We're Better Off Without Him

Monday, December 20 2004 @ 05:44 AM EST

Contributed by: Dave Till

As you may have read, the Jays were in the hunt for pitcher Matt Clement until the last minute. (Or maybe the fourth-last minute. Or maybe 11:07 or something.) The question: how much would Clement have helped the team had he been signed?

My claim is that signing Clement, or any middle-rank starting pitcher, is a bad idea for the Jays. Why? Because almost all established pitchers acquired by the Jays get worse in a Toronto uniform. And this has nothing to do with J.P. Ricciardi, Rogers Communications, the current Jays coaching staff, or anything like that, as this has been happening for a generation now.

The following table lists all the significant pitchers acquired by the Blue Jays since 1983. “ERA-B” (B is for “before”, natch) is the pitcher's ERA the year before the Jays got him; if he was acquired in mid-season, it's the pitcher's ERA at the time of the trade. “ERA-A” (A is for... you guessed it) is the pitcher's ERA when the Jays acquired him.


PlayerERA-BERA-ADiffNotes
Terry Adams2.653.98+1.332.65 was likely a fluke
Doyle Alexander6.353.93-2.42grudge against George
Miguel Batista3.544.80+1.26Note: the plate is that-a-way
John Candelaria3.395.48+2.09
Tom Candiotti2.242.98+0.748.22 ERA in postseason
Bill Caudill2.712.99+0.28lost fastball due to illness
Roger Clemens3.632.05-1.58grudge against Bosox
David Cone2.882.55-0.33K/W ratio significantly worse
Ken Dayley3.566.23+2.67vertigo
Mike Flanagan4.942.37-2.57
Joey Hamilton4.276.52+2.25no GM job for Stew, thanks to Joey
Dennis Lamp3.714.55+0.84bounced back the next year
Gary Lavelle2.763.10+0.34walked more in Tor; runners likely stranded by Henke
Kerry Ligtenberg3.346.38+3.04seeing this raises blood pressure; everybody calm down
Ted Lilly4.344.06-0.28yay, Ted!
Randy Moffitt3.023.77+0.75crashed in second half
Jack Morris3.434.04+0.61144 pitches on opening day
Randy Myers1.514.46+2.95ick
Robert Person4.525.61+1.09
Paul Quantrill4.675.43+0.76got better when moved to bullpen
Justin Speier4.053.91-0.14coming from Colorado; hurt first half in Tor
Dave Stewart3.664.44+0.78K/IP off
Tanyon Sturtze5.185.94+0.76mega-ick
Jeff Tam5.135.64+0.51super-mega-ick


As you can see, most of the pitchers got worse when they came to Toronto (though some eventually bounced back). The exceptions are: the one-time Cy Young winners (Clemens, Cone, Flanagan); a couple of useful J.P. acquisitions (Lilly, Speier); and Doyle Alexander, who never fits easily into any classification whatsoever, since he was apparently an ornery cuss.

So what can we conclude from this? Choose any or all of the following:

- The sample sizes may be small.
- I may have conveniently forgotten some pitchers who improved in a Jays uniform.
- Some of these guys were coming off fluke years.
- Some pitchers just get old or worse regardless of whether they change uniforms.

But you can also conclude that arriving in Toronto is, and always has been, a somewhat discombobulating experience for an established pitcher. The turf is bouncy, the ball flies out of the park more easily in springtime, the currency is a funny colour, and everything is just a little bit disconcerting. This is why I think that the Jays have to grow their own pitching: for the kids coming up from the farm, Toronto is the normal major league experience. Think of all the homegrown pitchers, or pitchers acquired as minor leaguers, who have flourished here: Stieb, Key, Clancy, Ward, Henke, Halladay, Guzman, Timlin, Hentgen. The list of imported talent isn't nearly as impressive as this list.

So what would Matt Clement have achieved in a Jays uniform? Well, he had ERA's of 4.11 and 3.68 in a Cubs uniform, so he would have probably compiled an ERA of 4.75 or so in a Jays uniform. Is this worth $9 million a year? Naah. The Jays are better off without him.


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