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A day after the welcome news that Roy Halladay is taking minor-leaguers under his wing, Spencer Fordin reports from Dunedin that another Blue Jay hurler is sharing his wisdom with his new teammates. Miguel Batista, who calls Curt Schilling "the master of the mind game," is willing to pass on a few things he's learned. This can only be a good thing for Aquilino Lopez, who replaces the questionable influence of Kelvim Escobar with a true mentor.

Batista has earned all his knowledge the old-fashioned way: He asked for it. He's gone out of his way to pick the brains of all-time greats, and not just ex-teammates like Schilling or Randy Johnson. In a brief conversation, Batista mentioned advice he's gleaned from a trio of Hall-of-Famers: Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson and Tom Seaver.

Fordin fans will be pleased to know that Spencer knocks the dirt off his cleats and steps into Da Box for a three-part interview, beginning tomorrow.





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_snellville jone - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 11:03 AM EST (#78036) #
I'm always interested in the outcome of lifelong American/National Leaguers as they start their first season in a new league.

This year, there are many to observe, including Batista: Curt Schilling, Gary Sheffield, Javy Lopez, Vladimir Guerrero, and Kevin Brown were all lifelong National Leaguers while Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens were the only two American League lifers I can think of (David Wells apparently played 11 games with the Reds in 1995 -- who knew?).

With widespread free-agency and, to a lesser-extent, interleague play, maybe the differences aren't all that great anymore, but I still find it to be an interesting sub-plot.
_Tassle - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 11:09 AM EST (#78037) #
Kevin Brown played the first 7 years of his career in Texas and Baltimore, and Schilling spent the first admittedly small part of his career in Baltimore.
_Danny - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 11:27 AM EST (#78038) #
Typo in this article, he didn't sign a 4 year deal, he signed a 3 year one :)

Good article though..

-Danny
_Matthew E - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 11:39 AM EST (#78039) #
Sheffield also started off in the AL with the Brewers.

Batista may be my new favourite player.
_SF - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 12:01 PM EST (#78040) #
A fact error on the first day! Dammit. Looks like I need Spring Training too.
_snellville jone - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 12:06 PM EST (#78041) #
Well, at least I'm not the only one.
Coach - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 02:04 PM EST (#78042) #
Fordin, Jones, drop and give me twenty. Then run outfield laps until I tell you to stop. I don't mind physical errors, they happen. But there's no excuse for a concentration lapse!

(Good to know I'm ready for high school tryouts.)
_Ryan - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 02:59 PM EST (#78043) #
Bob Elliott made a far worse blunder in his piece today:

At his first winter meetings with the Jays in 2001, Ricciardi compared shortstop Felipe Lopez to Oakland's Miguel Batista and a 30-homer season was predicted.

Career batting line for Felipe Lopez: .232/.299/.369 (656 at-bats)
Career batting line for Miguel Batista: .096/.132/.142 (219 at-bats)

I guess technically Lopez still exceeded expectations.

On another silly note, I was looking through the baseball headlines on Yahoo from yesterday and found these two items next to each other:

Boomer vows to take it slow with Padres
Two spots in rotation up for grabs for Arizona


When I first saw those, I initially read them as one headline: "Boomer vows to take two spots in the rotation up"
_Dean - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 09:32 PM EST (#78044) #
Having Hentgen around will hopefully help the young guys as well. By his own admission tonight on The Score he has gone from a two pitch thrower to a four pitch pitcher. I hope Pete Walker makes the team for sentimental reasons. He rode a lot of buses to get here and I hope he can have an effective season.
_Matt - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 04:25 AM EST (#78045) #
I was just examining the futures and I noticed that casinomondo.com has the o's in better standing to win the east than the jays...

the o's are 8-1 while the jays are 13-1 (tb is 80-1)....

That's just unbelievable to me. I cannot understand how one could argue that the o's are the better team on paper this yr. It would take a 2003 red sox like offense where many career yrs would have to be had along with the early emergence of a LOT of young pitchers for that to happen... I have read that Riley and Bautista and eventually Loewen are supposed to be pretty good but I had no idea that ANY bookie could possibly list these birds any higher than our birds...

does anyone have any idea why such an assessment of talent might be given??? This just completely baffles me....
_A - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 07:51 AM EST (#78046) #
Matt, I've asked the same question and the response is overwhelmingly: it isn't based on the actual chance of the team to win but the willingness of gamblers to bet on a particular team. The Blue Jays have less exposure so fewer people are betting on them.
_pete_the_donkey - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 08:36 AM EST (#78047) #
There are a few great quotes in the Sun today from Roy Boy knocking both Joey Hamilton and Cory Lidle.
It's nice to see an athlete speak his mind for once instead of repeating the inane babble the PR departments train them to spew.
Craig B - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 08:37 AM EST (#78048) #
When I first saw those, I initially read them as one headline: "Boomer vows to take two spots in the rotation up"

Two spots in the rotation, and three seats on the bench.
Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 09:30 AM EST (#78049) #
http://economics.about.com
Matt, I've asked the same question and the response is overwhelmingly: it isn't based on the actual chance of the team to win but the willingness of gamblers to bet on a particular team. The Blue Jays have less exposure so fewer people are betting on them.

I don't think that has much, if anything, to do with it. It's not like the Orioles have a ton of exposure either.

The key difference is that the Orioles signed big name free agents and the Jays didn't, and most baseball fans overrate the impact of superstar players.

Cheers,

Mike
_A - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 09:36 AM EST (#78050) #
Mike, the attention the Orioles got for signing the big names is exposure.
_alsiem - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 09:38 AM EST (#78051) #
I heard today(Monday Feb. 23) on Sportsnet that Lilly has arrived with his arm in a brace and that he cannot throw. It seems that he hurt his arm at home but should be ready for the season. Is this one of those Glen Allen Hill spider things?
Pepper Moffatt - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 09:43 AM EST (#78052) #
http://economics.about.com
Mike, the attention the Orioles got for signing the big names is exposure.

In a sense that's true, but it's not the fact that orange keeps showing up on Sportscenter that is causing people to bet on the O's. It's the fact that people believe that the big four the Orioles have signed (Lopez, Tejada, Raffy, and Ponson) and the fact the Jays didn't sign anybody of note (in the eye of the average sportsfan) easily outweighs the 15 game differential in the standings. I think that's highly unlikely to happen, but it's not altogether impossible.

I thought you were discussing what I call the "Cub Effect", that is that large market teams with a ton of fans tend to be overvalued on gambling sites. I don't think that's going on at all with the Orioles.

In general, though, gambling sites tend to be much more accurate predictors of the future than any one columnist or simulation method.

Cheers,

Mike
_Simon - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 12:03 PM EST (#78053) #
"There are a few great quotes in the Sun today from Roy Boy knocking both Joey Hamilton and Cory Lidle."

Any chance you could post them or link them? I'm curious what he said.
_pete_the_donkey - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 01:00 PM EST (#78054) #
Here's the excerpt from the story in the Sun...

Not since Chris Carpenter left in 2002, has Halladay had another pitcher in the Jays clubhouse to sit and talk about how to approach a hitter or the proper pitch sequence.

"Cory Lidle had his own ideas," Halladay said. "Joey Hamilton was only in it for the money. Pat? Pat's here to pitch."
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