Edwin now in Cleveland
Thursday, December 22 2016 @ 11:57 PM EST
Contributed by: John Northey
Yup, he's gone. 3 years $55 mil with a $25 mil option ($5 mil buyout). If year 4 isn't taken then he gets a total of $60 mil. If all 4 years happen he makes $80 mil just like the Jays offered.
So here is a brief history of Encarnacion....
- June 5, 2000: Drafted by the Texas Rangers in the 9th round of the 2000 amateur draft. Player signed June 12, 2000.
- June 15, 2001: Traded by the Texas Rangers with Ruben Mateo to the Cincinnati Reds for Rob Bell.
- July 31, 2009: Traded by the Cincinnati Reds with Josh Roenicke and Zach Stewart to the Toronto Blue Jays for Scott Rolen.
- November 12, 2010: Selected off waivers by the Oakland Athletics from the Toronto Blue Jays.
- December 16, 2010: Signed as a Free Agent with the Toronto Blue Jays. (14 days after becoming a free agent when Oakland decided not to offer him a contract)
- December 23, 2016: Signed as a Free Agent with Cleveland
We can see the Batters Box view on these easily enough...
- Edwin comes here... comments
- I will be disappointed if the return is Encarnacion.
- If there's a baseball god it's Alonso coming back. If there isn't it's Encarnacion, which would be a massive mistake. I'd rather watch Bautista play 3B.
- i too would rather have bautista than encarnacion...
- EE is not useless, but he's not as good as rolen at anything
- My guess would be that you have Bautista/EE share 3B for the rest of the year and pray that Ahrens turns it around.
- RhyZa: I must be the only one who likes this trade. 2 B- prospects, and Encarnacion is a good haul to me.
- Thomas: I'd rather just have received the two arms than Encarnacion, as well.
- Cincinnati's mlb.com beat writer Mark Sheldon writes: "Encarnacion was pretty upset when he was told."
- I see nothing to like about EE
- Encarnacion is terrible...I'm not sure why the Jays would want him. (another thread)
- Sadly I didn't say anything in that thread (wonder if I wasn't on the box at that point)
- Everyone pretty much was hoping Yonder Alonso was in the deal and were disappointed he wasn't. He has 5.9 lifetime WAR, never reaching 2 in any season
- Encarnacion claimed off waivers
- Sigh - I think EE could turn out to be our biggest source of regret, maybe not at the Pittsburgh level, but near enough.
- I think Encarnacion had a reasonable shot at 30 HR's if he had stayed with Toronto next year.
- EE could hit 30 homeruns in the Polo Grounds
- Updating my earlier comment, EE made $4.75m in 2010 and was looking at making $6-$7m in 2011 through arbitration. At that salary he is definitely not a bargain.
- At a soon to be 28, Encarnacion is what he is. That is a poor fielding, home run dependent hitter than no longer shows the ability to consistently get on base with any regularity.
- I am not saying that is what they should do (sign Beltre), but just feel that when all is said and done, Encarnacion is not a part of the future of this club is ultimately one thing to the Jays - replaceable.
- Edwin back
- My POV at the time - I see it as much like the signing of Bautista a few times over the past years - basically you sign a guy with tons of potential that hasn't been reached, who can play 3B in a pinch but is better suited to 1B/LF/RF/DH (I suspect EE could handle LF/RF if given a shot). He is cheap, and can be released without fear if something better comes along mid-season.
FYI: Edwin's lifetime earnings: $51,790,000 - roughly $4 mil from Cincinnati the rest here. 24.4 bWAR here, 3.2 in Cincinnati. Last year was his 4th best at 3.7 (edit - earlier I had his 2015 figure there 4.7). fWAR is at 27.6 lifetime total identical to BR. Value of $166.3 million to the Jays over his time here. Yeah, I'd say he worked out a LOT better than anyone thought or expected. Hope he enjoys his retirement funds from Cleveland.
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