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We had a fun conversation yesterday about video games. I thought I'd continue it by discussing five old school baseball video games. Feel free to discuss any game, past or present, baseball or non-baseball.

Home Run - Atari Video Computer System (Atari 2600) - 1978





Awful. Plays just as bad as the graphics look. Yes, there were seriously only three fielders in the game. Or as King Atariputs it:
    What was Atari thinking?! Judging by the label, this is supposed to be baseball, but I wouldn't blame you if you mistook it for something else. The graphics are, even for the late-70's, horrible. There's four white blocks that are your bases, some red and blue blocks put together that are your players, and a big green screen. That's it. The first thing I noticed was that there's no pitcher's mound, you pitch from second base. HUH? They could have made the field a little bigger and added a mound. You can control the ball in this one, I don't know if you consider that a good or bad thing, I for one don't like it. When you swing the bat it's pretty hilarious. It's funny when you compare this stuff to the advanced games of 1986-1990. Very bad, not even good for nostalgia.


More details about the game can be found at Atariage. This game looks even worse when you compare it to:

Major League Baseball - Intellivision - 1979





THIS is more like it. One of the best video games ever created, and the must have game for the Intellivision. Or as the former programmers put it:
    Developed at APh during 1979, Major League Baseball came out in 1980 and went on to become the best selling Intellivision cartridge, with 1,085,700 shipped as of June 4, 1983 (the last date for which figures are available). After Mattel Electronics went out of business, INTV Corp. changed the name of the cartridge to Big League Baseball rather than pay to renew the Major League Baseball trademark license. An M Network Atari 2600 version, called Super Challenge Baseball, was released.


The game was not without its flaws. For one thing, there were no fly balls, only groundballs. But for a game released in 1979, it was years ahead of its time. Intellivision had television and print advertisements where George Plimpton would show Atari's Home Run head-to-head against Intellivision's Major League Baseball. Major League Baseball sold a lot of systems for the Intellivision.

Baseball! - Odyssey 2 - 1978





Magnavox didn't sell many Odyssey 2 systems in Canada, so I imagine most of you won't have ever seen this one. Despite the oddly shaped field, this isn't at all a bad game. Unlike the Intellivision game, you can actually hit fly ball homeruns. This is one of the few sports titles done well on the Odyssey 2, and it's fondly remembered by most O^2 owners, including Earl Green:
    Why exactly do I like the Odyssey 2 baseball game? What the hell do I care for this stripped-down, ultra-simple, painfully two-dimensional version of baseball? Precisely because it is simple. Modern computer sports games are just too damned complex. Baseball! didn't force you to pick existing players based on their RBI or average score per game, nor did it make you struggle to make sense of a vaguely three-dimensional display trying to ape ESPN game coverage. All you did was swing at the ball and run for it. Or try to catch the ball and get those guys out, as many of them as possible, and quick. Baseball! only keeps track of four statistics for you: runs, outs, balls, innings. And best of all, your pixellated protagonists don't go on strike.


Realsports Baseball - Atari Video Computer System (Atari 2600) - 1982





The Plimpton ads were a major thorn in the side of Atari, so they needed to create a baseball game that could rival Major League Baseball. In my opinion, they failed. Quite badly. While this game has some interesting features missing in the Intellivision offering, but the control stinks. David Mrozek is no fan of the game either:
    Unfortunately, due to an apparent lack of play-testing, the game is chock-full of obvious flaws and bugs that spoil the action. The pitching portion is ruined by the fact that every pitch looks the same, straight over the plate. You never know if the pitch is a ball until you let it go or swing right through it! The hitting is weak; balls get hit to the same spots over and over. Atari's attempt at implementing fly balls, having the ball "ring", is ill-conceived. Runner control is surprisingly good - you can even lead off and steal. Intuitive fielding and throwing controls make it fun to toss the ball around. The only problem is that the ball often sails over your teammate's HEAD, forcing him to chase down the ball. The computer does this all the time and it looks absolutely ridiculous. The one-player mode is incredibly tough. Another annoyance is having to wait for all the players to enter/leave the field after every inning (yawn). This is a major disappointment.


AtariAge has more on the game, including screenshots and the instruction manual.

Super Action Baseball - Colecovision - 1983





For some reason this game generally gets poor reviews. I had this game as a kid, and I absolutely loved it. The control system was quite unusual, as described by WildCard:
    Colecovision's only baseball game and first of the Super Action series, Super Action baseball was specially designed to work with the Super Action controllers

    Batting is done with an angled view wherein you see your batter in the bottom-left of the screen and the pitcher at center-right. The top part of the screen is reserved for keeping an eye on the bases. As the ball approaches, your player attempts to hit the ball with his bat to send it flying. A successful hit will result in your player having to run around the bases. Running is done with the "wheel" on the top of the Super Action Controllers. Stealing is also possible.

    Fielding is simple, using the Super Action controllers, players have 4 buttons to correspond to each base. Thus the ball can be thrown at any of the bases instantly.


The Super Action controllers were quite unusual, as shown here. Once you got used to them, though, this game was a ton of fun, and was rivalled only by Major League Baseball on the Intellivision.

Conclusion



Atari couldn't make a baseball game to save it's life until Atari R.B.I. Baseball came out in the late 80's. The Intellivision game is the best of the remaining 3, though the Colecovision game is the best graphically if you ignore the strange palette they used.

What video games are you playing now, or wishing you hadn't given away 5 years go?
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_Max Parkinson - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:37 PM EDT (#41385) #
No doubt, hands down, RBI Baseball.

Not only did I waste Grade 7 at the donut store beside UTS playing it, it's the reason that I bought the original Nintendo. Then, someone at college got a hold of it at a garage sale - there went most of 3rd year.

Shout out to Tony Armas and Ken Dayley!
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:39 PM EDT (#41386) #
No doubt, hands down, RBI Baseball.

Yeah, that was a great one (so were 2, 3, etc.). I thought about including NES games in this, but honestly, there were at least eight or nine great Nintendo baseball games, so I thought I'd save that for another time.
_Max Parkinson - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:41 PM EDT (#41387) #
Sorry to jump the gun on you then...
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:42 PM EDT (#41388) #
Sorry to jump the gun on you then...

Not at all! Like I said, feel free to discuss any game. :)

RE: R.B.I. baseball. Do you remember how many teams were in there, and which teams were included? It wasn't all 26.
_Ryan Day - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#41389) #
One of my favourite games on the old NES was Basewars. (at least, I'm pretty sure that was the title) Baseball played by robots: There were tank-bots, unicycle-bots, hover-bots and humanoid bots. When there was a close play at a base, you had to fight your opponent; if you won, you were safe.

I seem to recall that baseball skills were kind of secondary to being able to beat the crap out of other robots, but it was a heck of a game.
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:49 PM EDT (#41390) #
I looked it up.. apparently there were 8 big league teams and 2 all-star squads.

Here's more info than you ever wanted to know on RBI Baseball: RBI Baseball FAQ.
_Max Parkinson - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:50 PM EDT (#41391) #
Top of my head (Boston and St. Louis met a lot when I was playing...)

Boston
St. Louis
Houston
Mets
San Fran
Minnesota
California
Detroit

Basically the good teams from '86 and '87 (and S.F. for some reason)
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:54 PM EDT (#41392) #
Basically the good teams from '86 and '87 (and S.F. for some reason)

It was all four pennant winners from '86 and '87 (different teams each year). The Giants won the NL West in '87.

What I didn't know (but the FAQ just told me) is that the player stats and rosters were from '86 for the teams that won the pennant in '86, and from '87 for the 1987 winning teams. Weird.

RE: Basewars. That's the right name for the game. It's a lot of fun, even if it's only sortof baseball. It was always more fun to try and make the other guy run out of players than it was to win by scoring more runs.
Leigh - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:55 PM EDT (#41393) #
Max, those eight teams would be the division winners in 1986/1987.
_R Billie - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 12:58 PM EDT (#41394) #
Hardball on the Commodore and PC systems and SNK Superstars on the NES were two that stood out. SNK allowed you to pick your team strength (power, average, speed, pitching, defence, etc) and play a season with your players improving with experience and making higher salaries. Your team also made money based on success. Pretty nifty little game for an 8-bit console at the time.
_Daryn - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:00 PM EDT (#41395) #
I loved the Intelli-vision one..

you actually played against the other guy, it was all in the fingers, not in the stats...

I used to love to just run and see if he could make the throws...

today's "baseball" is too complicated in my view
_Sneeps - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:00 PM EDT (#41396) #
Little League World Series was the best. I rememeber I'd hit a dinger with a fat kid named Albert time after time.
Lucas - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:04 PM EDT (#41397) #
It was a PC game, not a console, but Earl Weaver Baseball fostered my dual love of baseball and statistics.
_Jonny German - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:08 PM EDT (#41398) #
My favourite computer baseball game growing up was Gamestar Baseball for the Commodore 64. I'm going to guess it came out around 1984. The entire field was shown at all times, with the catcher at the middle left of the screen. The players were stick men; the catcher looked like E.T. when he was in his crouch. Baserunning was strange, involving pushing the joystick in different diagonal directions depending on which base you were running to. There were four pitches: fastball, curveball, low pitch, high pitch. A liner into right field would routinely result in the batter being thrown out at first base. I remember the much-slicker Hardball later on, it wasn't nearly as fun to play.
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:08 PM EDT (#41399) #
It was a PC game, not a console, but Earl Weaver Baseball fostered my dual love of baseball and statistics.

I should have mentioned that computer games or okay too.

My friend Greg and I played the heck out of Earl Weaver 2 when we were in highschool. For some reason in our league Twins infielder Chip Hale turned into a Jeff Kent/Brett Boone type player, winning a couple of MVP awards before he retired.
_Asher - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:15 PM EDT (#41400) #
My favourite was RBI Baseball 3 for NES. My brother and I used to play Oakland vs. Toronto every game. I remember Eck could bring it at about 105 MPH.
_Smiley - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:18 PM EDT (#41401) #
Great topic.

I think PETE ROSE BASEBALL for the Atari 2600 is easily the best of the old baseball videogames. I don't think it was surpassed until All-Star Baseball 2002. Seriously.
_Mosely - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:20 PM EDT (#41402) #
Holy crap! I can hardly contain myself at the sheer awesomeness of this thread!

1. I had super action baseball for the Coleco. It was incredible. Those joysticks (my folks just got rid of ours recently) were groundbreaking. Remember how steals werked? You secretly pressed a button, then scrolled like a banshee, and then watched as your runners left the insert view boxes. The pitcher had to call a pitchout to make the play. Talk about excitement. The old man and I wasted hours on this game.

After baseball, we bought "Frontline" which used the same joysticks and was probably my favorite game of all time. Remember the little paper templates that you fit over the keypads of coleco controllers? The scroll wheel, the shielded trigger buttons, the ketypad on the top and the big nobby joystick. Awesome.

2. I need some help with this one. A friend of mine had another game system and baseball game - but I don't think it was the intellivision? The joystick looked similar to the Coleco but the actual stick was at the bottom and the cord came out of the top. The baseball game was pretty innovative - when you hit a shot to the warning track or beyond, the screen switched to the side view of a fielder running backwards towards the wall to grab the ball.

It might have been odyssey but I'm not sure. The graphics and sounds were terrible but it was so much fun to play.
_alsiem - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#41403) #
Can't remember the generic title of one NES baseball game but I think that it was unintentionally racist. All of the clean up hitters where black/latin and were deadly. If you hit one late in the game after they had had a couple of big hits they would charge the mound. The other player had no control over it. The screen then showed everyone swarming out of the dugouts and then a still picture of a dust cloud with feet, gloves and hats sticking out. It was hilarious in that you'd put your worst pitcher in and get him and your opponents best hitter tossed out of the game. Eventually you realized that there was only one counter attack. Swing and hit moon shots ala' Vlad off of impossible pitches but if you struck out you were left fuming. None of the other hitters could be induced to charge the mound, so playing on the stereotypes.

I loved that all baseball games had common controls, ex: push up and A to throw to second.
_Sneeps - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#41404) #
Now there is another game that I remember, but I can't get the name of it to come to me. It was for the Nintendo console, and I'm pretty sure Kirby Puckett was on the cover of it. Hmmm...
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:28 PM EDT (#41405) #
I think PETE ROSE BASEBALL for the Atari 2600 is easily the best of the old baseball videogames. I don't think it was surpassed until All-Star Baseball 2002. Seriously.

I've never played much of it, though I've heard it's quite good. The reviews at AtariAge on quite positive.

The game didn't come out until 1988, really late in the 2600's life. Around 1990 or so Woolco was selling the game in discount bins for about $1.00 each. A couple of years ago I bought a couple unopened cases of the game from a dealer. I traded off most of the copies, but I kept a few for myself.

I need some help with this one. A friend of mine had another game system and baseball game - but I don't think it was the intellivision? The joystick looked similar to the Coleco but the actual stick was at the bottom and the cord came out of the top. The baseball game was pretty innovative - when you hit a shot to the warning track or beyond, the screen switched to the side view of a fielder running backwards towards the wall to grab the ball.

It sounds like an Intellivison game, with little joystick things put over the handles. It might have been World Series Major League Baseball, which was only about a decade ahead of its time. I've got a copy of the game, but I don't own the "Entertainment Computer System", so I can't play it. :(
_David Armitage - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:28 PM EDT (#41406) #
I have fond memories of RBI Baseball too, but there was another game I played on NES that I loved, except it was supposed to be some futuristic version of the game with robots instead of humans. Everytime there was a close play at a base the robots would get into a Street Fighter like battle, and whoever won was subsequently safe or out. I think it might've been called Base Wars for some reason.
_Smiley - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:29 PM EDT (#41407) #
Also: Bo Jackson baseball for the NES is easily the worst baseball game of all time. I don't remember much about the game play other than that it was horrid, but what stands out is that it wasn't licensed by MLBPA, so it had all these players with silly names loosely based on MLB players, but then there was Bo, who could absolutely rake.
Leigh - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:33 PM EDT (#41408) #
so it had all these players with silly names loosely based on MLB players

Kind of like last weekend's AP article in the Star where the author mistakenly opted not to ignore any of the spell-check recommendations. It was a good article on Carlos Deluged, Jason Friseur, Frank Mention and Alexis Rio.
_Elijah - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:35 PM EDT (#41409) #
My fondest memory of Intellivision Baseball was that I played with my friend across the street (he had every game b/c his dad worked for Mattel) and he always killed me. Once, he told me, "I'm going to bunt for a home run." Of course, since there are no flyballs, there's no way to tell whether it was going to stay in the park. He bunted it so well that it got through my infield and split my outfielders. And the next thing I knew, the crowd was cheering a home run. So he bunted a homer. Otherwise, the keypad and the dial thingy were just weird to control
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:35 PM EDT (#41410) #
Now there is another game that I remember, but I can't get the name of it to come to me. It was for the Nintendo console, and I'm pretty sure Kirby Puckett was on the cover of it. Hmmm...

Also: Bo Jackson baseball for the NES is easily the worst baseball game of all time. I don't remember much about the game play other than that it was horrid, but what stands out is that it wasn't licensed by MLBPA, so it had all these players with silly names loosely based on MLB players, but then there was Bo, who could absolutely rake.

I think you guys are talking about the same game.

Roger Clemens MVP Baseball was similar from a liscencing point of view, so it had stuff like the Yankees first baseman was called Donningly. :)

except it was supposed to be some futuristic version of the game with robots instead of humans.

Yep, that was Basewars.
_Sneeps - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:38 PM EDT (#41411) #
No, the game I'm referring to is/was licenced by the MLBPA.
_Mosely - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:38 PM EDT (#41412) #
http://www.destinationemu.com/gaming_systems/arcadia_2001.shtml
It sounds like an Intellivison game, with little joystick things put over the handles. It might have been World Series Major League Baseball, which was only about a decade ahead of its time. I've got a copy of the game, but I don't own the "Entertainment Computer System", so I can't play it. :(

No - I figured it out! The console was called the Arcadia 2001 but for some reason it was called the Leisurevision in Canada (atleast my friend's was). As soon as I saw the catridge box I knew this was the one. Wow.

Anyways - hella good game. Totally innovative.
_Mosely - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:41 PM EDT (#41413) #
Roger Clemens MVP Baseball was similar from a liscencing point of view, so it had stuff like the Yankees first baseman was called Donningly. :)

Didn't it have the Bash brothers too? Of course I mean, Jose and Mark Bash of Oakland fame?
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:42 PM EDT (#41414) #
No - I figured it out! The console was called the Arcadia 2001 but for some reason it was called the Leisurevision in Canada (atleast my friend's was). As soon as I saw the catridge box I knew this was the one. Wow.

Weird. That's really obscure. I've seen *one* Leisurevision in the 8 years I've been collecting games.

If you come down to London, I'd love to play a head to head game against you, as I've got both the system and the cartridge. :)

RE: Kirby Puckett

No, the game I'm referring to is/was licenced by the MLBPA.

Weird. I'm completely drawing a blank. It may have been a Super Nintendo game, I'm not sure.
_Four Seamer - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:42 PM EDT (#41415) #
Ah, the hours spent playing Hardball II on my Commodore 128. My parents thought they were splitting the difference between the Commodore 64 and a PC by getting the 128, but all it did was screw up every game designed for the 64.

Anyways, the best part about Hardball II was suckering a new gamer. For some reason, it didn't matter how fast a player was reputed to be, if he was hitting in the leadoff spot, he'd be a speedster. And if he was in a power slot, he'd hit all kinds of homers, but if you moved him elsewhere in the lineup, he'd just take on that player's characteristics. So late in a game, a new player would always start making substitutions, without the slightest bit of difference.

I once played an entire 162 game season, keeping stats by hand. My parents must have been very proud.
_Jacko - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:46 PM EDT (#41416) #
RBI baseball is a video arcade classic, but my personal fave was Baseball Stars.

There were six open slots where you could put custom teams in, and slowly build up their skill level by winning games. I wasted many, many hours playing that game.
_Mosely - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:47 PM EDT (#41417) #
Deal.

I'm pretty sure I could school you in any one of:

Mr Do
Mousetrap
Frontline
Turbo
Destructor

...or any number of Coleco games I had. That system ruled.

Man, this thread is productivity poison. Thanks Moffat.
_Moffatt - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#41418) #
I'm pretty sure I could school you in any one of:

Mr Do
Mousetrap
Frontline
Turbo
Destructor

...or any number of Coleco games I had. That system ruled.


I'll give you the last three (not that good at any of those). No way you beat me in Mr. Do.. or Ladybug or Popeye or Q*Bert.

Did you have Artillery Duel? That was an awesome 2 player game for the CV (which didn't have all that many).

If you're ever looking for Colecovision games, lemme know. I'm working on getting some CV stuff together for Brent.

RE: Bash brothers. Yeah, they were in Roger Clemens Baseball as well. Forgot about them until you brought it up. :)
_Tom - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:53 PM EDT (#41419) #
Re RBI Baseball: We used to have this "watch" going, where we'd celebrate the last official RBI Baseball player still active in the Major Leagues (So far Ellis Burks, Clemens, Benito Santiago, Julio Franco, and John Franco are the surviving members.) It's kind of like the Flying Hellfish episode of the Simpsons, who knows what kind of treasures will await us after they all retire?

One of my favorite games was Baseball Simulator 2000 for NES. The game wasn't anything great, but you had the option of playing in some fun stadiums, like underwater, outer space, etc. Also, when you hit a home run, the team would come out in a row and high five you, with one guy looking like a deranged Mr. T (replete with mohawk) and another guy in a chicken costume. Fun times.

Baseball Stars was another fun game.
Craig B - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 01:54 PM EDT (#41420) #
Kind of like last weekend's AP article in the Star where the author mistakenly opted not to ignore any of the spell-check recommendations. It was a good article on Carlos Deluged, Jason Friseur, Frank Mention and Alexis Rio.

Oh, that's perfect. So without further ado, Spell-Check.Net presents your 2004 MLBPA-Unlicensed Video Game Toronto Blue Jays players:

Miguel Batsman
Vonnegut Chukka
Valerian De Los Santos
Jason Fraise
Roy Holland
Pat Henchmen
Jason Kerosene
Kersey Lightener
Aqualung Lopez
Michelin Makeup
Justin Specimen

Bobby Astral
Greg Maybe
Gregg Answer

Carlos Delegator
Eric Himself
Frank Menacing
Chris Woodwork

Frank Catalonia
Howler Clark
Alexis Riots
_alsiem - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:00 PM EDT (#41421) #
LOL, Aqualung Lopez!! A star is born.
_Tom - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#41422) #
Aqualung Lopez

Sitting on the Jays bench --
eyeing little girls with Blue Jays threads.
Snot running down his nose --
Uneasy fingers practicing shabby throws .
Drying in the cold dome --
Watching as the silly Red Sox run.
Feeling like a dead duck --
spitting out pieces of his broken luck.
_Jacko - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:11 PM EDT (#41423) #

LOL, Aqualung Lopez!! A star is born.


This jives way to well with:



jc
_Brent - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:16 PM EDT (#41424) #
For some reason, I never really got into RBI Baseball. A couple of my friends and I would always throw down in some serious Bad News Baseball competitions, but we never really got into RBI. The speed of the pitches in Bad News were quite a bit slower, so it led to some high scoring games and many homeruns that led to subsequent punches.

Ah, Bad News Baseball. What other game could boast the most impressive technological feat to ever grace a television screen: rabbit umpires? None.
_Jacko - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:17 PM EDT (#41425) #
Some of these names are really unfortunate!

Jason Kerosene
Bring into game, light match!

And who the heck is Michelin Makeup?
Craig B - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:26 PM EDT (#41426) #
Michelin Makeup is none other than Micheal Nakamura.
Mike Green - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:29 PM EDT (#41427) #
I'd go with Frank Catatonia, as an alternative.

How about:

Furnace Walls
Lord Andrew Houston?
_Jonny German - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:31 PM EDT (#41428) #
Those spell-checked names are awesome... My favourite is "Himself".

Frank Menacing is good, but I've already started thinking of him as Mighty Mouse.
Leigh - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 02:51 PM EDT (#41429) #
My partner and I have been having an ongoing "contest"/discussion about what it is that Frank Menechino looks as though he ought to be doing (because he doesn't look like an MLB player).

The best that we have come up with is sausage vendor. Is it just me, or can you easily picture Frank Menechino saying "Sauetkraut? That'll be 50 cents extra."?
Joe - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:08 PM EDT (#41430) #
http://me.woot.net
Pat Henchmen

Hahaha.

This is the first thing that came to mind:



While we're on the subject, I'm considering picking up a baseball game for my GameCube. MVP Baseball 2004 any good?
Pistol - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:10 PM EDT (#41431) #
RBI baseball is a video arcade classic, but my personal fave was Baseball Stars.

Ah, good times.
_Ron - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:12 PM EDT (#41432) #
Wow Baseball games have come a long way.

I have All Star Baseball 2005 and MVP Baseball 2004 for my Xbox.

I like MVP better, the baserunning controls are way better. But for stat freaks there is a bug that could ruin it for you. Left handed batter have big time problems hitting HR's even when your using the mashers. Also there is a glitch in Fenway park where if you hit it near the hole in CF you or the comp will get stuck and the bases will be cleared.
_Spicol - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:12 PM EDT (#41433) #
I'm playing MVP Baseball 2004 by EA right now on my PC (or at least, I bought it...I've only managed to find time to play it a few times). It's just ok.

The graphics are pretty solid and the game runs well on my two year old system. Some details are great. There must be about 100 individual batting stances for players. Like most sports games now, there are commentators talking throughout the game. The phrases they use are generic at best, annoyingly repetitive at worst. But overall, the games are fun to play and the controls are pretty intuitive.

Throwing the ball, either when pitching or in the field, is done with a meter, like most golf games. As the pitcher gets tired, it becomes somewhat more difficult to throw where you want. It's miles ahead of choosing where to throw the ball and having strikes be almost automatic but the system still needs work. Even if I ask to throw the ball outside the strike zone, it usually still ends up slipping in. I can't walk the computer players. It's seemingly impossible. It's also impossible for me to steal a base while playing the game (but simmed games have steals in them). That's a pretty glaring flaw. Playing defense is hard, but in a challenging way as opposed to being frustrating. There's an inordinate amount of foul pop-ups throughout a game (usually 6-8 per team) but that's minor.

The Dynasty mode, where you get to be in charge of a franchise for up to 120 years, is a great feature. The ability to be able to control and play games for, not only your MLB team, but also your AAA and AA teams is a level of control I really like. You can draft your intital team if you like...I've done a couple of drafts. It's almost as much fun as the game itself.

One of the most annoying aspects of the game is the financial system in Dynasty mode. I think the MLB Players Association doesn't like when video games use a financial setup that resembles reality (which wrecks Baseball Mogul as well) so MVP uses a points system where you have a budgeted amount of points that you distribute to players. It's great to have a financial component to the game...it makes managing the team challenging. But points? Points are lame. As well, minor league players are costly. Each player costs at least 100,000 points per year, whether they are in the Majors or not.

Considering how long the offseason takes, not being able to save your Dynasty while in the middle of spring training is a pick-up-my-monitor-and-throw-it kind of flaw. There are also a boatload of menus...way too many. If I want to look at my AA batting lineup and then refer to my stats sheet, I have to click about 12 links before I finally get to it.

Overall, MVP is a fun baseball game. It's not a real baseball SIM, though, so if you're in to that sort of thing, invest your money in Out of the Park instead.
_Ron - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:15 PM EDT (#41434) #
Here's a review of MVP
http://xbox.ign.com/articles/496/496785p1.html
_Four Seamer - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:16 PM EDT (#41435) #
While we're on the subject, I'm considering picking up a baseball game for my GameCube. MVP Baseball 2004 any good?

I also have it for the Xbox, and it's tremendous.

Left handed batter have big time problems hitting HR's even when your using the mashers. Also there is a glitch in Fenway park where if you hit it near the hole in CF you or the comp will get stuck and the bases will be cleared.

Ron's right about those two glitches, but I chalk it up to Johnny Damon's hair getting in the way, and Eric Hinske hitting like, well, Eric Hinske.
_superdevin - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:16 PM EDT (#41436) #
i loved Baseball Simulator 1.000. it was unbelievably cool. it was the first game i had that you could have a season and you could view all the league leaders. i was always the team in baby blue. i forget their name. i think dale was my clean up hitter. players only had first names and they were all four letters i think. often misspelled like aron instead of aaron. sorry if this explaination is all over the map but it's all flooding back to me.

i'd also like to see some reviews of new baseball games for new systems becuase i'm interested in buying a new game for my xbox (actually it's for me). do any of the new games have a multiplayer dynasty mode?
_Ron - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:22 PM EDT (#41437) #
I think ASB 2005 might have mutliplayer franchise mode but I'm not sure.

I've found that stat heads like ESPN the best. In terms of pick up and play and best selling belongs to MVP. 989's MLB 2004 is much improved. And ASB2005 is a game with tons of extras (very cool I Live For This promo's with Jeter, Matsui, Hunter, Schmidt, Jones, etc.. baseball trivia, sandlot baseball, etc...) and the AI is solid but the baserunning controls are awful and the game takes too long to finish. Also ASB2005 has the most stadiums out of all the games. They even have future stadiums for the Yanks, Red Sox, Marlins, Mets, A's, etc...
_Sneeps - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:31 PM EDT (#41438) #
I have EA 2004 as well, and I haven't hit a HR with a lefty yet (3 or 4 months).
I read above someone has troubles stealing, I don't have that problem. Maybe you aren't using the leadoff function? You can take 1 or 2 extra steps off the bag... did you know that?
I've yet to see the problem in CF with Fenway Park, but that sounds pretty funny and is quite a bad glitch.
Another thing someone said was they can't walk the computer hitters, that's also not a problem I've had, but maybe we are playing on different difficulty levels.
Speaking of the levels, I find that if I want to have a realistic chance at winning, I have to put the computer hitting on Pro level. If it's on the next highest one (advanced i think) it's just too difficult. The computer will hit 10 homeruns off me even if I'm using Pedro or R. Johnson.
It's a pretty good game, but it does have it's problems that need to be addressed.
_Spicol - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:35 PM EDT (#41439) #
Sneeps, are you playing the PC version?
_Sneeps - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:42 PM EDT (#41440) #
Yes.
_Brent - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 03:59 PM EDT (#41441) #
I picked up MVP when it came out and I believe it to be the finest baseball game on the market. Spicol did a great job explaining the core mechanics of the game, but some of the best things are ones that don't exactly jump out at you. I've played maybe 100 games so far, and I'm still seeing new animation and hit types. The physics engine that controls how and where the ball hits the bat is remarkable, to the point where you can have almost an infinite amount of hit types (line drives, texas leaguers, balls that hook, etc.).

The "lefty bug" mentioned above (the one that makes it hard to hit home runs with left handed hitters) is fixable, but unfortunately only for the PC version. EA released a second patch for the game a month ago that fixes the problem.

Also, MVPMods.com is a great resource for all sorts of modifications to the game. There’s lots of neat stuff over there.

Conclusion: I like MVP.
_Spicol - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 04:04 PM EDT (#41442) #
On Pro difficulty, I intentionally tried to walk about a dozen batters in a row. I can throw balls but invariably, the hitter swings out of the strike zone and hits it in play.

Honestly, I didn't even know you could lead off. I didn't see it in the manual. How do you do it?

I've seen the Fenway glitch...it happened in another park as well, although I can't remember which one. Eventually, the fielder did get unstuck but I got an easy triple with Josh Phelps out of the Fenway bug.
_Sneeps - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 04:07 PM EDT (#41443) #
Re: Leading Off

Well that depends on what controller type you are using. Just go into your controller configuration and have a look at what buttons control which action.
_John S - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 04:27 PM EDT (#41444) #
Baseball Simulator 2.000....Now that was a great game. :)

I used to have a great time using the "special moves" in that games. Hitters would get a "super swing", Fielders would get a "super catch", and pitchers would get a "super pitch" of some sort. These moves were so classic. I remember one of the super swings was the unstoppable super line drive. For instance, if you lined the ball at the second baseman, and he caught it, it would pick him up and he'd fly with the ball all the way to the fence (and would always drop the ball when he slammed into the fence, making the runner safe). Pitchers could literally throw fireballs, you could hit zigzag groundballs, and outfielders could jump hundreds of feet in the air (which was, incidentilly, impossible to time well enough to catch home runs with, but it was still funny watching your outfielder jump into orbit while the ball flew over the fence).

But I think my favourite part of the game was bunting with fast runners. If the infielders had weak enough arms, you could go first to second before the ball made it from third to first. By coaxing throws in the right way, I remember hitting bunt home runs...Ah, that was fun.

The second great baseball game I played was Tony LaRussa Baseball 2. I remember having so much fun drafting a team from a pool of the best players to ever play the game (each player in the game had the stats/ability level of their best season). Some drafts I'd take Willie Mays in the first round, Walter Johnson in the second round, and be at the edge of my seat hoping that the AI would pass over a certain player (usually Joe Jackson) so I could draft him in the third round. These drafts were probably the most fun I ever had playing a baseball game.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 04:31 PM EDT (#41445) #
I've only played the PC demo for MVP - to IBB hit numpad0 + pageup.
_Tassle - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 05:10 PM EDT (#41446) #
I'm obviously a bit younger than you guys. My first system was an SNES in 1992 when I was 6, and the first baseball game I ever played was Ken Griffey Jr. presents MLB. It was the mid-90's when I got it and I was a bit of a bandwagon boy. The Jays had started sucking so I was a Mariners fan from '95 to about '97. The thing about this game was that if you played as the Mariners, you won. Period. Griffey could hit jacks every at bat and he could run down any ball from centre field. He was so fast I bet he coulda played every position on the field at the same time if the game had allowed it. It also had an awesome full season mode, so I spent all of grade 3 playing all the way through with Seattle. It took me about 50 hours total and I ended up an ML record 132-30. Griffey? He only hit like .550 with about 110 home runs.
_Ryan Lind - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 05:13 PM EDT (#41447) #
I like MVP baseball, but there's a couple things I hate. Carlos Delgado is literally the only left-handed batter I've been able to hit a homer with, and even then it's rare.

My least favourite thing about it though is how everyone is a gold-glove player. I can't stand it when I hit a screaming line drive, only to have some random outfielder dive about 3 feet and catch it. It's okay if it happens once in a while, but every player does it every time. Annoying!

Fun game overall though.
_Sneeps - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 05:15 PM EDT (#41448) #
Good point Ryan. WAY too many diving catches.
_Asher - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 05:22 PM EDT (#41449) #
I just bought Griffey's slugfest for N64. In this one, there's a code you can enter when Griffey's in the box that makes him hit a homer every time. Only works for Griffey.

He must have it in his contract somewhere that when he endorses a videogame, he's automatically the best player.
_Rob - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 05:22 PM EDT (#41450) #
and the first baseball game I ever played was Ken Griffey Jr. presents MLB

I *loved* that game. Still have it actually. I remember when I was 8, I hit .632 with 121 HR and ~200 RBI with Joe Carter. Lost to Montreal in the WS...well, it was supposed to be the 1994 season after all.

The newest game I have is ASB '04 for the GC. Anyone else have it?
_Four Seamer - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 05:33 PM EDT (#41451) #
My least favourite thing about it though is how everyone is a gold-glove player. I can't stand it when I hit a screaming line drive, only to have some random outfielder dive about 3 feet and catch it. It's okay if it happens once in a while, but every player does it every time. Annoying!

You obviously aren't playing with Frank Catalanotto and Reed Johnson in the outfield then! My outfield defense was so bad, I had to create a custom Alexis Rios to solve half the problem.

As for getting Delgado to take it out of the yard, you have to uppercut a pitch in the upper half of the strike zone.
_Spicol - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 05:35 PM EDT (#41452) #
Well that depends on what controller type you are using. Just go into your controller configuration and have a look at what buttons control which action.

Ah...there's the problem. I use the keyboard to play and leading off is not an option on the keyboard config. Goofy.
_The Fridge - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 05:55 PM EDT (#41453) #
All-Star Softball for NES is my favourite. You get to draft these different characters to play on your team out of about 50, they each have different characteristics. Some are fast, some hit for power, some can jump really high in the field and some can float, etc. and there's weird characters like a witch who hits with a broom, a construction guy who hits with a pick-ax and Diablo who is basically satan who someone mentioned in the other thread. And there's different fields like a school, a cliff, sandlot, a park. the cliff has giant rocks in the middle of the field, and if you break a window at the school you're out. Game control is simple, it's a challenge to beat the game, once you won at all the fields you play this girls team that is extremely hard to beat. But it's not so challenging that it's not fun. It's very fun to play.

Also, whoever said Bad News Baseball, I totally forgot about that game until you said it, but that was a great game also.
_Alex - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 06:00 PM EDT (#41454) #
Yeah, I just figured out that Delgado can only hammer high fastballs in MVP. I'm in July and Phelps has 45 HR, Wells 43... and Delgado a measly 27.

Also, is it just me or are LHP completely loaded? Valerio has 0.87 ERA and a WHIP below that. Lilly is neck-and-neck with Halladay for the Nonexistent Best Toronto Starting Pitcher Award. Something doesn't seem right.

And on the subject of classic video games...

Although the first gaming console I ever had was a Sega Genesis (which I received for my fifth birthday in December 1992), I have still experienced many recent classics, like the original World Series Baseball (in which powerbunting is an automatic hit), MLBPA Baseball 1994 (no MLB license and the home team bats first?!), and the greatest Genesis baseball game ever, a 1993 port of an arcade game:

SUPER BASEBALL 2020.

The premise: baseball, due to fan apathy and skyrocketing salaries, had to reinvent itself in the 21st century to survive. And boy, did it ever...

- 12 teams total, split into the Exciting League and Fighting League, all playing in Cyber Egg Stadium, ranked according to hitting, pitching, fielding and "chance" ratings, and made up of men, women and robots. Battle Heroes! Mechanical Brains! Aussie Battlers! And the most loaded team in the game, Tropical Girls!

- Armor for all players, and the ability to purchase armor upgrades in the middle of a game based on performance up to that point.

- Blazing "190-mph" fastballs and unhittable 140-mph sliders (with the 60-mph changeup to throw you for a loop, if need be). Four-man/woman/robot pitching staffs.

- Exploding booby-traps laid out on the field after certain innings by the umpires every game that made players jump 50 feet in the air, then temporarily incapacitated them.

- Random seventh-inning-stretch powerups. Spaghetti-armed catchers. A green, tiled floor for a playing surface. A metal pitchers' mound. Titanium bats. Launchpads for ridiculous jumping catches. Robotic umps. Red "dead zones" that deaden the ball. Everything in the OF past first and third, including the "crowd," is fair territory. Techno background music. Ubiquitous binary numbers and lines all over the screen for no apparent reason.

- And best of all, the "HOME RUN ZONE," a small area in dead center, about 800 feet away from home. If you hit a long fly over the fence anywhere else, it would bounce off SB2020's distinctive Big Blue Tiles of Nothing and back into play.

The game featured a "season" mode, in which you would play as your chosen team (Tropical Girls!) through a series of 15 games - all as the road team - against the rest of the teams in your league, randomly chosen each time. So you could get a balanced schedule of 3 games against each of the 5 teams in your league, or 15 against the Ninja Black Sox and 0 against everyone else. After every game, you'd receive a 20-character password (e.g. UEAAA KW8OE C2D22 AJP93), which you'd have to enter at the opening screen to continue your season. After the season, assuming you finished first, you'd play one randomly-selected team from the other league in the climactic Super Baseball Championship.

For whatever reason, the charming nuances and absurd rules made Super Baseball a ridiculously addictive game. I wasted so much time on this sucker.
_Dez - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 06:06 PM EDT (#41455) #
If you have the PC version of MVP2004, the 2nd released patch apparently fixes the lefty power bug..

As far as old school goes.. RBI Baseball was one of my favs, along with its sequels.. Basewars rocked. But I think the one I spent the most time on was Ken Griffey Baseball for the SNES - i know, not old school, but that featured the 93 jays who had an awesome team.. The players looked like the real thing, but the names were different.. I manually editted every player on every team - ah i wish i were 10 again..
_The Original Ry - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 06:06 PM EDT (#41456) #
Right now I'm heavily into Out of the Park Baseball 6. It's the best of the text-based baseball management sims out there right now. The designer added a number of features this year (namely 40 man rosters and waivers), and while some of them don't work quite right, it's a very addictive game.

I waited until the second patch came out last week before I started seriously playing the game this year. I set up a silly little eight team league consisting of cities and towns here in New Brunswick. I've found when I keep the league small, I get to know the players better and take more of an interest in their careers. It's also funny to see how many of the lesser players have wound up playing for just about every team in the league after a few seasons.

I've also found I can accept the bugs in the financial system more easily when creating a fictitious league. Since I'm not trying to copy a real league, I just assume those issues are normal my own league's rules.
_Sneeps - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 06:16 PM EDT (#41457) #
I can't seem to find the Lefty Power Patch.
What category is it under??
_bin - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 06:24 PM EDT (#41458) #
PureSim 2003/2004

Very good text-based Baseball Sim as well.
_Jim - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 06:53 PM EDT (#41459) #
Puresim and OOTP are both a lot of fun. If OOTP can get the roster rules cleaned up it will be quite a game. I guess it's not even the rules, it's just that the AI is horrible at handling it's roster.
_Ryan Lind - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 07:17 PM EDT (#41460) #
The reason there's such a difficulty in hitting HRs with lefties in MVP is simply cause the ball doesn't stay in the air as long for some reason. I actually enjoy using lefties more than righties as far as getting hits goes, because every ball seems to fall to the ground before the outfielder can get to it. Whereas with righties, the ball hangs more so if you don't hit it out of the park it's usually caught.

So generally, I'm able to get Wells 100 HRs in a season, and only about 30 for Delgado, but Delgado usually bats around .400 :D
_Ryan Lind - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 07:25 PM EDT (#41461) #
http://www.easports.com/games/mvp2004/downloads.jsp
I can't seem to find the Lefty Power Patch.
What category is it under??


I just downloaded it. I haven't tried it so I dunno if it works, but COMN, it's the second box thingie.

I'm just reading the readme right now, and it doesn't say anything about fixing the lefty glitch, but like I said I haven't tried it yet. Should be good to install anyways.
_JackFoley In Se - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 08:56 PM EDT (#41462) #
Let us pray that Kershner slotted to start tonight is merely a mistake by the AP. Off to the game I go, again.
_The Original Ry - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 08:58 PM EDT (#41463) #
No such luck:

NOTE: TORONTO'S ROY HALLADAY WAS SCRATCHED FROM TONIGHT'S START DUE TO SORENESS IN HIS RIGHT SHOULDER.

That doesn't sound good.
_JackFoley In Se - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 09:00 PM EDT (#41464) #
No, no it does not. This should be interesting. AshRat a starter...wow.
_The Original Ry - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 09:04 PM EDT (#41465) #
Is there anyone on this team who ISN'T injured right now?
_Ron - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 09:07 PM EDT (#41466) #
Damm Junior just hit another jack!!!

This guy has been on fire the last month.
_Ron - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 09:09 PM EDT (#41467) #
Dam Doc isn't playing, I have money on the line for tonights game and I expected Doc to start and that's why I picked the Jays to win. Arghhh .... at least Meche has been brutal this season
_Smirnoff - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 09:11 PM EDT (#41468) #
Nothing beats the original Intellivision baseball. Hit the ball hard enough and it could be gone or a triple play. Then they screwed it up by trying to add sliding and other stuff. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
_The Original Ry - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 09:25 PM EDT (#41469) #
This thread about baseball video games brought back some unpleasant memories of my youth: Sierra's Front Page Sports: Baseball series. I had been working on this rant prior to hearing about Halladay being scratched and considered not posting at all, but I'm now sufficiently pissed off to add it to this thread.

This was one incredibly frustrating line of baseball games. The '94 version was great in many respects and had the most detail of any that had been on the market up to that point. It had minor leagues, drafts, free agents, reasonably good AI, and a whole bunch of ratings and statistics that most baseball games at that time had never bothered to include. But in part due to that complexity it had numerous bugs and other very frustrating aspects.

First of all, the good. Out-of-the-box you had an almost complete game. I'm sure that people here will remember that many of the PC baseball games back then had expansion packs to add features, real players and real stadiums. FPS: Baseball '94 had major league rosters (but no major league teams) and all the features. The exception was that you only had 10 or 12 major league stadiums, with the Astrodome having to substitute for SkyDome. The other stadiums were released as an expansion in 1995 after Sierra decided not to come out with a version of the game for that year.

The graphics were real good, using a great-looking 2D shot for the pitcher-batter match-up and then switching to 3D for the action. At first I preferred Hardball 3's 2D shots, but FPS's 3D eventually won me over.

Now the bad. Unbelievably, despite the numerous ratings that the game had, there wasn't a single one for a player's ability to take pitches and draw walks. Everyone drew walks at mostly the same rate.

A day's worth of games took a ridiculously long time to simulate since the computer had to process every single pitch. This was a real nuisance considering this was a DOS-based game and multi-tasking was not possible. If you wanted to sim a couple days worth of games, your computer would be tied up for the better part of an hour.

There were numerous glitches and poorly-designed features that would drive you crazy sometimes. I've thankfully forgotten most of those, but one I do remember one that was beyond belief. If you hit a slow grounder up the middle slightly on the shortstop's side of second base with a runner at first, the shortstop would pass right in front of the ball to cover second base, with the second baseman moving over to try in vain to field the ball. That usually meant an infield hit, or possibly even a double, depending on the speed of the batter. I would punch my desk whenever this happened, and possibly throw some furniture around the room if it had cost me the game.

The '96 and '98 versions of the game ('98 actually came out in 1997) were basically Windows versions of the old 1994 DOS game. Interestingly with the 1996 version, Sierra nearly lost their MLBPA license because they included real minor leaguers (a.k.a. non-MLBPA members). If you've ever wondered why baseball games don't come with real prospects, it's because including them would violate the license the company has with the MLBPA. Sierra learned that the hard way.

The 1996 version had some funny new bugs (although they weren't so amusing for those who had shelled out $50 for the game). For one, the amateur draft was broken. The players were supposed to be generated randomly, but every two seasons the computer would churn out the same amateur players. Many people across North America got introduced to a speedy catcher named Skip Holloway, who the computer would regularly create.

Sierra's support for the game was generally lacking. A patch for the '96 version wound up breaking a pretty important part of the game: replacing players defensively after they had been pinch-hit for. This led to some pretty amusing antics by the computer. When the computer was controlling the White Sox, it would often use Harold Baines to pinch-hit for Ozzie Guillen late in the game. During the next half inning, Baines (despite barely being able to move in real life) would go out to shortstop and stay there for the rest of the game. After the computer would do it enough times, Baines would become qualified as a shortstop and become the starter. Similar incidents would occur just about every game with all the other teams the computer controlled.

I pointed that bug out to one of the game's primary designers on Sierra's website and he said he had not seen that behaviour and would look into it. He apparently didn't look too closely since the bug was still there in the '98 version. Sometimes you have to wonder if game designers ever bother to actually play the games they make. I'm amazed something like this was allowed to slip through.

'98 would the last version of the game, and that was quite obvious by the time it hit the store shelves. Sierra had clearly given up on the series by that time. Surprisingly the various incarnations of the game are still being used in a number of sim leagues. I somehow managed to put up with the game for four years; I'm not quite sure how people could have retained their sanity playing it for ten.
_Asher - Tuesday, June 01 2004 @ 11:45 PM EDT (#41470) #
http://www.aardwolfgames.com/aardmakehtml.mv?look4=2896.00000&src=DETAILS
Has anyone ever played Starting Lineup Talking Baseball?

I bought it in Cooperstown, I think around 1990, but it must have been made a few years earlier. It wasn't for any console system but instead consisted of a battery-powered plastic stadium (COMN for a pic). You plugged in team cartridges that came complete with baseball cards. The only one I had was the all star teams from 85 or 86.

A 3x3 square of lights indicated the path of the pitch, which the batter tried to match with his keypad. The game was actually very detailed with pitchouts, stealing, bunting, etc.

The interesting part was that, since there was no screen, the only feedback was the terrible announcer. "Way back. At the track. At the wall! Over the wall!! A HOMERUN!!!"
_Young - Wednesday, June 02 2004 @ 12:39 AM EDT (#41471) #
http://www.sportsmogul.com
I'm gonna vote Baseball Mogul 2005, which I had just downloaded yesterday. Improves on last year's version somewhat, adding the drafting element into the game and also the salary element, although some of the rosters are still wrong. The Mogul community does publish some roster tweaks constantly, so the salaries and incorrect player rosters will be fixed eventually.
_Rob - Wednesday, June 02 2004 @ 01:23 AM EDT (#41472) #
RE: Baseball Mogul 2005.

Mogul '04 had a weird feature with no left or right handed hitting or throwing players specified. Is that fixed for '05?
_Frank - Wednesday, June 02 2004 @ 11:22 AM EDT (#41473) #
ROFLMAO!!! This is an awesome thread!!!

1. Intellivision was AWESOME!! All the sports games were ahead of their time. B-ball was great, baseball, football, the Boxing was fun. And they were the first to let you play a 1 player game.

2. The "Racist" NES baseball game the one guy was talking about was Bases Loaded. They had like 3 of them. It was a really good series. They did not have a MLB license though so they made up teams and players. And most ofthe good players were black or hispanic!! Jersey had the best hitters. Bay was a masher and he was a black guy!!

3. Baseball Stars for NES was AWESOME!!! Best baseball game to this day. It was so much fun!

4. Little League baseball was hilarious. You could be any team from anywhere. Me and my cousin played it all summer one year.

5. My game now is MVP baseball for PS2. Very realistic except for the lefty thing. If they fix that next year, it will be perfect!
_Fawaz K - Wednesday, June 02 2004 @ 03:20 PM EDT (#41474) #
Has anybody brought up Roger Clemens MVP baseball for SNES? Not an awful lot of features, but it was easy to play and a lotta fun. Spent ages playing with the Toronto Bears against my dad's Boston Crabs...
_r. j. smith - Tuesday, June 08 2004 @ 07:40 AM EDT (#41475) #
Did anyone have the TI-994/a computer with the Milton Bradley baseball game. It came with a joystick and a separate interface box and a microphone for voice control. Although never wildly popular as a computer, this game was the best of its era in my opinion, circa early 1980's. You could control defense withthe interface or your voice. My friends and I spent many hours playing this game. For a picture, go to http://members.cox.net/obsoletetechnology/ti994a.html
I just got MVP2004 and it seems o.k., although i'm disappointed by its lack of gamepad support.
_Kevin - Friday, July 30 2004 @ 10:36 AM EDT (#41476) #
I agree. I played the Atari Version, Intellivision and the Odesey versions. If you are talking pure gut rinching, pulse pounding, in your face, throws from left field to 1st base to get the runner... man.. Intellivion MLB rules. BTW... I beat my brother last night 12-4. 4 homers. Brilliant. "yer out".
_Sean DeMarco - Thursday, August 19 2004 @ 03:14 AM EDT (#41477) #
MicroLeague Baseball and Sierra Sports Front Page Baseball series were both excellent baseball series that should be revived. Speaking of the Sierra series ... I am trying to find the patches for '94. Can anyone locate these for me ?
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