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The Blue Jays first round selection is David Purcey, LHP, Oklahoma University

6'5" 240 lbs, 22 years 1 month
Burley 2004 ranking: 34

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	FIP
2004 118.2 3.11 9.9 4.1 0.4 -0.3
2003 72.2 5.2 8.4 5.1 0.5 0.6
2002 75.1 3.35 10.1 5.3 0.4 0.0


From MLB.com: Extra-large. Frame. Thick, strong body & legs. Impressive physically. Similar body as matt white. No windup, high 3/4 delivery. Fair mechanics. Long arc, proper action. Fb velocity avg, touches above avg at times, most ride. Slurve-type cb. Occaisional straight changeup. Big body & impressive arm. Usable fb.

From BA: He earned a reputation as a one-pitch pitcher who lacked consistency. Purcey started to shed that tag last summer in the Cape Cod League. His curveball and overall command are much improved, if still inconsistent. He also has answered questions about his mental toughness by showing first-round stuff every time out this spring. He's a vastly better pitcher in 2004, and Purcey has the best pure arm among lefthanders in the draft.

Sandwich pick: Zach Jackson, LHP, Texas A&M University
6'5" 215 lbs; Age - 21 years, 1 month
Burley 2004 Ranking: 73
Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	FIP
2004 112 3.54 9.6 2.1 0.4 -0.8
2003 112.2 4.31 6.0 2.3 1.0 0.8
2002 83 4.77 5.0 2.6 0.9 1.0


MLB: Large frame. Excellent body. Physical specimen. Broad sloped shoulders. Strong, muscular, durable, proportioned, athletic build. Quick full windup, 3/4 delivery. Loose, easy arm. Hides ball well. Sneaky quick fb w/ deception, most 89-91, armside tail, occaisional cuts. Ball gets on hitter quick. Not afraid to pitch inside. Circle change w/ sink, deception. 3/4 slurve w/ signs tight rotation, depth. Pitchability. Shows potential 3 ml pitches w/ plus command & deception. Excellent make-up.

BA: Teams that covet performance won't be able to ignore his numbers from the Cape Cod League last summer (6-0, 1.88). Jackson commands three solid pitches: an 88-93 mph fastball that holds its velocity for nine innings, a slider that's a big improvement over his old curveball and a circle changeup. He's durable and athletic at 6-foot-5 and 230 pounds, and the fact that he's lefthanded enhances the total package even more.

Round 2: Curtis Thigpen, C, University of Texas
6'0", 188 Lbs, 21 years 2 months
Burley Ranking: 51

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg
2004 251 0.363 0.457 0.542
2003 196 0.311 0.408 0.464
2002 82 0.256 0.410 0.390


MLB: Medium frame. Sloping shoulders. Well defined, lean, muscular, athletic build. Body type similar to brad ausmus. Balanced stance w/ proper hitting approach. Line drive stroke w/ hand quickness. Uses whole field. Athletic, agile behind plate. Playable hands. Runs well for catcher. Likes to play. Aggressive. Solid make-up. Player w/ bat potential. Also seen at 1b.

BA: Teams love his makeup and versatility. Thigpen is an adequate defender. He plays a lot of first base for the Longhorns, and has enough athleticism to play anywhere on the diamond except for shortstop and center field. Offensively, he makes consistent line-drive contact and has some gap power. Thigpen could be very useful in the major leagues as a backup catcher who could play multiple positions.


Round 3: Adam Lind, 1B, University of South Alabama
6'2", 190 Lbs, 20 years 10 months
Burley Ranking: 315

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg
2004 183 0.355 0.423 0.579
2003 209 0.349 0.398 0.555


MLB: Comment: tall, well prop build. Broad shoulders. Room to fill out. Built like todd helton. Upright, slightly spread out at plate. Gets bat head through the zone. Shows power to all fields. Nice set-up at plate. Arm is playable w/ some carry. Better runner underway.

BA: Lind is a draft-eligible sophomore who will go as far as his bat takes him. He's put together a consistent career for South Alabama,showing a fluid stroke with good bat speed and raw power potential. His swing played well with wood last summer as he hit .269 (well above league average) in the Cape Cod League. Lind isn't a great athlete, making him a fringy defender in left field and better suited for first base.


Round 3: Danny Hill, RHP, University of Missouri
5' 11", 202 Lbs, 22 years 7 months
Burley Ranking: 162

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	FIP
2004 106.2 4.39 8.0 2.9 0.6 0.0
2003 49 4.59 7.7 2.6 0.7 0.2


MLB: Comment: medium, compact, athletic frame. Broad shoulders. Strength through chest area. Muscular thighs & legs. Minimal strength gains. No windup, 3/4 angle. Fb riding life, occaisional sink, most 90-92. Aggressive, not afraid to pitch inside. Throws k's. Flashes quality 3/4 tilt slider, tight, sharp break, outpitch, plus at times. Fb velocity & slider much improved, split better in past. Competes well. Good athlete.

BA: Hill doesn't have a classic pitcher's body at 5-foot-11 and 202 pounds and wasn't drafted last year. But he does have two solid pitches--an 89-92 mph sinker and a slider--and should make a good pro reliever. His fastball has reached 94 mph, and his splitter has its moments.

Round 4 - Casey Janssen, RHP, UCLA
6'4", 210 Lbs, 22 years 9 months
Burley Rating: 31

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	FIP
2004 116.2 3.16 8.0 2.3 0.5 -0.2
2003 72 5.88 9.1 3.1
2002 44.1 4.06 9.6 4.7 0.4 0.0


MLB: Comment: tall, lean, well proportioned body. Long, loose muscles. Square shoulders. Narrow waist. Strong, well defined legs. Room to carry more weight. No windup, high 3/4 arm. Side step to start. High leg kick. Occaisional major league fb w/ sinking action when down. Good rotation on both cb & slider. Slider most effective breaking pitch. Good motion on changeup. Mixes pitches well. Throws k's w/ all. Good competitor. Chance to be sinker ball pitcher.

BA: Janssen was a two-way player for the first three years of his career and has an athletic 6-foot-4, 210-pound body. His fastball touches 92 mph at times and his slider and changeup have improved and usually are average offerings, and he commands them all well.

Round 5: Ryan Klosterman, SS, Vanderbilt University
5'11", 175 Lbs, 22 years 1 month
Burley Ranking: 87

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg
2004 241 0.349 0.421 0.560
2003 219 0.283 0.375 0.416


BA: Klosterman was a Cape Cod League all-star in 2003 and carried that momentum to the spring, showing solid bat speed and loads of baseball savvy. His footwork, deft hands and quick transfer help him get away with fringy arm strength.

Round 6: Cory Patton, OF, Texas A&M University
5' 10", 210 Lbs, 22 years, 0 months
Burley Ranking: 84

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg
2004 221 0.335 0.428 0.593
2003 257 0.331 0.401 0.549


MLB: Large frame. Broad, sloped shoulders. Squatty, thick, strong, overall build. Body type similar to matt stairs. Severe open stance, flat bat. Hand hitch w/ lots of movement. Bat potential. Strength, quickness w/ lift for future plus pwr potential. Ball jumps off bat. Just hits. Avg arm w/ online carry. Offensive, run producing type bat potential.

BA: Cory Patton swings one of the meanest bats in Texas. Patton, has frame that one scout compared to Matt Stairs', was the National Junior College Athletic Association's player of the year in 2002. He runs and moves OK for his size and has a plus arm in right field. He went 8-1 on the mound in 2002, with his fastball clocked at 88-89 mph.

Round 7: Randy Dicken, RHP, Shippensburg University
6' 1", 195 Lbs, 21 years 10 months
Burley Rating: N/A - Division II

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	
2004 73.2 1.59 12.7 2.3 0.2


MLB: Comment: strong frame. Broad shoulders. Solid lower half. Potential to add weight & strength. 3/4, loose arm. Sink action fb, locates well. Mixes in 12 to 6 cb. Decent command. Works corners. Not overpowering, just gets job done.

BA: Dicken put up stellar numbers this year against mediocre competition. The righthander has some arm strength, topping out at 92-93 mph, but has a max effort delivery and poor command. Dicken throws a decent splitter, but his slow curve needs work.

Round 8: Chip Cannon, 1B, Citadel
6'5", 215 Lbs, 22 years 6 months
Burley Rating: 3

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg
2004 232 0.358 0.514 0.681
2003 206 0.335 0.459 0.612


BA: 1B/RHP Chip Cannon will be a good senior sign with lefthanded power and a discerning eye at the plate. He showed power with wood last summer, leading the Coastal Plain League with eight home runs. He has arm strength and pitches for The Citadel, but his lack of agility probably limits him to first base, though he has played plenty of third in his career.

Round 9: Joey Metropoulos, 1B/3B, USC
6'1", 230 Lbs, 20 years 8 months
Burley Rating: 261

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg
2004 203 0.286 0.424 0.498
2003 209 0.321 0.423 0.560
2002 193 0.352 0.463 0.653


MLB: Comment: large, fully matured body. Broad shoulders. Muscular upper body defined arms, strong wrists. Powerful legs. Bigger matt williams. Wraps bat. Aggressive fb hitter approach. Powerful, quick bat. Ball jumps off bat w/ authority. Plus-plus pwr. Avg arm, on-line throws. Competitive instincts. Too much pwr to ignore. Good make-up, team player, fun to be around.

BA: Metropoulos led the Cape Cod League in home runs last summer and was expected to be the top slugger in the college ranks this spring. But teams pitched around the 6-foot-1, 230-pounder on an underachieving USC team and he fell short of expectations, hitting just nine homers, while batting .286. Despite his big, powerful frame, Metropoulos moves well defensively.

Round 10: Brian Hall, 2B Stanford
6'0", 190 Lbs, 22 years 4 months
Burley Ranking: 112

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg
2004 236 0.356 0.422 0.559
2003 266 0.293 0.349 0.462
2002 150 0.267 0.327 0.407


MLB: Medium frame. Lean, athletic build. Broad, rounded shoulders. Evenly proportioned. Strong. Sound mechanics. Aggressive w/ bat. Generates bat speed through zone, line drive stroke w/ occaisional pwr. Run scorer, will steal some bags, runs bases well. Makes routine play, proper routes, covers ground. Accurate arm. Athletic player w/ instincts for the game. Good bat speed, chance to hit, occaisional hr. Tools play better in cf. Base stealing threat.

BA: The versatile Hall was a touted prep recruit from New Mexico who struggled early in his Stanford career. However, he overcame a slow start with a long hitting streak to push his average close to .400. He showed improved plate discipline and more strength, enabling him to drive balls. He's also a sound base runner who knows how to steal a base. Hall has played outfield, third base and first base for Stanford but profiles best at second in pro ball.

Round 11: Kristian Bell, Blinn Junior College
6'0", 185 Lbs, 20 years 5 months
Burley Ranking: N/A

MLB: Medium frame. Sloped shoulders. Lean, proportioned, athlete, build overall strength. Mature body, body type similar to Greg Maddux. No windup, high 3/4 to 3/4 maximum effort delivery. Quick, strong arm. Heavy, sinking fb, most 90 -93. 12 to 6, downer cb, tight rotation w/ quick, sharp break. Aggressive, attacks hitters. Plus stuff at times. Size & mechanics. Small rhp w/ very quick arm & ability to spin cb.

BA: Juco RHP is just 6 feet tall and has a maximum-effort delivery, but he has a 90-94 mph fastball with life, not to mention an average curveball.

Round 12: Eric Nielsen, OF, UNLV
6'0", 205 Lbs, 22 years 7 months
Burley Rating: 30

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg
2004 247 0.405 0.510 0.709
2003 197 0.365 0.469 0.569
2002 225 0.356 0.426 0.471


MLB: Medium, compact frame. Stocky build. Sloping shoulders. Barrel chest. Well develop. Strong & durable. Similar to paul loduca. Narrow, upright, open stance. Hard, consistent contact. Top hand authority, has added loft to swing. Gap shots mostly, occaisional hr. On-line throws. Makes routine plays. Fearless & aggressive. Plays w/ passion. All business. Has hit at every level. Hand speed & strength to hit. Pwr potential could suprise w/ time. Solid defense & arm.

BA: UNLV has one of the most senior-dominated teams in the country. Their three top hitters are seniors, led by Mountain West Conference player of the year Eric Nielsen. Nielsen is an adequate defender with average arm strength.

Round 13: Kyle Yates, RHP Texas
5'11", 190 Lbs, 21 years 5 months
Burley Rating: 275

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	FIP
2004 40.1 3.12 10.1 4.3 0.2 -0.5


Round 14: Jordan Timm, LHP, Wisconsin-Oshkosh
6'6", 230 Lbs, 23 years 6 months
Burley Rating: N/A

MLB: Large frame. Strong, mature, well proportioned. Body type similar to jack cust. Wide, upright stance. Donald & renee. Strength in swing, occaisional hr pwr. Arm playable. Outfield reactions & instincts, proper technics. Will catch ball. Avg runner w/ base running instincts, wants to steal. Mature physically. Aggressive player.

BA: LHP Jordan Timm was Wisconsin's top college prospect in 2003 but has regressed as a senior. Though his performance has been fine (7-4, 2.38, 98 strikeouts in 83 innings), his velocity dips to 84-86 mph two innings into a game. He has made strides with his slurve and changeup, but more velocity is expected out of a 6-foot-6, 235-pounder.

Round 15: Mike MacDonald, RHP, Maine
6'1", 200 Lbs, 22 years 7 months
Burley Rating: 158

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	FIP
2004 92.2 3.11 8.9 2.6 0.0 -1.1
2003 82.1 3.28 9.0 1.9
2002 86.1 3.44 7.7 2.9


BA: RHP Mike MacDonald should get drafted as a senior. He throws 86-89 mph with a decent breaking pitch, but lacks projection.

Round 16 - Jose Castro, SS, Puerto Rico Baseball Academy
5'8", 160 Lbs, 17 years 7 months
Burley Ranking: N/A

MLB: Small frame. Lean, wiry build. Loose & agile. Slightly sloped shoulders. Fair muscular development. Slight open stance, sets up far from plate, avg stride. Slight uppercut swing w/ good acceleration. Contact hitter. Alley pwr. Aggressive at plate. Uses whole field. Strong infielding ability. Excellent hand-eye. Good carry on throws. Good turns on bases. Astute, total concentration in game. Projects to hit from left side.

Round 17: Michael Cooper, RHP, Santa Ana College
6'6", 220 Lbs, 20 years 5 months
Burley Rating: N/A

Round 18: Joey McLaughlin, P, Oklahoma City University
6'0", 178 Lbs, 22 years 4 months
Burley Rating: N/A


The first day of the draft is now concluded. The draft will finish the final 32 rounds tomorrow.
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_Sneeps - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:54 AM EDT (#58460) #
Why, oh why, do I have to work at 1:30 tomorrow. Arghhhhhhh!!!
_Ron - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:39 AM EDT (#58461) #
I don't know any of the prospects but a LHP flamethrower would be nice:)
robertdudek - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:49 AM EDT (#58462) #
Here is my statitical ranking of draft-eligible position players. The ranking is based on hitting - adjusted for strength of schedule, park and the player's speed.

No attempt is made to adjust for position other than adjusting for speed, so catchers who can handle their position defensively will be shortchanged. Rankings are based only on 2004 data. These players are all draft-eligible according to my best sources, thus it is possible that some players have been misclassified.

Under 22 (as of draft day):

1 to 10: Stephen Drew, Richie Robnett, Kurt Suzuki, Jeff Fiorentino, Dustin Pedroia, Danny Putnam, Jason Vargas, Brian Bixler, Mike Ferris, Dallas Morris

11 to 20: Eric Patterso, Brett Anderson, Andrew Toussaint, Carl Lipsey, Clay Timpner, Jeremy Pickrel, J.C. Holt, Paco Figueroa, Brett Gardner, Landon Burt

21 to 30: Matt Young, Jose Delgado, Hunter Pence, Jonny Ash, Nate Sutton, B.J. Szymanski, Donald Brickle, Eddy Martinez-Est., Jeff Frazier, Justin Merendino

Over 22 (as of draft day)

1 to 10: Ryan Jones, Matt Vanderbosch, Drew Moffitt, Matt Macri, Chip Cannon, Nick Blasi, P.J. Hiser, Ryan Welborn, Mike Hughes, Logan Sorensen
_Eric - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:53 AM EDT (#58463) #
Pitching, I'd like to see Justin Orenduff. Bauxites have talked about David Purcey, but I'm skeptical of inconsistent college pitchers with questionable mechanics.

Hitting, Mike Ferris or Eddy Martinez-Esteve (if he's signable).
_Bryan Smith - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 04:34 AM EDT (#58464) #
http://www.all-baseball.com/nextyear
Hey Blue Jays fans, hope you enjoy the draft, and just wanted to let you know that I just completed my little draft recap over at my site, Wait 'Til Next Year. I've got the Blue Jays deciding between lefties Zach Jackson and David Purcey with their first choice, and then settling in on Jackson. With their second choice, I see Riccardi landing Boston College right-hander Chris Lambert. We'll see...
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 08:23 AM EDT (#58465) #
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/
BA is reporting that Matt Bush, signed for $3.1 million on Sunday
with the Padres.
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 08:32 AM EDT (#58466) #
It's going to be interesting seeing how far the Scott Boras clients fall in todays draft. Baseball America is reporting that Jered Weaver could fall as fall as the 17th pick with the Dogers taking him.Baseball America is also saying that since the Dogers have another first round pick, as well as a sandwich pick, they could play hard ball with Weaver since they have the other two picks, and if he does not agree to their terms they would just let him go and get a sandwich pick if he goes unsigned for next years draft.
_johnnnyS99 - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 08:38 AM EDT (#58467) #
Baseball America has Eric Beatie as Torontos pick at #32 , they say he could pitch in AA right now and was the Caps best pitcher last summer.
_johnnnyS99 - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 08:42 AM EDT (#58468) #
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/Sports/2004/06/07/488960.html
Bob Elliot, thinks Josh Fields and David Purcey are strong Candidates to come to the jays as well. COMN
_Brent - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 08:55 AM EDT (#58469) #
Just an FYI for anyone who will be following along pick by pick (but not necessarily on the radio):

CBS's DraftTracker was updated pick by pick last year and was probably the best site for keeping updated.

I'm at work today, so it doesn't look like I can have the Draft audio streaming (I wish I could!), so hopefully CBS can fill this gaping whole in my life.
_Tassle - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 08:58 AM EDT (#58470) #
Didn't JP pull the old focus in on the guy you don't really want so people won't notice your interest in the guy you really do want with Aaron Hill last year? Because I keep hearing Purcey in connection with the B-Jays, which makes me think that they are focusing their efforts on him and really have somebody else entirely in mind.

Also, you guys think there's any chance of JP blowing the budget if Drew or Weaver falls far enough?
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:14 AM EDT (#58471) #
MLB.com also has a draft tracker that should be updated regularly. Their Draft Tracker also has scouting reports and scouting video of each player.

MLB Radio also will have the draft live... i.e. they are actually relaying the conference call. You don't have to have RealPlayer anymore to get MLB Radio... either Real or Windows Media will work (great for people like me who are on a Windows platform at work but can't install Real). Their coverage starts at 12:50.

Baseball America is reporting that Jered Weaver could fall as fall as the 17th pick with the Dogers taking him

I could see that happening, but honestly I think the Mets would be making a mistake if they let Weaver go by with the third pick. With the arms in the Mets' system, they would have a good shot at building a dominant rotation if they could land Weaver. And in New York, you have to spend money to make money.
_johnnnyS99 - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:15 AM EDT (#58472) #
Josh Fields, and Danny Putnam, should be on the top of JP's list in regards to position prospects, Mike Ferris could be a possibiility as well, with only Vito in the system for 1b prospects.
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:16 AM EDT (#58473) #
Re: Also, you guys think there's any chance of JP blowing the budget if Drew or Weaver falls far enough?

Not if Weaver's still asking for Mark Prior type money.
_Chris H - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:16 AM EDT (#58474) #
I would be surprised to see the Jays take Purcey or Jackson. Too inconsistent. I was thinking they may take pitchers Orenduff or Michael Rogers (although i dont think he pitched well this weekend)...but my bet is on a positional player like Josh Fields 3B or Kurt Suzuki CA...
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:19 AM EDT (#58475) #
Didn't JP pull the old focus in on the guy you don't really want so people won't notice your interest in the guy you really do want with Aaron Hill last year?

According to Chasing Steinbrenner yes.

There hasn't been many quotes from the team (that I've seen at least) but I see Zack Jackson the most, and David Purcey has been getting talk ever since we found out JP went to watch Okl/Okl St.

Baseball America has Eric Beatie as Torontos pick at #32 , they say he could pitch in AA right now and was the Caps best pitcher last summer.

What's tough is that his current competition is really low in Division II. He'd be getting selected off of his Cape performance, which I think the Jays really pay attention to.

Is there a Cape League website?
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:20 AM EDT (#58476) #
I know Michael Rogers is a highschool pitcher, but JP would be insane not to take him if he is still on the board. Unfortunately I think there is very little change of Michael Rogers still being availible when the jays pick.
_johnnnyS99 - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:20 AM EDT (#58477) #
Kurt should be available with pick #32 hats too bad, we cant afford Weaver. The draft is supposed to be a way the weaker teams get weaker hence the rankings gerrrrr!
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:24 AM EDT (#58478) #
Damn, very little chance of Michael Rogers still being availible when the jays pick.
_Chris H - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:31 AM EDT (#58479) #
Goatboy - think you are confused. Mark Rogers is the high school pitcher who should be off the board early. I was refering to Michael Rogers of North Carolina State University...no way the Jays take a high school pitcher.
_Chris H - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:33 AM EDT (#58480) #
I would be surprised if Suzuki makes it to #32. I think the A's snatch him up with one of their first round picks...
_Brent - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:33 AM EDT (#58481) #
Is there a Cape League website?

Here is the official site for the Cape Cod League.

BA has some more detailed information including:
- Statistics and
- a Top 30 prospect listing.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:39 AM EDT (#58482) #
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/Sports/2004/06/07/488960.html
Elliot's column today. COMN.

The Jays, who also have a compensation pick may use it to take right-hander Matt Fox of Central Florida. They have a good feel for Fox since his batterymate is Drew Butera, son of Jays advance scout Sal Butera.

Interesting connection, and it would be a Coach approved pick!
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:40 AM EDT (#58483) #
Chris H sorry you're right, but I still like Mark Rogers the high school pitcher out of Maine, looks like he has a big future, even though the Jays are not likely to draft him.
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 09:43 AM EDT (#58484) #
Mark Rogers would be an awful pick. A cold-weather high school pitcher who has faced a very low level of competition? You draft that guy, you're practically begging for a blown arm. Let him go to college, if he's still in one piece in three years think about him then.

Of all the top-rated HS pitchers, he's by far the worst one.

Watch the video of Rogers at mlb.com. Notice how he can't even hit the glove with no hitter there? Notice how his "potential hammer curve" hangs high? Geez, in the second at-bat he faces a little kid who is so scared he concedes the entire outer half of the plate. His fastball has a little tailing movement, but nothing that a pro couldn't hit.

His mechanics (there's some good side-view shots at the end of the video) don't look bad, and there may be a little more velocity in him. He throws the sh** out of the ball, though (I don't know why the scout says he "makes it look easy" in the report... Rogers looks like he's working pretty hard) so he might not have a lot of room to get faster - not that he needs it, really.
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 10:00 AM EDT (#58485) #
Here are Purcey's stats I pulled of Bob Elliott article, 9-5 with a 3.11 earned run average with 54 walks and 130 strikeouts in 118 2/3 innings. It the 54 walks in 118 innings that catch my attention. If you look back on the past two drafts I just don't see the jays drafting someone who has as much trouble finding the plate as Purcey, at least not in the early rounds.
_Smack - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 10:34 AM EDT (#58486) #
In terms of positional players, how is the defense of Ferris? Does he really have a future at 1b? If we go extreme GB with our pitching, we will need a good fielding infield for teh future, and I say draft Ferris only if he will be accountable both on offense and defense.

I remember Chip Cannon being a decent fielder, perhaps getting him in later rounds will be sufficient.
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 10:39 AM EDT (#58487) #
Smack, Ferris is generally projected an average 1B defensively. He does have good hands, but none of his other skills - apparently - jump out at you, so if you're looking for a top fielder at first I'd have to say no.
_Brent - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 10:42 AM EDT (#58488) #
As I have said before:

Draft Chip Cannon!
Thomas - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:02 AM EDT (#58489) #
Alright, if Rogers is not all he's cracked up to be, and is quite overrated comparaed to his fellow high first round picks, which team do we think is going to pick this Colt Griffin of the '04 draft?
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:07 AM EDT (#58490) #
Milwaukee.
Thomas - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:09 AM EDT (#58491) #
Does anyone know if there's ever been any serious discussion about televising the first few (say two) rounds of the MLB draft? I know people here and there have occasionally bandied about the idea, but has there ever been any serious discussion about it?
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:20 AM EDT (#58492) #
Problem is, there's nothing to televise really. I mean, how boring are the NFL or NHL drafts to watch? It's mind-numbing if you ask me. And unlike those other sports, many of the players are actually playing right now, so it's doubtful whether they'd make the trip when they have practice.

At any rate, there will be TV coverage (streaming video coverage) available of the first five (?) rounds at MLB.com.
Coach - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:27 AM EDT (#58493) #
I didn't know about the Butera connection with Fox. That's great; it can never hurt to know more about a kid's personality. When it comes to "character" issues, I believe it's far more important to avoid potential problems (see Hamilton, Josh) but it never hurts to have the definitive word on leadership, work ethic, coachability and other intangible assets. Based solely on Matt's evolution as pitcher, and the possibility of continued improvement, I'd be delighted with him as the sandwich pick.

I'm not clairvoyant, don't have any inside information, and have never seen any of these guys, so I don't have a clue who the Jays will take first. I'm 100% confident that they will have done their homework, and issues like signability will have been considered. There's no "sure thing" at #16 in this draft -- Purcey, Jackson or Fields all sound fine to me, and if they go another way, I won't be the least bit surprised. I'll just welcome all the newest Fighting Jays fledglings to the flock and wish them all good health as pros.

My young friend Kris Dabrowiecki, who was too busy with Team Ontario, Team Canada and pre-draft workouts to pitch for our high school team this year, is waiting for the phone to ring today. BA rates him fourth among Canadian high schoolers, and he's seventh on Bob Elliott's list of draft-eligible Canadians. Because of the visa issues, and because he's got the scholarship to Northeastern as a perfectly viable option, I'm not sure where he will be picked, or by whom. A 6'4" righty strike-throwing machine with intelligence and dedication, Kris can't really lose; three years at a Division I school will only enhance his profile, but I think he's ready for short-season pro ball and more than one MLB team may agree. My guess is that the Jays, who have scouted him extensively, would prefer to take him tomorrow and hope that he would go to a Florida juco as a draft-and-follow pick, but he may not stay on the board that long.

Best of luck on this very exciting day, Kris!
_JohnnyS99 - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:36 AM EDT (#58494) #
Jp is looking forward to drafting High school talent again.

"When we took over, we needed to restock the organization quickly and do it with college players," says Ricciardi, whose first-round picks, infielders Russ Adams from North Carolina and Aaron Hill from LSU, are in Triple-A and Double-A, respectively, and unquestioned major league prospects. "People forget I am a scout, first and foremost. I look forward to the day when we've come far enough as an organization that we draft a high school player in the first round."
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:49 AM EDT (#58495) #
Time to make some predications. First round I think it will be one of three players Zack Jackson, Josh Fields or Justin Orenduff, and probaby in that order.

Sandwich pick, I am hoping for one of either Matt Fox or Eric Beattie. I made post 5 weeks ago hyping Fox and Beattie so it's good to see a couple of my picks getting some notice as potential jays picks
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:53 AM EDT (#58496) #
Problem is, there's nothing to televise really. I mean, how boring are the NFL or NHL drafts to watch?

That's what the NFL told ESPN when ESPN asked about televising the draft 20-some years ago. The NFL draft pulls big ratings.

I think the baseball draft is very comparable to the hockey draft. You're looking at players who aren't going to contribute for a few years (with exceptions of course). If the hockey draft can be televised in the US (where hockey is so popular it got bumped by 'Dream Job' on Sunday nights) I can't see why baseball can't put on a draft show as well. Just put an ESPN suit, Gammons, and a Baseball America guy together and you'd have a good show.

It's just another example of baseball being in the stone ages.

You'd think they would get the hint. This is the day that MLB.com and Baseball America get their most hits.
_Mike Forbes - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 11:57 AM EDT (#58497) #
I Have Looked Through A Long List Of Pitching Prospects And Viewed The Scouting Reports And Several Players Really Jump Out At MeAnd I've Decided To Mock The Jays First Three Picks...(Scouting Reports By MLB.com)

1. Thomas Diamond: RHP, 6'3, 230 Lbs

COMMENT: LONG FRAME. STRONG, THICK, ATHLETIC BODY. LONG ARMS. BIG HANDS & FEET. GOOD PITCHERS BUILD. SIMILAR TO ROGER CLEMENS. HIGH 3/4 TO OVER HEAD ARM SLOT. SOLID DELIVERY. GOOD EXTENTION ON RELEASE. FB EXPLODES LATE IN ZONE, RIDES IN ON RHH. ALSO PITCHES IN TO LHH. CB HAS BIG, 12-6 BREAK. SLIDER OCCAISIONALLY TIGHT. EXCELLENT MOVEMENT & DECEPTION TO CHANGE UP. RHP W/ A BIG TIME ARM & DOMINANT STUFF TO BECOME A 1 OR 2 STARTER AT ML LEVEL. VERY GOOD MOUND PRESENCE. AGGRESSIVE APPROACH.

2. Huston Street: RHP, 6'0, 190 Lbs

COMMENT: MEDIUM FRAME. SLOPING SHOULDERS. LEAN, PROPORTIONED, ATHLETIC BUILD W/ WIRY STRENGTH. NO WINDUP, LOW 3/4 ARM SLOT W/ DECEPTION IN DELIVERY, TOUGH TO PICK UP. HEAVY, SINK FB, MOST 89-91. BIG, SWEEP SLIDER, 10-5 TILT W/ SHARP BITE, OUT PITCH, VERY TOUGH ON RHH'S. PLUS COMMAND OF BOTH PITCHES. FIERCE COMPETITOR. EXCELLENT MAKEUP. INTANGIBLES. EXCELLENT FEEL FOR PITCHING. DECEPTIVE DELIVERY. WORKS FAST, THROWS K'S. RELEIVER MENTALITY. WINNER. WANTS BALL. FEEDS OFF PRESSURE.

3. James Fasano: 1B, 6'5" 230 Lbs
COMMENT: EXTRA-LARGE FRAME. MUSCULAR BUILD. LONG ARMS, FUTURE UPPER BODY STRENGTH. DEVELOPED, STRONG LOWER HALF. BODY SIMILAR TO JOHN OLERUD. STRAIGHT AWAY STANCE, FRONT FOOT SLIGHTLY CLOSED. SOUND HITTING APPROACH. QUICK BAT THROUGH ZONE. PWR POTENTIAL TO ALL FIELDS. STAYS BACK & INSIDE BALL. KNOWS K ZONE. PLAYABLE DEFENSE, NOTHING FLASHY. HANDLES ROUTINE PLAY. HITTING & PWR POTENTIAL. GOOD IDEA AT THE PLATE. LIKES TO HIT.
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:34 PM EDT (#58498) #
Well, I'm off to make my sandwich pick. I'll be back at 1:00.
_Smack - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:35 PM EDT (#58499) #
Thanks for the info on Ferris...

This description wasnt much help

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/draft/player-capsules/1B

".. Below average arm and not much in the range department, but does have a soft hands and an above average arm."
_JohnnyS99 - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:35 PM EDT (#58500) #
Purcey maybe gone by #16, Orioles taking Stephen Drew would take a ripple effect, Thomas Diomand could slip, but probably not as far as the Jays pick.
_Cristian - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:47 PM EDT (#58501) #
Is everyone's MLB radio connection as crappy as mine? If this is radio, I have little faith that the streaming video coverage will work.
robertdudek - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:49 PM EDT (#58502) #
I'm hoping for J.P. Howell as our sandwich pick. If you look at the video from MLB scouting, his fastball resides in the 86 to 88 range. He has a killer slider at about 80-81. His curve is good and every pitch he throws moves. He probably has as good command of his picthes as any college pitcher, save for Weaver. He doesn't have an overly aggressive delivery, so some work on leg drive might add a couple of MPH to his fastball as he matures.

I think Oakland will take him in the 2nd round if he's available.
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:50 PM EDT (#58503) #
Cristian, they had to reduce the bandwidth on the stream because of the anticipated rush of listeners.

I think the video will work.

I made a last-minute switch in draft strategy and went with the pastrami for my sandwich pick. I like this boy; he has the potential to be a top-shelf starter.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:51 PM EDT (#58504) #
Is everyone's MLB radio connection as crappy as mine?

Mine is very choppy.

BA says the Jays will go with Purcey, and if not Jackson. I have my doubts about Purcey being the pick.
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:53 PM EDT (#58505) #
My radio connection is low-quality but 100% smooth, no chop.
Coach - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:58 PM EDT (#58506) #
Craig, I hope you got a big-league cup of coffee with your sandwich pick.

As long as the audio stream doesn't crash, like it did last year, imperfect quality is fine with me. I notice BA's server is getting slower, and even we may have our capacity tested.

You can e-mail questions to radio@mlb.com where the hosts will answer them throughout the day.
_Rob - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 12:58 PM EDT (#58507) #
Any predictions for the earliest Canadian taken?
Coach - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:01 PM EDT (#58508) #
Rob, I'd guess Philippe-Alexandre Valiquette will go first because he's lefthanded, but he's not in the Francis or Loewen class. Maybe a fifth rounder?
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:03 PM EDT (#58509) #
Rob, I'd go with HS lefty Philippe-Alex Valiquette, who's also BA's top-rated Canadian. Hard-throwing lefty with the potential to add speed, and he's only 17.
Coach - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:04 PM EDT (#58510) #
I always trust Craig on these things, Rob.

Uh-oh, the audio's breaking up already.
_Jonny German - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:06 PM EDT (#58511) #
I call CABAL, how else do you explain those two posts?

I can think of a J.T., a J.J., a C.C., an R.A. currently playing in MLB.. if M'sieu Valiquette made it to the bigs, would he be the first P.A.?
robertdudek - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:07 PM EDT (#58512) #
I've opened a fresh thread for Draft discussion.
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:20 PM EDT (#58513) #
Withthe #16 pick, the Blue Jays took David Purcey, a big lefthanded pitcher from the University of Oklahoma.

From mlb.com:

EXTRA-LARGE. FRAME. THICK, STRONG BODY & LEGS. IMPRESSIVE PHYSICALLY. SIMILAR BODY AS MATT WHITE. NO WINDUP, HIGH 3/4 DELIVERY. FAIR MECHANICS. LONG ARC, PROPER ACTION. FB VELOCITY AVG, TOUCHES ABOVE AVG AT TIMES, MOST RIDE. SLURVE-TYPE CB. OCCAISIONAL STRAIGHT CHANGEUP. BIG BODY & IMPRESSIVE ARM. USABLE FB.

There's also video on Purcey. Click here and move down to his name.
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#58514) #
Welcome to the Toronto Bluejays David Purcey. I guess the bluejays must think they can correct any problems he has with control.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:34 PM EDT (#58515) #
Any guess on the next pick?

Danny Putnam?
_goatboy - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:35 PM EDT (#58516) #
Zack Jackson and Justin Orenduff are still on the board and with the jays having the second sandwich pick I guess we'll find out if the jays had any real interest in them
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:39 PM EDT (#58517) #
Zack Jackson is still out there too. Orenduff, Hoyman, Fox as well.

Putnam, Symzanski, Ferris and Suzuki for position players.

The Jays might get two of these players.
_Mark - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:45 PM EDT (#58518) #
Another reason the NFL draft is popular is because people watching it have heard of the players being taken, due to the popularity of college football. For baseball, I'm guessing 90 percent of the players taken would be unknown to the bulk of the audience. Very very few people follow college baseball closely enough, and even fewer know what's going on in high school.
_Tom - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 01:58 PM EDT (#58519) #
Jays pick Zack Jackson Lhp from Texas A and M with sandwhich pick.
_Cristian - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 02:00 PM EDT (#58520) #
What number is the Jays next pick?
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#58521) #
I believe 57
robertdudek - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 02:20 PM EDT (#58522) #
Thigpen ranked #60 in hitting ability on my list in Division 1 in 2004.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 02:23 PM EDT (#58523) #
Pick 1 - Oklahoma
Pick 2 - Texas A&M
Pick 3 - Texas

Apparently the Big 12 scout for the Jays has a lot of influence.
_Cristian - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#58524) #
I love how Thigpen's MLB bio reads 'likes to play'. I'm glad that the Jays didn't choose one of the many prospects who hate playing baseball.
Thomas - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:04 PM EDT (#58525) #
Next two picks are Adam Lind, 1B, U of South Alabama and Danny Hill, RHP from the U of Missouri.
Thomas - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:15 PM EDT (#58526) #
Sorry. Missed new thread.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:39 PM EDT (#58527) #
Those 2 3rd round picks really stick out as odd ones, in that they weren't high on BA's ranking and weren't high on Craig's rankings.

Apparently the Jays see something in these players that others don't.

Otherwise I like the draft so far through 5 rounds.
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:43 PM EDT (#58528) #
I wouldn't put to much stock in my list. It's nice as a fair comparison for how players are doing in 2004, but that's all.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:45 PM EDT (#58529) #
I know, but BA didn't have them high either.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:47 PM EDT (#58530) #
It's kind of funny that the Jays were apparently debating between Purcey and Jackson and ended up with both. Hopefully this fills the LHP void in the organization.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 03:58 PM EDT (#58531) #
There's a lot more balance to this draft than the other 2 JP drafts. 4 hitters and 4 pitchers so far.
_Jonny German - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 04:16 PM EDT (#58532) #
To anybody who's like me and just skips to the bottom of a thread, check out the top of this thread. Pistol's putting together a real nice summary of the Jays' picks.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 04:25 PM EDT (#58533) #
Thanks.

The real benefit of this thread is for people that check in after the fact.
Craig B - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 04:46 PM EDT (#58534) #
One thing that really shows up in this thread is the Jays' heavy scouting of the Cape League (and the other summer leagues). They believe in it and it's worked pretty well so far, we'll hope for more of the same this year.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 06:40 PM EDT (#58535) #
Picks that I really like relative to draft position:

Zach Jackson - 1
Cory Patton - 5
Chip Cannon - 8
Joey Metropoulos - 9
Eric Nielsen - 12
Coach - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 06:57 PM EDT (#58536) #
In case I haven't said it loud enough, or often enough, GREAT JOB, PISTOL! Really outstanding, from the first preview right through today.

Craig's tremendous breakthrough in statistical analysis of college hitters and pitchers also can't get enough praise, in my opinion. Robert's rankings are also terrific, and as usual, the quality of comments from our readers has been superb.

Thanks to all for making this the busiest day in Batter's Box history, and one of the most interesting.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 07:29 PM EDT (#58537) #
Thank Coach.

Now that I've looked through the profiles again the thing that stands out with the pitchers (besides the usual high strikeout rates) is that there's a lot of height.
_Peter - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 07:39 PM EDT (#58538) #
Why hasnt Micah Owings of Georgia Tech been selected yet, he was projected as a First rounder, and with his size, i couldnt believe he didnt go today. I hope the Jays pick this guy, it seems that everyone has forgotten about him.
Pistol - Monday, June 07 2004 @ 08:12 PM EDT (#58539) #
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1086603031930&call_pageid=969907739730&col=970081600908
Some quotes from JP:

"When you're picking at 16, you're at the disposal of the teams in front of you," Ricciardi said during a conference call. ``Jackson was a bit of a surprise, we didn't think he would be there at 32. When he was, we were ecstatic. We feel we got two of the top-four left-handers in the country."

The Blue Jays plan to start both Purcey and Jackson with the Auburn Doubledays of the rookie New York/Penn League once they sign. Ricciardi believes both could progress quickly through the Jays system.

"We're going to err on the side of caution," said Ricciardi. ``But within a three-four year period they could be pitching the big-leagues.

"Jackson pounds the strike zone. Purcey's not wild, but he's a little bit wilder. With the stuff he has, if he can get the ball in the strike zone, he can move quickly."


Sounds like the David Bush plan for Purcey and Jackson.
_Jason Robar - Tuesday, June 08 2004 @ 07:52 AM EDT (#58540) #
Round 18: Joey McLaughlin, P, Oklahoma City University

Related to the Joey McLaughlin that we all know all too well?
Pistol - Tuesday, June 08 2004 @ 08:31 AM EDT (#58541) #
Yes, that's Junior.
Craig B - Tuesday, June 08 2004 @ 08:44 AM EDT (#58542) #
Peter, players of Owings's caliber don't get forgotten about. Owings has, I'm sure, told teams that he will not sign this year. He's only a sophomore (he's draft-eligible because he's 21) so he has two more years of eligibility. He may be trying to move up into the top of the first round, to secure himself more bonus money.
Craig B - Wednesday, June 09 2004 @ 12:34 PM EDT (#58543) #
Just putting this thread back "on top". Don't forget to check out the article at the top of the thread where Pistol discusses each draftee.
Pistol - Friday, June 11 2004 @ 06:39 PM EDT (#58544) #
http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/040611draft.html
COMN for a BA draft chat.
Pistol - Friday, June 11 2004 @ 08:02 PM EDT (#58545) #
Texas is playing Vandy right now on ESPN. A few Jays draft picks in the game, including the 2nd rounder Curtis Thigpen.
Pistol - Saturday, June 12 2004 @ 01:11 PM EDT (#58546) #
Curtis Thigpen just hit a bomb that hit up high on the scoreboard. The game is on ESPN.
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