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The true measure of how bad things had gotten in Toronto the last couple of seasons can be found in the startling admission by Vernon Wells that the minor-leaguers riding the Syracuse-Toronto shuttle preferred to stay in Triple-A. "Guys that had been up and down hated it so much in the big-league clubhouse that they would rather go back to Syracuse," he told the Toronto Sun.

Now, I've been to Syracuse, and I certainly don't intend any offence to that upstanding burg, home of the Carrier Dome and, probably, other things. But I can think of about 50 places I'd rather spend a summer, including downtown Saskatoon and many parts of Kitchener/Waterloo. I'm sure it's a marvellous place to pass through and perhaps even to be from, but when you find yourself saying, "Ahh, finally I'm back in Syracuse," something ain't quite right. And that's not even counting the switch from Greyhound/Super Eight to chartered jet/Hilton Hotel.

Wells is equally straightforward about when the atmospheric change took place: "I think it started once Buck [Martinez] got fired," though he takes pains not to blame the manager for creating the problem. I like Buck too, but I think he absolutely ought to shoulder much of the responsibility for the team's comatose state on and off the field. I think it was Dan Szymborski who said, after the firing, that while Buck recognized that the ballclub's conduct and demeanour had to change, it never really seemed to sink in that he was the one in charge of changing them.

Regarding the state of the Jays' clubhouse, of course none of us can speak with authority, since we never stepped foot inside it. But regarding ballplayers' collective morale generally, more can be said. I wrote John Gizzi on this subject a little while back, so he's excused from having to read any further. Clubhouse chemistry, I wrote, is a widely misunderstood term. It's a naughty phrase for many committed sabrmaticians, but I think that's because there's a misconception that "good chemistry" means "everyone likes each other," which it isn't at all (the early '70s A's being the archetypal example).

I think chemistry simply means this particular combination of people performs well together -- and performs better with each other than they would in different combinations or in different contexts. We've all had good and bad workplaces, where the people with whom and for whom we work have either poisoned or redeemed the working conditions. It has to be the same for professional athletes, especially when teams spend only three hours a day between the lines with each other, and 10 to 12 hours together off it.

Anyway, I think what any workplace, including a clubhouse, most needs is a steadying hand, because there's going to be giddy eight-game winning streaks and there's going to be two-week stretches when the pitching just gets hammered, and over a long haul like that, you need an even keel. Tosca seems quite capable of providing that, and Wells (who seems to be shifting rapidly into another hated cliche, the Clubhouse Leader) and other young players sure like his approach. It might not necessarily add more wins to the record, but it's still all to the good.

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Pistol - Thursday, February 27 2003 @ 01:11 PM EST (#95400) #
Apparently you haven't been to the NY State Fair in the summer. Toronto can't compete with that...........
_R Billie - Thursday, February 27 2003 @ 01:14 PM EST (#95401) #
If I see another headline like "All is Wells with the Jays" my head is going to explode. I thought we were rid of that when David Wells was traded.

I think it was clear from the beginning that Buck (and his sidekick Cookie Rojas) while well-liked and passionate about the game had little idea about how to actually manage people, measure their performance, and take steps needed to improve it. He was a former Blue Jay and a recognized name in the community. And that was basically the basis for him getting the job.

Tosca's was his obvious experience and knowledge in leading people, in particular as a veteran minor league manager of a whole lot of years.
_Craig - Thursday, February 27 2003 @ 01:53 PM EST (#95402) #
many parts of Kitchener/Waterloo

Syracuse is a fine town, Jordan. There's no need to gratuitously insult Syracuse.
Gerry - Thursday, February 27 2003 @ 02:59 PM EST (#95403) #
Baseball is best played when you are loose. Being fired up is great for Football, useful in Basketball, but can be death in Baseball.

Clubhouse chemistry, as discussed above, does not mean the players like each other. It means that the players enjoy coming to "work" and play the game loose. Rookies take their clue from the veterans in the clubhouse. Wells talks about it being quiet in the clubhouse. Few rookies are going to talk if the veterans are not talking. The rookies are then nervous about doing or saying the wrong thing. That makes them nervous. From being nervous to playing tight is a short trip.

Left unsaid in all this is the role of Raul Mondesi. I have no inside knowledge but we know Delgado is the non-leader type. Therefore a guy like Mondesi could take a senior statesman role in the clubhouse. He looked to me like an intimidating kind of personality. Can we assume that removing Mondy from the clubhouse helped improve the clubhouse atmosphere, and then the Jays play on the field? Was Tosca that different from Buck Martinez, or did he benefit from Mondesi being traded? Did Tosca's benching of Mondesi send a signal that there was a new top-dog in town?

Very interesting.....
_Ahem - Friday, February 28 2003 @ 09:01 AM EST (#95404) #
I have no inside knowledge but we know Delgado is the non-leader type.

If you have no inside knowledge, then how can you make that sort of claim about Delgado?
Coach - Friday, February 28 2003 @ 10:11 AM EST (#95405) #
how can you make that sort of claim about Delgado?

It's easy. You watch him grinning after a baserunning gaffe; you conclude he's not a leader.

There's "evidence" in various media, from other players and Carlos himself, suggesting he's not a rah-rah guy, and as for leadership by example, he's sporadic at best.

What is rumour and innuendo, and I'll qualify with the "I have no inside knowledge" disclaimer, is that Delgado absolutely loathed Mondesi. I believe it, but can't prove it. So he'll be a happier camper, and perhaps step up his inspirational efforts, but this team belongs to Wells and Hinske. Frank Catalanotto is said to be a great talker and a great guy; he'll also do positive things for the clubhouse chemistry. Carlos just has to hit, like Doc just has to pitch.
Gerry - Friday, February 28 2003 @ 11:26 AM EST (#95406) #
Fregosi and Buck tried to make Delgado the "captain" of the Jays. He declined and said he is not that kind of guy. He said he leads by example, not by words.
Craig B - Friday, February 28 2003 @ 11:45 AM EST (#95407) #
He said he leads by example, not by words.

Heck, in my opinion that's the only kind of leadership that's any damn good, in any field.

Ballplayers don't get better listening to speeches. Ballplayers get better, like we all do, by being taught well and by emulating good examples.
_Ian Gray - Friday, February 28 2003 @ 12:56 PM EST (#95408) #
He said he leads by example, not by words.

Heck, in my opinion that's the only kind of leadership that's any damn good, in any field.


Absolutely. In fact, my experience is that rah-rah leadership is almost always counter-productive. Everyone on the team knows what has to be done. Some idiot talking about how 'we just have to execute' just irritates people.
_Spicol - Friday, February 28 2003 @ 01:42 PM EST (#95409) #
Heck, in my opinion that's the only kind of leadership that's any damn good, in any field.

Ballplayers don't get better listening to speeches. Ballplayers get better, like we all do, by being taught well and by emulating good examples.


John Olerud, in the opinion of many, is a damn fine ballplayer and seems to be one of the best examples for a young player of what a player should be. That said, does that alone make him a good leader? No knock to John, but can anyone imagine a team of 25 different personalities being motivated to peak performance simply by quiet, laid back John doing his thing? I certainly don't think so. Sometimes it takes much more than showing people how to do things right, expecting them to catch on.

I see your point that ballplayers don't get better listening to speeches, well, not by that alone anyway. But I'm supremely confident that, not just ballplayers but all people, can improve and perform by being led overtly and by example. Someone who just talks can't expect to be respected but someone who talks and backs it up with performance is a great leader. Dave Winfield, anyone?
_Ian Gray - Friday, February 28 2003 @ 05:42 PM EST (#95410) #
Spicol,

I'll agree that there's some place for respected veterans making the occasional speech and pulling guys out of line to set them straight if there's something seriously wrong. Most of the time though, the inspirational leader stuff is nonsense. In my mostly undistiguished athletic career, most of the 'team leaders' I've played with have been annoying blowhards. The few exceptions have been guys who derived their authority from the way they performed on the field. It's not necessarily a question of success-what I find is that what's required is intelligent, hard work. Dave Winfield, to take your example, couldn't have garnered the respect he did if he'd played like Raul Mondesi, the archetypal 'annoying blowhard' would-be leader. Authority flows from respect, and that can only be gained by showing your teammates that you know what you're talking about.
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