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  1. Fordin's report from yesterday's 6-5 win over the Pirates. If you haven't already read my Pirates preview!

  2. Fordin Notes on yesterday's game. Today it's Josh Towers vs. Nate Robinson of the Tigers. This one available anywhere?

  3. Chris Zelkovich of the Star interviews Jays broadcaster Tom Cheek in "The Iron Man of radio".

  4. Star reporter Geoff Baker gives us "College kids take on Bosox". What's with all the Red Sox articles in the Toronto media lately?

  5. Richard Griffin talks about some of the young pitchers we saw on the weekend in "Tosca gives kids a taste of the big time".

  6. Has Bob Elliott been reading the Box? His article "Patience is the key for Rios" would suggest that he may be. Welcome aboard, Bob!

  7. The Globe's Larry Millson informs us that Woodward gets hop on No. 1 job". You can also read Millson's take on yesterday's game.

  8. Florida Today reports that "Arnold struggles against Pirates". Jason is a native of Melbourne, Florida, so I'm not surprised that a Florida newspaper is following his exploits. Go get 'em next time, JA!

  9. Is anyone else going to be following the flurry of NHL trades we should see today? If the Leafs pick up any more former Flames, I think I'm going to cry. Nieuwendyk, Reichel, Roberts, and Kidd are enough!

  10. Last, but not least, "Sheffield May Be Out Two to Three Months". This would seem to help everyone but the Jays, as Sheffield should be back by the time the two squads meet. So is Jeter going to play center?


Between the Jays game, the NHL trade deadline, and a Panthers-Leafs game, this should be a good day for Toronto sports. The Raptors are playing too, but they're 27-36, so other than Burley, who cares? The scary thing is that they'll still likely make the playoffs!
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Joe - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 08:39 AM EST (#76573) #
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What's with the anti-Tom Cheek slant I've noted?
_Mike Mofffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 08:42 AM EST (#76574) #
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What's with the anti-Tom Cheek slant I've noted?

My comments weren't intentionally anti-Cheek. Just making a reference. :)

Cheers,

Mike
_Mick - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 08:51 AM EST (#76575) #
Yeah, they were sort of cheeky Cheek comments.

I'd love to see Jeter move to CF, though of course it won't happen. If the trade hadn't happened, Soriano probably would have moved to the OF in the wake of this week's events.

Did ANYONE have Sheffield in the First Yankee to Go DL in 2004? Or does Williams beat him to that designation? And wouldn't the smart money have been on Kevin Brown, Mariano Rivera or Kenny Lofton?
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 08:59 AM EST (#76576) #
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I don't mean to pick on Cheek, but this was just asinine:

Q Are you happy with the state of the game?

A The state of the game distresses me a bit. When I was a kid I could give you the roster of the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Giants, mainly because it was basically the same every year. If you had a favourite team, it was your team. Now players change teams so often fans have trouble identifying with them.

Q How do you fix it?

A Baseball badly needs a salary cap like the NFL has. There's tremendous parity in the NFL. When they kick it off in the fall you have no idea who's going to win. Obviously, when you've got one team spending $180 million and another is spending $50 million, parity is going to take a back seat.


I understand the arguments that baseball needs a salary cap for competitive balance and all that. It's almost a universally held opinion. But a salary cap in order to prevent players from changing teams so often? Does he follow the NFL at all?!?

I hope this was just a case of bad editing by the person typing up the interview, because I can't imagine two more contradictory statements.

Cheers,

Mike
_Jordan - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 09:03 AM EST (#76577) #
Apropos of the NFL: does anyone else think that Terrell Owens will be to Baltimore what Keyshawn Johnson was to Tampa Bay?
Pistol - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 09:25 AM EST (#76578) #
No, TO is a great WR who is also a loud-mouth. Ray Lewis runs that team - he won't put up with any crap like SF did. I think it'll work out fine.

Keyshawn is just a loud-mouth who thinks he is great.
_EddieZosky - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 09:32 AM EST (#76579) #
Would somebody hurry up and get the lyric already?! It's frigging driving me nuts.

The "in the air" makes mne think Phill Collins, but the "fun fun fun" makes me think Kraftwerk.
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 09:34 AM EST (#76580) #
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The "in the air" makes mne think Phill Collins, but the "fun fun fun" makes me think Kraftwerk.

Note: The title and the first line reference two different songs, but they're by the same artist. :)

Cheers,

Mike
Named For Hank - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 09:50 AM EST (#76581) #
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Fun, fun, fun makes me think of Fatboy Slim's old band.

There's a good trade tracker at Sportsnet's website, for those following Deadline Day.
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 09:53 AM EST (#76582) #
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Fun, fun, fun makes me think of Fatboy Slim's old band.

Ahh.. I didn't even catch the unintentional Housemartins reference. Nice!

I had no idea Fatboy Slim was in the Housemartins until someone pointed it out to me about a month ago.

Thanks for the link.. now I won't get *any* work done today. :)

Cheers,

Mike
Named For Hank - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:05 AM EST (#76584) #
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Mike: my aim is to drag everyone else's productivity down to my level. ;)

Hey, Christmas, you lucky man. How many Spring Training games are you hitting?
robertdudek - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:15 AM EST (#76585) #
7. Noah Hall ran himself out of a hit.

What did he do, run to third instead of to first? ;-)
robertdudek - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:16 AM EST (#76586) #
Mike: my aim is to drag everyone else's productivity down to my level. ;)

Now that's a "race to the bottom" that I can handle.
_Matthew E - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:35 AM EST (#76587) #
Doc was throwing a change on Sunday. The run off him was an Eric Hinske slow throw to first and a hard hit ball.

I've heard that Hinske play described two ways - 1) Hinske played the ball well but Abreu just beat it out, and 2) it would have been a routine play for a real third baseman but Hinske couldn't do it. Which of those?

And let's not start reading too much into the events of these games; it's early March, for heaven's sake.
Coach - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:41 AM EST (#76588) #
10. Jayson Werth won't make the team.

JKCL, please elaborate. We appreciate getting your eyewitness impressions, but if Werth isn't the fourth OF, who is?

2. Adam Peterson is really, really, far from the majors.

Sure, kick a guy with a 135.00 ERA while he's down. I'm more inclined to accept another viewpoint, courtesy of Mr. Griffin's latest informative column.

"Adam had some trouble," pitching coach Gil Patterson understated. "He overthrew and cut some pitches off. We talked yesterday and he said, 'You know something, next game I'm just going to do what I've always done.' Sometimes it takes an outing like he had the other day to teach you that lesson."

Sometimes, it takes years for a young pitcher to grasp the idea that you need exactly the same stuff you used in AAA, and exactly the same even keel emotionally, to get big league hitters out. Throwing harder than usual to any batter is counter-productive.
_Jim Acker - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:48 AM EST (#76589) #
Please read Michael Lewis' article in Sports Illustrated. In his arcticle that defends himself against the backlash from the baseball establishment, Lewis dedicates almost a page the the Jays and Riccardi. He even includes the stupidity of our favourite "baseball" writers, Baker and Griffin.

good times
_JimmyAAA - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 11:02 AM EST (#76590) #
The "in the air" makes me think Phill Collins, but the "fun fun fun" makes me think Kraftwerk.

I think Kraftwerk thinks radioactivity is fun, fun, fun.
_Jonny German - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 11:31 AM EST (#76591) #
Please read Michael Lewis' article in Sports Illustrated

Can somebody tell me what the date is on the issue that has this article? Also, what issue of Baseball America has the Top 100 prospects?
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 11:40 AM EST (#76592) #
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Mike: my aim is to drag everyone else's productivity down to my level. ;)

Now that's a "race to the bottom" that I can handle.


Heh heh. I ended up doing some work at Starbucks, just so I could get away from all the distractions. :)

I think Kraftwerk thinks radioactivity is fun, fun, fun.

Yep! The song in the title is Kraftwerk's Radioactivity, the second was a bastardization of Autobahn. (They're actually saying Wir fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn and not The Fun, Fun, Fun of the Autobahn which it sounds like).

Cheers,

Mike
Coach - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:13 PM EST (#76593) #
Mike's Sheffield link has a new headline: Yankees' Sheffield to Return This Week.

"We're not out of the woods on this, don't get me wrong," Cashman said. "But today's news was certainly more encouraging, after the hand specialist in New York saw him, than yesterday's news."

False alarm.
_dp - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:20 PM EST (#76594) #
(They're actually saying Wir fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn and not The Fun, Fun, Fun of the Autobahn which it sounds like).

I was getting all ready jump on you for this until you qualified it. Goofiest lyrics ever.

BTW- Ever heard Senor Coconut's album of salsa kraftwerk covers? "We are the robots- cha cha cha!"
_Matt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:21 PM EST (#76595) #
I can't find the lewis article on SI.com at all.... I'd be intrigued to read it though....
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:31 PM EST (#76596) #
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I was getting all ready jump on you for this until you qualified it. Goofiest lyrics ever.

Kraftwerk is king of the misheard lyrics, despite the fact that most Kraftwerk songs have only 20 different words in them. I thought more people would recognize it as fun, fun, fun, and not fahren, fahren, fahren. Plus if I started writing in German it would have pretty much given it away.

I just think it's funny that I found a page with misheard Kraftwerk lyrics on it!

Cheers,

Mike
_Jim Acker - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:44 PM EST (#76597) #
I'm sure what date the Lewis article was published, but it's the SI issues with the Timberwolves on the cover. Hope that helps
_R Billie - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:45 PM EST (#76598) #
False alarm.

Billies Bashers were never worried for one second. Now if we can just help Shef flush all evidence of steroid use we'll be in the clear.
_Norm in Markham - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:48 PM EST (#76599) #
Baker!!! Is that the same guy that wrote that vile trash White Jays story? I don't read him anymore.
_Mike Wilner - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:52 PM EST (#76600) #
Since someone asked yesterday whether games can be heard online, I thought I'd inform you all that every Jays spring home game can be heard at mlb.com, though I think you have to subscribe. Road games you have to listen to the Fan 590 for my updates at the top of every hour.

Two other things I feel I need to add:

-Tom Cheek is neither blind, nor has he lost his mind. The man is the consummate professional.

-I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying the 80's music references
_JimmyAAA - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:56 PM EST (#76601) #
I think Kraftwerk thinks radioactivity is fun, fun, fun.

Yep! The song in the title is Kraftwerk's Radioactivity, the second was a bastardization of Autobahn. (They're actually saying Wir fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn and not The Fun, Fun, Fun of the Autobahn which it sounds like).


I really can't claim this one. If Eddie Z. hadn't pointed out Fun, Fun, Fun as Kraftwerk and them Mike stating they were two songs from the same group, I never would have got it.

Personally, I could not get the sappy Paul Young song "Love is in the Air" out of my head.

JimmyAAA
_Steve Z - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 12:59 PM EST (#76602) #
The SkyChiefs start their official workouts today. Here's a preview of one of the most talented AAA teams, from the Syracuse Post-Standard.

Unfortunately, there's no audio feed for today's game in Lakeland. Towers gets the start, with Durocher, Lopez, File, and Chen backing him up. Gomez and Pond get starts at the corners. Has anyone heard Howie Clark's name yet? I don't think he's appeared in a game yet. Last year at this time, he was sidelined for all of spring training with injury. Hopefully he's alive and able to fight it out with Pond for the final roster spot. As it is now, Pond seems like the early favourite.
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 01:09 PM EST (#76603) #
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-Tom Cheek is neither blind, nor has he lost his mind. The man is the consummate professional.

I really wasn't trying to imply anything, though since at least two people got that idea, I must have failed miserably. I was just quoting Black Sabbath's Iron Man since the title of the article was "The Iron Man of radio". Coz you see he's the Iron Man of radio, and they often play Black Sabbath's Iron Man on the radio, and, ummm yeah.

Personally I prefer listening to the Jays on the radio then listening to Cerutti/Faulds, and Tom Cheek is a big part of that.

I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying the 80's music references

Excellent! Glad I've been doing something right. :)

Cheers,

Mike
Pistol - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 01:27 PM EST (#76604) #
I got a chance to read the Lewis article. There wasn’t anything too new in it that hasn’t already been dissected online in various places. It was from a couple weeks ago, with the T-Wolves on the cover.

One thing I found amusing was that Lewis said that JP told him his favorite day of the 2002 season (or some similar description) was the day that the Yankees RF dropped a ball and Steinbrenner had the Yankees call to get Mondesi.
_Keith Talent - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 01:38 PM EST (#76605) #
Did Peter Gammons used to sing in that group Wings?
_Steve Z - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 01:40 PM EST (#76606) #
Hermansen hit a HR off Nathan Robertson in the second inning. 2-0 Jays so far. It's laready shaping up to be a better race for the 4th OF spot than last-year's Colangelo/Ryan/Aven battle. It's hard to believe Tom Wilson came out of camp last year as the Jays 4th OF!
_R Billie - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 01:55 PM EST (#76607) #
Today's game against Detroit doesn't look like it's on MLB Radio even.
_Oggman - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:08 PM EST (#76608) #
I know it's early, but I'm throwing this out there to get it in peoples heads. "Named for Hank" over at www.bluejayscheerclub.com and I have come up with the idea for the BlueJaysBeerClub.

Basically its a weekly get together where Jays fans can catch an away game with other fans. We pick one away game a week, hopefully it'll be the best match-up of the week, but logistics always come into play. I have a feeling more people will be up for going out to watch a game on a Thursday night, then a Monday. Once a game has been picked, we select a bar located in or around downtown TO, preferebly by a TTC station so us lazy @sses who spend $100/month of our hard earned cash can get good use out of our TTC Monthly Pass.

ESPN has the Fighting Jays sked divided into first and second halves. So take a look and start plotting.

I know this was more a midweek idea when it came up, but that weekend series the Jays have in Boston 9-11th could be promising, especially if ESPN is accurate and there is no TV for the midweek series at Comerica Park.

You can email me here, or head to www.BlueJaysCheerClub.com. I believe a link to a mailing list has been set up there.

Cheers,
Andrew
_R Billie - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:08 PM EST (#76609) #
No radio today but the Jays are leading 3-0 in the middle of the 4th. Chad Hermenson has a homerun.
_Steve Z - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:11 PM EST (#76610) #
Wilner's update:
- Towers gave up four singles through two innings, but was helped out by some good D, including a great throw by Reed Johnson
- Hermansen's two-run homer in the 2nd was a no-doubter to left
- Pond doubled, scoring Johnson in the third
- 3-0 Jays in the bottom of the 4th, with Chulk pitching his second frame
Coach - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:13 PM EST (#76611) #
Good for Hermansen. The Pirates gave him a lot of chances, but he's never hit enough before to stick in the majors. His phenomenal 235 AB for Las Vegas last year -- .353/.405/.540 -- was unprecedented, so maybe he figured something out.

Oggman, count me in for beer and baseball.
_EddieZosky - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:24 PM EST (#76612) #
Oggman,

Great Idea. I'm willing to found the Ottawa Chapter (where every game is an away game!). I watched Saturday's game at Hoops on Sparks street where, sadly, I was the only patron.
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:27 PM EST (#76613) #
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Great Idea. I'm willing to found the Ottawa Chapter (where every game is an away game!). I watched Saturday's game at Hoops on Sparks street where, sadly, I was the only patron.

Now there's an idea.. regional chapters of the CheerClub/BeerClub.

Batter's Box regular "Brent" and I are in the London, ON chapter. Anyone want to join us? Where are the rest of you guys from?

Cheers,

Mike
_Simon - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:33 PM EST (#76614) #
Must say I love Cheek and Howarth, grew up on a STEADY diet of them every day for about the past 10 years (i'm 17)...but all in all, Cerutti's not bad. Especially with the broadcast parters he's been stuck with over the years. A couple of BAD baseball announcers.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:34 PM EST (#76615) #
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I'm excited for the Beer Club.

If you guys set up local chapters, let me know and I can post notices of dates and places at bluejayscheerclub.com .
_A - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:40 PM EST (#76616) #
I represent the Montreal Chapter...Until the end of April when I'll be in Toronto...then down the stretch I'm back in MTL.

..Not sure if there are any Expo fans at Da Box (from Montreal) but as a baseball fan looking forward to opening day (any team's opening day), I was extraordinarily peeved when I took a look at the Expos' sked to see their home opener isn't until April TWENTY-THIRD. Puerto Rico gets a look at them before the hometown crowd!
I suppose the long-time Expo fan corps are used to this treatment.
_Rob - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:54 PM EST (#76617) #
The Tigers clawed back to tie it. 3-3 in the bottom of the sixth. Don't know anything else. This isn't on the Internet anywhere for free, is it?
_Oggman - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 02:57 PM EST (#76618) #
His phenomenal 235 AB for Las Vegas last year -- .353/.405/.540 -- was unprecedented, so maybe he figured something out.

When Jay Lopez was off to his blazing start, he was asked about why he was hitting so much better. Turns out in Spring Training he got someone to give him some tape from back in the late 90's when he was hitting so well, and some tape from 2002. Seems that he dropped his hands at some point in 1999 because he had an injury and just got comfortable with them there. It wasn't until ST'03 that he noticed the problem, and corrected it.

I'm in no way saying that this is what has happened it Hermansen, but it could be. Sometimes you just "get it", like when I learned how to take a good slapshot or learned to sing while playing guitar.
_Oggman - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 03:00 PM EST (#76619) #
But don't worry, I don't plan to sing and play guitar at the BeerClub games.
Mike Green - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 03:01 PM EST (#76620) #
"The Tigers clawed back to tie it"...Rob, that's mid-season metaphor form. Ease up, it's only spring training :)
Pistol - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 03:09 PM EST (#76621) #
I was going to chalk up Hermansen's year in LV to the PCL inflation, but he put up a respectable .264 EQA there.
_Rob - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 03:28 PM EST (#76622) #
I couldn't resist using both Tigers and claws.
Gitz - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 03:38 PM EST (#76623) #
Hermanson was old for AAA, so he should be crushing that competition, and while we can't label him a AAAA-hitter yet, that is the path he's on. But if he has figured something out, good for him, and for the Jays.

On an anecdotal level, does it not seem that Hermanson has been around FOREVER? I still can vividly remember him being referred to as "A young SS in the Pirates system." But that was what, 1948?

Mike M., are you going to occasionally dip into the 70s music pot? Some good stuff there, too, although the written form might not play as well as the 80s lyrics do.
_Harry Heatherin - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 03:52 PM EST (#76624) #
occasionally dip into the 70s music pot

Ewww! (I'm 43, I'm ALLOWED to hate [most of] the 70's). *sigh*:

if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made


Any takers? This one's dedicated to all those teams playing above their pythagorean records.
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:00 PM EST (#76625) #
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Mike M., are you going to occasionally dip into the 70s music pot? Some good stuff there, too, although the written form might not play as well as the 80s lyrics do.

I thought I did today. Doesn't 1975 count as the 70's? :)

Problem is, my 1970's music knowledge is all of the classic rock variety, and I think people would get sick of Queen and Thin Lizzy references pretty quickly.

I'd love to see the other Box staffers pick up on the music theme.. we'd probably get all kinds of interesting titles, and I'd be exposed to lots of music I've never heard before, which would be a good thing.

Cheers,

Mike
_Rob - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:01 PM EST (#76626) #
BTW, I just love the 80's music references, seeing as how I was born in 1987 and remember nothing of that decade. Whatever happened to your J-ZLC membership, Moffatt? :)
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:05 PM EST (#76627) #
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BTW, I just love the 80's music references, seeing as how I was born in 1987 and remember nothing of that decade. Whatever happened to your J-ZLC membership, Moffatt? :)

When I was in highschool, I was listening to a lot of 70's music, and I'm only 10 years older than you! Just coz you're young, doesn't mean you have to put up with the ClearChannelization of North American radio. :)

Cheers,

Mike

P.S. There is no Cabal.
_Matthew E - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:05 PM EST (#76628) #
I've got time for music of all eras, but I must admit I know the '50s through the '70s best. I don't know why the '70s get so little musical respect; there was some good stuff happening.
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:08 PM EST (#76629) #
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When you guys mention the 70's what do you mean? I've quoted an XTC song from 1977 and Kraftwerk from 1975, but I don't think that's what people had in mind. Though when I listen to 70's music, it's usually first-wave punk stuff.

So what does 70's music mean to you?

Cheers,

Mike
_MatO - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:08 PM EST (#76630) #
Styx. Grand Illusion. I hate Styx.
Thomas - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:09 PM EST (#76631) #
Toronto scored 4 in the top of the 9th to tie it at 7. I'm unsure how as none of the major websites have game logs going at this point. This BeerClub idea looks like a good one. It'd be nice to watch the away games with fellow fans instead of by myself, or alternatively getting kicked off the TV.
_Harry Heatherin - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:20 PM EST (#76632) #
70's music (by and large) to me means pre-1977 and the clutter of post-60's self-indulgent "rock" or worse - disco.

I personally like a lot that was there in the 70's - Roxy Music, most funk, Velvet Underground, Bowie, Eno, Genesis, Tom Waits (of course!), Ry Cooder, Bob Marley, Tangerine Dream ... it was pop music (BeeGees, Kansas et al) which was moribund and badly in need of a collective enema ... the punk/post-punk explosion shook it all up and lordy it was good (or at least alive)

Jesus yes, I hate Styx too! And don't ever play Supertramp around me. Pop music sucks in just about every era. Which is as it should be.

How about:

"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts"

Bonus question - the name of this song is an anagram for what post-punk band whose debut album was released in '77?
_Spicol - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:20 PM EST (#76633) #
Batter's Box regular "Brent" and I are in the London, ON chapter. Anyone want to join us? Where are the rest of you guys from?

By the time the regular season rolls around, I'll be a Londoner. Or is it Londonite?

Warning: I grew up in a small town. My liver is superhuman.
_Ryan Day - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:25 PM EST (#76634) #
Amazingly, Hermansen is only 26. He was a pretty hotshot prospect up until he hit AAA; in AA in 1997 (when he was only 20), he hit 275/373/478. Then everything fell apart. Basically, he had mediocre plate discipline, and the Pittsburgh organization didn't seem to care.

So it's not unreasonable to suggest that Hermansen has finally mixed his raw talent with some solid teaching and is on his way to being a decent player. I think he could put up some Reed Johnson-like numbers.

Of course, it's also not unreasonable to say "It's just spring training, so take a deep breath."
_Matthew E - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:26 PM EST (#76635) #
So what does 70's music mean to you?

Stevie Wonder. Neil Young. Zevon. Philly soul. Disco. Punk. Funk. Springsteen. Reggae. K-Tel stuff. BTO. April Wine. Other CanCon. Doobie Brothers. John Lennon solo. Wings. Bee Gees. Fleetwood Mac. Like I said, good stuff.
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:29 PM EST (#76636) #
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By the time the regular season rolls around, I'll be a Londoner. Or is it Londonite?

Excellent! We'll be having regular BeerClub meetings at the Alibi Roadhouse at 25 Oxford St. West. Too bad we have to wait for the season to start!

Warning: I grew up in a small town. My liver is superhuman.

My alcohol-tolerance has dissapeared since I stopped being an undergrad. I'm not even going to try to keep up. :)

Cheers,

Mike
_Randy Winter - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:35 PM EST (#76637) #
Barrie, Ontario here.

Anyone see this?

NBC-TV's Jay Leno on the "Tonight Show": "Major-league baseball is now taking the upper hand to deal with the big problem of steroids. Commissioner Selig announced this coming season, sales of steroids will be cut off after the eighth inning."
Gitz - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:50 PM EST (#76638) #
Bingo, Matthew E. There was some great music in the 1970s, above and beyond the Supertramps and Zeppelin comma Leds of the world. Tom Waits is simply fabulous, and I'll add Nick Drake to that chorus of folk singers; he was the Byron of the 1970s, or at least the symbol of Romantic Poets, and I can't believe for a second that Drake would have approved of his music being used in Volkswagon commercials. I know I'm forgetting others, too. I'd like to give a nod to groups like the Bee Gees and ABBA, however; pop-oriented or not, they were alive, and just plain fun. Nothing wrong with that in the abstract, as long as it's balanced with "real" artists like Waits and Drake.

And, Matthew, you forgot about the Eagles, who defy caterogization, much like Wilco does today. For whatever reason, I've been listening to the Eagles a lot lately, and they are flat-out a great band. Either they're improving with age or they're simply improving as I age. But I'm only 34, didn't listen to them much until they had splintered into their various solo careers, and I am only now catching up. It was worth the wait.
_Matthew E - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 04:55 PM EST (#76639) #
You're right; I should have mentioned ABBA and the Eagles. And Meat Loaf. And 'Don't Pull Your Love' by Hamilton, Joe Frank, and Reynolds. 'Sugar Baby Love' by the Rubettes. The Grease soundtrack. 'Layla'. Joni Mitchell. Paul Simon. Gordon Lightfoot. Van Morrison. Oh well; my list wasn't meant to be exhaustive, like this one isn't.
_dp - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 05:03 PM EST (#76640) #
Hermansen is the type of guy that a good organization can take advantage of. The Reds during the Bowden era were really good at taking still-young former prospects with the "failed" label and giving them some ABs. A team like the Jays is almost better of having a swing position to accomodate/facilitate this type of player breaking out. They're in a really good spot right now- if Johnson fails, Hermanson will be waiting in Syracuse or on the bench, so there'd be no reason to rrush Gross or Rios. It'd be nice to see a shocker 25 homer season from him in a corner OF spot...
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 05:14 PM EST (#76641) #
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I think it's pretty interesting that we have such disparate ideas of what "70's music" means. I either usually think of late 70's British punk (Sex Pistols, Generation X, Stiff Little Fingers, etc.) or 70's arena metal (Queen, Led Zeppelin, KISS, Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, etc.) What does not pop into my mind is Tom Waits and Nick Drake, though those are obviously equally as valid. I guess it's what your tastes are.

At any rate, I thought "Mike M., are you going to occasionally dip into the 70s music pot?" was a really bizarre question on the day I posted a song lyric from 1975! I didn't know if Gitz was mocking me or being serious! :)

Cheers,

Mike
robertdudek - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 05:56 PM EST (#76642) #
Okay guys, here a short excerpt from an absolutely brilliant song which popped into my head because of some of the previous posts.

I smell the pine trees and the peaches in the woods
I see the pinecones that fall by the highway
That's the highway that goes to the building
I pick the building that I want to live in
_Brent - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 06:09 PM EST (#76643) #
Excellent! We'll be having regular BeerClub meetings at the Alibi Roadhouse at 25 Oxford St. West. Too bad we have to wait for the season to start!

Well, if it sweetens the deal I'll be there too. Perhaps we can arrange a "spring training" BeerClub meeting of our own? Games on the 27th (versus the 'Stros) and the 29th (versus the Twinkies) are on RSN. Perhaps one of those days would suffice? Beer, baseball and wings: nothing better.
_EddieZosky - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 06:14 PM EST (#76644) #
I smell the pine trees and the peaches in the woods
I see the pinecones that fall by the highway
That's the highway that goes to the building
I pick the building that I want to live in


My building has every convenience. It's going to make life easy for me.

BEST BAND EVER! Speaking of which, I've heard they have a new boxed set coming out. I'll probably look into it since I think I've completely warn out Sand in the Vaseline.

My favourite one:

There was a factory
Now there are mountains and rivers
you got it, you got it

We caught a rattlesnake
Now we got something for dinner
we got it, we got it

There was a shopping mall
Now it's all covered with flowers
you've got it, you've got it

If this is paradise
I wish I had a lawnmower
you've got it, you've got it
Named For Hank - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 06:31 PM EST (#76645) #
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Eddie Z, that's my fave, too.

I like the part where he would stand beside the highway and dream that he was a billboard.

And I've worn out two tapes of Stop Making Sense, and paid through the nose for the Japanese LaserDisc, back in the good old days.
Mike D - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 07:04 PM EST (#76646) #
Jays and Tigers were called after nine, tied 7-7. Another unpromising outing from Bruce Chen, and poor Bob File got knocked around again on the comeback trail.

Why, oh why, did Buck treat him like a rubber arm?
_EddieZosky - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 07:06 PM EST (#76647) #
Why don't we ditch this blog and start our own Talking Heads blog?
_Mick - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 07:48 PM EST (#76648) #
the 70s music pot
I sort of assumed that any reference to 70s, music and pot had to regard the Doobie Brothers.
_Harry Heatherin - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 09:34 PM EST (#76649) #
Jeez, guys - my musical quote "the passage of my life is measured out in shirts" was Brian Eno - song = "King's Lead Hat", which is an anagram for ....... "Talking Heads". Eno produced Talking Heads '77 AND More Songs About Buildings And Food AND Fear Of Music AND Remain In Light [one of the best albums ever made].

So I call "shenanigans" for starting the Talking Heads blog.

God, I'm pathetic.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:10 PM EST (#76650) #
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I need to buy more Talking Heads albums. I really like Stop Making Sense and adore about half of Naked, and off of Sand In The Vaseline I mostly listen to the second half of the first disc and the first half of the second disc. Tell me what albums to buy.
_Steve Z - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:18 PM EST (#76651) #
Chris Carpenter's comeback started started out successfully today.

Also, here are Fordin's notes.
_Harry Heatherin - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:23 PM EST (#76652) #
Deadly serious - Remain In Light is one of the best ever recorded - it's Talking Heads at their peak. More Songs About Buildings And Food is an incredible document of the band in their early New Wave art school period, the sound is deliberately thin - the drums sound about 2 cm deep - but every time I hear it I go back in time - a friend of mine's basement band used to reproduce their version of "Take Me To The River" where the drummer used a garbage can lid as a crash symbol.

Speaking In Tongues is very well produced, and it has three or four really catchy songs ("Burning Down The House"), but they were veering away from their center -- and the rest of the band was starting to hate David Byrne by then.

I saw them at Kingswood in 1983 - they were on the Stop Making Sense! tour - TomTom Club opened - incredible show. David Byrne is a strange, strange man.
_MatO - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:40 PM EST (#76653) #
The first side of Remain in Light is awesome. Impossible to sit still to.
_Shane - Tuesday, March 09 2004 @ 10:46 PM EST (#76654) #
You're right; I should have mentioned ABBA and the Eagles.

My god, if BattersBox.ca does something I never ever saw Primer have the guts to do, and that's give out props to ABBA, I will be beyond impressed. Big big ABBA fan here. Bravo guys.
_MatO - Wednesday, March 10 2004 @ 08:26 AM EST (#76655) #
Oh yeah. No Talking Heads compilation is complete without Fear of Music.
_alsiem - Wednesday, March 10 2004 @ 08:42 AM EST (#76656) #
The reissue of Stop Making Sense has 8 or so new songs tacked on and it is remastered. It will warm the cockles.
_EddieZosky - Wednesday, March 10 2004 @ 09:05 AM EST (#76657) #
There was an article in December's EYE (or was it scene) magazine about the heads and about the then upcoming box set. I thought it captured their career pretty succinctly.

Harry - I didn't know about the anagram stuff. I call myself a Roxy Music fan too.
_EddieZosky - Wednesday, March 10 2004 @ 09:06 AM EST (#76658) #
There was an article in December's EYE (or was it scene) magazine about the heads and about the then upcoming box set. I thought it captured their career pretty succinctly.

Harry - I didn't know about the anagram stuff. I call myself a Roxy Music fan too.
_R Billie - Wednesday, March 10 2004 @ 12:49 PM EST (#76660) #
Outfield corners with Simon Pond and Frank Catalanatto on turf...not good for Ted Lilly's ERA. That would be some nice offence against righthanded pitching though.
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