The Last Home Stand / Bringing Up Babies pt. 2

Sunday, September 20 2020 @ 09:00 PM EDT

Contributed by: Magpie

The Jays finished off the "road" portion of their 2020 schedule by breaking off their six-game losing streak. In fact, the whole season has been made of road games, but they went 15-19 when playing  in some other team's home field. They will finish the regular season playing four with the Yankees and three with the Orioles in their temporary pandemic home south of the border.

Back in mid-summer 2010, when we were all fretting endlessly about young Travis Snider's development, I thought it might be useful to compare young Snider's path to the big leagues with that of some other young Jays hitters of note. Being an extremely simple fellow, I used an extremely simple method. Snider happened to be 22 years and 7 months old at the time - I compared his career numbers to those of ten other Jays hitting prospects when they were the exact same age. I discussed each player's particular development path, at what, remarkably, was not -  not - excessive length, and I speculated further on what young Snider needed to do going forward. With what passes for wit around my house, I called the ensuing piece Bringing Up Babies, which is where you'll find the actual discussion of how these youngsters became major leaguers.

Years have passed since I wrote my note, and there were some good times along the way. Those good times, however, came courtesy of a few veteran sluggers, arriving from other organizations and turning into world-beating monsters in Toronto blue. The only interesting young hitter to emerge from the system in those years was Brett Lawrie, and that was a tale that did not end well.

Today's Blue Jays, however, generally have not one, not two, but five young hitters in their lineup most days. Sometimes more. It's true that none of Biggio, Gurriel, or Tellez had appeared in the major leagues at the age in question, but the other two - Bichette and Guerrero - are so young  that technically they're still  too young to even qualify for the Bringing Up Babies table. Which is pretty cool if you ask me. Granted, young Bo Bichette is so close to the age marker that he might as well be there already (he's only going to play another 7 games before he's there) and for that reason I think we can safely pretend he belongs already..

But Vlad Guerrero is a different case entirely. Young Vlad won't have reached the same age as the rest of this group of young Jays until next season is over. We're looking at how they Jays bring up babies. Vlad isn't even one of the babies yet. He's... an infant?

And so... here are your Blue Jay Babies, listed in order of Major League Plate Appearances at the age of 22 years, 7 months. I've added a few guys I skipped first time around: Willie Upshaw, Kelly Gruber, and Shannon Stewart. They had all had a chance to play by this age. Truthfully though, Upshaw and Gruber were both Rule 5 picks who really shouldn't have been in the majors at all. And while Shannon Stewart really was ready, in my opinion, to take a regular job in the outfield at age 22 his kindly GM had gone out and signed Otis Nixon as a free agent and sent Stewart to the minors for two more years instead.

The date in parentheses is simply the date when each player reached this rather randomly chosen Magic Month:



Bringing Up Babies, Part 2

Player                        G   PA    AB   R   H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB  CS  BB   SO  BAVG   OBP   SLG   OPS
Lloyd Moseby (May 1982)     358  1407 1284  126 296  64  7  28  142  27  26  84  280  .231  .279  .357  .636
Vlad Guerrero (Oct 2021) 175   725  654   79 172  36  3  22   94   1   1  65  127  .263  .332  .428  .761
Brett Lawrie (Jul 2012)     139   584  533   85 153  27  7  18   63  20   9  38   91  .287  .343  .465  .808
Travis Snider (Aug 2010)    153   556  496   66 124  33  1  19   63   4   3  52  152  .250  .323  .435  .759
Alex Gonzalez (Nov 1995)    126   484  420   58  97  22  5  10   43   7   4  48  131  .231  .310  .379  .689

John Olerud  (Feb 1991)     117   429  366   45  98  15  1  14   48   0   2  57   76  .268  .364  .429  .793
Bo Bichette (Oct 2020)       68   308  289   44  89  18  0  16   38   8   4  17   68  .308  .347  .557  .904
Tony Fernandez (Feb 1985)   103   292  267   34  72   6  4   3   21   5   8  19   17  .270  .318  .356  .674
Willie Upshaw (Oct 1979) 95 250 224 26 53 8 2 1 17 4 6 21 35 .237 .298 .304 .602
Jesse Barfield (May 1982)    68   236  215   26  54   8  4   5   28   5   5  17   46  .251  .312  .395  .707

George Bell  (May 1982)      60   168  163   19  38   2  1   5   12   3   2   5   27  .233  .256  .350  .606
Carlos Delgado  (Feb 1995)   45   161  131   17  28   2  0   9   24   1   1  26   46  .214  .354  .435  .789
Shawn Green  (May 1995)      44   127  120   16  26   5  0   5   15   1   2   5   25  .217  .260  .383  .643
Vernon Wells  (Jun 2001)     35   125  120   14  31   6  0   2   10   3   1   5   24  .258  .288  .358  .646

Shannon Stewart (Sep 1996)   19    62   55    4  11   1  0   0    3   3   0   6    9  .200  .290  .218  .509
Kelly Gruber (Sep 1984) 15 16 161 1 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 5 .063 .063 .250 .313
Fred McGriff (May 1986)       3     5    5    1   1   0  0   0    0   0   0   0    2  .200  .200  .200  .400


Where, you might wonder, are Alex Rios? Derek Bell? Aaron Hill? Glenallen Hill? Kevin Pillar? Adam Lind?

They're nowhere. None of them had played in the major leagues at this age. Josh Phelps had exactly one major league plate appearance (he struck out.)

And once more, I'd like to mention that young Guerrero is still more than a year away from truly belonging to this group of Babies. I strongly, strongly suggest that you remember that little factoid before you draw any conclusions about him. How's he doing compared to... well, Fred McGriff had a pretty nice career. Came this close to belting 500 HRs, was a better player than lots of guys enshrined at Cooperstown. How's Vlad doing compared with him, or with Carlos or Vernon?

Patience, Grasshopper. Patience.

Moving on. The Jays are going to have to deal one more time with that Yankees outfit that did such a nasty job on them last week.  Definitely harshed somebody's mellow. The Yankees, as ever,  remain the focus of evil in the modern world. It's just who they are.

We have some tentative matchups:

Mon 6:30 - TBD vs Roark (2-2, 6.41)
Tue 6:30 - Cole (6-3, 3.00) vs Anderson (0-2, 7.45)
Wed 6:30 - Tanaka (3-2, 3.27) vs Ray (1-1, 5.94)
Thu 6:30 - Happ (2-2, 3.25) vs Ryu (4-2, 3.00)

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