Roy Halladay v Mark Buehrle - take two.
Ted Lilly v Dan Wright in the evening affair.
Ted Lilly v Dan Wright in the evening affair.
I guess Woodward has taken the #2 Gomez spot in the lineup at least for the first game.
Ah, at last a game that's on at a reasonable time of day for me. I hope it does get started soon!
The last three losses were *ugly*. Tosca looks like he's about the put his head into the guillotine. The only thing that made them any better was watching the archived game at 140% speed, which is quite entertaining. Hentgen sure had some velocity!
I really hope for two wins today, with Doc to set it up.
The last three losses were *ugly*. Tosca looks like he's about the put his head into the guillotine. The only thing that made them any better was watching the archived game at 140% speed, which is quite entertaining. Hentgen sure had some velocity!
I really hope for two wins today, with Doc to set it up.
All the Jays in the dugout look a little miseerable, but the tarp is off the field and we're off - first pitch from Buehrle to Ree is high and away - ball!
One - out triple from Woody. Hitting him second is obviously a brilliant TC move. Nice opposite-field curling shot to right-center. Woody simply took third from them ...
Oh, my - the day off didn't help VW - sick swing on the 3-2 pitch. Count me worried about him for sure.
In the words of Jerry Seinfeld, "Thaaaaat's a shame."
Delgado grounds out weakly to second, into the shift. Wasted a one-out "triple".
Is anyone else a little nervous about HRH pitching in that weather in Chicago? I'd hate to see him tighten up, or have his back seize up on him. At least he won't start the nightcap.
Is anyone else a little nervous about HRH pitching in that weather in Chicago? I'd hate to see him tighten up, or have his back seize up on him. At least he won't start the nightcap.
Oh, crap, for a second I thought I was prescient with Halladay tumbling after that first-pitch pop-up off Harris' bat - O-Dog snagged it and Doc seems ok.
Whew.
Whew.
Hudson really does deserve a gold glove. This year too soon? Who is the principal competition?
In better news, Conroy and Iginla finally put something together and silenced Joe Louis.
Heh - is it too late for the Red Wings to trade for A-Rod? They seem to have the budget for it. What a SHAME the Flames may win that series....
I'd rather Doc not attempt too many pickoffs, or at least not seriously - his step to 1st looks jerky and bad news in the cold. Let Cash shoot off some snap throws instead.
I'd rather Doc not attempt too many pickoffs, or at least not seriously - his step to 1st looks jerky and bad news in the cold. Let Cash shoot off some snap throws instead.
That single by Uribe... Gameday says it was to Hinske... was it deep in the hole and he didn't really have a play, or what were the details around it?
Although he seems to have gotten better, I still really don't trust Hinske on Defence. The double-pump just bugs me too much.
Although he seems to have gotten better, I still really don't trust Hinske on Defence. The double-pump just bugs me too much.
Woody making the plays he should make is nice to watch. Let's hope he's permanently found his chi.
DGriebeling: It was a swinging bunt that died on the infield grass. There was no chance for anyone.
The Uribe single - it was clean - little chopper up the line, thick grass, it died - Hinske had absolutely no chance and took a bite out of the ball. It was the right play.
Woody's chi: He can borrow it until the end of the season, but Mr. Mackey wants it back, m-kay?
O-Dog looks great from the right side of the plate.
1-0 Jays - RBI double, Cash chugged home (he looked like he was in pain rounding third) - Berg is up with 2 out - he gets a hit here, I call easy win for the Jays in this game.
Cash looked in pain after immediately his hit. I think he might have hurt his hand... he seemed to be showing it to the first base coach.
Tom Wilson ... paging Mr. Tom Wilson ...
Seriously, Cash going down to injury would be a massive blow right now. Here's hoping it's just bat-bees.
Seriously, Cash going down to injury would be a massive blow right now. Here's hoping it's just bat-bees.
Yay Hudson.
According to my calculations, the O-dog is now hitting .261 from the right side, which is pretty much the same as his average from the left side. Good stuff.
According to my calculations, the O-dog is now hitting .261 from the right side, which is pretty much the same as his average from the left side. Good stuff.
Halladay looks unconscious out there - the ball is just darting all over the place and his motion looks so comfortable and smooth he could probably pitch 12 innings, if it weren't for the cold. Got Thomas to look like a weenie grounding to third. Big Hurt - hmph!
Maybe Halladay can pitch 18 innings? Lilly can have an extra day off...
Ooh, what a look Roy gave the plate ump on that ball four count against him. Then he throws a NASTY pitch to start off Crede. Gotta love the Jays not having to bat against Halladay.
Enjoy the double dip, everyone - I'm off to drink some fine draught beers (Beer Bistro - you got to go!) and watch Blues great James Cotton rip out some harp licks at Healey's.
Go Jays!!!
Go Jays!!!
Woah. Woodward's entire at-bat was about 20 seconds long.
Hudson really does deserve a gold glove. Who is the principal competition?
Bret Boone's bat.
Bret Boone's bat.
I love Candiotti's freeflowing commentary. "Berg is playing too deep in left..."
Has anyone ever proposed a Candiotti/Cerutti tandem (with Cerutti relegated to play-by-play, and Candy doing the colour)?
Has anyone ever proposed a Candiotti/Cerutti tandem (with Cerutti relegated to play-by-play, and Candy doing the colour)?
Hypothetical question:
Doc has a once in a lifetime, 60 pitch 1 hit shutout.
Do you even think about bringing him out for the first 4 or 5 innings of game 2?
Doc has a once in a lifetime, 60 pitch 1 hit shutout.
Do you even think about bringing him out for the first 4 or 5 innings of game 2?
Maybe a game seven, and only then if I got a Dusty Baker-esque hunch.
No, just because
1) The batters have already seen him at least 3-times a piece
2) If he were injured or whatever, the media would kill you
3) Time between the 1st game ending and 2nd one starting would hurt him
BUT... as a paying customer that'd be awesome
1) The batters have already seen him at least 3-times a piece
2) If he were injured or whatever, the media would kill you
3) Time between the 1st game ending and 2nd one starting would hurt him
BUT... as a paying customer that'd be awesome
Ah, totally misunderstood.
I would maybe consider bringing him out if not for Lilly's recent success.
I would maybe consider bringing him out if not for Lilly's recent success.
Seriously, no way would I risk Halladay starting immediately. Although if he told me he wanted to then I might consider it before rejecting the idea.
Has anyone ever proposed a Candiotti/Cerutti tandem (with Cerutti relegated to play-by-play, and Candy doing the colour)?
Cerutti did some play-by-play with Cheek and Howarth before he joined the CBC telecast in 1997. He was very difficult to listen to since his delivery tends to be quite choppy. That's a significant drawback for someone who has to describe action as it's taking place. Faulds is a significantly better play-by-play man than Cerutti was.
Cerutti did some play-by-play with Cheek and Howarth before he joined the CBC telecast in 1997. He was very difficult to listen to since his delivery tends to be quite choppy. That's a significant drawback for someone who has to describe action as it's taking place. Faulds is a significantly better play-by-play man than Cerutti was.
And I think my excessive use of the word "significant" is quite significant.
Faulds is a significantly better play-by-play man than Cerutti was.
*shudder*
*shudder*
Pitch count through 4 innings: Halladay 49-31, Buehrle 72-46.
Thursday was the first time that mlb.tv has carried the RSN feed so it was my first experience of the egregious Faulds I hear you talking about.
He was certainly pretty irritating. "Hentgen looking for his first win as a Blue Jay" - hardly! But what annoyed me most was his voice/accent. I suppose you're going to beat me up now because it's a Canadian accent or something but honestly I can't tell what kind of accent it what. I just know that Faulds and the guys who do the Devil Rays broadcasts, have voices that really grate on my ears.
He was certainly pretty irritating. "Hentgen looking for his first win as a Blue Jay" - hardly! But what annoyed me most was his voice/accent. I suppose you're going to beat me up now because it's a Canadian accent or something but honestly I can't tell what kind of accent it what. I just know that Faulds and the guys who do the Devil Rays broadcasts, have voices that really grate on my ears.
Phelps just watched as strike 3 went by with 2 men on base to end the inning - on what looked like a hittable pitch on the outside corner of the plate. Maybe he needs some time in Syracuse to get his hitting stroke down because he is of no value to the Jays with at bats like that one.
Just terrible!
Just terrible!
Well, at least we ended a bases juiced threat with the big hurt-ing at the plate. Quite the battle there.
Buerhle's at 90 pitches through 5. The Jays should get at least 3 innings of the Sox bullpen.
I enjoyed watching a great pitcher pitch to Mags and Thomas, two great hitters. It really was a contest worth watching. And the good guy came out on top.
Shame about the 2-run homer.
Shame about the 2-run homer.
Anyone else immediately think that this thread could set the record for posts as soon as they saw that it was for both games?
Go Jays!
Go Jays!
Im tired of making excuses to my friends about why they should come to the dome. Common Jays lets see some RUNS.
Bring on Politte!!! I'd love to see him blow the save....
Come on Politte, just do what you did last year...
With the non-plethora of posts so far, I wouldn't expect any records to be broken today.
Politte==Loaiza? Gonna turn into a Cy Young candidate with the Sox?
Maybe we need to see more than 1/3rd inning to conclude this just yet.
Maybe we need to see more than 1/3rd inning to conclude this just yet.
The cold is affecting Doc's grip on most of his pitches. that is why he is missing his spots.
Well, I think we'll get Marte for Delgado, problably the whole 8th while he's at it and Koch will come in for the 9th. Marte's gonna be tough to hit, even with the heart of our lineup up. I hope Guillen doesn't get smart and leave Marte in to neutralise Hinske and force Hudson to bat right-handed (regardless of how well he's being doing recently, it's still his worst side).
Indeed. Don't usually see 4 walks in a game from Halladay. I'll assume he's done, which means he finishes with 4 BB's and 3 K's.
Anyone want to guess the last game Halladay had more walks than strikeouts?
Anyone want to guess the last game Halladay had more walks than strikeouts?
How good is Delgado??? Schooling one of the toughest lefties in the game..............JEEZ!!!!
Yeeeeeeeeeeees Sir there she goes!
HR from Delgado and we have a tie game!
HR from Delgado and we have a tie game!
Candiotti: "Another good at-bat by Wells."
I guess we're setting the bar at striking out. Anything other than that is a good at-bat.
Counting on Woodward, Hudson and Cash to carry the offense (along with Delgado, of course) is just asking too much. This lack of productivity in the 3 and 5 holes is just deadly.
I guess we're setting the bar at striking out. Anything other than that is a good at-bat.
Counting on Woodward, Hudson and Cash to carry the offense (along with Delgado, of course) is just asking too much. This lack of productivity in the 3 and 5 holes is just deadly.
....and a single from Phelps - all with less than 2 outs!
Kept his wait back on an 0-2 pitch and then slam!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, im hearing more vocal jays fans in chicago than in the dome. Oh well, here come the bats, GO JAYS GO.
Hinkse hits into a DP, but the game is tied thanks to a solo shot off Marte. Excellent.
I can't imagine this lineup without Delgado. I think sometimes as Jays' fans we take him for granted in terms of his salary and long tenure of consistency.
On the bright side, at least we'll get to hack against Koch.
Thoughts? IBB, good or bad. I was voting for it. (as long as Terry Adams doesn't do any of the IBBing)
I still think Cat's got to come out of left field. Uribe's double was catchable with a decent jump.
Ok adams coming in from the pen.......what you think happens next.....
Audition 2 for Adams. He better get that patented sinker fixed without making Kevin play goaltender.
Didn't Tosca mention that Adams would have the traditional closer's duties for now, implying Adams would be reserved for the one-inning saves? (I might have been extrapolating a little).
I personally think it's a good move to bring Adams in
Well, nice of Marte to kill my fantasy team in two ways (I also have Buerhle)
He needs to stop throwing his slider all the time as if he's a lefty Jeff f'n Nelson.
I was hoping the Jays would come back, but off of their former mates. Oh well.
He needs to stop throwing his slider all the time as if he's a lefty Jeff f'n Nelson.
I was hoping the Jays would come back, but off of their former mates. Oh well.
I think Tosca specifically mentioned that Adams would be brought in for three, four, five or six outs.
Can anyone in the room honestly say that they expected Uribe to be stranded after the leadoff double?
What a waste of a start by Doc. Just one mistake cost him a W.
Damn, V is struggling. That early K with 1 out & Woodward on 3rd was...well, representative of the Jays woes thus far. They're hitting considerably better, but just not well enough to win.
Great clutch pitching by T.A.
Damn, V is struggling. That early K with 1 out & Woodward on 3rd was...well, representative of the Jays woes thus far. They're hitting considerably better, but just not well enough to win.
Great clutch pitching by T.A.
Phew.
Extra innings we could do without, if the second game of this double header isn't rained off. So the Jays better score some runs in the 9th.
Extra innings we could do without, if the second game of this double header isn't rained off. So the Jays better score some runs in the 9th.
The bottom of the fifth killed Doc's chances of going all the way. +40 pitches that inning. He was all over the place too. Very fortunate not to get hurt worse.
The only saving grace about VW is how bad Delgado looked two weeks ago. However, Delgado only struggled for two weeks and has a much better track record.
Marte did his best to walk Kevin Cash by not throwing a single pitch which would have been called a strike but Kevin would have none of it.
I wonder how long it will be until we see Gabe Gross.
If Gross was tearing up AAA I would think it would be soon. Unfortunately, he's closer to stinking it up than tearing...
I wouldn't mind seeing 15 innings here, increase the chance of Howie Clark pitching tonight. Let's hit rock bottom and then storm the majors.
What do you think would be a better turning point for the Jays season? They win 2 15 inning games today energizing the entire roster and the fanbase or they lose two fifteen inning games and hit rock bottom a la Halladay in A Ball?
Of course, it'd be much more practical to win one in 11 and a laugher in 9 but....
Of course, it'd be much more practical to win one in 11 and a laugher in 9 but....
All this talk about scuttling the season and bringing up prospects is way immature - but what about the talk (and ink) about firing Tosca?
A week ago I would have said forget it, but after reading the article on Canoe today, I'm not so sure I know what's good for this team anymore.
A week ago I would have said forget it, but after reading the article on Canoe today, I'm not so sure I know what's good for this team anymore.
*breathe* *breathe* *breathe*
its ok ball still at the plate.
its ok ball still at the plate.
Gross was 2-4 (HR) today; He's closer than you think (despite only 3 BB so far)!
BTW, DGriebling take *that* for saying there was no chance to set a thread record. We, of course, don't know if it will happen but it certainly seems possible now. ;-)
Maybe Cash will run to the dugout and change into a Leafs goalie outfit......
Yeah I don't know about others but I was watching the Sharks/Avs game earlier, hence my posts started after that game was over.
About 110 comments and zero combined from Coach, Moffatt, and Craig B. I don't think this would have happened a year ago, or even a few months ago.
increase the chance of Howie Clark pitching
I've always wondered which hitters -- on every Jays roster -- would be the 12/13 pitchers. On the current roster, it's probably either Berg or Zaun (maybe Clark).
I've always wondered which hitters -- on every Jays roster -- would be the 12/13 pitchers. On the current roster, it's probably either Berg or Zaun (maybe Clark).
Marte did his best to walk Kevin Cash by not throwing a single pitch which would have been called a strike but Kevin would have none of it.
And I think we should starting getting used to that. Just as we were quick to entirely dismiss Cash as a major leaguer last season, I think we are too quick this year to believe that he's suddenly a legit starting catcher.
And I think we should starting getting used to that. Just as we were quick to entirely dismiss Cash as a major leaguer last season, I think we are too quick this year to believe that he's suddenly a legit starting catcher.
Someone refresh my memory, is "Mr.Zero" also the "film star"?
Ouch that was bad, Wells seemed to swing after the ball was in the catcher's mitt. Haven't seen that since Nintendo baseball '96.
NDG, there's still a WHOLE lot of that when I play MVP2004... I seem to manage to swing while the catcher is already throwing the ball back to the pitcher
No, the feature film actor in question is the Indians Kazuhito Tadano.
What are the odds of Spier emerging from this inning unscathed???
Anyone else find this umps strikezone very narrow but low (top of ankles seem to be a strike, but anything more than a couple inches away from center is a ball)?
Bases loaded, no outs, moron behind the plate, walkoff potential. Yeah, this doesn't look good.
Now THOSE were good at bats by Ordonez and Thomas. I have no idea why insisted on throwing slider after slider to Thomas outside. He'll have a very good look at those pitches and has great judgement.
We've got an out on the sacrifice at least, so DP is possible
Not a very good 0-2 pitch. Speier got it up after Crede proved he would chase low and away.
OH that was so close.
Nice play by Speier to duck out of the way of the ball, heh.
Damn, the tag was about a half-second late.
Nice play by Speier to duck out of the way of the ball, heh.
Damn, the tag was about a half-second late.
Brief supper break, see you guys again in about an hour.
(Y'know its a good day when your baseball team plays 19 innings in one day)
(Y'know its a good day when your baseball team plays 19 innings in one day)
Very close play. I have a PVR and replayed it in slow motion. Ordonez just barely beat Cash's tag.
Oh that sucks. Again.
I'm off to bed now. Enjoy the 2nd game guys; hope the result is better than the first.
I'm off to bed now. Enjoy the 2nd game guys; hope the result is better than the first.
And for some reason known only to Justin Speier and Kevin Cash they throw a high fastball to Crede when he took two weak hacks at sliders low and away. Ball up is where Crede likes it...ball up is easier to hit to the outfield. Instead of staying with the pitch that gave them success they went with the pitch that was inviting failure.
Sometimes the pitch selections the Jays make are simply HORRID. Forget out not having a proper scouting report, how about just knowing that you have to keep the fricking ball DOWN if you want to avoid a sac fly or get a double play to get out of the inning? Cash needs an IQ check.
Sometimes the pitch selections the Jays make are simply HORRID. Forget out not having a proper scouting report, how about just knowing that you have to keep the fricking ball DOWN if you want to avoid a sac fly or get a double play to get out of the inning? Cash needs an IQ check.
Poor play by Cash at the end. He should of had his left leg on the plate. If he did that the Sox wouldn't have scored.
Even Doc couldn't stop the bleeding.
7-16 now.
If the wild card takes 95 wins the Jays would have to go 88-51 the rest of the season.
Even Doc couldn't stop the bleeding.
7-16 now.
If the wild card takes 95 wins the Jays would have to go 88-51 the rest of the season.
Poor play by Cash at the end. He should of had his left leg on the plate. If he did that the Sox wouldn't have scored.
Even Doc couldn't stop the bleeding.
7-16 now.
If the wild card takes 95 wins the Jays would have to go 88-51 the rest of the season.
Even Doc couldn't stop the bleeding.
7-16 now.
If the wild card takes 95 wins the Jays would have to go 88-51 the rest of the season.
anyone think sparky could have made that toss with a little more zip on it?
He shouldn't have had to make that throw at all. Crede should never have had a chance to get the ball in the air.
It sounds odd to say this, but I'm not sure that we can hang this one on Tosca.
A critical, and on-going, lack of timely hitting. Some dubious pitch selections by Speier.
R Billie, you seemed to nail the scouting report thing on the head. Some of the Jays' pitchers seem to know less about their opponents than we do, and that's not a good thing!
A critical, and on-going, lack of timely hitting. Some dubious pitch selections by Speier.
R Billie, you seemed to nail the scouting report thing on the head. Some of the Jays' pitchers seem to know less about their opponents than we do, and that's not a good thing!
I'm currently at werk. If I go home and watch the second game, Lilly will stink it up. If I stay at werk, Lilly will pitch another 2 hit gem.
Similarly, if my fantasy team benches Ligtenberg, he's light's out. If my fantasy team plays Ligtenberg, he stinks it up.
See where I'm going with this? It's like I'm playing god over here.
Similarly, if my fantasy team benches Ligtenberg, he's light's out. If my fantasy team plays Ligtenberg, he stinks it up.
See where I'm going with this? It's like I'm playing god over here.
It's like I'm playing god over here.
Perhaps if we sacrificed a live goat to EddieZosky we could end the Blue Jays' curse.
Perhaps if we sacrificed a live goat to EddieZosky we could end the Blue Jays' curse.
This thread is getting close to the record for entries but it's not there yet :)
Tough loss, but, I have confidence for game 2.
Tough loss, but, I have confidence for game 2.
It would have been much easier to take if Crede had an incredible at bat like Ordonez and Thomas did and the Jays were forced to mix things up and go with a very risky pitch. But it was an 0-2 count. Completely in the driver's seat and able to pick ANY pitch they wanted to throw in that situation they somehow came up with the worst possible one. Maybe the coaches have to start thinking about calling pitches from the bench, at least in key situations.
With all these bad breaks piling up against the jays again and again in the start of the season, its hard to keep thinking of them as bad breaks and not just what the team is.
File should join Syracuse on Sunday to start his rehab assignment.
Meanwhile, Bruce Chen has been dealt to Baltimore for a PTBN.
Meanwhile, Bruce Chen has been dealt to Baltimore for a PTBN.
wow - Chen has been in eight organisations since 2001.
I guess they decided to avoid the Jeff Reardon plan of attack, but it still strikes me as quite a poor outcome to have that one up in the zone after Crede managed marginal contact on the first two. Cash should have selected something else there, but he also could have done a better job at blocking the plate, or maybe even diving back to tag Ordonez, although I'm really not sure that would have made a difference.
It was a tough to lose given the Delgado shot in the 8th and the way Adams escaped the jam in the 9th. I wonder if Reed would have thrown out Mags if he was in RF.
It was a tough to lose given the Delgado shot in the 8th and the way Adams escaped the jam in the 9th. I wonder if Reed would have thrown out Mags if he was in RF.
anyone else get a kick out of teams changing into alternate uni's in between double headers or is it just me?
It just seems like the Jays are finding ways to lose: leaving runners on (eg third base with <2 out), poor execution, questionable bullpen management and pitch selection, timely strikeouts (by our guys), too many walks to opposing batters.
There is no way a team with this much talent should have an 8-16 record. Oddly, though, I don't think it's Tosca's fault--for the most part, anyway.
On a positive note, if the Jays are out of the race this summer, they will have a few useful players to deal to the contenders for prospects: Johnson, Myers, Catalanotto, maybe a couple of the starters and/or bullpen guys, possibly Delgado. I still think 2005 and 2006 looks bright, especially with McGowan, Bush, Banks, Rios, Quiroz, and others on the way.
There is no way a team with this much talent should have an 8-16 record. Oddly, though, I don't think it's Tosca's fault--for the most part, anyway.
On a positive note, if the Jays are out of the race this summer, they will have a few useful players to deal to the contenders for prospects: Johnson, Myers, Catalanotto, maybe a couple of the starters and/or bullpen guys, possibly Delgado. I still think 2005 and 2006 looks bright, especially with McGowan, Bush, Banks, Rios, Quiroz, and others on the way.
Meanwhile, Bruce Chen has been dealt to Baltimore for a PTBN.
I guess that answers the Towers question then. I wonder who'll move over for McGowan? Or did somebody get demoted?
I guess that answers the Towers question then. I wonder who'll move over for McGowan? Or did somebody get demoted?
I remember a soccer game back in the UK when Manchester United changed uniforms mid game. They were wearing a grey shirt for the first time, and were down by something like 3-0 at half time to lowly Southampton. Alex Ferguson ordered them to change to different shirts and decreed they'd never wear the grey ones again.
I don't remember if they went on to win the game.
I don't remember if they went on to win the game.
Wow, changing at half time. I thought only the Mighty Ducks could get away with that.
How come Carlos popped out? Did someone tell him there was a runner on third?
Wow, an all right handed batting lineup. Lilly is gonna have to have his good stuff in order to get through this.
Hinske finally straightens one out and hits it over the fence. 1-0 Jays leading off the second. Zaun singles up the middle.
Hudson turns on an inside 0-2 pitch and hits it high and hard off the foul pole for a two run homer! 3-0 Jays.
What a blast by the O-dog!
Knew that one was gone as soon as it made contact.
Knew that one was gone as soon as it made contact.
I don't think the Jays can afford to lose anymore fans.
While we have good prospects the chances of all of them being good is slim. And most rookies will need a year or two of seasoning in the majors. If you look at it that way perhaps the Jays could contend in 2 or 3 yrs.
While we have good prospects the chances of all of them being good is slim. And most rookies will need a year or two of seasoning in the majors. If you look at it that way perhaps the Jays could contend in 2 or 3 yrs.
Hudson and Hisnke go deep. Hudson had Zaun aboard with a single, so it's 3-0 Jays.
Wells is doing much better this game now that he doesn't have to swing the bat. Two walks so far. :)
Is this the first game this season where Wells hasn't made an out in his first two at-bats?
I usually don't mind Faulds, but is he speaking English today?
That was some sweet baserunning. One day soon Jeter is going to come up to woody and demand his baseball skills back.
Wells has reached base 3 times so far as he singles in Clark after Cat singled home Woody on a sharp liner to Rowand.
5-3 Jays.
It's amusing to hear Hawk Harrelson annouce a homer "by Jose Uribe" although he must have the most annoying homer call in baseball.
5-3 Jays.
It's amusing to hear Hawk Harrelson annouce a homer "by Jose Uribe" although he must have the most annoying homer call in baseball.
Whats with the Bauxite exodus? The jays are finally looking good and no one's around to see it. Although to be fair if i wasn't battling a nasty cold right now, i probably wouldnt be at home either. Carry on.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=1793156
On the espn website jason stark has some bad news for jays fans and backs it up by some startling stats.
click on my name
On the espn website jason stark has some bad news for jays fans and backs it up by some startling stats.
click on my name
Oh common! This is just getting silly now. What did JP do to piss off the baseball gods so much that they would smite his every attempt at winning!?
Jobu, I'm starting to think that J.P. didn't give you a cigar and a shot of rum this morning. :-)
Cat singles home Chris "Speedy Gonzalez" Woodward after a hit-and-run with Clark kept the Jays out of the DP, forcing the White Sox to get the sure out at first.
Well the team cant ride my coat tails to success everygame! Sometimes they gotta pick up their socks and say just like President Palm- er... Pedro Cerano "F*@k you Jobu! I'll do it myself!" and win their own games! GO JAYS GO!
Lilly's thrown 79 pitches through 4 innings. One more inning, two tops, for Ted. He threw 125 pitches last start, so I'd err on the side of caution this time, particularly as he is not at his best.
I just got back ... why is Gomez in the game now?
Woody's not injured is he? :(
Woody's not injured is he? :(
Maybe they benched woody b/c its just one of those cases of being "too good". You know, give the other team a chance.
Ouch...Hinske caught stealing and Zaun Doubles. With Hinske on the base paths he might have scored.
Oh well, coulda woulda shoulda
Oh well, coulda woulda shoulda
Thats all JP needs, more excuses to not steal. Great.
Maybe if i was allowed to bring a cigar and/or rum and/or a bucket of chicken into the Dome the jays would do better.
Woodward looked a bit uncomfortable when he scored that inning. I'm guessing he has some hamstring issues.
Oh no! Not an injury to our best player!!
(i cant believe i just said that about Chirs Woodward)
(i cant believe i just said that about Chirs Woodward)
And the cat goes 5 for 5. We actually have positive things to discuss!!
In the bottom of the 6th Nakamura goes 3 and oh on Olivo but then comes back to strike him out. In the top of the 7th Cat ties a career high with 5 hits.
Wells has three walks in one game.
What planet are we on again?
What planet are we on again?
To be gramatically correct that should probably read, "his 5th hit" as opposed to "5 hits."
Wells walks and Neal Cotts will face The Jackal with men on first and second and one out.
Wells walks and Neal Cotts will face The Jackal with men on first and second and one out.
As good as Cat and Wells are playing, the Jays have already left 18 men on base through 7.
the Jays have already left 18 men on base
An optimist would say "At least they're getting 18 men on base."
But I'm not one, so I am not happy that this team doesn't have 25 runs. :)
An optimist would say "At least they're getting 18 men on base."
But I'm not one, so I am not happy that this team doesn't have 25 runs. :)
Tonight is a night when Faulds and Candiotti sound like a pair of Vin Scullys compared with by far the worst "broadcasting" tandem in baseball: Ken Harrelson and Darrin Jackson. Between their horrendous White Sox homerun calls and Harrelson's "he gone" (which fittingly sounds more like "hee haw"), whenever an opposing hitter strikes out, they're an embarrassment to the game and should not even be allowed to call little league games. Since I'm focusing on bad broadcasting, here are my favourite 5 TV brodcast teams:
1)It's a no brainer: LA Dodgers: play-by-play: Vin Scully, colour: Vin Scully. The game is one endless sentence from beginning to end, complete with detailed anecdotes, perfect for your last game of the night.
2)SF Giants: Kruk and Kuip, truly funny and inciteful. "Grab some pine meat" has to be the best oft repeated saying in the game.
3)Boston Red Sox: I can't remember the play-by-play guy's name, but Jerry Remy is priceless on colour, complete with thick Massachusettes accent and wry sense of humour.
4)Minnesota Twins: Bert Blyleven does a great job with the colour, but again I've forgotten the play-by-play guy's name (perhaps that's a sign of a good play-by-play guy- FAULDS!!!)
5)Anaheim Angels: Rex "the Wonder Dog" Hudler is outrageous on colour
Honourable Mentions: Florida Marlins, St. Louis Cardinals, when Joe Buck is working at play-by-play, with Al "the Mad Hungarian" Hrabosky on colour.
I've also got to give it up for our radio team. I'll call them "the big three". Tom and Jerry get excited when the opposition does something well (Ahem!! Mr's. Harrelson and Jackson). Mike Wilner might be the best host going, with his incredible preparation and solid grasp of sabermetrics. Yeeeesssir! How about that broadcast team!!
1)It's a no brainer: LA Dodgers: play-by-play: Vin Scully, colour: Vin Scully. The game is one endless sentence from beginning to end, complete with detailed anecdotes, perfect for your last game of the night.
2)SF Giants: Kruk and Kuip, truly funny and inciteful. "Grab some pine meat" has to be the best oft repeated saying in the game.
3)Boston Red Sox: I can't remember the play-by-play guy's name, but Jerry Remy is priceless on colour, complete with thick Massachusettes accent and wry sense of humour.
4)Minnesota Twins: Bert Blyleven does a great job with the colour, but again I've forgotten the play-by-play guy's name (perhaps that's a sign of a good play-by-play guy- FAULDS!!!)
5)Anaheim Angels: Rex "the Wonder Dog" Hudler is outrageous on colour
Honourable Mentions: Florida Marlins, St. Louis Cardinals, when Joe Buck is working at play-by-play, with Al "the Mad Hungarian" Hrabosky on colour.
I've also got to give it up for our radio team. I'll call them "the big three". Tom and Jerry get excited when the opposition does something well (Ahem!! Mr's. Harrelson and Jackson). Mike Wilner might be the best host going, with his incredible preparation and solid grasp of sabermetrics. Yeeeesssir! How about that broadcast team!!
An interesting stat so far this year which would further highlight the difficulty the Jays are having at the plate: they are 2nd last (to the Expos) in OBP in innings 1-6 at .304, but are 5th in the majors in innings 7+ with a .367 percentage.
After logging many, many hours playing MVP 2004, I would give up my first born to never hear Krukow say "Grab some pine, meat!" ever EVER again.
as a fellow MVP owner, i'd have to second that.
Damn, 10-6.
Damn, 10-6.
far better than "You can put it on the board YEEEEESSSSSS!!!"
Also a bit of a follow up, before today's games the Jays lead the league in batting average with the bases loaded, hitting .471. However, with men in scoring position, which obviously occurs at a far more frequent rate, they're 3rd last, hitting only .221.
Even worse than his homerun call is the "hoping" he does before hand.
"Come on ball, come on, get up there, get out"
"Come on ball, come on, get up there, get out"
For those of you listening to the Chicago feed, whose more unprofessional in their unbiased support for the home team:
The Chicago crew, or Joe Bowen and the Mojo Leafs crew?
The Chicago crew, or Joe Bowen and the Mojo Leafs crew?
I can't believe you guys have disdain for the legendary Hawk????? He is the most objective announcer in the bigs (**wink wink**.)
It's extremely close, but I'd have to say Hawk and DJ at the wire, by a nose. The Leafs crew embarass Leaf fans with an IQ (I know there are so few of us!), with their constant carping at and berating of officials, although I must say McGeough must have dropped somethin' good before that game with Ottawa because he saw things that just weren't there against both sides. But, I digress...
That was a fairly amusing call on the strikeout...
Faulds: "Oh, he swung on a bad pitch"
Candiotti: "Great pitch by Frasor"
Hehehe
Faulds: "Oh, he swung on a bad pitch"
Candiotti: "Great pitch by Frasor"
Hehehe
The Hawk is only legendary in his own mind and his legendary status is far outweighed by his monstrous ego!! Why is Adams pitching. I hope his arm holds together.
Hey, the Hawk was GM of the Soix for, um, one year I think.
Most improved has to go to the Cubs Chip Caray. In 2001, he was intolerable (and he had Joe Carter as his side). Now, with Steve Stone, he's much more professional. And if you compare the Sox radio/TV cres, and the Cubs radio/TV crews, Caray/Stone (Cubs TV) far outdistance the other 3
Most improved has to go to the Cubs Chip Caray. In 2001, he was intolerable (and he had Joe Carter as his side). Now, with Steve Stone, he's much more professional. And if you compare the Sox radio/TV cres, and the Cubs radio/TV crews, Caray/Stone (Cubs TV) far outdistance the other 3
El Caballo DP!! Bullpen does the job. Mark it down!!!
Maybe the formerly blue birds just need to some kind of zany team thing to bond together. Remember when they all went blonde? Just need to think of something original.
Didn't we have a thread full of ideas a few weeks ago to stop the losing streak?
Answering my own question...
"Almost, Rob. It was a thread titled Suggestions on how to cure a slump?"
"Almost, Rob. It was a thread titled Suggestions on how to cure a slump?"
WAY off topic, but did anyone else see that sketch just now on SNL when everyone lost it? Sure it was funny as hell and laughter like that much more contagious then anything else they could write... but what happened to professionalism?
I read some of those slump ideas, but i ment more stuff that the team could reasonably do to bond together, rather than any zany stuff we as fans could do.
I read some of those slump ideas, but i ment more stuff that the team could reasonably do to bond together, rather than any zany stuff we as fans could do.
Im thinking growing gnarly beards in tribute to their hockey playing Toronto brethern.
I know eh. There's just no more professionalism in late night sketch comedy! Another black mark on the eye of the industry. Most of the SNL skits seem to be more odd than funny these days.
SNL seems to be more anything than funny. An excellent argument for either staying out late Saturday nights or going to bed early. Obviously, I have done neither of these tonight. :)
well, since we're on the topic now, i dont feel so guilty about keeping it going but did anybody actually see that sketch tonight im talking about? I've never seen an SNL sketch before where everybody just lost it in that degree. I mean at one point i thought they were just going to give up and walk out. Not surprisingly it was the funniest moment of the show far and away.
SNL screw-ups can be hilarious, as long as they're not happening all the time. There's a great one I remember watching with Candace Bergen & Gilda Radner: About halfway through, Bergen mixes up her character's name with Radner's; Radner corrects her, and they both spend the next two minutes desperately trying not to burst into laughter.
(Didn't see the one in question, though. No cable.)
(Didn't see the one in question, though. No cable.)
That one i also recall seeing (not live, but in highlights) but even then they seemed more professional about it than the one tonight. I cant believe all these night owls and im the only one who saw this thing.. ha.
I haven't watched Saturday Night Live in years (not because I don't want to; just because I don't stay up that late anymore). So I didn't see that sketch. I do remember another couple where the performers lost it, though:
- the one where the family brings in Matt Foley, the Motivational Speaker (Chris Farley) to straighten out their teenagers (David Spade, Christina Applegate). Spade and Applegate were obviously trying to restrain their laughter all the way through it.
- the very first appearance of Tarzan (Kevin Nealon), Tonto (Jon Lovitz) and Frankenstein (Phil Hartman) on a panel discussion. I forget who the moderator was. The topics were things like 'bread' ("Bread good." "Yes, bread good."). But when they got to 'fire', Frankenstein freaked out and started yelling 'Fire bad!' . . . but Phil Hartman couldn't keep a straight face so he got up and lumbered around knocking over the set and stuff, and lurched offscreen. The other three, left with the sketch in shambles all around them, just sat there collecting themselves for a second, until Tarzan leaned over and said, "Line between fantasy and reality very blurry for Frankenstein."
- the one where the family brings in Matt Foley, the Motivational Speaker (Chris Farley) to straighten out their teenagers (David Spade, Christina Applegate). Spade and Applegate were obviously trying to restrain their laughter all the way through it.
- the very first appearance of Tarzan (Kevin Nealon), Tonto (Jon Lovitz) and Frankenstein (Phil Hartman) on a panel discussion. I forget who the moderator was. The topics were things like 'bread' ("Bread good." "Yes, bread good."). But when they got to 'fire', Frankenstein freaked out and started yelling 'Fire bad!' . . . but Phil Hartman couldn't keep a straight face so he got up and lumbered around knocking over the set and stuff, and lurched offscreen. The other three, left with the sketch in shambles all around them, just sat there collecting themselves for a second, until Tarzan leaned over and said, "Line between fantasy and reality very blurry for Frankenstein."
I haven't watched Saturday Night Live in years (not because I don't want to; just because I don't stay up that late anymore). So I didn't see that sketch. I do remember another couple where the performers lost it, though:
The Welshey Arms Hotel (Luvas!) skit with Will Farrell and Drew Barrymore wasn't all that amusing until everyone started cracking up. Then it became hysterically funny.
The Welshey Arms Hotel (Luvas!) skit with Will Farrell and Drew Barrymore wasn't all that amusing until everyone started cracking up. Then it became hysterically funny.
If you get a chance, watch the Old Prospector Skit on "The Best of Will Farrel". Hilarious skit! Fallon, Sanz and the other guys cannot stop laughing at Farrel. I guess that's why it never made it past dress rehearsal. I have friends that have to leave the room when that skit is on for fear of being killed by uncontrollable laughter.
If you get a chance, watch the Old Prospector Skit on "The Best of Will Farrel". Hilarious skit! Fallon, Sanz and the other guys cannot stop laughing at Farrel. I guess that's why it never made it past dress rehearsal. I have friends that have to leave the room when that skit is on for fear of being killed by uncontrollable laughter.
Damn, i wish SOMEBODY saw last nights sketch just so i could talk about it now. I even called up my friends who usually watch and they also werent watching for some reason.
As for some good news, the Blue Jays aren't last in the AL East anymore!!!!
As for some good news, the Blue Jays aren't last in the AL East anymore!!!!