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The Jays continue their quest for revenge - a three-game sweep of the Tigers in their park - tonight. Fans in Canada will have radio coverage to look forward to, or else pay nearly 6 dollars for pay-per-view. Our American colleagues with Extra Innings will have a chance to see the game for no additional charge. Gitz, I expect a full report.

Nate Robertson, who pitched very well in relief in Game #2 at Skydome for a 4-inning save, will make his first start of the season against Ted Lilly, a deceptive lefthander with a sneaky fastball.


Completely O.T.

Watching Billy Koch get torched today for four runs in less than an inning of work to blow a 3-run lead and the save (the Sox won it in the bottom of the 9th), I was reminded of how great a trade J.P. made to get Eric Hinske (and Justin Miller) for the troubled flamethrower. Koch's fastball was straight as a string and seemed to be a few MPH slower than in his prime. Because he can't locate his pitches well, he's vulnerable to implosion.
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_Donkit R.K. - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:55 PM EDT (#72356) #
Where's the online radio coverage tonight, boys ;-) ? I'll be watching my beloved Leafs *shields self from thrown trash* but a little baseball in the intermissions and post game is always refreshing.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:55 PM EDT (#72357) #
Cash batting in the seven spot! Good for him.
Pepper Moffatt - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:56 PM EDT (#72358) #
I'll be watching my beloved Leafs *shields self from thrown trash*

I can't poke fun. I'm still too happy about that fabulous Calgary Flames game last night
_Mick - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:56 PM EDT (#72359) #
Did you know that Bill Veeck once wanted to trade White Sox then-prospect Norm Cash for Andy Carey just so he could see the headline "Cash and Carey"? True story.
_Jacko - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:56 PM EDT (#72360) #
From the front page of the official site:

Next Game: Wed., April 14 @ 7:05 p.m. ET
TV: Pay Per View Radio: CKTB 610

My only question is:

Pay Per View? Where?
_Donkit R.K. - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:57 PM EDT (#72361) #
Mike, I'm elated from that game as well. I've been telling anyone that would listen that the Flames would handle the 'Nucks (It'd be much closer if Bert was still around, though). I also thought all season that Hedberg would be a better starter then Cloutier. Of course, on that front, I could just be wrong ;-)
Coach - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:57 PM EDT (#72362) #
Pay-per-view is $5.99 on Viewer's Choice for Rogers customers, AFAIK.

Don't forget that Mike Wilner will have J.P. Ricciardi as his guest on the post-game show every Wednesday throughout the season. Starting next week, you'll be able to phone in, but for tonight only, if you have a question for J.P., post it here and it just might get on the air.
_Mick - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:58 PM EDT (#72363) #
"Pay Per View Radio"??
Is that like "Braille for the Deaf"?
_Jordan - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 06:59 PM EDT (#72364) #
In case you're wondering, mass confusion reigned when Robert and I both posted game threads simultaneously. This is now the offical Game Thread. That is all.
robertdudek - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:00 PM EDT (#72365) #
Pay-per-view is channel 319 (I think) for Rogers Digital subscribers, at least in Toronto.
_Jacko - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:02 PM EDT (#72366) #
Pay per view?

That is freaking lame. Are they simulcasting the Detroit broadcast or something?

The chances of finding any sports bar in Toronto that would have a TV tuned to the game are pretty remote...
robertdudek - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:07 PM EDT (#72367) #
As yesterday, audio feed available at CKTB.
_Jacko - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:07 PM EDT (#72368) #
QUESTIONS FOR J.P.:

Why was Brandon League moved to the bullpen in Manchester? Wouldn't a pitcher of his age and experience be better off logging some innings as a starter, say in Dunedin? Same question applies to Vince Perkins.

(more a question for Tosca but...) Why hasn't Josh Towers done any work in long relief? Isn't he going to be awfully rusty when he finally makes his first start?
_Ryan Day - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:11 PM EDT (#72369) #
Okay, this is starting to bug me. Tom Cheek keeps referring to the Tigers' catcher as I-Rod (which is silly, but okay by me), but keeps going on to elaborate that his full name is Ivan Rodriguez.

There's no point in a nickname if you're going to give the full name, immediately after, every time.
_Cristian - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:11 PM EDT (#72370) #
I think most people favoured the Flames against the Canucks. As an Oilers fan I thought I would be cheering for the Canucks but the Canuck fans chanting the 'na na na na goodbye' song in the last game of the season to eliminate the Oilers made me change allegiances. Kiprussoff has a chance to be this year's Giguere. The Canucks are like the Flyers of the West: not going anywhere until they have a top notch goaltender.

On topic, an ignomious start for Hermanson as he strikes out in the first.
_Cristian - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:14 PM EDT (#72371) #
Ack...I mean ignominious.
_Rob - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:23 PM EDT (#72372) #
I'll be watching my beloved Leafs *shields self from thrown trash*

Consider the trash thrown...I cheer for Detroit, so I imagine some of that trash is coming back my way. :)
_Nigel - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:27 PM EDT (#72373) #
Does this first inning ever scream "Kelvim Escobar" to me. Two walks and and infield single and Lilly's 20 pitches into the first inning with one out. It's not surprising that he can't go long in games.
_Rob - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#72374) #
Here's the Jays lineup for anyone interested.

Johnson 9
Hermansen 7
Wells 8
Delgado 3
Phelps DH
Hinske 5
Cash 2
Hudson 4
Woodward 6

Lilly pitching.

Is Cat OK? Or is he just sitting against the lefty Nate Robertson?
Kudos to Cash -- no more 9-hole for him!
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#72375) #
These annoying Tigers. Lilly had Monroe 0-2 then threw a horrible pitch and is lucky to avoid the grand slam, as Monroe settled for a sac fly. Pena follows with a two run double. 3-0 Tigers-what else is new.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#72376) #
While we still might pull a win out of this game, it's almost certainly going to be up to Roy to give the bullpen a break tomorrow.
_Nigel - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#72377) #
Question for JP: When did it become organizational strategy to spot the opposition 3 runs in the first inning? :)
Gitz - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:31 PM EDT (#72378) #
Robert, I'd be happy to give you a full report. Except for the small problem the game isn't on here. Son of a! Thirteen games today, but not the Toronto-Detroit one. Is it possible there are different feeds for differet regions?
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:31 PM EDT (#72379) #
Disturbingly, both Rob and I felt Cash not batting in the ninth spot was worthy of an exclamation point.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:33 PM EDT (#72380) #
Lilly-34 pitches and not out of the 1st.
Coach - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:34 PM EDT (#72381) #
Three walks now, and a wild pitch, in the first inning. Lilly can't even get out the lefty batters; a Higginson single makes it 4-0 and the Tigers have batted around.
_Dez - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:38 PM EDT (#72382) #
Whoops, posted in the wrong topic:

Terrible start for Lilly.. He's made the hitters look sick in getting to 2 strikes, but can't finish them off.
_Spartan - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:38 PM EDT (#72383) #
Damn this is disappointing - got in trouble with those walks. We can't have our "improved rotation" doing this too often.
Craig B - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:40 PM EDT (#72384) #
I really like the new GameDay, and it's fast, but man, they really need to work on getting the right picture up.
Gitz - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:40 PM EDT (#72385) #
Terrible start for Lilly.. He's made the hitters look sick in getting to 2 strikes, but can't finish them off.

Oh ... flashing back ... can't take pain much longer ...
Pepper Moffatt - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:40 PM EDT (#72386) #
http://economics.about.com
When it rains, it pours. Good thing they managed to come back last night!

The game isn't on the radio anywhere (and sound isn't hooked up the computer), so I'm forced to listen to the Leafs. Anyone else think "Calle Johansen" sounds like "Patio Latern"?

Those Calle Johansen
Lighting up our lives
Those Calle Johansen
They were the stars in the sky
_braden - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:41 PM EDT (#72387) #
What's the matter with Cash? That was only a single.
Craig B - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:41 PM EDT (#72388) #
Kevin Cash is hitting .391.
_braden - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:42 PM EDT (#72389) #
I know ;). That was a poor joke in regards to his rash of doubles lately.
Craig B - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:42 PM EDT (#72390) #
Mike Moffat, I hate you. I'm trying to research back-to-back loan arrangements and I'm sitting here singing "Calle Johansson" now.
Craig B - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:43 PM EDT (#72391) #
No, I got the joke. My post was totally independent of yours! We had the same thought, which was CASH IS KING.
Leigh - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:44 PM EDT (#72392) #
How does Hinske go to third on a foul pop-up to the firstbaseman? Perhaps Pena fell into the stands.
Coach - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:44 PM EDT (#72393) #
It's a small sample size, but familiar -- Hudson's 0-for-9 from the right side so far. Woody fans, and the Jays strand a pair.
Pepper Moffatt - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:44 PM EDT (#72394) #
http://economics.about.com
At least you spelled it right. Darn Danish inlaws are corrputing my spelling of Swedish names.

Our house had the biggest patio
Our house had all the summer shade
We had Calle Johanssons
I'd spend half the night making lemonade
_braden - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:45 PM EDT (#72395) #
Gotcha. Unfortunately, the same can not be said for Woodward. I miss Bordick.
_Rob - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:45 PM EDT (#72396) #
Leigh: He was already on 2nd after Cash's single.
_Spartan - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:45 PM EDT (#72397) #
THE GAME IS ON AT CKTB 610

Google it and you'll find the website.
Gerry - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:46 PM EDT (#72398) #
More than half (5) of the Jays lineup is hitting under 200. Wells has the third best average at .226. Better break out the real bats soon.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:46 PM EDT (#72399) #
How does Hinske go to third on a foul pop-up to the firstbaseman? Perhaps Pena fell into the stands.

Pena made a nice catch falling over the tarp down the right field line. He threw across the diamond, but it was cut by the shortstop-so Hinkse made it standing up.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:47 PM EDT (#72400) #
Another nice play by Hudson ranging up the middle to get Vina.
_Rob - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:49 PM EDT (#72401) #
Oops. Never mind my post, Leigh. I thought you said "How does Hinske go from first to third"
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:49 PM EDT (#72402) #
Lilly looks a whole lot better this inning. He just struck out Guillen on a well-located fastball.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:49 PM EDT (#72403) #
Something tells me Lilly won't be earning the moniker Mr. Consistency anytime soon.
_Paul D - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:53 PM EDT (#72404) #
I can't get the 610 site to work.

ANy other sites out there carrying the game?
I found the Detroit station's webpage, and they're not putting it on the internet...
_braden - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:54 PM EDT (#72405) #
For anyone who has access to both GameDay and the radio, how far behind is GameDay?
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:55 PM EDT (#72406) #
Gameday is one or two pitches ahead of the radio, for me.
_Spartan - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:56 PM EDT (#72407) #
Gameday is actually "ahead" of the radio.
_Ryan Lind - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:56 PM EDT (#72408) #
Can't get the audio to work today, but yesterday I had gameday and audio going on the net, and I actually found that Gameday was about 5 seconds ahead of the audio.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:57 PM EDT (#72409) #
Robertson absolutely owns the Jays. A great outing in the first series, now he just struck out the side in the 3rd. Ugh.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:57 PM EDT (#72410) #
Robertson seems to have the Jays number, striking out all three of our outfielders this inning.

So...how's Gross doing so far this year?
_StephenT - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:58 PM EDT (#72411) #
U.S. cable and U.S. satellite have different Extra Innings schedules. Just satellite has the Jays game tonight. I'm guessing it's that cable has fewer channels and shares them with NHL playoff games.

PPV: When I selected 'Buy' on channel 319 on Rogers Digital Cable (here in Ottawa), I was asked to enter a PIN. I didn't know my PIN. Took me a few minutes to think to just try a number (0-0-0-0) and it worked. It's the Tigers Fox broadcast and includes the commercials. (Funny part is, I don't actually have time to watch much of the games tonight. I just wanted to see if it worked.)
_braden - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 07:58 PM EDT (#72412) #
Wow, I never would have expected that. Either Gameday has really improved since last year or the radio feed has been bad. Thanks guys.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:02 PM EDT (#72413) #
The Tigers seem to be pretty comfortable when they get a lead, which could be dangerous for them if Lilly continues to pitch as he has the last two innings. The Jays bats *should* figure out Robertson, who has thrown 56 pitches through three innings.

UUU in uniform tonight? We may see/hear his first appearence of the year.
Thomas - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:05 PM EDT (#72414) #
Where will be able to listen to Wilner's postgame with JP?

CKTB?
_Nigel - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:05 PM EDT (#72415) #
This is an absolutely classic Escobarian performance tonight by Lilly. I would expect another couple of innings of dominance followed by a labourious closing unless Captain Hook gets him out before that happens.
_Ryan Lind - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:16 PM EDT (#72416) #
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/mlb_sortable_team_stats.jsp?baseballScope=AL&statType=1&sitSplit=&groupByTeam=true&Submit=Submit&timeFrame=1&timeSubFrame=2004&&sortByStat=AVG
Heh.

So far in this early season, the three worst teams in the AL in batting average are ... Boston, NYY, and the Jays. COMN

The Blue Jays also "lead" the AL in strikeouts, and are second to last in walks.

Just thought I'd share...
_Rob - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:18 PM EDT (#72417) #
Grr. 610 CKTV keeps putting its ads over the play-by-play. Oh, and still 4-0 DET after 4 complete.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:24 PM EDT (#72418) #
Sparky homers, cutting the Tigers lead in half. He's shown some nice pop, now it's time to start getting singles and doubles.
_Cwall - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:24 PM EDT (#72419) #
yeah. 4-2. reed johnson home run... what's wrong with the jays and first inning.
_braden - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:24 PM EDT (#72420) #
And the Blue Jays are in flight!
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:25 PM EDT (#72421) #
Nice! Reed hits a homer to left after a Woody walk to make it 4-2. A real bad 0-2 pitch by Robertson-fastball down the middle. Reed isn't hitting a whole lot-but he does have two HR's. Who woulda thunk?
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:25 PM EDT (#72422) #
After the two run homer, two pitches, two outs.

In fairness, Wells gave his pitch a ride, just missing in hitting a homer.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:25 PM EDT (#72423) #
Eeee, Wells almost followed him and flew out to the wall.
_Nigel - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:27 PM EDT (#72424) #
Jack, I'm agree with your point though. Very bad approaches to AB's with a guy who's tiring.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:37 PM EDT (#72425) #
Sounds like Hinske has made a couple of good plays at third. Has anyone been particularly impressed/unimpressed with his D so far this year?
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:37 PM EDT (#72426) #
Hinske just made a great play to save a run. It was his second diving play down the line (although the first one he wasn't able to throw the guy out). He's looking decent down there.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:39 PM EDT (#72427) #
Jack-you're beating me to everything! Hinske has looked pretty good to me. He's still short arming it-but that's how he'll always throw. I've liked what I've seen in this short season (and especially today).
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:40 PM EDT (#72428) #
Great minds, Doc!

Esteban Yan is into the game, which can't do anything but help.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:45 PM EDT (#72429) #
Baaah. Cash struck out for the second time to end an inning with a guy on second. The 0-1 pitch looked like one Cash should have hammered-pretty much right down the guy and he just missed it-fouling it off.
_Wilner - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:46 PM EDT (#72430) #
That's the last time I ever check in with you guys during a game. I hope I don't break into song while I'm talking to JP on the post-game show.

Who was gonna be
who would be the first to kiss
under those Calle Johannsons

Damn you all!
Pepper Moffatt - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:49 PM EDT (#72431) #
http://economics.about.com
Someone really has to Mr. Wilner's after-game show with the name "Calle Johannson". Just in case it he isn't able to keep it stuck in his head until then. :)
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 08:54 PM EDT (#72432) #
Whoops-I meant right down the "guT", not right down the guy, whatever that means. Must get to Yan this inning-at least Hudson's flipped back to his better side.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:01 PM EDT (#72433) #
The Jays have hit about 6 weeks worth of warning track shots in these first 8 games. Eat your Wheaties boys!
_Cristian - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:01 PM EDT (#72434) #
De los Santos pitches a full inning. Compound this with yesterday's bullpen management and it's fair to say someone had a little discussion with Tosca.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:07 PM EDT (#72435) #
de los Santos impresses again, run notwithstanding.

Ligtenberg comes in to face Pudge and pitch the eigth, I assume. Is it too late to change my save prediction to Speier with 31?
Leigh - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:14 PM EDT (#72436) #
Moffatt, you've got me singing Kim Mitchell and I can't stop.

I have to write a Conflict of Laws exam in morning, so the way I see it, you owe me one ditty incorporating the words Tolofson, Morguard and, if possible, lex loci delicti.
_braden - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:28 PM EDT (#72437) #
that hurts. Looks like Cash has come back to earth.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:29 PM EDT (#72438) #
Argh. Guys on 2nd and 3rd with one out and Cash strikes out, then Hudson swings at ball 4 on a 3-1 count. Solid game from Hinske-nothing doing below him in the order.
_Ryan Lind - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:29 PM EDT (#72439) #
Argh, so frustrating.

The Jays have to be last in the league with RISP. If not last, then at least the bottom five.
_Gabriel - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:33 PM EDT (#72440) #
"The Jays have to be last in the league with RISP. If not last, then at least the bottom five"

Even worse...they can't guys home bases loadced nobody out. Or second and third one out. These are easy RISP chances, not your runner on second with 2 out kind. Like opening day after Woodward's amazing triple. Cash grounded out to third and then Johnson grounded out to third. This team seems to have very poor pitch selection early on.
_Matthew E - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:36 PM EDT (#72441) #
They're last in the league in everything else; why not RISP?
_Fozzy - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:39 PM EDT (#72442) #
Am I the only other person who can't get CKTB's webcast to ever work? Dang this fandangled technology. Any other options for me?
_Fozzy - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:41 PM EDT (#72443) #
Nevermind, I just checked Gameday and it's the 9th. Darn.
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:43 PM EDT (#72444) #
Reed just got robbed.
_Gabriel - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:43 PM EDT (#72445) #
What is "Gameday"?. I use Sportsline mostly and ESPN Gamecast sometimes. Is Gameday better?
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:44 PM EDT (#72446) #
Wow, the Mariners sent Soriano to A-Ball. Anyone know why they would do that?
robertdudek - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:45 PM EDT (#72447) #
My guess is rehab. Soriano isn't fully fit and needs to add about 7 MPH to get back to where he was last year.
_Gabriel - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:46 PM EDT (#72448) #
The Mariners are just stupid now. They gave Ibanez way too much money and lost a draft pick. They could have had similar OFers for much less without giving up a pick.
_Rob - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:47 PM EDT (#72449) #
Just a harmless question..do Soriano's A-Ball stats count in The Leftovers? Please say yes.
Thomas - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:47 PM EDT (#72450) #
So anywhere we could listen to Wilner besides CKTB which doesn't appear to be working?
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:49 PM EDT (#72451) #
Infuriating. Finished the game 1-9 with RISP, with the last one a really painful GIDP.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:49 PM EDT (#72452) #
Game over, 5-3. Vernon GIDP to end it.
_Gwyn - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:50 PM EDT (#72453) #
Soriano missed some time in the spring, it looks like he isn't in top shape yet. Apparently his fastball is still a few mph slower than it was last year.
_JackFoley - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:50 PM EDT (#72454) #
The odds were you'd get me once, Zarco.
_Ryan Lind - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:50 PM EDT (#72455) #
Big chance for Carlos' bat to wake up...

Oops, nvm, VW into a Double Play. :(
_Donkit R.K. - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:51 PM EDT (#72456) #
After battling to stay alive after falling behind 0-2... consarnit!
_Fozzy - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:52 PM EDT (#72457) #
Oh sure, the 610 Internet feed works when the game is over....
Gerry - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 09:56 PM EDT (#72458) #
Tonight was the last Raptor game so the Fan590 will be back on track next game.

The "technical issues" that stop questions for JP last week and this would be the raptor call-in show after their games.
_endos - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#72459) #
Why was Brandon League moved to the bullpen in Manchester? Wouldn't a pitcher of his age and experience be better off logging some innings as a starter, say in Dunedin? Same question applies to Vince Perkins.

JP answered this as his last question - League is in teh pen to develop a second pitch, and will be a bullpen guy in the future. Perkins is there to get back in shape after an injury
_Dr. Zarco - Wednesday, April 14 2004 @ 10:58 PM EDT (#72461) #
2. He wasn't without concerns about the offense. He expected some slippage from Vernon and Carlos, but figured Phelps and Hinske would improve.

Phelps and Hinske ARE both off to better starts than they finished at last year. But I can't think by "slippage," he meant Vernon hitting .229 and Carlos at a whopping .161. I know, I know, just 8 games, I don't expect this to be a season-long trend-but it's certainly played a big role in the Jays being 2-6.
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