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Well, that sure was a rough week for the Cheer Club. Not in terms of the losses, but in terms of the physical and mental strain of dealing with Yankees fans, Red Sox fans and a guy from SkyDome security who didn't read his morning memo.

The Red Sox fans, for the most part, were the nicest of the three. Even the guy who spotted Alex's Expos jersey and told him to "Go back to Portugal!" wasn't that bad, because when we didn't stop laughing at him he went away. And we met some pretty great Red Sox fans who came up to see the O-Drum from section 120, and instead of trash-talking the Jays they commiserated with us. That was fun.

The Yankees fans were a whole different ballgame. Last time we met some good ones, but this time we just saw the idiots, I guess. I imagine the elderly "gentleman" who came up to heckle us is pretty good in the stands at Yankee stadium, though he seemed a little too-prepared. He took it well when I stole his Yankee flag that he tried to hang on the drum. But the guys who came up afterwards were just the dregs of Yankee fandom. They tried their best to get into a fist fight with us. They were pretty funny in their lack of baseball knowledge, even Yankee knowledge, and they had a coping plan for responses: they all shouted gibberish together to drown out comebacks. That worked for a few minutes until Mike began to simply drum at top volume over anything they said, which infuriated them. One threw his mostly empty beer at Mike. Mike stood up, the guy said, "So, are you gonna fight us?" Mike chuckled and said "No," and went to the concourse. The beer thrower and the guy next to him suddenly twigged to what was going on and got up and ran off. Mike returned -- he had actually just been standing in the tunnel to the concourse.

The remaining three kept up their doltish act, becoming more and more vulgar until an usher came to ask to see their tickets. Gee, how would they have tickets in an unsold section?

The start of Saturday's game has some real fireworks. After straightening out Thursday's mess, we figured all would be smooth sailing. Nope, a very aggressive security supervisor came out screaming in the first inning. At first he was incredibly rude to me, saying "Shut up, I'm talking to the guy with the drum!" Mike pointed out that I was the organizer, so the supervisor gestured for me to come with him. He reamed me out in the concourse about how he was already receiving "player complaints", pointing to his walkie-talkie. Whenever I tried to explain that I had been over all of this with the head of security, he'd shout down my explanation with "NO! You know you CANNOT play the drum after the pitcher is in the set position!" I said that he needed to talk to his boss, because I was told what he was saying about the pitchers on Thursday but then all of that was taken back on Friday by the head of security. He said, "Oh, you BET I'm going to talk to Mario, and you'll regret being such an idiot about this!"

So I went back to the drum. We kept playing, because by playing we would get to the bottom of all this -- if we were ejected for playing while a Yankee was pitching, it would be pretty conclusive proof that the Yankees had indeed complained about the drum.

Well, about five minutes later, the same security guy came back with a big grin on his face and called, "Hey, buddy!" to me. I went into the concourse to talk to him, and he said that he just had a strip taken off of him for not reading his morning memo, and that we could play the drum whenever we wanted as long as we were a section away from people in their assigned seats, and since we were in an unsold section, everything was fine. We shook hands, and that was that. And then we saw a game where Frank Menechino pitched. I guess you can't win every battle. We gave the ME-NE-CHI-NO chant a really good workout while he was up, though.

Well, with Mike now working near the Dome, we should be able to coax him and the drum out to even more games, right Mike? I'm making a MENECHINO FOR CLOSER sign for Tuesday. Who's coming?

Two game-thread comments that made my week:

NYJaysFan36: Aaron, it was cool to see the O-Drum. Your drummer was very good. We were in 532 directly across from you guys. Some of the most effective stuff were his rolls. By the time they got across the stadium it sounded like a stampeding herd.
One thing of interest, when you were trying to distract Brown on the hill with the short blasts, I fear because of the distance of the mound from the O-drum, Brown didn't hear it until after the ball was released. In 532 we'd hear those noises after the pitch was past the batter...just something to keep in mind.


Thanks for the very useful tip, Dave. Mike B, a.k.a. bird droppings drummed most of Saturday's game, with some excellent relief from Alex Obal. Both really brought their A-games. And I love the crazy drum rolls.

Chuck Van Den Corput: My friggin' TV is shaking.

That's what I like to hear!
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_Sister - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 11:23 AM EDT (#37650) #
Having moved to Halifax (from Toronto) about a year ago, and being a big Jays fan, I would have loved to have joined up with the Cheer club. I appreciate what you guys are doing -- even from the coast. It sounds like a blast.
Named For Hank - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 11:41 AM EDT (#37651) #
It's definitely fun, Sister.

Looks like I might not make Tuesday's game after all, which would mean the Menechino sign will be unveiled on Wednesday. I'll have a preview up soon.
_NYJaysFan36 - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 11:43 AM EDT (#37652) #
Aaron!?!?! Dave in NYC?!?!?!
It's Bob from Rochester! Talk about lack of respect...:(
Unfortunately Rochester is still physically in New York so I put NYJaysFan36. That is until we break away to form "North Pennsylvania"
I would HATE to live in that ignorant hellhole (NYC), and if I did, I wouldn't admit it.
The goal is to move to T.O. as quickly as possible after June 1st, 2005. Know any firms or companies hiring electrical engineers?
I have to stay until June or I lose my signing bonus that I got out of school...:(
But yeah, me and my buddy spent some of the game analyzing the best way to utilize the O-drum from an accoustic wave travel stance. We're dorks.
Anybody ever have "Lee Town" chinese food on Yonge right by the Delta Chelsea? Talk about good Pork Fried Rice! hahaha

-Bob
Named For Hank - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 11:45 AM EDT (#37653) #
Aaaah, sorry Bob -- I got my wires crossed there. Somehow I had the right name in my rough draft but the wrong one in the version I posted. Let me fix it.
Named For Hank - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#37654) #
Named For Hank - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:13 PM EDT (#37655) #


Minor variation.
_Moffatt - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:14 PM EDT (#37656) #
Wow.. awesome work. I really like the 2nd one.

/subtle?
_Useless Tyler - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:16 PM EDT (#37657) #
YES YES YES!!! BEST BANNER EVER!

I've got to go to the entire Seattle series - finally a chance to see the Jays win. That should be quite fun.

There's nothing I can add about the recent games that NFH didn't already say - the Yankee game on Saturday essentially sucked. Sure, we had fun with the drum, but the blowout, coupled with the INSANE heat, coupled with the idiotic annoying yankees fans brought me closer to leaving a game early than ever before. Fortunately, I didn't, keeping the streak alive.

And of course the one game I DON'T go to is the one they win. Bah.

On the plus side, Seattle's coming up.

Can anyone say 4-game winning streak?
Named For Hank - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:26 PM EDT (#37658) #
Thanks, guys.



Even slightly more different -- I really want the text to stand out. Damn, that bird looks mean back there.

By the way, this shot is of Menechino turning a double play in Oakland. Shhhh.
_Useless Tyler - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:31 PM EDT (#37659) #
Somebody's going to be scrolling down through this and wondering why so many people are so enthusiastic about writing "Menechino for Closer".
_The Original Ry - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:32 PM EDT (#37660) #
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/photo?slug=fng10908290015.yankees_blue_jays_fng109&prov=ap
If you want it, COMN for a photo of Menechino pitching for the Jays Saturday.
Named For Hank - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:45 PM EDT (#37661) #
Thanks Ryan, but it's way too small to be made into a banner. This was the best Google yielded in my Frank Menechino search.
_6-4-3 - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:52 PM EDT (#37662) #
Best! Sign! Ever! It's now my desktop wallpaper.

I can't wait to see the Ichiro! show again. Last night, he went 3 for 4, with 3 runs and a homer, putting his average up to .369. He just wrapped up a month in which he hit .457 and actually homered 4 times, despite his concussion.
_Useless Tyler - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 12:54 PM EDT (#37663) #
Despite? Or because?
_Fawaz K - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 01:07 PM EDT (#37664) #
One misses a lot in a month. Just back after a baseball-free vacation to find that Tosca's out, Gross is in and the Jays are 23 games under. Could anyone give me a quick run-down of anything else particularly significant that may have happened (pertaining to baseball, for now)? I'll save wading through a month's worth of archives for another day. I've been back long enough to have seen yesterday's blackout and Mighty Mouse display his nasty, mousy stuff.
_The Original Ry - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 01:16 PM EDT (#37665) #
Could anyone give me a quick run-down of anything else particularly significant that may have happened (pertaining to baseball, for now)?

You were named team president two weeks ago. Congratulations! :-)
robertdudek - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 01:21 PM EDT (#37666) #
Phelps was traded for Crozier. Cat opted for surgery on the groin and is gone for the year. Vernon re-injured the leg this week and is DH'ing now. Delgado is hitting the ball well now. Frasor and Chulk are struggling; Speier is pitching well - speculation is that Speier will be used in the closer role more often now. Kevin Frederick was called up and he's taken over the long man role with mixed results. Lefty Dave Maurer was called up, was shelled in a couple of games and was sent back down.

Gibbons said Woodward and Cash were going to get more of a look, but I haven't noticed Cash playing more - I think they've decided he's not going to be a first-string catcher.

Ted Lilly had one of the best games ever for a Jays starting pitcher a week ago (on Monday), taking into account that he shut down the best offensive team in the league.

Roy Halladay will return sometime in mid-September to get him a few starts so that he's confident that the arm is sound going into the off-season. Dave Bush has continued to pitch well.

Speculation is that Adams, Crozier and possibly Quiroz will be September call-ups.
_Dr. Zarco - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#37667) #
Well the long-awaited trip for Mrs. Z and I this past weekend was a blast! Our only regret was not getting up to see you guys and the drum on Saturday. We were in 522 on Saturday and after an entire morning/day of walking around the city, we were too dead tired to make it to the left field foul pole-it looked so darn far away! Then with the power outage and no drum, we didn't have time (flight home) and couldn't find you guys Sunday!

Two fun games for Mrs. Z, these being her first. A position player pitching in a 9 run inning, and a power outage were certainly two one of a kinds on back-to-back days!

Other random comments:
Some of the Yankee fans around us Sunday were incredibly disrespectful to the Tom Cheek ceremony, chanting "basebaaaaaall, baaaaaaseball," and other obnoxious things.

Too bad it rained all darn weekend, it would have been nice to see the roof open!

Great recommendations on food guys-especially Rob-Il Fornello was great, we went there Sat. night after the game.

Love the drum. It really got people into the game. It did a way better job than the cheesy things they play over the loadspeaker. And you guys were all right-it is VERY hard to have a conversation between innings or during any music they play.
Craig B - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 01:29 PM EDT (#37668) #
IN OTHER NEWS, JOHN HATTIG IS GROWING INTO HIS MAN-STRENGTH.

LOL,

SARAH
_Dr. Zarco - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#37669) #
Oh-another thing. We saw Ligtenbeg in the airport. And he looked pissed. I thought he got traded or released or something weird. I was all excited to get home and read battersbox for the news, but there was none. We also saw the whole Yankee team walk by us as we were waiting for our (delayed) plane to board. That was pretty neat. Tony Clark is a large, large man. Tom Gordon is not.
_Fawaz K - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 01:40 PM EDT (#37670) #
Thanks. The Phelps trade shouldn't be surprising, yet I'm finding it so only because I thought his .330/.370/.600 (or something like that) line against lefties would have earned him a role on the team. Good luck to him though; at least from post-game interviews and on-field conduct he seemed to be a nice guy who does things the right way and could occasionally put the ball in the 5th deck.
_benum - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#37671) #
Phelps in CLE (21 AB)
381/409/714 (1123 OPS)

Phelps splits (both teams)
v.s. Left (124 AB)
331/373/637 (1010 OPS)

vs. Right (192 AB)
193/258/307 (566 OPS)

His splits from 2001-2003 are:

vs. Left (202 AB)
297/372/450 (822 OPS)

vs. Right (471 AB)
272/348/518 (866 OPS)

Anyone with an analysis? (or has this been flogged out already?)
_G.T. - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 02:13 PM EDT (#37672) #
I can't wait to see the Ichiro! show again. Last night, he went 3 for 4, with 3 runs and a homer, putting his average up to .369.

Currently on-pace for 260 hits, which would break George Sisler's 84-year old record of 257! I think I remember reading at the end of July that nobody else had ever had two 50-hit months in one season. August makes three... .400 in May, .432 in July, .457 in August. Wow!
_6-4-3 - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 03:07 PM EDT (#37673) #
"Despite? Or because?"

From the fine folks at USSmariner :

"Ichiro talks tonight about playing with the after-effects of his concussion:

“In the first inning when I ran down the line, I was really dizzy and didn’t know if I could even run straight,” Suzuki said through a translator. “To me, it felt like having four beers, for me. … The next time it was three beers, the next time it was two beers. It didn’t go to zero beers. Maybe the last time was one beer.”

The man’s playing drunk and still goes 3-4. Amazing. "

"Currently on-pace for 260 hits, which would break George Sisler's 84-year old record of 257"

Yeah, but on-pace assumes he can keep up his current (historical pace). I mentioned this before, but Ichiro now has the most hits from ages 27 - 30 (862 hits). It's a somewhat arbitrary stat, but it's still amazing to see him ahead of guys like Boggs, Musial, Gehrig, etc.

(tech note: can someone tell me how to do the italics quotes? They're visually better than the straight " " method here)
_stargurl - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 03:10 PM EDT (#37674) #
To make italics like this:

Put <.i> at the beginning of the italics section and <./i> at the end, without the periods.
Leigh - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#37675) #
can someone tell me how to do the italics quotes?

6-4-3, that and other nifty information, such as how to link, are included in Batter's Box FAQ
_Emerald - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 03:12 PM EDT (#37676) #
Yeah, italics are where it's at
_6-4-3 - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 03:25 PM EDT (#37677) #
D'oh. The sad thing is that I read the FAQ once, even the Peña stuff, and somehow this slipped my mind.

Thanks.
Craig B - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 03:27 PM EDT (#37678) #
End the miserable little italicized b******s.
Craig B - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 03:27 PM EDT (#37679) #
And the FAQ will be updated by the end of the week. I swear.
_Useless Tyler - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 04:43 PM EDT (#37680) #
The man’s playing drunk and still goes 3-4. Amazing.

Hey - didn't David Wells claim to pitch a perfect game while drunk?

And I still stand by my contention that Carlos Delgado was either drunk or high when he hit his four homers.
_Rob - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 05:12 PM EDT (#37681) #
Great recommendations on food guys-especially Rob-Il Fornello was great, we went there Sat. night after the game.

Good to hear that you enjoyed it -- my lifelong dream of suggesting an Italian restaurant in Toronto to people from Chicago (?) has been fulfilled. :)
Thomas - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 05:40 PM EDT (#37682) #
Dock Ellis supposdely threw a no-no on LSD.
_Mark J - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 09:40 PM EDT (#37683) #
I'm back home but I'm glad to have been a very small part of the eventful Cheer Club week. I went to my first 3 games at SkyDome ever (including the Lilly gem) and sat with the guys in 518 for the Wednesday game (the 11-5 monstrosity). It was nice to meet you all & I wish I could go to more games... I wonder if that Australian TV thing is going to happen.

I was at the Thursday game too with some friends in the outfield (directly under where Delgado hit his home run). I did notice the lack of drumming after the first few innings and I still can't believe you got told to stop!

Cheers & hope to be back sooner rather than later!
_Mick - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 10:51 PM EDT (#37684) #
Hey - didn't David Wells claim to pitch a perfect game while drunk?

Piker. Dock Ellis tossed a no-hitter on acid.
_Useless Tyler - Monday, August 30 2004 @ 10:54 PM EDT (#37685) #
So is ANYONE going to be at the game on Tuesday other than me? I don't want to be the only guy in 518!
Named For Hank - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#37686) #
I'm playing golf with Mrs. Hank at 3:00 or so. I cannot golf, so it might take a while, and then we're going to dinner. So I won't be there. I'll be late to Wednesday's game, too.
_Jobu - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#37687) #
Holy Crap. You go the cottage for a few days and you miss a legendary weekend! Drunken Yankee Fans, Skydome Nazis, MENECHINO pitching!!!! Oh I feel so guilty for leaving. And now whats worse, I'm here for one day and tomorrow morning I'm off to Expos-Land. If I miss Sparky pitching I swear I'll shoot someone. When I get back, I'm going to have to go to ALOT of September games to work off this guilt. How was Menechino's pitching by the way? No tv at the cottage. Did he have different pitches or was it a shower of 70mph fastballs?
_Rob - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 12:55 PM EDT (#37688) #
Menechino broke 80 once or twice, Jobu.
_Jobu - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 01:07 PM EDT (#37689) #
Wow....not bad. Did he pitch in the minors or something?

PS. By this time tomorrow I'll be in Montreal. Tune in saturday night as I'll have seats behind homeplate in row (VV). I'll bring a sign saying something along the lines of "THE CHEER CLUB IN MONTREAL - GO EXPOS!!!". Or a better sign if someone can think of it. Gotta represent.
_Rob - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#37690) #
He pitched the ninth inning once for Oakland in 2000, actually. Must have been the same deal: blowout game, bullpen tired. He faced eight batters, and gave up six hits, including a homerun.

By this time tomorrow I'll be in Montreal. Tune in saturday night as I'll have seats behind homeplate

Well, they are playing the Braves, so it's on TBS. I'll look for the sign.
_Jobu - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#37691) #
Well, if you get the score, it should be on there too. I've been watching the score all day hoping for some clips of Menechino pitching but there was nothing :( I cant believe I'll never see it. I've been waiting my whole life to see a player pitch for the jays. (I'm a guy who LOVES oddities).
_Rob - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 01:58 PM EDT (#37692) #
Well, here's a picture (from CBS Sportsline):


And Rick Leach pitched for the Jays in 1984...I don't know if you were alive for that or not.
_Jobu - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 02:01 PM EDT (#37693) #
I was about 1. Can't imagine why I didnt have more memory of Rick Leach ;)

Anyone been to the O before? Whats to look for inside there?
_Jobu - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 04:01 PM EDT (#37694) #
By the way, not to be a wet blanket, Im as much up for kooky signs as the next person, but here's some quotes from mlb.com about the Jays blowout and Menechino's pitching:

"I don't want to talk about it, guys," Menechino said. "We got our (butts) kicked."

"Sometimes, when a position player has to pitch in a game, there's some fun and enjoyment out of it," said Gibbons. "There wasn't any of that. We were just trying to get through it and somehow survive it."


Take it as you will folks. Enjoy the Mariners while I'm out of town.... sigh... again.
_NYJaysFan36 - Tuesday, August 31 2004 @ 05:04 PM EDT (#37695) #
Yeah, somewhere I read something about how Menechino didn't think it was funny at all and that he didn't want to make a mockery of the game by laughing about it with the media. Pretty classy stuff. I would have been like Mark Grace out there a couple years ago. But now that Frank said that, I feel like a jerk. hahaha

-Bob (File)
Named For Hank - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 12:55 PM EDT (#37696) #
Well, that pretty much puts a damper on that banner, don't it? Good thing I didn't print it yet.

Who's coming out tonight?
_Alex Obal - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 02:25 PM EDT (#37697) #
I'm in for tonight.
Named For Hank - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 03:36 PM EDT (#37698) #
I'll be there around 8:30.
Thomas - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#37699) #
I'll probably be doing the whole Oakland series, so I might take today and/or tomorrow off. If Frankie doens't like the sign, that certainly puts a damper on it. Cha Seung Baek makes his MLB debut tomorrow, so I might come up for that.
_Useless Tyler - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 03:57 PM EDT (#37700) #
I shall be there, missing the predetermined outcome of the World Cup game.
Craig B - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 04:01 PM EDT (#37701) #
Guys, if the team haven't shrugged off that defeat yet, they're in much, much worse shape than we thought. And if they can't have a laugh at "Menechino for Closer", you may as well stick a fork in the whole lot of 'em.
_6-4-3 - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 04:12 PM EDT (#37702) #
I'm glad someone said that, otherwise I would've felt awkward wearing my hot-off-the-press "Menechino for Closer" ceremonial t-shirt.
Named For Hank - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 04:26 PM EDT (#37703) #
Heh, I wanna see that, 6-4-3.
_6-4-3 - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#37704) #
I'll be at the game tonight, it's one of the games in my flex-pack. Incredibly, the ticket guy decided that I'd rather have a nice view of Raul Ibanez, and not Ichiro!, so I'm in the 200 level, somewhere in leftfield.

The math for the t-shirt worked out like this:

2 tickets for the game: $46 + handling
2 souvenir retro hats : free not avaliable.
_6-4-3 - Wednesday, September 01 2004 @ 04:37 PM EDT (#37705) #
Oops. Stupid preview button wasn't where I thought it was . . .
continued:

2 souvenir retro hats free not avaliable
Putting up with arrogant Yankee fans: free
Seeing Kerry Ligtenberg give up a grand slam: free
Leaving early, via subway : 4.50
T-shirt: $5.00
Iron-on tranfer: free
Commemerating the following stat line: Menechino .3 IP, 2 hits: Priceless.
_Smack - Thursday, September 02 2004 @ 10:54 AM EDT (#37706) #
How easy is it to break 80 mph?

I went to the CNE the other day and tried the pitching cage in the better living centre. I only hit 76 on it but I could swear I was hitting 76 in bantam. Well I was more of a shortstop but im a thrower not a pitcher. These radar guns suck. I would have liked to think I could atleast hit 90 when I chose.
Thomas - Thursday, September 02 2004 @ 11:55 AM EDT (#37707) #
Cerutti raised the pitching to Frank in his post-game interview on RSN and he didn't smile at all. He answered, "my arm's fine" curtly, and certainly gave the impression that he didn't want to talk about it.
_6-4-3 - Thursday, September 02 2004 @ 12:57 PM EDT (#37708) #
Yeah, I saw that after "Jays in an hour". Still, the "Menechino for Closer" shirt might retire 1 - 0 (it might make a brief final appearance Friday vs Oakland), and it certainly inspired Frank to hit a big home run. At least, I took credit for it.

Menechino's had a great season. He's gone from "That guy we got for a bag of balls" during the injury part of the season, to a decent guy who could play almost anywhere, to a guy that should get a decent amount of playing time. From the interview, it sounds like that trade from Oakland and the opportunity to get a lot of at-bats has really helped him out.

He's supplied my favourite moment of the season, too. For father's day, I got my dad tickets to see Randy Johnson pitch. As he's throwing his warm-up tosses, I'm going on and on about how there's no way that the Blue Jays line-up can get anything off of him. Menechino leads off, and lines RJ's first pitch into the right field bullpen. I'd like to see him inherit Berg's position on the team, so long as his experiments are as mop-up man, and not left-fielder.
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