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It's the penultimate home game of the Spring today. The Yankees visit with Jaret Wright on the mound, the Jays send out David Bush. Kerry Ligtenberg, Vinnie Chulk and Justin Miller are also expected to pitch according to Dr Fence.
This one is on the mlb.com, anyone know if there is a free webcast anywhere ?
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dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:14 PM EST (#107720) #
sierra three-run HR in top of first.
jsut - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:15 PM EST (#107721) #
yahoo boxscore.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=250328114

3-0 NYY in the first. Not looking like a good outing for Bush so far.
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:21 PM EST (#107722) #
Both teams feature their opening-day lineups
Brian B. - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:24 PM EST (#107724) #
Hey dave, how are you following the game?
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:24 PM EST (#107725) #
Posada leads off second with a solo bomb
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:25 PM EST (#107726) #
Posada just belted a solo HR off the office buildeings down the right field line to lead off the top 2nd. 4-0 now.
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:25 PM EST (#107727) #
MLB.com
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:28 PM EST (#107728) #
Both teams warned after Bush drills Womack (Reed Johnson was plunked to open the bottom of the first). Womack taken out of game.

Yanks 1st and 3rd with no one out
Terran - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:30 PM EST (#107729) #
Bush is not looking good today...atleast it's spring training...

Was the hbp intentional and is Womack okay?
Brian B. - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:33 PM EST (#107730) #
Thanks for the pbp, gentlemen.
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:33 PM EST (#107731) #
Jerry and Warren weren't too clear. After all, Bush hasn't exactly been pin-point thus far (particularly his curve) thus far.

5-0 after Jeter grounds into FC

kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:36 PM EST (#107734) #
Gary Sheffield blasts a 2 run job into the trees and its 7-0 Yanks
unclejim - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:36 PM EST (#107735) #
It gets worse. 2 run homer for Sheffield.

7-0 to the bad guys..

But hey, who's counting... its still only Spring... !
Rob - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:38 PM EST (#107736) #
7-0? Who do these guys think they are, the Yankees?
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:39 PM EST (#107737) #
Hey - at least they let Bush finish the inning, and after three straight attempts at a curveball, he finally got off a good one the announcers said!
Terran - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:40 PM EST (#107738) #
It is of course still spring training. At some point during the regular season we're going to want to win against the Yankees though ^_^
Mike Green - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:45 PM EST (#107740) #
I take it, Kevin, that the three homers came off hanging curveballs.

Hitting the occasional batter is a part of Bush's m.o. He's not afraid to pitch inside to anybody.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:45 PM EST (#107741) #
Koskie and Hillenbrand on base, Hinske singles off lf wall, Koskie scores. 7-1 now.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:46 PM EST (#107742) #
Mike Green - I don't know what pitches he threw for the HRs. But at the end of the 2nd inning, when it was 7-0, he threw 3 straight - it was like he was trying to get just one of them over before hitting the showers.
Flex - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:48 PM EST (#107744) #
Anybody know if Bush is supposed to have a good curve (i.e. last year), or is he trying to learn a new pitch?
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:48 PM EST (#107745) #
Jays get the 1st 3 runners on, but can only score 1 run - at the end of 2, its 7-1 Yanks.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:48 PM EST (#107746) #
Flex - he has a great curve - usually its one of his better pitches.
Terran - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:49 PM EST (#107747) #
Flex - I think the Curveball's suppose to be his best pitch.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:49 PM EST (#107748) #
Bush has actually come out to start the 3rd.
Flex - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:51 PM EST (#107749) #
Thank you, men. I should've known that.

But Mom always said if you aren't sure, don't be afraid to ask.
Terran - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:51 PM EST (#107750) #
Why not? He may as well try to end on a good note so he feels a bit better about his preformace...
binnister - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:52 PM EST (#107751) #
But hey, who's counting... its still only Spring... !

I'd say that this is an important game, at least from a PR standpoint.

7 days to opening day, during a year that you've lost your big ticket name (Delgado), and where you're trying to get the 'average' person to come out to the RogerDome....and your getting spanked with the team you intend to field come opening day. ;/

All the media's going to report is that, inspite of a 'good' spring training, the Jays are going to continue to be smacked around by the teams that 'matter' in the the AL East.

kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:53 PM EST (#107752) #
he's thrown alot of pitches already - most likely on a 75 pitch pitch count or there abouts
Andrew K - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:55 PM EST (#107753) #
Yuck. I turned on the game late because I was painting my bathroom, and I hear "7-1 Yanks in the bottom of the 2nd". I fear that this might happen a number of times during the regular season.

Mind you, if we have Pete Walker in the bullpen, then I guess Bush can be pulled in the 2nd inning, if he can't get his curveball over. Walker is a good substitute when needed.
Terran - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 01:56 PM EST (#107754) #
Binnister: The thing is though, the average fan doesn't pay attention to spring training or even know any of the results that take place in it. Likewise the media won't report (or atleast I rarely see them report on) the Blue Jays spring training results when it's over. Instead they'll summarize how the blue jays did in 2004 followed by talking about their off-season. I very much doubt that this game will ever be known to the average fan at all.
VBF - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:02 PM EST (#107756) #
Terran is right, if there is any worry it's not from the PR department. This game will be a distant memory a week from now, but if there's any concern it's the fact that our best lineup versus their best lineup has a 7-1 result right now.

Maybe Bush was experimenting or gambling a little, and perhaps this result is not all as it seems.
VBF - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:03 PM EST (#107757) #
7-2 Yankees.
H Winfield Teut - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:05 PM EST (#107758) #
I consider myself a very devout fan, and any loss hurts, but I agree come April this game will mean nothing. Pitchers really don't care about stats to some extent they are working out kinks, hitters are getting their swings in. Is it discouraing to get spanked by the Bankees, a bit, but I won't lose any sleep over it, and I doubt the loss will cause any sleepless nights in Dunedin.
CeeBee - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:10 PM EST (#107759) #
It's only the end of the 3rd so it's not quite over yet either. :)
Brian B. - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:13 PM EST (#107760) #
Pitchers can have off days or be working on some pitch or situation, but the Blue Jays hitters are the ones that seem to be slow starting this spring.

Will they find a good hitting chemistry between the players or will they be weak whenever they're behind in a game.

I guess we'll see as time goes on.
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:15 PM EST (#107761) #
Top of fifth, Bush still pitching
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:16 PM EST (#107762) #
Top 5th: Bush still pitching. Sheffield grounds out sharply to Koskie at 3rd.
Braby21 - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:16 PM EST (#107763) #
Anyone still listening that wants to do the play by play?
uglyone - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:17 PM EST (#107764) #
I guess it really wasn't a tough decision in spring training, but I'm very glad they sent Bush back out there after those 1st two poor innings.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:18 PM EST (#107765) #
Count evens at 2-2. Next batter swings through a changeup to whiff.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:19 PM EST (#107766) #
With his curve working more effectively, Bush seems to be throwing it better. Tino Martinez looks at a fastball on the corner to also whiff. Middle 5, 7-2 Yanks.
Braby21 - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:19 PM EST (#107767) #
thx kpataky
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:22 PM EST (#107768) #
bottom 5th: Russ Adams looks at a fb for a strike. Strike 2 called. Sliced foul down the lf line. Weakly grounded out to 2nd.
owais - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:23 PM EST (#107769) #
how did the jays score their second run.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:24 PM EST (#107770) #
Reed Johnson fouls one off. High for a ball. Fouled off to the right into the crowd. breaking ball inside to even the count. Hit weakly to ARod at 3rd, 2 down.
owais - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:25 PM EST (#107771) #
this is only my second post. can i post any articles?
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:25 PM EST (#107772) #
Hudson back to the mound, knocked down by Wright and thrown to 1st for the 3rd out. End of 5, Yanks lead 7-2
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:28 PM EST (#107773) #
Top 6th: Lightenberg pitching.
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:28 PM EST (#107774) #
Lightenberg takes over.
Howarth gives reason for optimism with Bush's performance (finished strong....)
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:29 PM EST (#107775) #
Bush held the Yanks scoreless over his last 3 innings. His line: 5 IP, 4 SO, 1 BB, 7ER.

Matsui flies out to Johnson in left.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:31 PM EST (#107776) #
Posada grounds to Hillenbrand who bobbled it recovered to make the play.
binnister - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:33 PM EST (#107777) #
I might have over reacted a bit (7-0, at the time, is a bitter pill to stomach), but I should point out that those who frequent the Batter's Box aren't your 'average' fans.

Although the coverage is minimal, which of the following 2 'short' news reports is likely to have a positive impact with the casual fan?

"...and in Spring Training, the New York Yankees scored 7 in the first 2 innings and added 7 more, as the Toronto Blue Jays were stomped 14-2, with only 7 days left until the regular season opens."

or

"...and in Spring Training, the New York Yankees scored 7 in the first 2 innings, but the Toronto Blue Jays scrapped there way back and took the game with a final score 9-7, with only 7 days left until Opening Day."

Although the games mean nothing, to a 'Casual Fan'tm, the difference is either reinforcing the idea that the 'Jays suck' or thinking that they might be O.K this year.

kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:33 PM EST (#107778) #
Yanks 2B hit one on the ground over 3rd down the line for a 2B.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:35 PM EST (#107779) #
Williams rips one into the gap in right center and his slide into 3rd just beats the thrown to Koskie for a triple, scoring 1. Crosby pinch runs for Williams. Jeter drives ones to Rios on the track in right to end the inning. Now score is 8-2.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:38 PM EST (#107780) #
Bottom 6th: Russ Johnson in to play 3rd. Rey Sanchez in at short for Jeter. Wells sharp one hopper snared by a the dive of Tino at first who takes it to the bag for the out.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:39 PM EST (#107781) #
Rolls in left for Matsui. Crosby now in center. Porter takes over in right for Sheffield. Koskie pops out to Posada in front of the dish.
Mick Doherty - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:40 PM EST (#107782) #
Rey Sanchez in at short for Jeter.

THAT'S a phrase Yankee fans don't want to see too often in 2005.

kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:41 PM EST (#107783) #
Hillenbrand grounds out to short. End of 6, 8-2 Yanks.
mistermike - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:41 PM EST (#107784) #
Although the games mean nothing, to a 'Casual Fan'tm, the difference is either reinforcing the idea that the 'Jays suck' or thinking that they might be O.K this year.

But cast in the shadow of the Red Sox and Yankess, the Jays do suck. There's no way they can compete this year against those two. Can't blame the media for spreading the message now because it will be the truth through 2005.

CeeBee - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:42 PM EST (#107785) #
Thanks for the pbp, Kevin. :)
H Winfield Teut - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:42 PM EST (#107786) #
I dont think either will even be mentioned as far as reports. Look at it this way.... Does the Jays great spring record mean a great season? Of course not, the average fan is more likely to see the great record and think things are rosey then they are to get bent out of shape over a blow out.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:43 PM EST (#107787) #
Announcers just said that Hinske came up in the A's organization behind Eric Chavez - but he was drafted by the Cubs and it looks like he came through their Minor League System before a stop in Syracuse and then on to Toronto.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:44 PM EST (#107788) #
Top 7th: Sanchez grounds out to short.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:48 PM EST (#107789) #
gotta run guys - sorry - no more PBP
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:50 PM EST (#107790) #
Rivera in for the Yanks in bottom of 7
Braby21 - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:51 PM EST (#107791) #
np...thx for doing a couple innings
Chuck - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:55 PM EST (#107792) #
Any chance that's Homer Bush out there pitching today? He was released by the Yankees last week.
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 02:56 PM EST (#107793) #
Hinske strikes out swinging
Zaun grounds out to second
Rios sneaks a single under the glove of the Yanks' second baseman (Caonabo Cosme) into centre for a single
Adams strikes out to end the inning

end of 7, yanks 8-2

Burnside in for Jays
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:01 PM EST (#107795) #
Rolls lines out to Wells (back-handed on his knees).
Joe Defasino (???), pinch-hitting for Posada, fouls out to Hillenbrand
Cosme also fouls out to Hillenbrand
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:05 PM EST (#107796) #
It's Joe Depastino
Ron - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:06 PM EST (#107797) #
According to Elliot

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Elliott/2005/03/28/974460.html

the Jays have their eyes on 3 college batters:


With 71 days remaining until the annual June 7-8 amateur draft of high schoolers and collegians, the Jays scouts have been seen focusing on three college players for their first-round pick:

- Catcher Jeff Clement, of USC Trojans. Clement, the seventh-ranked collegian, according to Baseball America is hitting .319 through 21 games with seven doubles, four homers and 19 RBIs.

- Third baseman Ryan Zimmerman, of the Virginia Cavaliers. The 10th-ranked collegian, is batting .411 in 23 games with seven doubles, two triples, three homers and 33 RBIs.

- Third baseman Ryan Braun, of the University of Miami Hurricanes. Rated the 27th best collegian, Braun is hitting .461 in 27 games with eight doubles, a triple, 10 homers and 41 RBIs.

I would have thought they would have their eye on an OF.
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:06 PM EST (#107798) #
Actually, his name was little more than fodder for a lame comedic brash from Sawkiw, Campbell and Howarth.

Karsay on the mound.

Reed Johnson flies out to centre
Hudson strikes out swinging
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:07 PM EST (#107799) #
Joltin Joe Depastino.
dave - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:07 PM EST (#107800) #
wells flies to right to end inning
Rob - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:11 PM EST (#107802) #
I would have thought they would have their eye on an OF.

You can always move a third baseman to left or right field. I wouldn't put too much stock in Bob Elliot's plans for the Jays' draft strategies, either.

R Billie - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:16 PM EST (#107803) #
Bush is clearly susceptable to the long ball when he doesn't have his location. He won't get away with hanging curves or fastballs up in the zone on hitters' counts. Lineups like the Yankees are unforgiving to mistakes. Very few pitchers can give up three homeruns and survive.

It's a good thing that he was able to come back and pitch 3 scoreless innings with better command. But the Yankees probably also let up with a 7-0 lead. I think Bush is going to be a good pitcher for the most part this year but I don't think you can look at his sub-4.00 era from last year and expect the same thing.

I would be more conservative and expect something in the 4.50 range with more homeruns allowed but a decent number of innings. It's to his credit that he was able to pitch 5 innings in a game that he probably would have been pulled from in the regular season.
kpataky - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 03:22 PM EST (#107804) #
Hillenbrand HRed in the 9th, but the Yanks still win, 8-3.
R Billie - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 04:06 PM EST (#107805) #
the Jays have their eyes on 3 college batters:

This is probably their plan as of today but there's another 2.5 months to go until the draft. I'm sure they will continue to monitor the other players available including pitchers.

Here are some snippets on these players from brewerfans.net (I've thrown in stats from the college websites):

Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%
Zimmerman... 0.389 24-24 95 20 37 7 2 3 33 57 0.6 9 3 5 4 0.45 2 0 7/8 12 56 3 0.958

Height/Weight: 6-2 / 210
Junior
School: Virginia
Brewerfan.net Rank: 20

Zimmerman really came on last spring as a sophomore, hitting .361 for the surprising Caveliers. He followed that up with an impressive showing with Team USA leading the team with a .468 batting average and 12 doubles, while tieing the team lead with 4 home runs. Zimmerman's best tool might be his defense, as he is considered Gold Glove caliber at the hot corner with good, quick movements, soft hands a very strong arm. While he's not a flashy player, he should be very steady in the mold of a Jeff Cirillo.

Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%
Braun 0.457 28-28 105 45 48 9 1 10 43 89 0.848 15 6 18 0 0.519 7 0 15/19 27 62 0.908

Height/Weight: 6-2 / 205
Junior
School: Miami
Brewerfan.net Rank: 25

Braun could emerge as one of the more exciting all-around offensive players from the 2005 draft. He started to produce immediately upon stepping onto Miami's campus, leading Miami in triple crown categories, which led to him being named Baseball America's freshman of the year. He projects to hit for both power and average, and he has the speed to steal 20+ bags as a professional. He has the athleticism to stay at SS, but his actions may be better suited at 3B. He could project favorably to Nomar Garciaparra as an offensive-minded shortstop, with enough pop to justify a move to 3B if needed, and with another big spring he could easily find himself being taken in the top 10 rounds in the June draft. He didn't hit very well on the Cape last summer with a wood bat, so questions about how his bat translates at the pro level may loom.

Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%
Clement..... 0.342 22-22 73 19 25 8 0 5 20 48 0.658 18 6 13 0 0.505 0 2 1/3 163 14 0.983

Height/Weight: 6-1 / 205
Date of Birth: 8/21/83
School: USC
Brewerfan.net Rank: 4

First-team preseason All-American according to Baseball America. Power hitting catching prospect that was considered a first-round pick coming out of High School in Iowa, but he disappointed scouts somewhat that spring which caused him to fall to the 12th round, where he was selected by the Twins. Clement is best known for breaking the prep home run mark previously held by Drew Henson. He also holds the all-time walks record for prep players. He has continued to hit with incredible power from the left-side of the plate at USC, using a short, compact stroke and good bat speed. He hits the ball to all fields, and shows a very keen eye at the plate. For a good power hitter, he doesn't strike out very much, and he will also draw his fair share of walks. The big question mark remains on the defensive side of his game. He did a very good job throwing out base-stealers as a sophomore, and has worked hard to improve his footwork, blocking and overall game-calling skills. With a big spring Clement could easily find himself as one of the first 3-5 picks, especially if he proves himself behind the dish.
Jordan - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 04:10 PM EST (#107806) #
Owais, to answer your question, you can post to any thread, but you can't start a thread. If you have an article you'd like to post, you can submit it for Pinch-Hit consideration to craig@battersox.ca.

Bush struggled today entirely because I drafted him in my fantasy league yesterday. If it's any consolation, I also drafted Jeter. I'm glad Bush finished out his 5 full innings, and that he recovered to pitch well over the last three. I've never heard of the Yankees or any other team "letting up" in a professional game, exhibition or otherwise -- if they didn't score after the 3rd, it's because Bush was throwing better.

"Average fans" interest me the least of any fan. If they make decisions about the team based on a spring training game, they deserve to wallow in their ignorance.

Mike Forbes - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 04:15 PM EST (#107807) #
Clement's numbers don't really match the hype he's recieving but Ryan Braun is hitting like a madman. He seems to be an impact player with the bat.. Exactly what the Jays need.
cade - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 04:17 PM EST (#107808) #
rob --

why are we not trusting Elliott re the Jays's draft strategy? Is there reason to believe he's just plain wrong? Please expand...

cade.
R Billie - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 04:49 PM EST (#107809) #
I would be careful about reading TOO much into the statistical differences of these players based on about 100 college at bats. For Clement to equal Braun's batting average he would have needed about 7 more hits, or 1 additional hit every three games. When we're talking about just 22 games played for him that could easily be influenced by chance. Only about half of the college season has happened so far so a lot could change and more players could enter consideration later on.

Braun does have the clear edge in isolated power over the other two, though not a HUGE edge over Clement. And he's striking out about the same rate as Clement but walking less. Zimmerman is striking out far less than the other two players (about 5% of his at bats as opposed to 13% for the other two) but is also walking the least likely because he doesn't show as much power to fear.

Braun appears to have the most speed and is playing both SS and 3B and could probably handle the outfield well if necessary. Zimmerman is the best defensive player. Clement plays a difficult position to fill if he's able to stay at catcher and seems to have the best plate discipline of the three with respectable pop. It's an interesting mix of things to consider.
Rob - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 05:15 PM EST (#107811) #
why are we not trusting Elliott re the Jays's draft strategy?

Well, I didn't say we should not trust him. I said I "wouldn't put too much stock" in what he says about the draft. There are a few reasons:

1. Reading the article, he throws the mention of those three players in the middle, with no bridge. If you delete the part of the story that Ron provided from the article and read the paragraphs before and after, they flow quite nicely, leading me to believe he needed to put this section in somewhere. It didn't warrant a full article, so he tossed it into a similar one.
2. He doesn't give any reason for these players -- Clement, Zimmerman, Braun -- to be on the Jays' watch list other than "the Jays scouts have been seen focusing on." Maybe it's just poor word choice, but why add the "seen" in there? "The Jays scouts are focusing on..." is more declarative, and I bet Elliot used his passive phrasing because he doesn't know what the Jays will do.
3. Nobody, and especially nobody writing for the Toronto Sun, knows who the Jays will pick in June.

Of course, it's fun to speculate, and since that's what Elliot was doing, more power to him. I just don't think he knows one way or the other.

Pistol - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 05:25 PM EST (#107812) #
I think the key is 'have been seen'. Sounds like Elliot has talked to scouts from other teams that have seen the Jays scouts at games that included these players and spectulated that is who the Jays were focused on.

If you remember back to Aaron Hill and Bradford's book (which I can't think of the name of now) the Jays intentionally didn't scout Hill because they wanted him and didn't want to tip their hand.

Coincidentally, I'm finishing a thread on the top college prospects that'll likely be up in a couple days. Needless to say, Alex Gordon and his .900+ sluggling percentage aren't going to make it to #6.
Pistol - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 05:29 PM EST (#107814) #
Chasing Steinbrenner is the book I couldn't think of.
Terran - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 06:33 PM EST (#107817) #
As a sidenote Womack said "it doesn't feel good" when refering to the knee that Bush hit. Womack had an X-Ray which came up negative but has an MRI scheduled for tomorrow. This probably isn't anything serious but at this point in the spring I wonder if he might end up missing opening day?

For his part, Bush says it wasn't intentional.
Jordan - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 07:02 PM EST (#107818) #
If Womack's out, the Yankees should send Bush a thank-you note.
Ryan C - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 07:09 PM EST (#107820) #
If you remember back to Aaron Hill and Bradford's book (which I can't think of the name of now) the Jays intentionally didn't scout Hill because they wanted him and didn't want to tip their hand.

See also: Moneyball, Billy Beane, Nick Swisher ;)

It's kind of nice to know who the Jays have been scouting and speculation is always fun. But I agree that it is in no way a great indicator of who they're likely to select come draft time.

Jim - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 09:06 PM EST (#107825) #
I got lucky last year and guessed Purcey. I think they go Clement this year. Oh to be picking third instead of sixth.
Terran - Monday, March 28 2005 @ 11:39 PM EST (#107831) #
If Womack's out, the Yankees should send Bush a thank-you note. They have little depth left in 2nd base though after losing Cairo and releasing Homer Bush. Rey Sanchez is there next best 2nd basemen who could never hit homers, and now can't seem to steal many bases or even hit above .250 in a season. He is 37 so that's understandable, but the point still remains that he's hardily a guy you want on your starting line-up.
jgadfly - Tuesday, March 29 2005 @ 01:35 AM EST (#107833) #
Re: Toronto newspaper sensational headline of years past...negative reporting vs objective reporting ?...
there is a very interesting story at Washingtonpost.com discussing the "Fading Image of the Black Ballplayer"... the tone seems to be somewhat subdued (perhaps lamenting / perhaps to reinforce the "fading image") but in definite contrast to as I recall the attack mode of the Toronto Star of two summers ago...I hesitate to raise this article as I would prefer to forget the Torstar harangue and the subsequent controversy but I believe that the Post article is valuable not only for its information but for its approach
Named For Hank - Tuesday, March 29 2005 @ 02:59 AM EST (#107835) #
I think that of the four Easter Weekend games, this one was the least important from the viewpoint of the casual fan, because it wasn't on the radio.

And will a fan be turned off by a loss they couldn't see or hear when the team is still in first place? What's more important to the casual fan: winning today, or being in first place?

Joe - Tuesday, March 29 2005 @ 10:16 AM EST (#107854) #
Holy crap, talk about taking it too seriously! Treat Spring Training games like a goldfish would: "Did I just watch something?"
Mick Doherty - Tuesday, March 29 2005 @ 11:12 AM EST (#107864) #
Rey Sanchez is their next best 2nd basemen

That's probably right, but if Womack is out for any length of time, the job probably goes to Robinson Cano or Andy Phillips. Even though Cano is higher on the prospect chart, probably Phillips.

Oh, who am I kidding? The Yankees starting a kid? If Womack is hurt, the Yankees starting 2B will be ... Robbie Alomar.

Named For Hank - Tuesday, March 29 2005 @ 11:19 AM EST (#107866) #
Yeah, I was responding to binnister's comments earlier, Joe.
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