_Warse - Tuesday, April 20 2004 @ 03:35 AM EDT
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The better team on paper might have lost, but the Flames deserved to win the series. They worked harder, played through more injuries (Simon, Gauthier, Lydman and Yelle) and their superstar put them on their back in a BIG way. Besides, any #3 seed who loses 3 games in their own barn doesn't deserve to win a series.
As a side note, 17th Ave in Calgary (a stretch of restaurants and bars that runs for about 20 blocks downtown) has been going insane for about the last 3 hours with horns and flags and the like, and it's awesome!!
As a side note, 17th Ave in Calgary (a stretch of restaurants and bars that runs for about 20 blocks downtown) has been going insane for about the last 3 hours with horns and flags and the like, and it's awesome!!
Wish I could have been there. I drive around with a little Flames flag on my car here in London, ON and people just kind of look at it and shrug.
Shrike: Are you talking about the penalty to Jovanovski? He cross-checked the Calgary player from behind three times before getting called for high-sticking.
No one likes to see a penalty called in the last few minutes of a playoff game, but if the refs throw away their whistles, then the players stop following the rules of the game. The threat of penalization has to be real if it's going to deter dirty play.
Besides, the Flames also got nailed with a late-game penalty.
You might be referring to another incident (I only caught the tail end of the third), in which case this comment is pretty irrelevant.
_Jacko - Tuesday, April 20 2004 @ 10:35 AM EDT
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Nobody, including the announcers, talked much about the stuffed Canucks toy which was thrown on the ice as Iginla was taking aim at the open net. I figured Vancouver should get a bench minor for that. Nothing in the newspapers this morning either.
Shortly afterwards. Iglina had his stick slashed out of his hands, a play which was penalized just minutes earlier. He then fell over his stick, which gave Naslund room to break out down the left side, and set up the eventual game tying goal.
I was quite happy to see Calgary pull this one out in overtime. For the aforementioned reasons, I thought the second Vancouver goal was a bit bogus.
One last thing: Iginla's second goal was great, but didn't the Vancouver defenseman beside him have plenty of time to tie up his stick? Instead he went for the body, and Iginla was free to bring the puck across and score the goal.
Having your stick slashed out of your hands is NOT a penalty unless the guy slashed his hands or forearms in the process. This may have happened, but stuff like that gets missed all the time by referees: probably about 90% of slashing incidents are not called. Perhaps the earlier incident occured in plain view of the ref.
The fact is that the NHL hockey today is full of infractions that go uncalled. Full.
Craig B - Tuesday, April 20 2004 @ 10:51 AM EDT
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The better team on paper might have lost, but the Flames deserved to win the series.
Much like Montreal-Boston, the winning team played better in five of the seven games. Both series were deserved victories.
I would suggest that if Vancouver want to start winning in the playoffs, they need to address the defensive contribution by their forwards. At times this year, the lackadaisical effort by the Vancouver wingers at backchecking has been utterly shocking.
the Flames also got nailed with a late-game penalty
As did Boston in the early game on Lapointe, pushing Brisebois headfirst into the boards. But it was a case of "I can't not call it" both times... the referees can't let players risk injury by declining to police the game.
Shortly afterwards. Iglina had his stick slashed out of his hands, a play which was penalized just minutes earlier. He then fell over his stick, which gave Naslund room to break out down the left side, and set up the eventual game tying goal.
the refs have been calling slashes that break the stick all playoffs (which if you ask me is bogus because the composite sticks break so easily). the weird thing about the penalty given to calgary earlier in the game is that it was the calgary player's (the slasher's) stick that broke. iginla's stick wasn't broken so i think that's why it wasn't called. not to mentions there was about 10 seconds left in the game. there would have been a riot if it was called. besides, nasland was by iginla by the time he fell and iginla recovered in time to knock down a canuck player (forget who but it obviously wasn't cooke).
F*@~! Damn officiating wrecked the Canucks vs. Flames Game 7. And the better team lost.
i hate to say it but you're starting to sound like a leafs fan. every time i hear brian burke whine i can't help think about pat quinn either...
Craig B - Tuesday, April 20 2004 @ 11:50 AM EDT
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One bone to pick with the CBC commentators too. They are OBSESSED with size, to the point that they harped for seven whole games about how Claude Julien didn't want their first (Zednik-Koivu-Kovalev) and second (Ribeiro, Ryder, Dagenais) lines out against Boston's "big line" of Thornton, Knuble, and Murray. How the big line made it impossible for Montreal's scoring lines to play their game, and so forth. The phrase "700-pound line", I must have heard 70 times over seven games.
This, of course, ignores that Claude Julien had Koivu matching up against Thornton every time he could get him out there.
Well, the big boys STUNK. They combined for four goals and *one* assist in seven games and were minus thirteen.
Montreal's top line? Ten goals, fourteen assists, and plus seventeen. The little guys on the second line didn't score much (two goals by Ribeiro and four assists) but were plus two and I think more than that against the big line. They consistently ate Joe Thornton for lunch.
Comparatively, Boston's best players, Patrice Bergeron and Jiri Slegr, barely got a mention. I really wonder sometimes if the commentators get so wrapped up in trying to fill every second of space with chatter that they forget to watch the games going on in front of them.
To be fair, the TSN and Sportsnet guys have the same mindless obsession with big players. But it is irritating. There is more to the game of hockey than being 6'4".
To be fair, the TSN and Sportsnet guys have the same mindless obsession with big players. But it is irritating. There is more to the game of hockey than being 6'4".
Don't I know it!
Last night's game: Went to bed when it was 1-0 Calgary. It's weird, but I was sure the Flames were going to lose. I wouldn't have been too upset if they had, though, because it's been a heck of a run. It's been about 10 years since I enjoyed watching a Flames team as much as I do these guys. I don't like their chances against Detroit, but so what? It's been such a thrill just to see my team in a playoff game that the outcome of those games can't bring me down any.
As you can imagine a pretty happy Cowtown last night.They lit the flame on the Calgary tower and I could hear hooting and honking even here in the far suburbs of town late into the night. Fifeteen long years of frustration finally over.
Calgary won because they were better 5 on 5, outscoring Vancouver 11-6 and because of the Kipprusoff factor.I'm not very optimistic about facing the Wings. Calgary is missing 2 of their top 4 defencemen and 3 of their top six forwards.Still it'll be fun.
I wonder which city will be in ecstasy tommorow,Toronto or Ottawa?
i hope the sens win sooooooooo much. i don't know if i can take another toronto run deep into the playoffs and the media circle jerk that goes along with it.
I don't like their chances against Detroit, but so what?
As a Wings fan, I actually wanted Calgary to play Detroit in the playoffs, just because of one great 2-1 game they had this year, not because it should be an easy win. :) But I'm saying Wings in 6, following the same pattern as the Nashville series -- WWLLWW.
Craig B - Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 03:58 PM EDT
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Having worn a Canadiens jersey to the game, I am lucky to be alive.
Buncha savages in that town. Visiting fans get welcomed (though mocked) in practically every city in North America. Only in Boston do they act like they're still in Europe. Why is that?