Hall Watch 2006 Update- The Second Basemen
Monday, November 06 2006 @ 07:26 AM EST
Contributed by: Mike Green
Two years ago, I looked at Jeff Kent, Roberto Alomar and Craig Biggio in two pieces- Part 1 and Part 2.
Since then, Alomar has retired while Kent and Biggio have wrestled Old
Man Time to a draw. Let's see whether I said anything really
dumb, and where they stand now.
Jeff Kent
Two years ago, I said of Kent:
"Overall, I would rate Kent as a B+ defensive second baseman. Alomar
would be a C+ defensive second baseman, and Biggio a C defensive second
baseman.
So, should Jeff Kent be in Hall of Fame? Will he? His
performance has been quite comparable with Doyle and Grich to date, and
he may have 2 or 3 seasons left. That means, for me, he should clearly
be in now, even if his career ended tomorrow. As for his chances, that
is more difficult. It is likely that Roberto Alomar will be seen as the
greatest second baseman of the 90s thanks to his Gold Gloves, and the
3000 hits he’s likely to have when he finishes. If the past is an
indicator, that means Alomar gets the baseball writer’s vote, and
Kent’s election will depend on the Veterans’ Committee. I’d guess that
Biggio will get more support from the BBWAA than Kent, and later the
Veterans’ Committee, and that Kent will be out. Now, if he were to find
his way onto a champion, and contribute mightily over the next couple
of years, the calculus might be different."
Kent had great age
37 and age 38 seasons in 2005-06, essentially hitting at his superb
career norms, while playing 271 games. He is still an adequate second
baseman, and has now played 1785 games at the position. He now has hit
345 homers. There has never been a second baseman with anything like
this total. The most comparable hitters to him, according to
BBRef.com, are (drum roll please for last week's contestants):
Player |
AB |
HR |
W |
K |
SB |
CS |
BA |
OBP |
SLUG |
OPS+ |
Kent |
7564 |
345 |
719 |
1409 |
93 |
56 |
.289 |
.356 |
.504 |
126 |
Burks |
7199 |
351 |
790 |
1332 |
179 |
84 |
.292 |
.364 |
.511 |
126 |
Parker |
8246 |
307 |
609 |
1337 |
147 |
103 |
.293 |
.343 |
.479 |
124 |
Berra |
7546 |
348 |
704 |
411 |
30 |
26 |
.285 |
.348 |
.483 |
125 |
Congratulations, Sheldon, on naming Berra as a comparable to Kent. Berra is a pretty comparable hitter,
bearing in mind the differences between the American League of the 50s,
and the current National League. Berra also played a key
defensive position well, and in fact had more defensive value than
Kent.
At this point, Kent has had as good a career as
Bobby Grich with the bat, and is modestly behind him with the
glove. I now think that his chances are a little above 50% (it
obviously would have helped if he had led the Dodgers to the World
Series this year). With Grich, there was no one number that might
persuade the voters that he was qualified. With Kent, the homer
total as a second baseman might be the ticket.
Roberto Alomar
Two years ago, I made the obvious prediction that Roberto Alomar
would end up with 3,000 hits and Craig Biggio would end up with
2,700-2,800. Wrong-o. I said:
"Should Roberto be in the Hall of Fame? Will he? In my view, though he
has not been as good offensively or defensively as Kent, Alomar should
be a Hall of Famer, due to the quality and length of his offensive
prime. He has been one of the top 20 second baseman of the 20th
century, and that should be good enough. I figure that two second
baseman per decade is a reasonable average. Alomar will definitely go
to the Hall- his hit total, his Gold Gloves and his playoff performance
in my view, pretty much guarantee that; I just cannot see a second
baseman who has won 11 Gold Gloves and has 3,000 hits not being there."
I still think that Alomar should be inducted, and that he will,
notwithstanding his failure to reach the 3,000 hit plateau. He
was a great hitter for a second baseman, with a great defensive
reputation. I don't think that he was better than Lou Whitaker,
but that is a very high standard.
Craig Biggio
In 2004, Biggio was an outfielder for the Astros, while Jeff Kent played second base. I said at the time:
"Should Craig Biggio be in the Hall of Fame? Will he? Biggio has played
longer than Lou Whitaker with about the same level of offensive
performance, and as long as Frankie Frisch with better performance. He
was for several years the best leadoff hitter in the game and a fine
second baseman. Overall, though, his defence was not up to their level,
in my view, and I make him a marginal Hall of Famer.. On the other
hand, I expect that he will eventually make it. He should finish up
with 2700-2800 hits, four Gold Gloves, and a name (as one of the Killer
Bs)."
Kent left Houston after 2004, and Biggio returned to second base.
He gave them a very good year in 2005, and a below par one in 2006 at
age 40. His six most comparable players
according to BBRef are now in order: Joe Morgan, Paul Molitor, Cal
Ripken, Brooks Robinson, George Brett and Rickey Henderson. It is
hard to imagine a single player having such a disparate group of
comparables, with the only real common element being longevity. I am
pretty sure that he will make it, and I am now convinced that he
deserves it handily.
Maybe, all will end up right with the world in a decade or three.
Morgan, Carew, Grich, Sandberg, Whitaker, Kent, Alomar and Biggio
will all be in the Hall of Fame as the second basemen of the period
1965-2005. Eight second basemen for four decades is exactly right, and
those should be the men.
Next up: Miguel Tejada and an update on the shortstops I looked at in 2004 . If you can name one of Julio Franco's
two most comparable hitters according to BBRef.com, without peeking,
you will receive something much more enduring than a convocation of
cuttlefish- your name in bold on the world wide web.
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