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In their first roadtrip to the West Coast of the season the Jays debut against the Oakland A's, looking to extend their division lead.

Gustavo Chacin will face Kirk Saarloos in an interesting pitching matchup. Both pitchers are looking to duplicate strong performances in their first starts and solidy their claim to spots at the back of their respective rotations. It's strange to go to Oakland and realise that you won't have to face any of the Big Three.
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Joe - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 08:48 PM EDT (#110644) #
This whole series is available on Rogers Digital Cable; for me, in Waterloo, it's on channel 1, "Info," but there have been varying reports of it being on channel 42 or 57. Look for the channel which usually displays rotating ads and/or help for Rogers products.
greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 09:25 PM EDT (#110651) #
This really belongs in a different thread, but there's a nice mention in Baseball America's weekly Daily Dish about the Lansang affiliate and prospect Casey Janssen in particular:

"Lansing, the new low Class A affiliate of the Blue Jays, got off to a 4-0 start, highlighted by righty Casey Janssen's seven no-hit innings on Opening Night. Danny Hill, a 2004 third-round pick out of Missouri, picked up saves in three of the team's four victories. The victim of Lansing's hot start, the 0-4 Fort Wayne Wizards, have managed to score just 12 runs, but have not been without strong pitching performances of their own. Righthander Michael Eckstrom allowed just one hit over six shutout innings, but pitched against Janssen, while fellow righty Joel Santo allowed just three hits and one run over six innings on Saturday."
Jdog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 09:29 PM EDT (#110652) #
Question.

Does this mean that Chacin and Lilly are going to be following each other in the rotation? Back to back lefties, would it not be better to seperate them?
NickOfTime - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 09:37 PM EDT (#110653) #
Janssen is 23 which seems a bit old for that level (someone please tell me if I'm wrong though), but he is pitching well. He did a good job at Auburn last year in 50 innings over ten starts with 43SO, 10BB, and just two homers allowed. Baseball America ranked him as our No. 30 prospect coming into the season, but they talk pretty positively about some of his pitches...

1) 2-Seam Fastball: "89-92mpb... good command and sinking action."
2) Changeup: "fastball arm speed"
3) Curveball: "good rotation and spin"
4) Slider: ditto.
5) Cutter: no comment.

They also note that he "commands and mixes all of his pitches well."
iains - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 09:42 PM EDT (#110654) #
Jay's magic number: 156
Thomas - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 09:43 PM EDT (#110655) #
Lineups:

Kotsay
Byrnes
Kendall
Chavez
Kielty
Hatteberg
Ellis
Swisher
Scutaro
P: Saarloos
--
Catalanotto
Hudson
Wells
Koskie
Hillenbrand
Hinske
Rios
Zaun
Adams
P: Chacin

Pretty standard for both teams, given the injury to Crosby.
Flex - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 09:53 PM EDT (#110656) #
Jdog, I recall hearing something along the lines that Gibbons acknowledged it wouldn't be good to have them back to back for long, but would probably be that way in April.
King Ryan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 09:58 PM EDT (#110657) #
Is this Digital Cable thingie only available to you Ontarian folk? I can't find it on my digital channels.
fozzy - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:02 PM EDT (#110658) #
nice job Joe! It's on channel 1 for us digital subscribers in Ottawa as well.

My girlfriend, on the other hand, is less than impressed :)
mistermike - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:02 PM EDT (#110659) #
"Interesting" tidbit: Warren Sawkiw just claimed his nickname during his playing days was the "Q-Dog".
Thomas - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:04 PM EDT (#110660) #
See, I'd think that would be a somewhat amusing joke, but I'm just not sure with Sawkiw.
Brian W - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:13 PM EDT (#110661) #
At least for now, the game is available online at The Fan 960 in Calgary
Thomas - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:18 PM EDT (#110663) #
Thanks, Brian.
Magpie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:19 PM EDT (#110664) #
DUDE!

Gosh. I thought he'd be better, but this was not expected.

greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:23 PM EDT (#110665) #
Dude--I am really impressed.
Dr. Zarco - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:25 PM EDT (#110667) #
Boy, Hinske has had about as many 2-out RBI this year already in 6+ games as he had all of last year. How fun to watch!
greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:26 PM EDT (#110668) #
And the first six hitters making Saarloos throw 30 pitches in inning #1--also impressive.
forest fest - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:26 PM EDT (#110669) #
Question for someone with the TV feed, or someone who saw Chacin's last start:

When Chacin pitches, does he actually wear the goggles he has on in his MLB Gameday photo?
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:27 PM EDT (#110670) #
Chacin still has that little hitch going on.

Has he ever been called for a balk, or does he drop the hitch when he's pitching from the stretch?

Also:

- Swisher's diving catch on Rios looked completely graceless
- Hudson should be signed for the next 4 years; his defense is that good...

greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:27 PM EDT (#110671) #
Sorry, make that the first seven hitters. Still impressive.
Dr. Zarco - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:27 PM EDT (#110672) #
Yes.
VBF - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:28 PM EDT (#110673) #
That was a good piece of hitting by Hinske. It could've been a pitch that he would have struck out at last year but he tracked it and didn't try to pull it.

Nice Job.

And yes, Chacin does wear the goggles when he plays although they might be a little different. His goggles appear less shaded on television.
DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:30 PM EDT (#110675) #
Jacko, while I agree about Hudson's defense, that play he made on Byrnes was pretty average. Byrnes hit a little looper and all he had to do was go into shallow center and make the play.

Pretty much every 2nd basemen NOT named Bellhorn would have made that play fairly routinely.

But yeah, O-Dog rocks.
Named For Hank - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:31 PM EDT (#110676) #
I had this little feeling in my gut that Hinske would be great this year. And for some reason, when I was sorting my game photographs from Saturday I found out that over 10% of the images are of Eric Hinske. Second most photographed player: Corey Koskie. Third most photographed player: David Wells, looking sad.
uglyone - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:31 PM EDT (#110677) #
nice start.

dude keeps on going - that was some smart, patient hitting taking that outside pitch and plopping it into left.

nice start for Chacin, despite that swing by the hot hitting Kotsay. Kendall hit a good pitch there.
DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#110678) #
19 pitches for Gustavo through 1. 14 of them for strikes. That's a very good ratio compared to his last few outings, both regular season and spring.
Matthew E - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:35 PM EDT (#110679) #
Not Saarloos's night so far.
DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:36 PM EDT (#110680) #
Very good AB by Zaun. Falls behind 0-2 but Saarloos won't overpower you so he just lays off the soft stuff and then goes opposite field for a single.

Then Adams follows it up with a looping double down the right field line. 2nd and 3rd no out. I really love Adams, I feel he'll be a fine ballplayer. Especially when it comes to hitting.

Loving the Jays approach at the plate tonight.

LOVING IT EVEN MORE AS AS I TYPE CAT TRIPLES IN ZAUN AND ADAMS!!!

4-0 Jays!
greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:36 PM EDT (#110681) #
All right Russ!
joemayo - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:36 PM EDT (#110682) #
Pretty much every 2nd basemen NOT named Bellhorn would have made that play fairly routinely

that's odd. Jerry was uber excited when hudson made that catch ... made it sound like a gold glove type play

as for chacin's delivery, he makes a little studder step, but i heard the umps all know that it's a part of his natural delivery and so will not be calling any balks.

cat 2 run triple!! ohh the offense...

greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:37 PM EDT (#110683) #
All right Cat!!!
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:37 PM EDT (#110684) #
A few other random things:

The A's advertising is _great_. The Zito "movement" commercial was hilarious. And even their corny "rally cap" ad was pretty nicely done.

And I must say, the Super Sports Pack is well worth the price of admission. Sometimes the cable feed they pick up has no commericials on it, and you end up hearing some pretty funny off-air comments, and seeing a whole whack of VTR fast-forwards and rewinds.
DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:38 PM EDT (#110685) #
Yeah, I'm watching the game on Extra Innings.

It wasn't that amazing of a play.
King Ryan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:38 PM EDT (#110686) #
Ahhh, watching a baseball game on MLB GameDay can be uniquely fun.

There's just nothing like the feeling you get when you see:

Pitch 2 - In play, run-scoring play.

:)
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:39 PM EDT (#110687) #
Does Chacin have a nickname yet?

He looks like a robot with those shades.

Cyborg? Robocop?
JaysNJets - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:41 PM EDT (#110688) #
What's up with Saarloos tonight? Coming off of a real solid outing last time versus Baltimore, one would expect a good start tonight. Is his stuff just flat, or are the Jays hitting good pitches? Sorry to ask, but I am forced to listen to the radio for coverage, so its difficult to judge from the audio broadcast.
DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:42 PM EDT (#110689) #
Morpheus would be a good one, although I like the RoboCop reference as well.

I love the shades, and with him and League the Jays have two of the coolest looking pitchers in the game on the same team!

Although neither is the amazingly odd Ben Weber...
forest fest - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:44 PM EDT (#110690) #
I'm with you all the way King Ryan!

Not having acces to a tv, I've come to live off gameday and recreating the drama of all the bland comments and dots on the hit and out placement chart in my head.

For free, it's on heck of a way to take in a ballgame.
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:45 PM EDT (#110691) #
Morpheus -- that sounds promising.

Maybe the Jays can get a shot of him in a full length leather trenchcoat for the next series of ads :)

JaysVision presents: The Matrix

joemayo - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:45 PM EDT (#110692) #
Does Chacin have a nickname yet?

how about 'Ugly'? he is a weird looking dude...

Magpie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:46 PM EDT (#110693) #
Does Chacin have a nickname yet?

Gus the Polar Bear! No one is afraid enough.

At this rate, the Jays will be loose in the Oakland bullpen pretty soon. It's built for depth - there's a lot of good arms down there - but it's still, you know, Mission Accomplished. Especially in the first game of three.

By the way, was Mariano Rivera cool at Fenway today or what? They gave him a standing O for blowing the save - he smiles, and tips his cap.

Kieran - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:46 PM EDT (#110694) #
I know it's only a week, but cheering for a winning team beats making excuses for a losing one.
TorontoDan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:46 PM EDT (#110695) #
This is the time I've used Gameday, and it's fantastic. For a free web applet it does an amazing job. I love the pitch location icons and the dots that appear to show where the ball was put into play. Great stuff. With that said.....two more outs until we're up again. :)
R Billie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:47 PM EDT (#110696) #
Chacin is still leaving his pitches up up thigh high or belt high. Particularly his fastball which is not good as he doesn't have a lot of velocity on it.

Kielty hit that ball hard and Hatteberg doubled. Kotsay drove the ball to the track in the first.
Dr. Phil - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:48 PM EDT (#110697) #
Just in case there are any other jays fans from NB the game is being shown on channel 400 if you have rogers digital cable, I just spent 30 minutes flicking through 399 stations to find it but now I have three nights of free entertainment, or at least I hope so. Enjoy
uglyone - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:48 PM EDT (#110699) #
gusto
King Ryan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:49 PM EDT (#110701) #
I second "Morpheus," although I'm not that big on nicknames.
Kieran - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:50 PM EDT (#110702) #
Gameday is significantly ahead of the Fan 960 feed!
R Billie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:54 PM EDT (#110703) #
There's the difference Koskie makes at third. He got that throw away very quickly to Hudson who makes a great turn ahead of the sliding runner and they turn a DP to get Chacin out of the jam.
DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:54 PM EDT (#110704) #
Wow, the Jays infield defense looks great. That double play they just turned looked so crisp, you'd think it was midseason already.

I don't think we realize yet how lucky we are to hopefully (knock on wood) get to see a whole summer's worth of Koskie and Hudson on D in Jays uni's.
Kyoung - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:54 PM EDT (#110705) #
Hudson does it again. I don't know why JP didn't give him multi year contract yet.
VBF - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:55 PM EDT (#110706) #
How about this for a nickname?

The Venezuelan Voltameter

Sorry, it's the best I could do. I'm a little tired.

uglyone - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:55 PM EDT (#110707) #
we're going to be the double play kings this year.

I love this defense.
greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:57 PM EDT (#110708) #
I'm doing the gameday thing too, checking it intermittently while I work on an assignment. For the next-best-thing, it's pretty good.
Matthew E - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 10:59 PM EDT (#110709) #
How about we call him 'Chacin'?

It's easy to remember, it makes you think of the guy himself, and it doesn't make us sound like a bunch of jerks.
R Billie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:03 PM EDT (#110711) #
Another hard hit out. Maybe Gustavo is pitching to the score?
TorontoDan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:03 PM EDT (#110712) #
I second that movement. Chacin works fine.
CeeBee - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:12 PM EDT (#110714) #
I agree that we really don't need to get carried away with nicknames. Chacin works for me as do most players names.
uglyone - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:12 PM EDT (#110716) #
fancy fielding by Byrnes there.

and look at that SMALLBALL!
binnister - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:13 PM EDT (#110717) #
Don't be a spoil sport...nicknames are fun :)

How about "The Ma-Chacin"?
JaysNJets - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:13 PM EDT (#110718) #
Just heard a note on the radio that made me chuckle. I realize its early but the top three hitting teams (in terms of BA) in the AL are:

Detroit
Kansas City
Toronto

Interesting, and quite unexpected. Wonder how long it will take the Red Sox/Yankees/Rangers et. al. to catch up?
Joseph Krengel - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:13 PM EDT (#110719) #
The best thing I've seen (or rather heard) so far this game is that Catalanotto was able to leg out a triple with no limping, and without coming out of the game. If he is really over his hip and groin problems he'll be worth every penny at the top of that lineup.
Craig B - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:14 PM EDT (#110720) #
like a bunch of jerks

Yeah, giving a ballplayer a nickname is really, really mean. They certainly never do it themselves.

In fact, I'ma gonna call you "Strong Sad" from now on, Matthew, just to be a jerk. :)

By the way, I like "Morpheus" if he hangs on to those shades through the summer - I hope he does. For now, though, I suppose just "Chacin" will have to do most of the time!

VBF - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:15 PM EDT (#110721) #
Yea, despite my poor nomination of a nickname Matt.E. has it right.

I really hope the Jays don't sit on this lead. If they can just scratch out a couple runs here and there it would keep Oakland down.

The A's will start pecking at this lead if the Jays can't keep their floodgates open. Now is the time for some small ball.
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:15 PM EDT (#110722) #
no need to bring in the fun police.

what's wrong with coming up with nicknames?
uglyone - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:16 PM EDT (#110723) #
that's right, Shea - don't take that crap from them.

iains - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:16 PM EDT (#110724) #
Intentionally walking Koskie to get to Hillenbrand? What's that all about?
Mike D - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:16 PM EDT (#110725) #
Shea makes 'em pay!
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:17 PM EDT (#110726) #
Nice double by "Chez" :)
R Billie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:17 PM EDT (#110727) #
Koskie gets walked intentionally so that they can have Saarloos face Hillenbrand the righty. But it doesn't matter much when the pitcher doesn't have much command. Shea ropes a double to the wall to put the Jays up 6-0 and finally chase the starter.
iains - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:18 PM EDT (#110728) #
Obviously a poor choice on Sarloos part
robertdudek - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:19 PM EDT (#110729) #
Bad location, specifically, too many pitches up in the hitting zone (i.e. not on the edges of the zone).

Saarloos has below average stuff for a major leaguer, though he does get decent movement on all his pitches. But if he doesn't have pinpoint control or isn't getting lucky on hard hit balls, it's almost guaranteed he'll have a rough outing.
Matthew E - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:20 PM EDT (#110730) #
Sorry if I'm peeing on anybody's campfire with this nickname thing. I just can't help thinking of that Saturday Night Live sketch about the Mr. Belvedere fan club. Anybody want to call Chacin 'Brocktoon'?
Cristian - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:20 PM EDT (#110731) #
The Shea-Hey Kid comes through again. Maybe there is something to mixing batters with different hitting approaches into the same lineup. Contact hitter/patient hitter can be the new lefty/righty.
Kieran - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:23 PM EDT (#110732) #
These West Coast games are going to make getting up for work all the more difficult.
R Billie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:24 PM EDT (#110733) #
Chacin has a horseshoe in his back pocket tonight. He hasn't thrown many quality pitches but he's pitching a shutout so far.
King Ryan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:25 PM EDT (#110734) #
Did Koskie just try to steal home?

Help us GameDayers out.
DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:25 PM EDT (#110735) #
Fine play by Russ Adams. He has very good range, and on plays where he doesn't have to think he usually makes strong, accurate throws.

It's those routine grounders where he has time to think and throw where most his errors come/will come.

Bad luck on the wild pitch play. The ball bounced right back to Kendall and Koskie was toast at the plate.
MatO - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:25 PM EDT (#110736) #
The RH junk that Saarloos has reminds me of Mike Boddicker (sp?). If you don't have pinpoint control you're done.
Kieran - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:26 PM EDT (#110737) #
Koskie attempted to come home on a wild pitch/passed ball, he was thrown out at the plate.

...re: the placement of the horseshoe, is the back pocket the preferred new location? All that discomfort I have been going through may hame been unnecessary...
iains - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:27 PM EDT (#110738) #
Oh, and I gave Chacin his nickname last year ... "Chacin the Dream"
DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:27 PM EDT (#110739) #
Ryan, no... Koskie did not try to steal home. Although that would be one funny sight :)

What happened was Cruz uncorked a wild pitch and Koskie took off for home. The ball bounced off the backstop and right back to Jason Kendall who turned and flipped it to Cruz who covered home and tagged out Koskie to get the final out of the inning.
Kieran - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:28 PM EDT (#110740) #
Chacin has been giving up a number of hard hit balls, but has been fortunate that they are being turned into outs.

He has given up 8 fly outs to 4 ground outs and has yet to strike out or walk a batter.
greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:29 PM EDT (#110741) #
Chacin has been very consistent against a patient A's lineup, averaging about 16-17 pitches per inning.
King Ryan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:31 PM EDT (#110742) #
Thanks Dave and Kieran. I was confuzzled when I saw, on a 1-1 pitch "Corey Koskie out at home, catcher Jason Kendall to pitcher Juan Cruz."

R Billie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:33 PM EDT (#110743) #
Rios was robbed of a hit in the first and draws a walk here against Cruz. I like how he's looking at the plate so far.
uglyone - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:35 PM EDT (#110744) #
They've been getting some decent cuts at Chacin, but against a high-contact, low-power team, throwing strikes and keeping them off balance is probably a good game plan.

Pretty impressive that he hasn't walked any of them (few 3 ball counts as well), considering how much they love to work pitchers for BBs in oakland.
Kieran - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:38 PM EDT (#110745) #
King Ryan, dial up fan960.com and listen to the game there. You'll get a good compliment to the GameCast experience.
Mark J - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:38 PM EDT (#110746) #
Just a note re. Extra Innings (this is my second year with it and it rules), it's cheaper to get the Super Sports "Pak" at $25 a month for six months than Extra Innings by itself at $160 for the season. Plus, you'll get some OHL playoffs in April and NFL and NCAA football in September.
Craig B - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:39 PM EDT (#110747) #
I just can't help thinking of that Saturday Night Live sketch about the Mr. Belvedere fan club.

Ten million points and a cuttlefish for being hilarious.

I am enjoying this game *immensely*.

robertdudek - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:40 PM EDT (#110748) #
Chacin has, rightly, been pounding the strike zone (with a lead against a patient team, this is a must). Sure, it has resulted in some hard hit balls, but remember about 70% of balls in play are turned into outs. The A's are a contact hitting club, tough to strikeout.

Key stats for Chacin today: no walks, no homeruns.

King Ryan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:41 PM EDT (#110749) #
King Ryan, dial up fan960.com and listen to the game there. You'll get a good compliment to the GameCast experience

Not a bad idea, but in twenty minutes I have to go watch 24. No offense to the Jays announcers, but I'd rather listen to Jack Bauer. :)

TorontoDan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:42 PM EDT (#110750) #
Kieran, I tried that, only problem is that the radio feed isn't as quick as GameCast, but it's good if you're content with hearing the news 10 seconds or so later than GameCast
Craig B - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:46 PM EDT (#110751) #
I don't want to alarm anyone,

and small sample warnings are plastered all over this,

but Russ Adams has a career OPS of .930 right now,

better than Scott Rolen, Sammy Sosa, Gary Sheffield, or Jim Edmonds.
jsoh - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:47 PM EDT (#110752) #
I absolutely love the way that Chacin is opening up with first pitch strikes. Just lovin' it.

That is all.
Joseph Krengel - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:49 PM EDT (#110753) #
COming up with an endless list of nicknames doesn't make anyone a jerk, but it is annoying for some people (like myself) who like to think of players by their actual names. I've always been of the mind that players EARNED nicknames; and preferably from their feats on the field. That gives us a REASON to use that name, it has meaning that actually makes it more significant than their actual name. (With "Chocolate Thunder" and "Hard Hittin' Mark Whitten" being my only exceptions.)

Reed Johnson is sparky because he is/was the team's sparkplug.

Catalanotto is the Cat both for his name AND for his reflexes and contact ability.

The "Doc" gets his name from, well, his name, but also because of his control, precision and skill... etc.
King Ryan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:50 PM EDT (#110754) #
Is Adams eligible for ROY? Just curious. :)
Craig B - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:51 PM EDT (#110755) #
Whoo! Kotsay swings through the high one.

Through five innings:

Oakland pitchers 110 pitches, 58 strikes
Gustavo Chacin 79 pitches, 54 strikes

There's your ballgame summary, right there.
jsoh - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:51 PM EDT (#110756) #
Heh. Chavez has been taking fielding lessons from me. I pull that same stunt at least twice a month :)
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:52 PM EDT (#110757) #
Just a note re. Extra Innings (this is my second year with it and it rules), it's cheaper to get the Super Sports "Pak" at $25 a month for six months than Extra Innings by itself at $160 for the season. Plus, you'll get some OHL playoffs in April and NFL and NCAA football in September.

I've only had it since last Thursday, and I'm already addicted. Given that I watch NFL as well, $25/month is a fair price for getting more or less _every_ football and baseball game.

Note to Chavez: don't forget to bend at the knees when reaching for a ground ball!

Craig B - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:52 PM EDT (#110758) #
Yes, Adams is rookie-eligible.
R Billie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:53 PM EDT (#110759) #
Hinske can do no wrong right now. Third hit of the night.
Ron - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:55 PM EDT (#110760) #
Hinske leads the AL in RBI's now.

It looks like he's been eating his Wheaties. I don't even recognize him anymore.
greenfrog - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:55 PM EDT (#110761) #
Hinske is doing his best Ichiro imitation. Please, nobody wake him up. Thank you.
Ron - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:55 PM EDT (#110762) #
Hinske leads the AL in RBI's now.

It looks like he's been eating his Wheaties. I don't even recognize him anymore.
Kieran - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:55 PM EDT (#110763) #
The Jays have 8 runs despite no HRs. They have 5 3Bs in 7 games thus far this season. Tonight, they have 5 BBs to 2 Ks. Very impressive stats.

I know, only a week...but still!
robertdudek - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:55 PM EDT (#110764) #
I'm very impressed with Rios'approach at the plate. He doesn't strike out a lot, which is something that a lot of young hitters have to overcome, so the patience he's shown makes it highly likely he'll succeed as a major lague hitter (as long as he keeps it up, of course).
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:56 PM EDT (#110765) #
Joe:

And sometimes nicknames are just plain random and funny.

After opening day at the Hard Rock, I'm going to be calling Batista "Strikey" as long as he is Jay :)

jsoh - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:56 PM EDT (#110766) #
Go-go Rios! Nice job of fighting that pitch off.
TorontoDan - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:56 PM EDT (#110767) #
This hitting has been amazing. Let's just keep the flow going here...
Dave Till - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:57 PM EDT (#110768) #
I have no idea how long this is going to last, but it's great fun. Especially after last year.

The best part is that a good early start breeds more confidence, which may lead to more success. Yummy!
R Billie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:57 PM EDT (#110769) #
Rios is rewarded with a hit for the fine at bats he's had today. That pitch was belt high and in on his hands and he hit it sharply through the right side with an inside out swing.
Magpie - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:59 PM EDT (#110770) #
Ten million points and a cuttlefish for being hilarious.

Cuttlefish?! He was complaining, sort of.

I've never been awarded a cuttlefish. And it's made me a bitter old man.

I would expect that we're going to have to see some of Calero and Street and Bradford, just to get Macha through the end of the game. (For those of you can actually see the game, and aren't doing some sort of GameDay Fan590 combo, like myself.)

On the one hand, one would like to save some of these runs for an occasion when we might need a couple. But on the other hand, beating the other fellow senseless is always a sign of quality.

DaveInNYC - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:59 PM EDT (#110771) #
And Gustavo Chacin is Morpheus because he looks like Morpheus from the Matrix.

Please, nicknames are fun. And that's what makes baseball so great, is that it's a fun game where nicknames get thrown around more than in any other sport.
Jacko - Monday, April 11 2005 @ 11:59 PM EDT (#110772) #
Woo!

I get to see Huston Street pitch. I'd like to know if all the hype (and his $15 price in my auction) is justified by actual performance.

If he pitches well, there's pretty good odds that Dotel will be gone by the trading deadline.

And wow, what is it with the A's outfielders? Swisher just uncorked a total rainbow from RF...

uglyone - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:01 AM EDT (#110773) #
Anyone else seeing Hinske's improved hitting as a direct result of his higher, and thus quicker hands....he really seems to be getting wood on hard inside pitches that would have been strikeouts last year.
Kieran - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:02 AM EDT (#110774) #
Twice now, the Jays have successfully tagged up on relatively shallow fly balls to score.

This goes to show that quote-unquote SmallBall (TM) can manifest itself in many ways...
R Billie - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:02 AM EDT (#110775) #
Byrnes finally found a way to get a hit on a hard hit ball. Hit one over the left field fence.
jsoh - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:03 AM EDT (#110776) #
K. I love the first pitch strikes riiiiiiight up to the point they get deposited into the bleachers.

He's given up a run! Yank the bum!

:)
James W - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:04 AM EDT (#110777) #
uglyone - I couldn't agree more about Hinske. The new stance appears to have given Eric more time at the plate. Every split second that he can wait on a pitch makes a huge difference, and he's taken advantage of it thus far.
Magpie - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:07 AM EDT (#110778) #
Anyone else seeing Hinske's improved hitting as a direct result of his higher, and thus quicker hands....he really seems to be getting wood on hard inside pitches that would have been strikeouts last year.

Apparently Mike Barnett visited Hinske in the off-season with video from his rookie year, and his hand position had changed since then (and it probably started with the injury.)

Gus almost at 100 pitches - who's the first guy out of the pen? I vote for Vinnie, my own self.

greenfrog - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:08 AM EDT (#110779) #
I'm guessing that this inning is it for Gustavo. I hope he gets out of it with just the one run against.
Craig B - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:09 AM EDT (#110780) #
Anyone else seeing Hinske's improved hitting as a direct result of his higher, and thus quicker hands....

Not quick hands, IMO. Hinske's changed stance results in him keeping his weight much further back, giving him more time to react to the pitch. Pitchers who have grown accustomed to pitching Hinske backwards are finding that he can stay back and pummel any slop he sees for base hits. He's not a guess hitter anymore; the changed stance (with the higher hands along with it) mean he doesn't have to take meaty fastballs for strikes, because he doesn't have to look offspeed; he can look fastball and successfully adjust to the offspeed pitch, like most major league hitters do.

jsoh - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:10 AM EDT (#110781) #
I like this. In a 10-2 game, let Chacin see one more guy to try to get out of the mess that he's in...

and as I say that, he's out of it.

Good on Gibby.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:10 AM EDT (#110782) #
very nice vote of confidence from the Gibber there!

With that big lead, that's a risk worth taking to make a rookie pitcher feel better about himself by finishing off the inning.

I really like the Gibber.
Craig B - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:11 AM EDT (#110783) #
Nice job kid, hit the showers.
Ron - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:11 AM EDT (#110784) #
Since there's a good chance Gus is done with 100 pitches, I have to say it was another excellent start for Chacin.

He's proving ST doesn't mean squat ... well at least for himself.

He's proving he belongs in the Majors.
Magpie - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:12 AM EDT (#110785) #
Every split second that he can wait on a pitch makes a huge difference

There's that, and it is a big deal; in addition his swing now seems to have found an internal rhythm. Last year what his arms and hands were doing seemed disconnected from what his lower body was doing. He was striding and swinging, but the stride and swing weren't a unified whole. So he was effectively hitting with just his arms, and a bit off balance.

Not so much anymore.

Craig B - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:14 AM EDT (#110787) #
Making this game even sweeter is that Zaunie, Rios, and Adams are all in the lineup tonight for my roto team. I need to get some more Jays on that team...
Justin (T-Birds) - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:16 AM EDT (#110788) #
Another improvement with Hinske this year is that his front shoulder is staying tucked in throughout his swing. Last year he seemed to be flying open and lunging without a whole lot of power. This year he's staying in a lot longer - a great example was his homerun off of Embree (I think it was Embree at least); there's no way he hits that last year.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:18 AM EDT (#110790) #
If his improved hitting is really the result of a solid techinical adjustment, as it looks so far, then all of a sudden we should really question trading him.

Of course, it could still be just a fluky streak.
jsoh - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:22 AM EDT (#110791) #
Chulkamania!

Nice pitch to K Scutaro.
H Winfield Teut - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:29 AM EDT (#110792) #
as for nicknames......keep the fun coming, its the internet for crying out loud, look at the roll call.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:29 AM EDT (#110793) #
"The Man With the Gold Glove" is the only Jays hitter (starter, that is) without a hit.
Magpie - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:32 AM EDT (#110794) #
The lads at Athletics Nation are not having as much fun at the Home Opener as they were hoping to have:

Watching other teams batting makes it seem like scoring runs is so easy to do.

Damn you, JP! Where's the love?

Is Saarloos trying to make Zito feel better?

And they're calling Gus "The Fly"

jsoh - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:33 AM EDT (#110795) #
This Street kid. He seems to be good.
Flex - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:35 AM EDT (#110796) #
A bit off topic, but Jerry Howarth is killing me with his "not"s. "The Oakland A's are having fun ... nooot." Jerry, please, don't try to be cool.
Jacko - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:36 AM EDT (#110797) #
Wow.

Nice inning by Street.

Though the called 3rd strike on Chez Hilly looked a tad low.

Got Hinske on a _nasty_ breaking pitch...



uglyone - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:39 AM EDT (#110798) #
has Russ made an error yet this year?

his arm has looked plenty strong tonight.

That Squeegee kid made some sick pitches there, BTW.
jsoh - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:47 AM EDT (#110799) #
Wow. Zaun is slow. He had a huge head off of first, and still got nailed by a good 3 feet.

Thats the second out tonite trying to advance on a wild pitch. The first one was kinda unlucky. That second one by Zaun.. that one strikes me as "what are you thinking"
Nolan - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:52 AM EDT (#110800) #
I really thought, before the season began, that the Jays would basically follow Vernon Wells' lead. If Wells was on a hot streak, the Jays would win the majority of their games and during cold streaks for Vernon, the Jays would similarily suffer.

However it seems that I am totally off. Vernon is by no means in a slump, but he's not exactly been on a hot streak so far this year. The lineup is proving to be a lot deeper than I thought it would.

Yes, it has only been 6 games, but....
uglyone - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 12:57 AM EDT (#110801) #
nice start to the road trip.

1st place in MLB.

Best offense in MLB.
R Billie - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 01:02 AM EDT (#110802) #
Speier isn't looking sharp. Velocity is high 80's instead of low 90's and his control isn't too good with the slider. Looks like he has some work to do to get into form.

They're swinging the bats well and Saarloos was terrible tonight. Cruz was only a little bit better. Once Street and Yabu got in the game the Jays were pretty much shut down.

Tomorrow will be tougher as Towers takes on Haren, a good young arm. It's nice that the Jays were able to use the pen on their own terms today and give Schoenweiss some much needed rest.

The A's on the other hand had to use up Cruz and Street though Street only needed 25 pitches to get through 2 innings. He looked great. Yabu was decent as well. The A's have a nice pen.
Ron - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 01:07 AM EDT (#110803) #
Looks like Wilner is ignoring Burrell.

He just said Hinske leads the major leagues in RBI's.
Craig B - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 01:14 AM EDT (#110804) #
The Jays made Oakland throw 181 pitches today. Excellent.
Nolan - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 01:37 AM EDT (#110805) #
Yesterday I asked about the Jays' attendance for their home opener series and figured that the fall off in attendance over games 2 and 3 was a bit unusual (and was promptly corrected about that notion...).

Well, The Phillies had a pretty steep fall off for their second home game of the year. In fact, they set a record for their lowest attendance ever in Citizens Bank Park with 23,435. The next day only 21,693 showed.

By the way, Tampa Bays' second home game brought in only 9,144 people to watch. Ugh.
Mick Doherty - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 01:55 AM EDT (#110806) #
From the game story on ESPN.com:

"The Blue Jays' powerful lineup clobbered right-hander Kirk Saarloos (1-1) in a hurry, getting four runs and six hits in the first two innings." [Emphasis added]

What odds would we have gotten on someone writing that phrase any time in 2005 oh, 10 days ago?

NickOfTime - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 02:00 AM EDT (#110807) #
Some more comments on tonight's game...

1) Koskie was very patient again, taking two walks and seeing a lot of pitches in most of his at-bats. He hit a single in the first inning two on a rocket liner up the middle past Ellis.

2) Eric "The Dude" Hinske went 3-for-5, bringing his average up to .417 on the year. He displayed impressive bat control on a couple of the hits, driving down-and-away sinkers the other way when the old Hinske would have tried (and failed) to pull them. This isn't just a hot streak, he is a different hitter this year.

3) "F-Cat" enjoyed a stellar game as well, going 2-for-4 with a triple. He's a great guy to have out there against righty pitching. His replacement, Johnson, didn't have an at-bat and was brought in as a defensive substitution and to give Catalanatto some rest. The move was also probably made to keep him fresh because he might not see any other action for the rest of the series with Oakland sending out two more righties to start games two and three.

4) I was impressed with (most of) Rios' hitting too. He could have easily gone 3-for-4 if not for a pair of nice defensive plays by Nick Swisher and Eric Chavez. The only bad appearance at the plate he had was his final one where he swung at a very low splitter for strike three that he probably should have seen coming by the rotation on the ball (splitters aren't hard for major league hitters to pick up usually and it started out low anyway). However, he did take two pitches and foul off another one so it wasn't an awful at-bat, just one bad swing really.

5) Our defense looks really sharp. They really helped Chacin out today...

6) ... because he wasn't actually nearly as effective as his hits and runs allowed numbers would lead you to believe. He displayed good control, walking just one batter and throwing 67 of his 100 pitches for strikes, but he allowed a home run and a double on two lousy pitches and his ground out to fly out ratio was only 6-to-8. He did wind up striking out four guys, but he didn't have his first one until the fifth inning. There were a lot of balls in the first four innings that Blue Jays fielders did a nice job getting to and they turned two double plays in the game. All in all, he wasn't bad, but the scary thing for our opposition has to be that he can pitch better than this.

7) Vinnie Chulk continued his strong pitching by notching one strikeout and one walk with no hits allowed over two innings. He only faced six batters because Bobby Kielty grounded into a double play in the eighth to end the inning.

9) Justin Speier continued his poor play, walking one and then allowing a run-scoring double in his only inning of work. I have faith he'll come around, but I hope he doesn't wait as long as he did last year to do so.

All in all it was a great game for Blue Jays fans. Tomorrow the Jays send out Josh Towers to face Danny Haren in the second phase of the three game set.
Parker - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 02:10 AM EDT (#110808) #
Regarding nicknames:

Since his callup last season, my baseball buddies and I have been calling Chacin either "Chachi" or "Chotchky", mainly because it's a goofy play on his name. I'm not a big fan of the Matrix/RoboCop/Transformers-themed nicknames suggested for him, but that's just my opinion.

Also, we've been using "Ricky" for Eric Hinske for the last couple seasons, because he bears an almost uncanny resemblance to the character from the Trailer Park Boys series. I wonder if Hinske and Robb Wells ran into each other at all during the home opener, or if they were mysteriously never seen together, like Superman and Clark Kent.
Michael - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 02:19 AM EDT (#110809) #
I'm in the bay area so I watched the local A's coverage of the game. Here are my observations:

1. Nice lineup and hitting by the Jays top to bottom. No one looked foolish generally. They were selective in which pitches to swing at, and were willing to take what the pitchers were willing to give them.

2. I liked the speed use today. Good smart hit and running and tagging up adding real value.

3. Chacin's hitch from the windup is really offputting to me as the viewer. I don't think he does it from the stretch. But other than his hitch I thought he pitched very well (about 2/3 pitches were for strikes). And I thought he showed good awareness in fielding to pocket the groundball that was off his glove rather than try to make the off balance bang-bang throw to first.

4. The infield defense seemed really good tonight. Everyone made great plays from Koskie and Hudson on the double plays, Adams with the strong arm, and Hinske with good extention and stretching at first.

5. I didn't think Sarloos pitched that poorly tonight. I thought he had good movement and changes of speed. If anything he had a little too much movement on his pitches taking some out of the zone. But often the Jays hits were on balls that Sarloos had hit his location (at least from what you could tell of Kendall's glove position), but were just well hit. So I thought it was more a case of ok pitching meeting superior hitting than bad pitching.

6. The A's really are a fun organization thought. And the Zito as the old guy pitcher ads were terrific. I love the closing "Wow, 26. Do you think he pitched to the Babe?" line.
NickOfTime - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 02:27 AM EDT (#110810) #
Yeah, the A's and Mariners always seem to have the best TV spots. I watched all of the ads for all of the teams earlier today. Minnesotta has some great radio ads too.
Pistol - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 09:43 AM EDT (#110816) #
"This Street kid. He seems to be good."

Yeah, that was pretty impressive last night (this morning?). Maybe JP can talk Beane into making him the closer and trading Dotel to the Jays.

Maybe this has been around, but I just found it. You can look at all of the ABs of each player in a game, and also look at them cumulatively. So you can see who's swinging at strikes, etc.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/gamechart/MLB_20050411_TOR@OAK
jsoh - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 10:11 AM EDT (#110819) #
Maybe JP can talk Beane into making him the closer and trading Dotel to the Jays.

I know! How about Kurt Isenberg for Dotel! Thats a sooper fair deal for the A's!

*ducks*

Arms Longfellow - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 10:17 AM EDT (#110821) #
"Also, we've been using "Ricky" for Eric Hinske for the last couple seasons, because he bears an almost uncanny resemblance to the character from the Trailer Park Boys series."

Terry Adams looked way more like Ricky than Hinske does.

"Does Chacin have a nickname yet?"

"how about 'Ugly'? he is a weird looking dude..."

I tried not to laugh at this, but I did, oh man.

Chuck - Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 11:13 AM EDT (#110827) #
So you can see who's swinging at strikes, etc.

All they're missing is one piece of information: on strikes in the strike zone, were they swinging or called?

The rest of the information is nice to see, especially the "cumulative". I am most interested in seeing how often certain players swing at balls out of the strike zone. A sign of the groove that Hinske is in: not a single swinging strike at a ball out of the strike zone.

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