I went to the M's game Friday night against the Red Sox, and, right before Ichiro hit a grand slam, I said to Shrike (Sean Whittaker, former BB guy), "This is what he does. He fouls off a bunch of garbage pitches with garbage hacks, then hits the ball 400 feet." Well predicted, JG.

Don't worry, my head won't get too big; it's already deflated from picking Eric Chavez to win the AL MVP and Pat Burrell to win the NL MVP. Hmmmm.

I am confident, however, I could hit Josh Towers.

Meche, as you can see, has a live arm. It seems like Gil has been around forever, but he's only 24.

I maintain Hinske is not right. His bat looks slow to me.

Wells is a bum. Warning-track power? Heck, I've got that.

I'm gonna break the record for comments on my own tonight.

Man, I need a life.

If we wait long enough, maybe Gitz will start arguing with himself...

Craig, I destest this acronym, but ... LOL.

Towers has got it going on: six up, six down, easily I might add. Oh, heck, I WILL add it.

Ted Lilly, meanwhile, does not: he just walked Jason Varitek with the bags juiced. 1-0 Bo Sox, in case anyone cares, and, perhaps, for those who don't.

Six up and six down for Meche, as well. An AL game scoreless after two?

I looked away for four seconds, and the top of the third is over. Wow.

Even more surprising? Erubiel Durazo just hit a home run. 1-1 in the second. And Red Sox fans threw the ball back. Know this: if I ever get a home run in my team's home park, I'm keeping it.

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I am confident, however, I could hit Josh Towers.

The only way I could hit Josh Towers is if we were in a bar fight. And with my strength, I'd only get to do it once.

Completely OT: But you'd be surprised how absolutely terrific even marginal major leaguers are at the sport. When I was in highschool, the then AA London Tigers had this day where kids could spend the day doing baseball type drills with the team and get pointers from players and coaches. It was my turn for BP, so I stepped in there against one of the pitchers for the Tigers (I can't remember which one, but I think he was a starter). Anyhow, after hitting a couple of line drives to short, I asked the pitcher if he could throw a few letter-high pitches. He threw an absolutely perfect 50mph right where I asked. I cranked it down the left-field line and it actually left Labatt Park, but it was a foot foul... I never hit a ball half that hard before or after (I was also using an aluminum bat). He looked at me and yelled, "Oh, he thinks he's a tough guy!" After that he threw me about a dozen 75mph curveballs. I didn't hit a single one of them. Hell, I didn't even foul any off them off.

Mike

Mike, way back in March, in a very minor essay on spring training, I wrote about how good even the worst major leaguers are, and how thin the difference is between, say, Warren Newson and Barry Bonds. Quite simply, they're unbelievably good at what they do.

As a hitter, I devoured fastballs from both sides of the plate. Curve balls gave me some problems as a right-handed hitter, but the break down and in made them nice for me as a left-handed hitter. This, of course, is against high-school and semi-pro pitching. I could hit a 90-MPH fastball if I knew it was coming, but, alas, that's the rub.

I like Orlando Hudson a lot as a fielder. He's got great foot work, tremendously quick hands, a strong arm, and good range.

Why hasn't anyone drilled Boone after he does the bat flip? That double didn't leave the yard, but Bret still flipped his bat. I'll give him a flip ...

Meanwhile, an off-field double by Edgar The Great scores one -- as Boone, not going half-way, cannot score from second.

No worries, as Olerud lines a single to center. Second time through the lineup, and the three-inning mystery that was Josh Towers has been solved.

Big strikeout of Mike Cameron on a nasty breaking ball on a 3-2 count. If Towers gets Winn here with runners on first and third, it'll be a minor victory for Josh.

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As a hitter, I devoured fastballs from both sides of the plate. Curve balls gave me some problems as a right-handed hitter, but the break down and in made them nice for me as a left-handed hitter. This, of course, is against high-school and semi-pro pitching. I could hit a 90-MPH fastball if I knew it was coming, but, alas, that's the rub.

Completely. After I wrote "You'd be surprised" and clicked "Post This Comment" I realized who I was talking to. Whoops. :)

I'm not much of a hitter. I prefer pitching. It's easier.

Good recovery by Towers. 2-0 Seattle, with one run unearned because of a Delgado error.

I'm off to make dinner, no doubt much to the dismay of nearly all three lurkers tonight.

Never fear. I'll be back later.

(A collective "D'oh!" cascades across Canada ...)

Sigh... last night the FAN had an interview with JP after the fourth. Tonight, SportsNet has David Spade whinging away. Ironic, I thought. That plus the whole 'Gil Ga Mesche' line of things... sheesh.

Wow. What a throw by Cash.

Tonight, SportsNet has David Spade whinging away.

I liked this interviewee better three months ago, when it was called "Colin Farrell".

But Spade swore fewer times.

Actually, my reactions were:

1. I'd like to see David Spade doing play-by-play instead of Faulds, and
2. The Gilgamesh thing was the best thing I've ever heard on a Sportsnet broadcast.

Colin Farrell is a tremendous interview on late night talk shows. He can really work off of David Letterman and his interivew on Leno is one of the few times I enjoyed Chinzilla.

And Phone Booth is probabaly my favorite movie in, say, 8 years.

lets not forget charlie's angels 2 ;)

and i didn't think phone booth was that great, was good but not brilliant, actually come to think of it i really didn't like it!

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It's a scientific fact that the greatest movie in the last 8 years (as judged by VORM, or "Value Over Replacement Movie") is Office Space

Mike

In my view it has to be La Haine (parisien film if ppl don't know), but its a stretch at exactly 8 years! 1995

Have to say Colin Farrell does make a convincing character in phone booth though, reminds me so much of this guy i worked with.

Hudson homers, number 7, power orlando power

When considering VORM, can I combine the first half of Office Space with the last half of The Big Lebowski? Is that allowed?

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When considering VORM, can I combine the first half of Office Space with the last half of The Big Lebowski? Is that allowed?

That's like combining Mark McGwire and Albert Pujols. Not sure how that would work.

RE: Phone Booth. To be honest, I've never seen it. I guess I should.

The title reminds me too much of the Whoopie Goldberg movie "The Telephone" which is easily the worst movie I've ever seen. That's saying a lot, since I'm an MST3K fan so I've seen Manos. The movie is just Whoopie talking on the phone for two hours. It's so bad it makes the baby Jesus cry.

Mike

My folks back in Toronto tell me that Ernie Eves has a VORP ("Value Over Replacement Premier") of, at best, -8.2 -- and may drop into the negative double-digits. Kind of like the Jeff Cirillo of premiers.

Hey, how about eight strong from Josh Towers? Talk about your pleasant surprise!

I saw an old friend of mine on the weekend who used to work at Sportsnet, and he said that everyone there knows Faulds is a joke. Their strategy is simply to assign someone already on staff to any property they acquire, rather than try and actually find someone knowledgeable and qualified to broadcast the sport in question.

Their strategy is simply to assign someone already on staff to any property they acquire, rather than try and actually find someone knowledgeable and qualified to broadcast the sport in question.

Due to expense or what was the reason?

That they don't know what the f*** they're doing. My friend, a producer, mentioned that very, very few of the people there are actually knowledgeable about sports. They wouldn't know a good baseball announcer if Vin Scully kissed them on the rear-end.

Look at the crews they've had: Black and Carter, and Faulds and Cerutti. That's an 0 for 4 if I've ever seen one. When you add Ashley Herrod or Hazel Mae making a fool of herself on the "J-Zone" it only becomes clearer that they just don't know anything about baseball, and can't be bothered to improve.

It's a real shame they didn't offer more dough to Dan Shulman when they took over the bulk of the telecasts.

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Kielty is now 5 for 40 for August. He also has 2 walks tonight, giving him 11 for the month. If he gets 2 walks a night, who cares if he hits .100? :)

Mike

Cito Gaston would be mortified, for one...

Does anyone else feel that Greg Myers is a darkhorse candidate for MVP?

Rich:

Is your semen orange?

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Wow.. complete game for Towers. Who saw that coming?!?

I think it would be fun to have a player who hit 150/500/200... I can't imagine anyone getting four balls in a plate appearance too often if he's only hitting .150, tho.

Mike

Dave,

The last I checked it was a purple-pink zig-zag pattern, but I'll have to look again without my scuba mask on. Why do you ask?

Kielty's walks are wasted in the bottom of the order.

Towers looked solid, only 3 Ks though, but no walks. A BABIP of .200 (6 hits allowed tonight on 30 balls in play) is not sustainable, methinks.

Hazel Mae == Hotness. I never watch J-Zone anyway.

I liked "Phone Booth", but it's not in my movie HoF. Favorite of last 8 years? Got to be either "Memento" or "Fight Club". I only just saw "Office Space" (and really liked it). I have to confess, I have way too many similarities to the Michael Bolton character.

My folks back in Toronto tell me that Ernie Eves has a VORP ("Value Over Replacement Premier") of, at best, -8.2 -- and may drop into the negative double-digits. Kind of like the Jeff Cirillo of premiers.

"You'll never work in this town again" has never been so applicable.

I don't like talking about power deregulation, because it's a topic of some sensitivity where I work. But on Thursday, as people started splilling out of the office towers and ten minutes gave way to twenty and people started talking about the power being off in Ottawa and New York and Boston, you could just sense that the last straw had been reached.

Towers looked solid, only 3 Ks though, but no walks. A BABIP of .200 (6 hits allowed tonight on 30 balls in play) is not sustainable, methinks.

No, but he displayed better than 3-strikeout stuff. DIPS-type reasoning isn't reducible to a game-by-game situation for this reason.

I like the pitching line... 9 6 2 1 0 3 is a Game Score of 72. Superb.

Anyone else disappointed that you can find thousands of intelligent people on the internet to talk about baseball, but those same people will then try to convince you that "Phone Booth" is one of the best films of the past 8 years?

The level of discourse just ain't the same.

Folks, go to the Film Festival. Get a Cinematheque membership. Rent something from the "Criterion" section of Bay Street Video.

There's an important difference between a film and a movie and Mr. Donkit did call Phone Booth a movie.

Yeah, I don't really buy that distinction. That's the sort of thinking that causes people to make Ten Best lists where they claim their "favourite" film isn't the same as the "greatest" film. Like the MVP is different from the "best" player.

Jurgen, I'm more disappointed that there are people on the Internet who place their values above others. So "Phone Booth" isn't some arthouse film. Big deal. Neither you or I are qualified to say one film is "better" than another. Sure, we can break down cinematic techniques till Tuesday, and we can spout our opinions until the next Tuesday, but all we can really do is say we like, or prefer, one to another.

So I like James Joyce instead of John Grisham. So I happen to think James Joyce is a superior writer to ... well, anyone. Yippee. No matter what the "truth" is, each genre has its place, and each fan of each genre has their place. We -- and I'm certainly guilty of elitism far more than I care to admit -- would all be better served by shoving that elitism next to other inane prejudices -- that is to say, back to the dungeon where they belong.

Jurgen, that came out bad, and for that I apologize. I was attacking the argument, not the apologist.

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I don't like talking about power deregulation, because it's a topic of some sensitivity where I work. But on Thursday, as people started splilling out of the office towers and ten minutes gave way to twenty and people started talking about the power being off in Ottawa and New York and Boston, you could just sense that the last straw had been reached.

The Eves government over the last few years halved hydro rates. Demand increased to the point where there were shortages. As an economist, I was absolutely shocked that a government set artificially low price could cause shortages. Who knew? :)

Mike

Before the game, Carlos Tosca had a closed-door meeting with his players. Allan Ryan's report in the Star this morning sums it up nicely:

But while the skipper tap-danced around various lines of pre-game questioning as to the nature of his soliloquy, he dropped enough hints to indicate his concerns involved focus, intensity but mostly flat-out defensive fundamentals.

"Physical errors are going to happen, it's the mental errors you're trying to rule out," said Tosca, having spent the last couple of weeks watching too many throws to the wrong base, too many missed double-play opportunities. His message: Keep things simple.

"Catch the ball, throw the ball, see the ball, hit the ball.

"You can use your brain as a weapon to attack the opposition with. Or you can use it and wind up hurting yourself."

The players got the message, it seemed, but they won because Josh Towers was terrific. The fourth inning was the only time the M's hit him hard, and a couple of great plays by Bobby Kielty in right field helped limit the damage to two runs. Early in the game, Towers was getting everyone to hit the ball on the ground, and helped himself with some excellent fielding plays, one a spectacular dive to his left to snare a hard Ben Davis one-hopper. Later on, he was inducing more fly balls, mostly by changing speeds. I have never seen his fastball livelier -- he hit 91 on the gun several times, which makes all his off-speed stuff even more effective -- and he put an exclamation point on the night with the high heat.

Kevin Cash also had a good night. The obvious highlight was his fine throw on a pitchout to nail Ichiro by about ten feet; he also threw a rocket behind Suzuki at first base after one pitch, sending a message to the entire Seattle team that there's a new cop on the block. There's hope for his hitting, too. Cash didn't pull a pitch all night. He hit one to the warning track in the RF corner on a 1-2 count, and singled through the hole on a hit-and-run. Defensively, I can see a little of the Huckaby influence. Kevin's seat is lower than it was last year, which helps steal some strikes below the kneecap. He deserves credit for handling Towers perfectly, and their joyful hug after the last out was a great moment.

My eagerly anticipated sitdown with J.P. was postponed until today, and I'm fighting a few technical fires, so don't expect the interview to be posted before Monday. I could probably transcribe it this weekend, but it's hard to resist going to see the games with the A's, especially with the Molitor bobblehead giveaway on Saturday and an alumni exhibition game following Sunday's contest.

I was going to post last night about the movies I liked; I'm glad I didn't, I don't want to get into an argument. I'll just point out that badminton certainly isn't a better game than baseball just because it's less popular, and leave it at that.

The Eves government over the last few years halved hydro rates. Demand increased to the point where there were shortages. As an economist, I was absolutely shocked that a government set artificially low price could cause shortages. Who knew? :)

To be fair in all this, the high demand for power isn't at all linked to the blackout problems; there was plenty of generating capacity before the blackout (there still is, but it's not in Ontario and the IMO is too #$!@#$^% cheap to buy power at spot market prices from Quebec) -- the problem was entirely related to an ancient and creaky delivery infrastructure which *no* government wanted to spend money to fix. It's not a problem with the government's hand in the marketplace (though that creates other, more insidious problems), it's a problem with the insatiable greed for tax cuts at the expense of essential services and infrastructure.

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To be fair in all this, the high demand for power isn't at all linked to the blackout problems; there was plenty of generating capacity before the blackout (there still is, but it's not in Ontario and the IMO is too #$!@#$^% cheap to buy power at spot market prices from Quebec) -- the problem was entirely related to an ancient and creaky delivery infrastructure which *no* government wanted to spend money to fix. It's not a problem with the government's hand in the marketplace (though that creates other, more insidious problems), it's a problem with the insatiable greed for tax cuts at the expense of essential services and infrastructure.

I think when it comes out in the wash, we'll see that it does have something to do with the province running way to close to capacity. There's still a lot we don't know about it.

I'd like to take the other side. I don't think the problem is tax cuts at all, since the problem with the infrastructure goes back decades (unless you think all those David Peterson and Bob Rae tax cuts are responsible). The problem is that our view of governance since the Grat Depression has changed so much. It used to be that we expected the province to install and maintain a decent infrastucture. Now we expect all sorts of social programs from the province such as health care, education, welfare, etc.

I don't think the blame goes to the politicians at all (or atleast much of it). Pre-blackout, if you asked a 100 people what we should spend more money on: health care or upgrading the infrastructure, I guarantee you atleast 98 of them would have picked health care.

Our values as a society are to blame. We want the government to have a million expensive programs because we feel we're entitled to all sorts of great free stuff. But we don't want to pay for any of it.

Note: I don't support any political party. I don't think it makes much of a difference who is running the province.

Mike

Nice baseball thread here....

No one wants to build nuclear plants anymore.
No-one wants to build coal plants anymore

That leaves hydro and wind.

People don't want wind farms in their neighbourhoods.

Maybe Northern Ontario should look to host some power plants instead of our garbage.

People don't want wind farms in their neighbourhoods.

I know nothing about this topic so am curious, why don't people want wind farms in their neighbourhoods? The height of the towers? Couldn't they be put in fields out in the boonies?

Apologies for the off-baseball talk but this thread is already too far gone to turn back now.

Well I got to the party a little late it seems, so I'm going to weigh-in on everything possible in a short, meaningless, useless, rambling post.

The Blue Jays have been playing bad. They got good pitching and a bit of timely hitting. About time! Hopefully they'll go on a little run at the end of the season and then have all summer to forget how to win again so we can repeat this process for the next 20,562 years.

Josh Towers good, Orlando good, Hinske bad (for now).

Phone Booth - highly overrated. I had problems with Farrel's character...he seems pretty one-dimensional...all of Farrel's characters do pretty much (saw SWAT the other night...mediocre at best). Anyway, the guys a punk, like Russel Crowe. A couple o' punks.

Office Space - hilarious. Maybe the best movie in the last 8 years. Why are we talking about an 8-year period again?

Power outages - Boohoo. My power was out for 18 hours and I missed a day of work. Oh no. My life is over. I bbq'd and drank the beer before it got warm. My house got over 22 degrees. I should sue Cleveland for causing me such hardship.

Wind farms - No, just suck up all of earth's natural resources. Do you think we could somehow make power out of slaughtering the animals and burning tires? Really, we'll all be long gone by the time people have to wear radiation suits out their front doors anyway.

I know nothing about this topic so am curious, why don't people want wind farms in their neighbourhoods?

For one thing, they're huge and ugly as sin. They absolutely ruin the aesthetic value to the usually pastoral settings they're in.

For another, they're about the worst thing man has ever done to the world's bird populations.

And they're not all that reliable, since you're dependent on the weather. Give me nuclear power any day.

The 8 year period came about because, well because it's been about that long since I saw a movie I enjoyed more than Phone Booth. Fight Club and The Matrix are close calls, but I had to go back to Forrest Gump to find one. Maybe I overreacted because Phone Booth was such a pleasant surprise, but nontetheless I liked it a lot. I ordered it at 11:30 am, while home alone, so that goes to show my expectations weren't so high.

Has anybody here ever seen the show Trailer Park Boys on ShowCase? HEard of it even? It's made in Nova Scotia and has become immensely popular here. I've been curious as to how far away from Nova Scotia it has reached.

Yep, we have Trailer Park Boys here in Ottawa and it's fairly popular with some crowds. More of a cult hit than anything else.

Most enjoyed flicks of last 8 years:
LOTR 1 and 2

There's just no comparison...

Peter Jackson is THE MAN

I'm sure even Ingmar Bergman would concur.

Trailer Park Boys is pretty well known out here in Edmonton.

Trailer Park Boys has slowly crawled out of cult hit status in Nova Scotia. In my area, everybody aorund my age (I'm 17) seems to know about it and enjoy it, and it's even more popular on Mainland Nova Scotia. Itis pretty cool that it's well known as far West as Edmonton, at least, consideirng the budget and over the top content. Mike Clattenburg's (the driector) commentaries on the DVD for Seasons 1 and 2 reveal just how low budget it is.

Power outages - Boohoo. My power was out for 18 hours and I missed a day of work. Oh no. My life is over. I bbq'd and drank the beer before it got warm. My house got over 22 degrees. I should sue Cleveland for causing me such hardship.

Don't be an ass. For an elderly person who lives on the 25th floor, for anyone with babies who need bottles (like me - thankfully we were only out for 8 hours), for anyone who was travelling (tourists were sleeping on the New York sidewalks), for anyone whose livelihood generally depends on the movement of electronic data and modern telecommunications (like me again - thankfully I didn't have overly much to do), for anyone who depends on medical equipment to breathe for them, filter their blood, or otherwise keep them alive, and for anyone who was on the road and had to go through an intersection, no power is a greater or lesser hardship.

Not everyone's life is backyards, beer and barbecues.

Trailer Park Boys has slowly crawled out of cult hit status in Nova Scotia. In my area, everybody aorund my age (I'm 17) seems to know about it and enjoy it, and it's even more popular on Mainland Nova Scotia. Itis pretty cool that it's well known as far West as Edmonton, at least, consideirng the budget and over the top content. Mike Clattenburg's (the driector) commentaries on the DVD for Seasons 1 and 2 reveal just how low budget it is.

TPB is what Canadian TV should be all about. Given what's going on with the Simpsons now, it might be my favourite comedy still in production. I grew up in the Nova Scotia boonies just down the road from the nearest trailer park, and the show rings SO true to life I can barely stand it sometimes.

Craig B - Yeah, for people who's lives actually depend immediately on electricity, then yes, it sucks. Most people who are in critical need of power have some sort of backup source, i.e. a generator or emergency battery. These people, as far as my knowledge goes, were able to survive the blackout one way or another. Those people can complain.

That being said, I doubt all the whining I've heard, whether it's on the net or on the news, is coming from people who are in critical need of power. I think there was two attributable deaths in Ontario due to the blackout, and that is really, really tragic.

Heat your bottle up on a Coleman stove/bbq/fireplace. Don't have one? I bet you do now. Here's how:

1) Put a pot of water on the stove to get warm.
2) Place bottle in warm water.
3) Bring to the desired temperature.

I know it's tricky, and I know it's mindblowing to think how people did things before electricity, but it is possible.

Alright I've gotta go. I hope that you'll recognize my smartassedness in the future and not take such offense to my comments which were not made in all seriousness, except to 99% of the population which is not critically dependent on electricity.

Oh, and I realize that not everyone's life is backyards, beer, and BBQs, but perhaps it should be.

Heat your bottle up on a Coleman stove/bbq/fireplace. Don't have one? I bet you do now. Here's how:

1) Put a pot of water on the stove to get warm.
2) Place bottle in warm water.
3) Bring to the desired temperature.

We had to do that. It was a success, but not an unqualified one - one of the baby bottles melted quite a bit. We'll watch it more closely if there's a next time.

Craig B. - Where at in Nova Scotia did you grow up? I live in the Northern-most part of Cape Breton in a small (very small) fishing village - Bay St. Lawrence.

Heat your bottle up on a Coleman stove/bbq/fireplace. Don't have one? I bet you do now. Here's how:

1) Put a pot of water on the stove to get warm.
2) Place bottle in warm water.
3) Bring to the desired temperature.

I know it's tricky, and I know it's mindblowing to think how people did things before electricity, but it is possible.

We just used hot water out of the tap. :)

Seriously, though, where the hell is an apartment-dweller going to get a freaking barbecue?

. I hope that you'll recognize my smartassedness in the future and not take such offense to my comments which were not made in all seriousness, except to 99% of the population which is not critically dependent on electricity.

Don't mistake me... you didn't offend me in the least. I just said you were being an ass.

Boohoo.

Donkit, I grew up a little ways outside of what is now Cole Harbour, in a little tiny community that doesn't even have a name. It's right between Humber Park and Cherry Brook, on the #7 Highway as you head west out of Dartmouth on the way to Preston, Lake Echo and Porters Lake.

The exurban sprawl of Halifax is *just* now reaching that area. There are little strip malls now, and even a big grocery store, no more than a couple of miles from that house. My grandmothr lives there now.

As you head *east*, not west.

Best place names (mostly villages) on the Eastern Shore

Chezzetcook
Lower East Chezzetcook
Head of Chezzetcook
Mushaboom
The Tickle
Ecum Secum
Jeddore Oyster Ponds
East Quoddy
West Quoddy
Lower Three Fathom Harbour
Necum Teuch
Naugle
Moose River Gold Mines
Chedabucto Bay (not a village)
Guysborough Intervals
Roachvale
Dorts Cove
Upper Big Tracadie

In Cape Breton, there's a Ball's Creek and Leach's Creek ... Bras'Dor and Big Bras'Dor (no, not Big Brass Door except, of course, when you're six and easily amused.... The 's' is silent).

I live in a small fishing village with a pop. of about 400. Nearby Meat Cove has 12 houses and a world famous campground.

I haven't been around the Mainland much(except to Halifax and Wolfville) but I recognize Preston and Cole Harbour. Go Kirk Johnson :-) .

Craig B - I dunno where an apartment-dweller would get a bbq. Get a battery powered kettle or something.

Oh, and I am an ass. I won't dispute that.

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Seriously, though, where the hell is an apartment-dweller going to get a freaking barbecue?

Click on my name to see one of the best things I've ever purchased for $50.

That's a nice stove, Spicol. I used to have a Coleman (lent it 2 years ago, haven't got it back yet) but that thing was bulky as hell. I should think about getting one of these to replace it.

I note that the fuel canisters give about 3-6 hours burning time... does that squaer with your experience?

Certainly 5 or more hours sounds right but I haven't kept track very well.

My AL MVP vote has to go to Garret Anderson. Although the Angels are not in the playoff hunt this year. He is hitting .322(second in league) with 29 homers(ninth in the league) 113 RBI's(second in league) and 178 hits(fourth in league).

My AL MVP vote has to go to Garret Anderson. Although the Angels are not in the playoff hunt this year. He is hitting .322(second in league) with 29 homers(ninth in the league) 113 RBI's(second in league) and 178 hits(fourth in league).

My AL MVP vote has to go to Garret Anderson. Although the Angels are not in the playoff hunt this year. He is hitting .322(second in league) with 29 homers(ninth in the league) 113 RBI's(second in league) and 178 hits(fourth in league).

My AL MVP vote has to go to Garret Anderson. Although the Angels are not in the playoff hunt this year. He is hitting .322(second in league) with 29 homers(ninth in the league) 113 RBI's(second in league) and 178 hits(fourth in league).

What I want to know is, who would get Matthew Alden's MVP vote? All together now...