, so I could only periodically check in. My coworker Johnny Good Times finally informed me of Doc's CG, 3-hit affair. To which I answered, "Did he get the shutout?"
I missed a great one. One of Doc's all-time 5 greatest games (the Detroit one-hitter and 10-inning CG come to mind). This was a piece of sheer beauty.
NO COMPLAINING AFTER THE SHUTOUT VICTORY OVER THE YANKEES.
Hear hear! Welcome aboard, adore 50000. First post mojo, you picked a good night. And a little respect for TorontoDan, who called Rios' two hits.
W L GB Minnesota 14 8 -- Toronto 13 11 2 Seattle 12 11 2.5 Detroit 11 10 2.5 Texas 12 12 3 Boston 11 11 3 Oakland 11 12 3.5 Cleveland 9 13 5 Yankees 9 14 5.5
In my drunken, short term memory state, I'd have to say that that's the best April game I've ever seen. ever.
This team is really starting to get me excited.
Yes, it is double. Wells is at .198. Hillenbrand has .396.